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bfslick50 09/24/23 2:30:11 PM #101:	Toonstrack posted... Lmfao yall dont want anything new and you gd know it. Last week you were begging Disney to literally remake the clone wars but in live action You want the same s* they've been feeding you for 3 decades Weird deflection. Never seen clones wars or rebels, dont see a need for a live action remake either. --- "Something's wrong! Murder isn't working and that's all we're good at." ~Futurama <cite>bfslick50 posted [p:976278845] in Disney 201... [t:80575220]...</cite> <quote>Toonstrack posted... </cite><quote>Lmfao yall dont want anything new and you gd know it.Last week you were begging Disney to literally remake the clone wars but in live actionYou want the same s* they've been feeding you for 3 decades</quote>Weird deflection. Never seen clones wars or rebels, dont see a need for a live action remake either. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Necronmon 09/24/23 3:29:35 PM #102:	Lmfao yall dont want anything new and you gd know it. Last week you were begging Disney to literally remake the clone wars but in live action You want the same s* they've been feeding you for 3 decades I'm the one who liked the Vong BECAUSE they were new! And they were unique, there weapons and powers were unique and there bio tech were the most effort they put into something that was its own identity from the Jedi and the Sith. Nom Anor, Vergere, Tsavong Lah, Omni and the others were some of the most fleshed out creations that were not from the movies...and Zonama Sekot was far more creative then ANY thing they did in the Disney trilogy, sure as hell this new galaxy in Askoa that's more of the same. And you assuming Luke had to be a farm boy that never evolved is far more damning then anything as there's plenty of hero's that start from humble origins to becoming badasses. Yeah... he carved out self sufficient life for himself and got the milk the same way every one else does lmfao. Thats not a reduction, he is a FARMBOY lmfao what do you think he's gonna do run a mercenary band? You never understood the character? How about LEAD THE NEW JEDI INSTEAD OF DOING NOTHING BUT FAIL! And even if you don't count anything in the old time line, its clear at least some want to still make Luke how he was suppose to be with stuff like his scene in Mando, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qf2OlsOV3c does seem like there's a divide between those who want Luke to be who he is suppose to be and the others who just want him to be a loser that just sets up for " The real hero" Ray to show how its done right. <cite>Necronmon posted [p:976280015] in Disney 201... [t:80575220]...</cite> <quote><quote>Lmfao yall dont want anything new and you gd know it.Last week you were begging Disney to literally remake the clone wars but in live actionYou want the same s* they've been feeding you for 3 decades</quote>I'm the one who liked the Vong BECAUSE they were new! And they were unique, there weapons and powers were unique and there bio tech were the most effort they put into something that was its own identity from the Jedi and the Sith. Nom Anor, Vergere, Tsavong Lah, Omni and the others were some of the most fleshed out creations that were not from the movies...and Zonama Sekot was far more creative then ANY thing they did in the Disney trilogy, sure as hell this new galaxy in Askoa that's more of the same. <quote>And you assuming Luke had to be a farm boy that never evolved is far more damning then anything as there's plenty of hero's that start from humble origins to becoming badasses. Yeah... he carved out self sufficient life for himself and got the milk the same way every one else does lmfao. Thats not a reduction, he is a FARMBOY lmfao what do you think he's gonna do run a mercenary band? </quote>You never understood the character? How about LEAD THE NEW JEDI INSTEAD OF DOING NOTHING BUT FAIL! And even if you don't count anything in the old time line, its clear at least some want to still make Luke how he was suppose to be with stuff like his scene in Mando, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qf2OlsOV3c does seem like there's a divide between those who want Luke to be who he is suppose to be and the others who just want him to be a loser that just sets up for " The real hero" Ray to show how its done right. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gobstoppers12 09/24/23 4:06:27 PM #103:	Necronmon posted... I'm the one who liked the Vong BECAUSE they were new! Thanks for the reminder, I forgot to tag you. --- (He/Him) I write Naruto Fanfiction. But I am definitely not a furry. <cite>Gobstoppers12 posted [p:976280804] in Disney 201... [t:80575220]...</cite> <quote>Necronmon posted... </cite><quote>I'm the one who liked the Vong BECAUSE they were new!</quote>Thanks for the reminder, I forgot to tag you. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Toonstrack 09/24/23 7:12:58 PM #104:	Necronmon posted... I'm the one who liked the Vong BECAUSE they were new! New =/= good The direction TLJ took the character was new, the questions it asked were new. Thats far better than just throwing in villains with random powers. The new high republic bad guys are at least promising without beign universe breaking. You never understood the character? How about LEAD THE NEW JEDI INSTEAD OF DOING NOTHING BUT FAIL! He did start a new jedi order. As for failure, that defines lukes entire character. He fails throughout his journey. But he never gives up. He just needed to be reminded of that. Heck, MOST of the jedi failed throughout. Their victories were over themselves. Again, you didn't understand Luke's purpose and his role. does seem like there's a divide between those who want Luke to be who he is suppose to be and the others who just want him to be a loser that just sets up for " The real hero" Ray to show how its done right. Rey fails too lmao. You completely misunderstood the entire point of the movies. She followed lukes example in more ways than one, and it wss luke in the end who motivated her to keep trying. One pretty fight scene isnt characterization. When are ysll gonna get this through your head. He as a CHARACTER is a soft spoken, good natured farm boy. He can still fight and do his thing but that isn't the point. I swear if he just beat kylos ass in TLJ you all would do a 180 and say its good because you dont understand character writing. --- This post didn't exist to you until you read it. You willed it into existence in your psyche by choosing to observe it. Thats the power you have. Use it well. <cite>Toonstrack posted [p:976284349] in Disney 201... [t:80575220]...</cite> <quote>Necronmon posted... </cite><quote>I'm the one who liked the Vong BECAUSE they were new! </quote>New =/= goodThe direction TLJ took the character was new, the questions it asked were new. Thats far better than just throwing in villains with random powers. The new high republic bad guys are at least promising without beign universe breaking.<quote>You never understood the character? How about LEAD THE NEW JEDI INSTEAD OF DOING NOTHING BUT FAIL! </quote>He did start a new jedi order. As for failure, that defines lukes entire character. He fails throughout his journey. But he never gives up. He just needed to be reminded of that.Heck, MOST of the jedi failed throughout. Their victories were over themselves. Again, you didn't understand Luke's purpose and his role.<quote> does seem like there's a divide between those who want Luke to be who he is suppose to be and the others who just want him to be a loser that just sets up for " The real hero" Ray to show how its done right.</quote>Rey fails too lmao.You completely misunderstood the entire point of the movies. She followed lukes example in more ways than one, and it wss luke in the end who motivated her to keep trying.One pretty fight scene isnt characterization. When are ysll gonna get this through your head. He as a CHARACTER is a soft spoken, good natured farm boy. He can still fight and do his thing but that isn't the point. I swear if he just beat kylos ass in TLJ you all would do a 180 and say its good because you dont understand character writing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Necronmon 09/24/23 9:06:24 PM #105:	Firstly I never read the High Republic anything but glancing at what the Nihil are there is no way that they are superior to the Vong with there god awful attire since they seem like just watered down lamer Mandolorians unless one has no taste. Yah he started the New Jedi Order but no one even seemed to know it existed since it seemed no one even knew they went away or something. This scene from the old timeline shows how different things are in tone. