Board 8 > Most Evil Fictional Character: Calvin Candie vs. Yami Marik

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RySenkari
09/24/23 7:35:52 AM
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Welcome to the 2023 edition of Most Evil Fictional Character, a single-elimination tournament to determine the most evil fictional character of all time!

Here's the bracket:

https://www.bracketmaker.com/tmenu.cfm?tid=477621&tclass=

And here's the discussion topic:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/80568652

And here are the rules:

-First and foremost, YOU MUST BOLD YOUR VOTE FOR IT TO COUNT. The reason for this is that these topics encourage a lot of discussion and debate, and it helps me to distinguish a vote from simple discussion if all votes are bolded. So, I state again, ALL VOTES MUST BE BOLDED FOR THEM TO COUNT. I reserve the right to be lenient in early topics if people just aren't getting it, but for the most part, IF YOUR VOTE ISN'T BOLDED, IT WON'T COUNT.

-You must vote for which of the two characters you honestly believe to be the more evil of the two. You can determine this via any method you like, use your own morals and judgement, read all the arguments made to determine your choice, or however you choose to make your pick, but you must only vote for the one you truly believe is the most evil. This isn't a death battle, or a popularity contest. You're voting ONLY for the most evil character out of the two choices presented.

-While on that subject, remember that because this isn't a death battle or a fighting tournament, do your absolute best to consider the two characters as if their power levels were equal (either the weaker character brought up to the level of the strongest, or vice versa, or both if you want to consider both possibilities). Therefore, just because, for example, one of the characters blew up a planet and the other one merely kicked a puppy, doesn't necessarily mean the planet killer is more evil than the puppy kicker. Consider the characters as if they have the exact same capabilities and what they might do in that scenario.

-You can make any arguments, debates, etc. you want in this topic. Discussion is STRONGLY encouraged, a fun debate about which of the two characters is most evil is exactly what these topics are for. Just don't make it personal, no insults or flaming, keep things civil even if you disagree. Also, no vote rallying, if you want to encourage people to vote for your character you need to at least make some semblance of an argument as to why, even if it's just "Character X did (really dastardly thing), I can't believe no one's voting for them!"

-Voting will continue for exactly 24 hours after the post is made. If there's a tie, there will be a new 24 hour topic. This will continue indefinitely until a winner is determined.

-YOU MUST BOLD YOUR VOTE FOR IT TO COUNT.

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The following write-ups will contain untagged SPOILERS for Django Unchained and Yu-Gi-Oh.

CALVIN CANDIE

Calvin Candie is the primary antagonist of Django Unchained.

Calvin Candie is a Mississippi slave owner who owns a large plantation known as Candieland. Candie is a detestable individual who views his slaves harshly as his property and participates in blood sports, forcing male slaves to fight to the death for money. His female slaves are often forced into prostitution. He sees people of color as beneath him and little more than property. The depths of his depravity are seen when he gives Django and Dr. Schultz a lecture on his belief that people of color are biologically inferior using pseudoscience, using a deceased slave's skull as evidence. After King Schultz and Django attempted to trick him into selling Broomhilda (using the prospect of purchasing a more expensive slave along with her to win an audience with him), Candie returned to the dining room and gradually reveals Schultz's and Django's deception to them, subsequently losing his calm demeanor and eventually snaps, revealing his sick and devious nature by threatening to beat Broomhilda to death with a hammer if Dr. Schultz does not pay $12,000 for her. After signing Broomhilda over, Candie then tries to convince Schultz to shake his hand to seal their transaction, otherwise he will have Broomhilda shot on sight. Calvin is also extremely cold-hearted; sadistic, and cruel, taking incredible delight in watching two black men viciously fight right in front of him, and cheering when one gouges out the other's eyes, before first ordering and then demanding the victorious slave to finish off the defeated challenger with a hammer. He also casually orders one of his slaves to be devoured alive by dogs, all while looking Django in the eye, with a look of uncaring contempt.

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YAMI MARIK

Yami Marik is a major antagonist in the anime and manga Yu-Gi-Oh!