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-9pZDZGY-M It might not seem like much but it shows in the old timeline Luke and the New Jedi were on top of things and a active force, meanwhile in Asoka Luke's...who knows what he's doing but they are treated as to weak to even do much . One way to show the difference, in the old timeline Luke knows Kyle Katarn's flaws but knows the good in him and helps him become a Jedi his own way. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZHQbW4LNdQ Meanwhile in the new timeline Luke's order is just one hut and even with his father's student he seems to have no idea what to do doubling down on the same things that caused the Jedi to collapse in the past and turn away half of possible Jedi candidates because he's somehow become more rigid then Mace Windu was. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xjICCDgFHE The new era seems to be making the Jedi a lot weaker with no lasting impact compared to the old" Kept order for over a thousand years" and it makes them look weaker overall. I mean...when Ray failed its mostly because she does not finish the fight because of reasons like not finishing off Ren in 7 and 8 both times. Sure she followed Luke's path in saving Ren but they still made it clear " he was the failure so she could do it right." <cite>Necronmon posted [p:976286176] in Disney 201... [t:80575220]...</cite> <quote>Firstly I never read the High Republic anything but glancing at what the Nihil are there is no way that they are superior to the Vong with there god awful attire since they seem like just watered down lamer Mandolorians unless one has no taste. Yah he started the New Jedi Order but no one even seemed to know it existed since it seemed no one even knew they went away or something. This scene from the old timeline shows how different things are in tone. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-9pZDZGY-MIt might not seem like much but it shows in the old timeline Luke and the New Jedi were on top of things and a active force, meanwhile in Asoka Luke's...who knows what he's doing but they are treated as to weak to even do much . One way to show the difference, in the old timeline Luke knows Kyle Katarn's flaws but knows the good in him and helps him become a Jedi his own way. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZHQbW4LNdQMeanwhile in the new timeline Luke's order is just one hut and even with his father's student he seems to have no idea what to do doubling down on the same things that caused the Jedi to collapse in the past and turn away half of possible Jedi candidates because he's somehow become more rigid then Mace Windu was. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xjICCDgFHEThe new era seems to be making the Jedi a lot weaker with no lasting impact compared to the old" Kept order for over a thousand years" and it makes them look weaker overall. I mean...when Ray failed its mostly because she does not finish the fight because of reasons like not finishing off Ren in 7 and 8 both times. Sure she followed Luke's path in saving Ren but they still made it clear " he was the failure so she could do it right." </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Punished_Blinx 09/24/23 9:17:35 PM #106:	Yeah after the mixed reception of the prequels Disney and JJ Abrams clearly wanted to try and take things back to how they were in the OT. But in order to do that Luke's Jedi Order and the New Republic need to be failures. It was a good idea at the time and audiences clearly were happy with a return to roots but it has made that period of the universe overall pretty awkward to explore with new material. It is what it is really. The EU had the advantage of not having to worry about movies set after ROTJ but it also meant there was just more content to pick and choose from. I will give Disney credit that most of the stuff they have added between the PT and OT has been pretty good. --- A Fallen Mascot <cite>Punished_Blinx posted [p:976286352] in Disney 201... [t:80575220]...</cite> <quote>Yeah after the mixed reception of the prequels Disney and JJ Abrams clearly wanted to try and take things back to how they were in the OT. But in order to do that Luke's Jedi Order and the New Republic need to be failures. It was a good idea at the time and audiences clearly were happy with a return to roots but it has made that period of the universe overall pretty awkward to explore with new material. It is what it is really. The EU had the advantage of not having to worry about movies set after ROTJ but it also meant there was just more content to pick and choose from. I will give Disney credit that most of the stuff they have added between the PT and OT has been pretty good. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Toonstrack 09/25/23 1:07:59 AM #107:	Necronmon posted... Firstly I never read the High Republic anything but glancing at what the Nihil are there is no way that they are superior to the Vong with there god awful attire since they seem like just watered down lamer Mandolorians unless one has no taste. Literslly all the vong have going for them is the BS force powers. Thats the only reason anyone even remembers them Yah he started the New Jedi Order but no one even seemed to know it existed since it seemed no one even knew they went away or something. This scene from the old timeline shows how different things are in tone. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-9pZDZGY-M Why should they know it exists? Those students would obviously be in potential danger snd need to be isolate against threats, as any situ loyalists would not want to see the order returned. It might not seem like much but it shows in the old timeline Luke and the New Jedi were on top of things and a active force, meanwhile in Asoka Luke's...who knows what he's doing but they are treated as to weak to even do much . .... this doesn't even make sense. One way to show the difference, in the old timeline Luke knows Kyle Katarn's flaws but knows the good in him and helps him become a Jedi his own way. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZHQbW4LNdQ Meanwhile in the new timeline Luke's order is just one hut and even with his father's student he seems to have no idea what to do doubling down on the same things that caused the Jedi to collapse in the past and turn away half of possible Jedi candidates because he's somehow become more rigid then Mace Windu was. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xjICCDgFHE The new era seems to be making the Jedi a lot weaker with no lasting impact compared to the old" Kept order for over a thousand years" and it makes them look weaker overall. First off I hope you know I'm not watching a bunch of YT videos for a gamefaqs debate lol. Niether the time nor investment. Link one relevant video or none. Second, the Jedis empire was built on sand, with a healthy dose of corruption, and a few lies. Thats always been the case. That's why it fell so quickly. The jedi, in the OT were implied to be these hermit monks, who barely anyone knew about. A religious cult of warriors who barely even fight unless absolutely necessary. Wasnt til the PT that the clone wars stuff was introduced and they were recontextualized as soldiers. If that makes them "weak" to you you still don't understand the point of the jedi snd that their strength has nil to do with how much ass they kick. I mean...when Ray failed its mostly because she does not finish the fight because of reasons like not finishing off Ren in 7 and 8 both times. Sure she followed Luke's path in saving Ren but they still made it clear " he was the failure so she could do it right." No, that wasn't the case. Rey failed to save kylo in TLJ, literally that was ALL luke in the final act. In TROS, Rey AND Ben have to work together to beat the forces of Palpatine, and she has to call on every jedi ever to kill him. Then she dies. She's much more treated as a vessel of fate given luck than some person who is supposed to trounce luke. She wins exactly 1 actual fight on her own in the entire trilogy. How is your argument simultaneously that the jedi are too weak, but also that the jedi Rey is too strong? It doesn't add. --- This post didn't exist to you until you read it. You willed it into existence in your psyche by choosing to observe it. Thats the power you have. Use it well. <cite>Toonstrack posted [p:976289392] in Disney 201... [t:80575220]...</cite> <quote>Necronmon posted... </cite><quote>Firstly I never read the High Republic anything but glancing at what the Nihil are there is no way that they are superior to the Vong with there god awful attire since they seem like just watered down lamer Mandolorians unless one has no taste.</quote>Literslly all the vong have going for them is the BS force powers. Thats the only reason anyone even remembers them<quote>Yah he started the New Jedi Order but no one even seemed to know it existed since it seemed no one even knew they went away or something. This scene from the old timeline shows how different things are in tone. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-9pZDZGY-M</quote>Why should they know it exists? Those students would obviously be in potential danger snd need to be isolate against threats, as any situ loyalists would not want to see the order returned.<quote>It might not seem like much but it shows in the old timeline Luke and the New Jedi were on top of things and a active force, meanwhile in Asoka Luke's...who knows what he's doing but they are treated as to weak to even do much .</quote>.... this doesn't even make sense.<quote>One way to show the difference, in the old timeline Luke knows Kyle Katarn's flaws but knows the good in him and helps him become a Jedi his own way. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZHQbW4LNdQMeanwhile in the new timeline Luke's order is just one hut and even with his father's student he seems to have no idea what to do doubling down on the same things that caused the Jedi to collapse in the past and turn away half of possible Jedi candidates because he's somehow become more rigid then Mace Windu was. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xjICCDgFHEThe new era seems to be making the Jedi a lot weaker with no lasting impact compared to the old" Kept order for over a thousand years" and it makes them look weaker overall.</quote>First off I hope you know I'm not watching a bunch of YT videos for a gamefaqs debate lol. Niether the time nor investment. Link one relevant video or none. Second, the Jedis empire was built on sand, with a healthy dose of corruption, and a few lies. Thats always been the case. That's why it fell so quickly. The jedi, in the OT were implied to be these hermit monks, who barely anyone knew about. A religious cult of warriors who barely even fight unless absolutely necessary. Wasnt til the PT that the clone wars stuff was introduced and they were recontextualized as soldiers.If that makes them "weak" to you you still don't understand the point of the jedi snd that their strength has nil to do with how much ass they kick. <quote>I mean...when Ray failed its mostly because she does not finish the fight because of reasons like not finishing off Ren in 7 and 8 both times. Sure she followed Luke's path in saving Ren but they still made it clear " he was the failure so she could do it right."</quote>No, that wasn't the case. Rey failed to save kylo in TLJ, literally that was ALL luke in the final act. In TROS, Rey AND Ben have to work together to beat the forces of Palpatine, and she has to call on every jedi ever to kill him. Then she dies. She's much more treated as a vessel of fate given luck than some person who is supposed to trounce luke. She wins exactly 1 actual fight on her own in the entire trilogy. How is your argument simultaneously that the jedi are too weak, but also that the jedi Rey is too strong? It doesn't add. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bfslick50 09/25/23 1:25:58 AM #108:	Toonstrack posted... Literslly all the vong have going for them is the BS force powers. Thats the only reason anyone even remembers them Their reliance on organic technology instead of metal was high novelty. Their tactics of divide and conquer were memorable and distinct. I only read one book in the series but they convinced the people of the floating cities or space station that theyd be spared cause Vong only wanted the organic planet, then they of course back stabbed the people that helped them once they got the planet. That kind of tactic doesnt work for Sith, everyone knows from the start they dont show mercy and theres no deals with them. --- "Something's wrong! Murder isn't working and that's all we're good at." ~Futurama <cite>bfslick50 posted [p:976289541] in Disney 201... [t:80575220]...</cite> <quote>Toonstrack posted... </cite><quote>Literslly all the vong have going for them is the BS force powers. Thats the only reason anyone even remembers them</quote>Their reliance on organic technology instead of metal was high novelty. Their tactics of divide and conquer were memorable and distinct. I only read one book in the series but they convinced the people of the floating cities or space station that theyd be spared cause Vong only wanted the organic planet, then they of course back stabbed the people that helped them once they got the planet. That kind of tactic doesnt work for Sith, everyone knows from the start they dont show mercy and theres no deals with them. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Necronmon 09/25/23 1:48:29 AM #109:	Yah the Vong's plans made more sense then the First Order's plans did, and at least they did not fall apart as easily as the First Order did. Why should they know it exists? Those students would obviously be in potential danger snd need to be isolate against threats, as any situ loyalists would not want to see the order returned. Because...they were backed by the New Republic? Which is just why they lasted longer in the old timeline when they had the full backing of Leia and co? If your not even bothering to watch short videos then , ( Facepalm) But for the sake of the others I'll try and explain anyway. First off I hope you know I'm not watching a bunch of YT videos for a gamefaqs debate lol. Niether the time nor investment. Link one relevant video or none. Second, the Jedis empire was built on sand, with a healthy dose of corruption, and a few lies. Thats always been the case. That's why it fell so quickly. The jedi, in the OT were implied to be these hermit monks, who barely anyone knew about. A religious cult of warriors who barely even fight unless absolutely necessary. Wasnt til the PT that the clone wars stuff was introduced and they were recontextualized as soldiers. If that makes them "weak" to you you still don't understand the point of the jedi snd that their strength has nil to do with how much ass they kick. We SAW how in the Prequels they were right on the capital planet, they were far from " Built on sand" when they had been around for thousands of years shutting down one threat after another till Sidious set them up. No, that wasn't the case. Rey failed to save kylo in TLJ, literally that was ALL luke in the final act. In TROS, Rey AND Ben have to work together to beat the forces of Palpatine, and she has to call on every jedi ever to kill him. Then she dies. She's much more treated as a vessel of fate given luck than some person who is supposed to trounce luke. She wins exactly 1 actual fight on her own in the entire trilogy. How is your argument simultaneously that the jedi are too weak, but also that the jedi Rey is too strong? It doesn't add. I meant she should have KILLED Ren in the Last Jedi...and...she just about won fights over all the grunts, the so called" Elite" royal guards, that god damn stunt with the Tie Fighter and the Knights of Ren so...she only " Lost" to Snoke right before Ren killed him... <cite>Necronmon posted [p:976289775] in Disney 201... [t:80575220]...</cite> <quote>Yah the Vong's plans made more sense then the First Order's plans did, and at least they did not fall apart as easily as the First Order did. <quote>Why should they know it exists? Those students would obviously be in potential danger snd need to be isolate against threats, as any situ loyalists would not want to see the order returned.