Yami Marik is Marik Ishtar's second personality created by his own inner hatred and pain. Yami Marik is a person of pure cruelty, wickedness, and insanity who cares for no one but himself, as he was born of hate, anger, and envy. Yami Marik ruthlessly murdered his father, and was constantly trying to kill Odion for being a hindrance to his existence in the outside, and threatened Ishizu with death for hiding their brother. Yami Marik didn't seem to have any goal except for spreading pain and suffering in the world, and also having his own life in the real world, because he has no desire to be sealed away and he considers himself the "true" Marik. In the dub however, he shares Marik's goal of taking the Pharaoh's power and world domination in addition to his sadistic desire to spread pain. Before his death, he tried to reason with Marik saying that they could rule the world together; however, given his personality, he was merely trying to convince Marik to free him from his predicament. Yami Marik lacks empathy and is highly sadistic; building his Deck around torture-themed cards, and using his shadow powers to manifest them into reality, painfully hurting his opponents for his own pleasures. After winning against Mai in the quarterfinals, Yami Marik trapped Mai's soul, where she is slowly buried in sand in an hourglass inside her mind. This left Mai with little more than a day to live before the torture killed her. Yami Marik transformed his Duel with Joey into a Shadow Game, connecting the Duelists to their monsters so that they'd feel the pain their monsters did. Joey attempted to attack Marik directly but collapsed from the Shadow Game and was unable to continue to claim victory. During his last Duel, he even stated that he got the most twisted pleasure from torturing Yami Yugi.

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Great_Paul
09/24/23 9:05:21 AM
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Yami Marik

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v_charon
09/24/23 12:32:35 PM
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Calvin Candie

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Dancedreamer
09/24/23 12:42:43 PM
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I'll wait for arguments on this one.

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Jesse_Custer
09/24/23 12:46:29 PM
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Calvin Candie
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Snake5555555555
09/24/23 12:47:35 PM
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Calvin Candie

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Johnbobb
09/24/23 12:52:26 PM
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I think this one is mostly a question of what is more evil, targeting your cruelty and sadism toward a specific group of people, or targeting it toward all of mankind?

I think in Candie's position Marik would've done the same acts, but probably to everyone around him, not just the slaves?

I think I lean Yami Marik and I think the dividing point is that Calvin often likes to make people inflict violence on each other, whereas Marik typically likes to be the one doing it himself and wouldn't get satisfaction without being directly involved. And when he can't be involved, he'd just take over the mind of the person doing it.

At the very least Calvin has some people he cares for, but Marik just hates everyone, including his base self.

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PrinceKaro
09/24/23 1:24:54 PM
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Calvin Candie

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skulltrumpets
09/24/23 1:30:03 PM
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holy shit this one is hard to think on.

Dancedreamer posted...
I'll wait for arguments on this one.

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trdl23
09/24/23 1:45:55 PM
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Calvin Candie

Marik's definitely no slouch though

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Pirateking2000
09/24/23 3:43:43 PM
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Going to wait for more arguments but Yami Marik is base Marik's evilness, hate, and envy personified. His entire deck is quite literally built for the singular purpose of torture...which kinda has drawbacks for him as without shadow games and Ra hax his deck kinda sucks because of it lol. He can be kind of "stupid evil" in a sense so not sure whether anyone would count that as a boon or not for him on the Evilometer here. He purposely destroyed the computer that was the only way of stopping the missile heading their way that one time, only really caring about the damage it'd cause...regardless of the fact he'd be in said explosion.

Not familiar with the other guy but apparently he seems to genuinely care about some people. Yami Marik kind of doesn't have that unless you count Odion acting as a sort of living "limiter" to his existence and him showing relative restraint with Ishizu as he only threatened to murder her for hiding real Marik

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GavsEvans123
09/24/23 4:57:10 PM
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Yami Marik
Calvin Candie loves his BEAUTIFUL SISTER!!! Yami Marik threatens or attempts to kill his siblings on several occasions. That's the tie breaker for me, as they both enjoy inflicting suffering and torture upon others, and if they switched places, both of them would do similar things as their opponent.

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trdl23
09/24/23 5:00:20 PM
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Johnbobb posted...
Calvin often likes to make people inflict violence on each other
I find this even more evil than doing it yourself!

It's a matter of corruption vs. destruction in terms of what's the worst evil. To me, the "love" he has for some people only magnify his horrid impulses and philosophy.

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Pirateking2000
09/24/23 9:25:12 PM
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Going to throw a vote for Yami Marik for now. Can delete for change if there are more arguments

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skulltrumpets
09/24/23 10:23:26 PM
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okay, yeah, yami marik it is. but damn y'all picked some great villains for this bracket.
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illuminatusbubu
09/25/23 12:47:30 AM
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Calvin Candie
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Grimmer
09/25/23 12:52:30 AM
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yami marik

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RySenkari
09/25/23 6:57:09 AM
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40 minutes left, this one's currently tied so a single vote could decide it before a mandatory tiebreaker.

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SirChris
09/25/23 7:01:00 AM
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Yami marik

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LightningStrikes
09/25/23 7:18:25 AM
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A tough one but leaning towards Calvin Candie.

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