</quote>Because...they were backed by the New Republic? Which is just why they lasted longer in the old timeline when they had the full backing of Leia and co? If your not even bothering to watch short videos then , ( Facepalm) But for the sake of the others I'll try and explain anyway. First off I hope you know I'm not watching a bunch of YT videos for a gamefaqs debate lol. Niether the time nor investment. Link one relevant video or none. <quote>Second, the Jedis empire was built on sand, with a healthy dose of corruption, and a few lies. Thats always been the case. That's why it fell so quickly. The jedi, in the OT were implied to be these hermit monks, who barely anyone knew about. A religious cult of warriors who barely even fight unless absolutely necessary. Wasnt til the PT that the clone wars stuff was introduced and they were recontextualized as soldiers.If that makes them "weak" to you you still don't understand the point of the jedi snd that their strength has nil to do with how much ass they kick. </quote>We SAW how in the Prequels they were right on the capital planet, they were far from " Built on sand" when they had been around for thousands of years shutting down one threat after another till Sidious set them up. <quote>No, that wasn't the case. Rey failed to save kylo in TLJ, literally that was ALL luke in the final act. In TROS, Rey AND Ben have to work together to beat the forces of Palpatine, and she has to call on every jedi ever to kill him. Then she dies. She's much more treated as a vessel of fate given luck than some person who is supposed to trounce luke. She wins exactly 1 actual fight on her own in the entire trilogy. How is your argument simultaneously that the jedi are too weak, but also that the jedi Rey is too strong? It doesn't add.</quote>I meant she should have KILLED Ren in the Last Jedi...and...she just about won fights over all the grunts, the so called" Elite" royal guards, that god damn stunt with the Tie Fighter and the Knights of Ren so...she only " Lost" to Snoke right before Ren killed him...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xGhostchantx 09/25/23 1:54:56 AM #110:	Monferno_AQW posted... We're told that life cannot exist without midichlorians and, in extension, the Force, yet the Vong exist without either. Womp womp. You didn't read it. Which is fine, you don't have to if you don't want to, but it just doesn't make sense to comment on it like that since you clearly don't know the story. They do exist within the Force and they are naturally Force sensitive. --- Tiw - Min scild, min sweord Woden - Se ALLFAEDER he is, naes hwitra manna anra <cite>xGhostchantx posted [p:976289834] in Disney 201... [t:80575220]...</cite> <quote>Monferno_AQW posted... </cite><quote>We're told that life cannot exist without midichlorians and, in extension, the Force, yet the Vong exist without either.</quote>Womp womp. You didn't read it. Which is fine, you don't have to if you don't want to, but it just doesn't make sense to comment on it like that since you clearly don't know the story. They do exist within the Force and they are naturally Force sensitive. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Toonstrack 09/25/23 2:08:35 AM #111:	bfslick50 posted... Their reliance on organic technology instead of metal was high novelty. Their tactics of divide and conquer were memorable and distinct. I only read one book in the series but they convinced the people of the floating cities or space station that theyd be spared cause Vong only wanted the organic planet, then they of course back stabbed the people that helped them once they got the planet. That kind of tactic doesnt work for Sith, everyone knows from the start they dont show mercy and theres no deals with them. Tf you mean lol palpy literally infiltrated the highest government in the world, got countless world systems on his side and enacted a galactic proxy war to take down the thousand year jedi reign almost singlehandedly without anyone suspecting him Tricking people is absolutely in sith playbook lmao --- This post didn't exist to you until you read it. You willed it into existence in your psyche by choosing to observe it. Thats the power you have. Use it well. <cite>Toonstrack posted [p:976289958] in Disney 201... [t:80575220]...</cite> <quote>bfslick50 posted... </cite><quote>Their reliance on organic technology instead of metal was high novelty. Their tactics of divide and conquer were memorable and distinct. I only read one book in the series but they convinced the people of the floating cities or space station that theyd be spared cause Vong only wanted the organic planet, then they of course back stabbed the people that helped them once they got the planet. That kind of tactic doesnt work for Sith, everyone knows from the start they dont show mercy and theres no deals with them.</quote>Tf you mean lol palpy literally infiltrated the highest government in the world, got countless world systems on his side and enacted a galactic proxy war to take down the thousand year jedi reign almost singlehandedly without anyone suspecting himTricking people is absolutely in sith playbook lmao </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Necronmon 09/25/23 2:16:03 AM #112:	I admit, that does seem like it should be saying the Empire can't be trusted would fit better. <cite>Necronmon posted [p:976290018] in Disney 201... [t:80575220]...</cite> <quote>I admit, that does seem like it should be saying the Empire can't be trusted would fit better. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Toonstrack 09/25/23 2:17:40 AM #113:	Necronmon posted... Yah the Vong's plans made more sense then the First Order's plans did, and at least they did not fall apart as easily as the First Order did. The first orders plan worked almost without a hitch to the point that even when the good guys "won" in part one they were still losing. They literally crippled their entire enemy army, leadership, support etc in one fell swoop. Because...they were backed by the New Republic? Which is just why they lasted longer in the old timeline when they had the full backing of Leia and co? If your not even bothering to watch short videos then , ( Facepalm) But for the sake of the others I'll try and explain anyway. That has nothing to do with why a bunch of randos should know all their whereabouts even the jedi were pretty secretive. We SAW how in the Prequels they were right on the capital planet, they were far from " Built on sand" when they had been around for thousands of years shutting down one threat after another till Sidious set them up. Theres zero indication that there was a major conflict or several large ones up to the point of TPM. In fact it seems to be a time fo relative peace with some politics dividing things and smaller scale conflicts. The very fact that the jedi did not have or need a clone army is proof of this, and thats why syfo dias didn't get initial approval to commission it. I meant she should have KILLED Ren in the Last Jedi...and...she just about won fights over all the grunts, the so called" Elite" royal guards, that god damn stunt with the Tie Fighter and the Knights of Ren so...she only " Lost" to Snoke right before Ren killed him... She couldn't kill Ren. Hes way, way stronger than her and we saw that ok multiple occasions. You guys like to pretend that we aren't shown that but we are. He beats her effortlessly in TROS. Ren saved her hide multiple times in that fight with her guads not to mention releasing her from captivity lol. Hes the only reason she walked out of that room alive. Slicing a tie fighter is litersllt a result of her training under leia, its just a force jump lol. You're trying SOOO hard to make this something it isn't but the actual content paints the picture perfectly. Shes got basic skills and talent but she's routinely outclassed throughout the films and only survives by getting help or getting bailed out every single time. --- This post didn't exist to you until you read it. You willed it into existence in your psyche by choosing to observe it. Thats the power you have. Use it well. <cite>Toonstrack posted [p:976290036] in Disney 201... [t:80575220]...</cite> <quote>Necronmon posted... </cite><quote>Yah the Vong's plans made more sense then the First Order's plans did, and at least they did not fall apart as easily as the First Order did. </quote>The first orders plan worked almost without a hitch to the point that even when the good guys "won" in part one they were still losing.They literally crippled their entire enemy army, leadership, support etc in one fell swoop.<quote>Because...they were backed by the New Republic? Which is just why they lasted longer in the old timeline when they had the full backing of Leia and co? If your not even bothering to watch short videos then , ( Facepalm) But for the sake of the others I'll try and explain anyway. </quote>That has nothing to do with why a bunch of randos should know all their whereabouts even the jedi were pretty secretive.<quote>We SAW how in the Prequels they were right on the capital planet, they were far from " Built on sand" when they had been around for thousands of years shutting down one threat after another till Sidious set them up. </quote>Theres zero indication that there was a major conflict or several large ones up to the point of TPM. In fact it seems to be a time fo relative peace with some politics dividing things and smaller scale conflicts.The very fact that the jedi did not have or need a clone army is proof of this, and thats why syfo dias didn't get initial approval to commission it.<quote>I meant she should have KILLED Ren in the Last Jedi...and...she just about won fights over all the grunts, the so called" Elite" royal guards, that god damn stunt with the Tie Fighter and the Knights of Ren so...she only " Lost" to Snoke right before Ren killed him...</quote>She couldn't kill Ren. Hes way, way stronger than her and we saw that ok multiple occasions. You guys like to pretend that we aren't shown that but we are. He beats her effortlessly in TROS.Ren saved her hide multiple times in that fight with her guads not to mention releasing her from captivity lol. Hes the only reason she walked out of that room alive. Slicing a tie fighter is litersllt a result of her training under leia, its just a force jump lol. You're trying SOOO hard to make this something it isn't but the actual content paints the picture perfectly. Shes got basic skills and talent but she's routinely outclassed throughout the films and only survives by getting help or getting bailed out every single time. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Necronmon 09/25/23 3:12:08 AM #114:	And yet somehow the Final Order 's ultimate trump cards fell apart because they did not even have shields...and that only happened because JJ realized he wrote himself in a corner so he gave the" Ultimate" fleet brain dead weaknesses and despite having" Total control over everyone" they fell apart in a instant the moment Sidious died again...unless we find out that's wrong in the new movie but we will see. Theres zero indication that there was a major conflict or several large ones up to the point of TPM. In fact it seems to be a time fo relative peace with some politics dividing things and smaller scale conflicts. The very fact that the jedi did not have or need a clone army is proof of this, and thats why syfo dias didn't get initial approval to commission it. I mean...we had Hundred-Year Darkness. Great Hyperspace War/Legends. Shrine in the Depths. Sith Wars. Darth Bane. Sith Empire. And more so yah, they had plenty of conflicts. Snoke's reaction to him would not be this if he was so superior to her. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kI-L7egM6V0 Slicing a tie fighter is litersllt a result of her training under leia, its just a force jump lol. You're trying SOOO hard to make this something it isn't but the actual content paints the picture perfectly. Shes got basic skills and talent but she's routinely outclassed throughout the films and only survives by getting help or getting bailed out every single time. Oh yes...its basic Jedi training to slice through fighters that's why it happened all the time...oh wait it all but never happened and even in the EU timeline Jedi were not able to casually slice through TIE fighters like it was easy. <cite>Necronmon posted [p:976290431] in Disney 201... [t:80575220]...</cite> <quote>And yet somehow the Final Order 's ultimate trump cards fell apart because they did not even have shields...and that only happened because JJ realized he wrote himself in a corner so he gave the" Ultimate" fleet brain dead weaknesses and despite having" Total control over everyone" they fell apart in a instant the moment Sidious died again...unless we find out that's wrong in the new movie but we will see. Theres zero indication that there was a major conflict or several large ones up to the point of TPM. In fact it seems to be a time fo relative peace with some politics dividing things and smaller scale conflicts.The very fact that the jedi did not have or need a clone army is proof of this, and thats why syfo dias didn't get initial approval to commission it.I mean...we had Hundred-Year Darkness.Great Hyperspace War/Legends.Shrine in the Depths.Sith Wars.Darth Bane.Sith Empire.And more so yah, they had plenty of conflicts. Snoke's reaction to him would not be this if he was so superior to her. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kI-L7egM6V0<quote>Slicing a tie fighter is litersllt a result of her training under leia, its just a force jump lol. You're trying SOOO hard to make this something it isn't but the actual content paints the picture perfectly. Shes got basic skills and talent but she's routinely outclassed throughout the films and only survives by getting help or getting bailed out every single time.</quote>Oh yes...its basic Jedi training to slice through fighters that's why it happened all the time...oh wait it all but never happened and even in the EU timeline Jedi were not able to casually slice through TIE fighters like it was easy. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Toonstrack 09/25/23 1:12:43 PM #115:	Necronmon posted... And yet somehow the Final Order 's ultimate trump cards fell apart because they did not even have shields...and that only happened because JJ realized he wrote himself in a corner so he gave the" Ultimate" fleet brain dead weaknesses and despite having" Total control over everyone" they fell apart in a instant the moment Sidious died again...unless we find out that's wrong in the new movie but we will see. What are you talking about, rey redirected his force lightning into his own fleet, he destroyed them with his power. But the on the ground folks had to actively disrupt the generators to be able to do this. There was no "there was no shields" lol the empire didn't have random shields either. Theres zero indication that there was a major conflict or several large ones up to the point of TPM. In fact it seems to be a time fo relative peace with some politics dividing things and smaller scale conflicts. The very fact that the jedi did not have or need a clone army is proof of this, and thats why syfo dias didn't get initial approval to commission it. * I mean...we had Hundred-Year Darkness. * Great Hyperspace War/Legends. * Shrine in the Depths. * Sith Wars. * Darth Bane. * Sith Empire. And more so yah, they had plenty of conflicts. Those were all implied to gave happened hundreds of years ago, if not thousands. Thats not during the era of the phantom menace or anywhere around then. Snoke's reaction to him would not be this if he was so superior to her. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kI-L7egM6V0 Of course it would, hes manipulating him LMFAO. He literally mocks him for even losing to her my dude. You aren't making sense. Hes trying to trile him up and says essentially "you lost to a newbie, you suck" at no point does he EVER indicate he considers Rey on the same playing field as kylo. Oh yes...its basic Jedi training to slice through fighters that's why it happened all the time...oh wait it all but never happened and even in the EU timeline Jedi were not able to casually slice through TIE fighters like it was easy. They were able to do much, much stronger things than that. You are seriously saying that a jedi jumping high and a ligjtsaber doing exactly what a lightsaber does is too much for you while defending the EU. Thats hilarious. The legends feats make every jedi in the films look like absolute wussies and implies they are all low level gods. You canot be taken seriously if you're trying to argue that one jumping real high is too powerful. --- This post didn't exist to you until you read it. You willed it into existence in your psyche by choosing to observe it. Thats the power you have. Use it well. <cite>Toonstrack posted [p:976296890] in Disney 201... [t:80575220]...</cite> <quote>Necronmon posted... </cite><quote>And yet somehow the Final Order 's ultimate trump cards fell apart because they did not even have shields...and that only happened because JJ realized he wrote himself in a corner so he gave the" Ultimate" fleet brain dead weaknesses and despite having" Total control over everyone" they fell apart in a instant the moment Sidious died again...unless we find out that's wrong in the new movie but we will see.</quote>What are you talking about, rey redirected his force lightning into his own fleet, he destroyed them with his power. But the on the ground folks had to actively disrupt the generators to be able to do this. There was no "there was no shields" lol the empire didn't have random shields either.<quote>Theres zero indication that there was a major conflict or several large ones up to the point of TPM. In fact it seems to be a time fo relative peace with some politics dividing things and smaller scale conflicts.The very fact that the jedi did not have or need a clone army is proof of this, and thats why syfo dias didn't get initial approval to commission it.* I mean...we had Hundred-Year Darkness.* Great Hyperspace War/Legends.* Shrine in the Depths.* Sith Wars.* Darth Bane.* Sith Empire.And more so yah, they had plenty of conflicts.</quote>Those were all implied to gave happened hundreds of years ago, if not thousands. Thats not during the era of the phantom menace or anywhere around then.<quote>Snoke's reaction to him would not be this if he was so superior to her. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kI-L7egM6V0</quote>Of course it would, hes manipulating him LMFAO.He literally mocks him for even losing to her my dude. You aren't making sense. Hes trying to trile him up and says essentially "you lost to a newbie, you suck" at no point does he EVER indicate he considers Rey on the same playing field as kylo.<quote>Oh yes...its basic Jedi training to slice through fighters that's why it happened all the time...oh wait it all but never happened and even in the EU timeline Jedi were not able to casually slice through TIE fighters like it was easy.</quote>They were able to do much, much stronger things than that. You are seriously saying that a jedi jumping high and a ligjtsaber doing exactly what a lightsaber does is too much for you while defending the EU. Thats hilarious.The legends feats make every jedi in the films look like absolute wussies and implies they are all low level gods. You canot be taken seriously if you're trying to argue that one jumping real high is too powerful. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WellKnownNomad 09/25/23 1:13:48 PM #116:	Bio1590 posted... ngl I thought this was about the European Union --- "Anime is for jerks" - Jeff Gerstmann <cite>WellKnownNomad posted [p:976296906] in Disney 201... [t:80575220]...</cite> <quote>Bio1590 posted... </cite><quote>ngl I thought this was about the European Union</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kradek 09/25/23 1:16:16 PM #117:	I thought this was about the European Union --- My metal band, Ivory King, has 2 songs out now - allmylinks.com/ivorykingtx (all of our links there so you can choose which one you'd prefer to use) <cite>Kradek posted [p:976296952] in Disney 201... [t:80575220]...</cite> <quote>I thought this was about the European Union </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bfslick50 09/25/23 7:55:16 PM #118:	Toonstrack posted... Tf you mean lol palpy literally infiltrated the highest government in the world, got countless world systems on his side and enacted a galactic proxy war to take down the thousand year jedi reign almost singlehandedly without anyone suspecting him Tricking people is absolutely in sith playbook lmao Ok it's not that the Sith don't use trickety, but that the way the Vong do it is substantially different. The Sith is a lot of "Ha you didn't know I was evil" followed by "ha I've predicted your every move." The Vong had substantially more bad faith negotiations. It's just a different type of interaction. Not necessarily better or worse, but they're far more distinct and memorable than the other non-Sidious villains. --- "Something's wrong! Murder isn't working and that's all we're good at." ~Futurama <cite>bfslick50 posted [p:976304375] in Disney 201... [t:80575220]...</cite> <quote>Toonstrack posted... </cite><quote>Tf you mean lol palpy literally infiltrated the highest government in the world, got countless world systems on his side and enacted a galactic proxy war to take down the thousand year jedi reign almost singlehandedly without anyone suspecting himTricking people is absolutely in sith playbook lmao</quote>Ok it's not that the Sith don't use trickety, but that the way the Vong do it is substantially different. The Sith is a lot of "Ha you didn't know I was evil" followed by "ha I've predicted your every move." The Vong had substantially more bad faith negotiations. It's just a different type of interaction. Not necessarily better or worse, but they're far more distinct and memorable than the other non-Sidious villains. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xGhostchantx 09/25/23 9:43:58 PM #119:	Toonstrack posted... Tf you mean lol palpy literally infiltrated the highest government in the world, got countless world systems on his side and enacted a galactic proxy war to take down the thousand year jedi reign almost singlehandedly without anyone suspecting him Tricking people is absolutely in sith playbook lmao The Vong's political machinations were never to take over, they were to de-stabilize it and destroy it for their faith; if you'd read any of the books you'd know this. They're not the same ambitions. Again, you don't need to have read the books, but it's a series with a huge over-arching plot and if you haven't read them you don't really know what you're talking about. The Wiki article is enormous, but pretty thorough. The Vong were Force sensitive, they existed in the Force, they weren't as interested in taking control as they were with just straight up destroying all technology. All of it. Their motivations, tactics, technology, faith and power are completely different. --- Tiw - Min scild, min sweord Woden - Se ALLFAEDER he is, naes hwitra manna anra <cite>xGhostchantx posted [p:976306761] in Disney 201... [t:80575220]...</cite> <quote>Toonstrack posted... </cite><quote>Tf you mean lol palpy literally infiltrated the highest government in the world, got countless world systems on his side and enacted a galactic proxy war to take down the thousand year jedi reign almost singlehandedly without anyone suspecting himTricking people is absolutely in sith playbook lmao</quote>The Vong's political machinations were never to take over, they were to de-stabilize it and destroy it for their faith; if you'd read any of the books you'd know this. They're not the same ambitions. Again, you don't need to have read the books, but it's a series with a huge over-arching plot and if you haven't read them you don't really know what you're talking about. The Wiki article is enormous, but pretty thorough.The Vong were Force sensitive, they existed in the Force, they weren't as interested in taking control as they were with just straight up destroying all technology. All of it. Their motivations, tactics, technology, faith and power are completely different. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gobstoppers12 09/25/23 9:50:17 PM #120:	xGhostchantx posted... The Vong's political machinations God, I hate that the EU made it so that sentences like this exist. --- (He/Him) I write Naruto Fanfiction. But I am definitely not a furry. <cite>Gobstoppers12 posted [p:976306868] in Disney 201... [t:80575220]...</cite> <quote>xGhostchantx posted... </cite><quote>The Vong's political machinations</quote>God, I hate that the EU made it so that sentences like this exist. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xGhostchantx 09/25/23 9:50:45 PM #121:	Gobstoppers12 posted... God, I hate that the EU made it so that sentences like this exist. Shrug. Wars need some kind of starting point. Nom Anor was pretty sweet though. The whole thing was really to just pursue his own agenda as a side plot, but it would've happened anyway. 50 years later we're just reliving the same story. Sith and/or Palpatine alone eeeebil space hitlers and take over. The Vong is the only interesting thing that's happened since Return. --- Tiw - Min scild, min sweord Woden - Se ALLFAEDER he is, naes hwitra manna anra <cite>xGhostchantx posted [p:976306878] in Disney 201... [t:80575220]...</cite> <quote>Gobstoppers12 posted... </cite><quote>God, I hate that the EU made it so that sentences like this exist.</quote>Shrug. Wars need some kind of starting point. Nom Anor was pretty sweet though. The whole thing was really to just pursue his own agenda as a side plot, but it would've happened anyway. 50 years later we're just reliving the same story. Sith and/or Palpatine alone eeeebil space hitlers and take over. The Vong is the only interesting thing that's happened since Return. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gobstoppers12 09/25/23 9:58:57 PM #122:	xGhostchantx posted... The Vong is the only interesting thing that's happened since Return. The Vong are the single worst thing to have ever been introduced to Star Wars. I understand that a very small group of people has somehow managed to convince themselves that the Vong are actually cool, but... They are not cool. --- (He/Him) I write Naruto Fanfiction. But I am definitely not a furry. <cite>Gobstoppers12 posted [p:976307026] in Disney 201... [t:80575220]...</cite> <quote>xGhostchantx posted... </cite><quote>The Vong is the only interesting thing that's happened since Return.</quote>The Vong are the single worst thing to have ever been introduced to Star Wars. I understand that a very small group of people has somehow managed to convince themselves that the Vong are actually cool, but...They are not cool. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xGhostchantx 09/25/23 9:59:38 PM #123:	Gobstoppers12 posted... The Vong are the single worst thing to have ever been introduced to Star Wars. I understand that a very small group of people has somehow managed to convince themselves that they're actually cool, but... They are not cool. Lol, most people haven't read the 15+ book series so they're just parroting opinions movie die hards say. Books are long and it's a huge series so I don't blame people for not wanting to commit to it, but if you haven't read each of them, kindly stop, because it means you know nothing about the Vong beyond what someone on reddit told you. Most of the EU is shit, I've read about 100 of the 290 odd books in it (Red Harvest is particularly fucking bad and I probably won't read the rest), the Vong is the best thing to come from it and the best thing since Return. --- Tiw - Min scild, min sweord Woden - Se ALLFAEDER he is, naes hwitra manna anra <cite>xGhostchantx posted [p:976307038] in Disney 201... [t:80575220]...</cite> <quote>Gobstoppers12 posted... </cite><quote>The Vong are the single worst thing to have ever been introduced to Star Wars. I understand that a very small group of people has somehow managed to convince themselves that they're actually cool, but...They are not cool.</quote>Lol, most people haven't read the 15+ book series so they're just parroting opinions movie die hards say. Books are long and it's a huge series so I don't blame people for not wanting to commit to it, but if you haven't read each of them, kindly stop, because it means you know nothing about the Vong beyond what someone on reddit told you.Most of the EU is shit, I've read about 100 of the 290 odd books in it (Red Harvest is particularly fucking bad and I probably won't read the rest), the Vong is the best thing to come from it and the best thing since Return. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gobstoppers12 09/25/23 10:06:10 PM #124:	xGhostchantx posted... but if you haven't read each of them, kindly stop I've read about seven of the NJO books here and there. Had the first three in the early 2000s as a Christmas gift. I read those three. Thought the Vong were truly garbage, so I didn't pursue further. A few years later when I was in college, I noticed that the library on campus had some Star Wars books. I read most of what I've read from the EU during my time there. The Heir to the Empire trilogy, Courtship of Princess Leia, The Truce at Bakura, Hard Merchandise, and (against my own better judgement) a few more NJO books later in the series so I could see how things developed. Things did not get better in later books. Honestly they seemed to get worse. --- (He/Him) I write Naruto Fanfiction. But I am definitely not a furry. <cite>Gobstoppers12 posted [p:976307194] in Disney 201... [t:80575220]...</cite> <quote>xGhostchantx posted... </cite><quote>but if you haven't read each of them, kindly stop</quote>I've read about seven of the NJO books here and there. Had the first three in the early 2000s as a Christmas gift. I read those three. Thought the Vong were truly garbage, so I didn't pursue further. A few years later when I was in college, I noticed that the library on campus had some Star Wars books. I read most of what I've read from the EU during my time there. The Heir to the Empire trilogy, Courtship of Princess Leia, The Truce at Bakura, Hard Merchandise, and (against my own better judgement) a few more NJO books later in the series so I could see how things developed.Things did not get better in later books. Honestly they seemed to get worse. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xGhostchantx 09/25/23 10:07:10 PM #125:	Gobstoppers12 posted... I've read about seven of the NJO books here and there. Had the first three in the early 2000s as a Christmas gift. I read those three. Thought the Vong were truly garbage, so I didn't pursue further. A few years later when I was in college, I noticed that the library on campus had some Star Wars books. I read most of what I've read from the EU during my time there. Heir to the Empire, Courtship of Princess Leia, The Truce at Bakura, Hard Merchandise, and (against my own better judgement) a few more NJO books later in the series so I could see how things developed. Things did not get better in later books. Honestly they seemed to get worse. I'm happy for you but the NJO (none of those) is not the Vong war and have nothing to do with it outside the fact that it was connected to it by necessity. --- Tiw - Min scild, min sweord Woden - Se ALLFAEDER he is, naes hwitra manna anra <cite>xGhostchantx posted [p:976307212] in Disney 201... [t:80575220]...</cite> <quote>Gobstoppers12 posted... </cite><quote>I've read about seven of the NJO books here and there. Had the first three in the early 2000s as a Christmas gift. I read those three. Thought the Vong were truly garbage, so I didn't pursue further. A few years later when I was in college, I noticed that the library on campus had some Star Wars books. I read most of what I've read from the EU during my time there. Heir to the Empire, Courtship of Princess Leia, The Truce at Bakura, Hard Merchandise, and (against my own better judgement) a few more NJO books later in the series so I could see how things developed.Things did not get better in later books. Honestly they seemed to get worse.</quote>I'm happy for you but the NJO (none of those) is not the Vong war and have nothing to do with it outside the fact that it was connected to it by necessity. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Punished_Blinx 09/25/23 10:12:09 PM #126:	https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/9/8/AACT2jAAE346.jpg The Vong sure look like characters from the 90s --- A Fallen Mascot <cite>Punished_Blinx posted [p:976307302] in Disney 201... [t:80575220]...</cite> <quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/9/8/AACT2jAAE346.jpg The Vong sure look like characters from the 90s </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gobstoppers12 09/25/23 10:12:42 PM #127:	xGhostchantx posted... I'm happy for you but the NJO (none of those) is not the Vong war and have nothing to do with it outside the fact that it was connected to it by necessity. But...that's the series the Vong debut in, and then they immediately start ~~dropping moons on Chewbacca~~ and shit. I fail to see how that has "nothing to do with it" tbh. Point being, the Vong are in those books and the Vong are trash in those books. --- (He/Him) I write Naruto Fanfiction. But I am definitely not a furry. <cite>Gobstoppers12 posted [p:976307312] in Disney 201... [t:80575220]...</cite> <quote>xGhostchantx posted... </cite><quote>I'm happy for you but the NJO (none of those) is not the Vong war and have nothing to do with it outside the fact that it was connected to it by necessity.</quote>But...that's the series the Vong debut in, and then they immediately start dropping moons on Chewbacca and shit. I fail to see how that has "nothing to do with it" tbh.Point being, the Vong are in those books and the Vong are trash in those books. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xGhostchantx 09/25/23 10:12:56 PM #128:	xGhostchantx posted... I'm happy for you but the NJO (none of those) is not the Vong war and have nothing to do with it outside the fact that it was connected to it by necessity. I recommend reading the first few chapters of Red Harvest tho (not Vong) just for the lolz. It is truly horrendously undoubtedly the bottom of the barrel. It's basically Twilight + Zombies + teenager hormone Sith Gobstoppers12 posted... But...that's the series the Vong debut in, and then they immediately start dropping moons on Chewbacca and shit. I fail to see how that has "nothing to do with it" tbh. Point being, the Vong are in those books and the Vong are trash in those books. Nope. The Vong were introduced toward the end, but the NJO came before the Vong were a thing in preparation of the new series, and there's a fair few books in the NJO that are trash anyway so I don't blame you. (Admittedly it has been a very long time since I read this so memory may be a little shaky) --- Tiw - Min scild, min sweord Woden - Se ALLFAEDER he is, naes hwitra manna anra <cite>xGhostchantx posted [p:976307317] in Disney 201... [t:80575220]...</cite> <quote>xGhostchantx posted... </cite><quote>I'm happy for you but the NJO (none of those) is not the Vong war and have nothing to do with it outside the fact that it was connected to it by necessity.</quote>I recommend reading the first few chapters of Red Harvest tho (not Vong) just for the lolz. It is truly horrendously undoubtedly the bottom of the barrel. It's basically Twilight + Zombies + teenager hormone SithGobstoppers12 posted... </cite><quote>But...that's the series the Vong debut in, and then they immediately start dropping moons on Chewbacca and shit. I fail to see how that has "nothing to do with it" tbh.Point being, the Vong are in those books and the Vong are trash in those books.</quote>Nope. The Vong were introduced toward the end, but the NJO came before the Vong were a thing in preparation of the new series, and there's a fair few books in the NJO that are trash anyway so I don't blame you.(Admittedly it has been a very long time since I read this so memory may be a little shaky) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AngelsNAirwav3s 09/25/23 10:16:39 PM #129:	Im a little nervous with what Filoni has planned with the Night Sisters and these beings from the new Galaxy. Lots of rumors ~~that Thrawn is just a red herring and the real threat is the Night Sisters and their witchcraft.~~ --- Hello world! <cite>AngelsNAirwav3s posted [p:976307374] in Disney 201... [t:80575220]...</cite> <quote>Im a little nervous with what Filoni has planned with the Night Sisters and these beings from the new Galaxy. Lots of rumors that Thrawn is just a red herring and the real threat is the Night Sisters and their witchcraft. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gobstoppers12 09/25/23 10:19:11 PM #130:	xGhostchantx posted... Nope. The Vong were introduced toward the end, but the NJO came before the Vong were a thing in preparation of the new series, and there's a fair few books in the NJO that are trash anyway so I don't blame you. The first book in the NJO series is Vector Prime, my dude. I have very vivid memories of hating the Vong because of those first three books. I got them as a box set, numbered #1, #2, and #3. The NJO books, at least the parts I've read, are entirely focused on the Vong. From the Wikipedia page about The New Jedi Order: "*Star Wars: The New Jedi Order* (or *New Jedi Order* or *NJO) is a series of 19 science fiction novels, published from 1999 to 2003, set in the Star Wars* Expanded Universe. The series revolves around the Yuuzhan Vong invasion of the galaxy 2125 years after the events depicted in Return of the Jedi. " --- (He/Him) I write Naruto Fanfiction. But I am definitely not a furry. <cite>Gobstoppers12 posted [p:976307424] in Disney 201... [t:80575220]...</cite> <quote>xGhostchantx posted... </cite><quote>Nope. The Vong were introduced toward the end, but the NJO came before the Vong were a thing in preparation of the new series, and there's a fair few books in the NJO that are trash anyway so I don't blame you.</quote>The first book in the NJO series is Vector Prime, my dude. I have very vivid memories of hating the Vong because of those first three books. I got them as a box set, numbered #1, #2, and #3. The NJO books, at least the parts I've read, are entirely focused on the Vong. From the Wikipedia page about The New Jedi Order:"Star Wars: The New Jedi Order (or New Jedi Order or NJO) is a series of 19 science fiction novels, published from 1999 to 2003, set in the Star Wars Expanded Universe. The series revolves around the Yuuzhan Vong invasion of the galaxy 2125 years after the events depicted in Return of the Jedi. " </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jiek_Fafn 09/25/23 10:21:02 PM #131:	They need to bring over the adventures of Darth Vader's hand into canon! --- I don't believe in belts. There should be no ranking system for toughness. <cite>Jiek_Fafn posted [p:976307456] in Disney 201... [t:80575220]...</cite> <quote>They need to bring over the adventures of Darth Vader's hand into canon! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IShall_Run_Amok 09/25/23 10:34:36 PM #132:	Jiek_Fafn posted... They need to bring over the adventures of Darth Vader's hand into canon! I want to see the one about the whales and Darth Vader's glove. --- "Kill everyone now! Condone first degree murder! Advocate cannibalism! Eat <poop>! Filth is my politics! Filth is my life!" - Babs Johnson <cite>IShall_Run_Amok posted [p:976307677] in Disney 201... [t:80575220]...</cite> <quote>Jiek_Fafn posted... </cite><quote>They need to bring over the adventures of Darth Vader's hand into canon!</quote>I want to see the one about the whales and Darth Vader's glove. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Toonstrack 09/26/23 12:17:17 AM #133:	Holy cow there are 290 books in the EU. Lucas just let them do whatever tf they wanted lol. I can almost understand being upsetting that investment was never actioned upon. But even Lucas didn't plan on using them --- This post didn't exist to you until you read it. You willed it into existence in your psyche by choosing to observe it. Thats the power you have. Use it well. <cite>Toonstrack posted [p:976309085] in Disney 201... [t:80575220]...</cite> <quote>Holy cow there are 290 books in the EU.Lucas just let them do whatever tf they wanted lol.I can almost understand being upsetting that investment was never actioned upon. But even Lucas didn't plan on using them </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gobstoppers12 09/26/23 12:26:33 AM #134:	Toonstrack posted... Holy cow there are 290 books in the EU. And like 265 of them are rubbish. --- (He/Him) I write Naruto Fanfiction. But I am definitely not a furry. <cite>Gobstoppers12 posted [p:976309167] in Disney 201... [t:80575220]...</cite> <quote>Toonstrack posted... </cite><quote>Holy cow there are 290 books in the EU.</quote>And like 265 of them are rubbish. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Necronmon 09/26/23 12:35:01 AM #135:	Still a higher rate of good books then what we got in the Disney era. Anyway...Im a little nervous with what Filoni has planned with the Night Sisters and these beings from the new Galaxy. Lots of rumors that Thrawn is just a red herring and the real threat is the Night Sisters and their witchcraft. Bloody hell the Nightsisters are even more over used at this point and just won't die. Heir to the Empire trilogy, Courtship of Princess Leia, The Truce at Bakura, Hard Merchandise, and (against my own better judgement) a few more NJO books later in the series so I could see how things developed. That's not the god damn NJO Books that's just books in the old timeline if you can't even get it right then just. ( Face desks). I will say that Crucible was a very lackluster way to end the EU timeline but, I only give it slack because of how rushed the book was, and STILL made more sense then Episode nine. And...The Vong sure look like characters from the 90s If that's 90's then this looks Power Rangers 90's in comparison https://www.the-jedi-council.com/uploads/5/4/2/1/54216343/the-high-republic-5_orig.jpg No matter how " Try hard " some thing the Vong are they still sure tried a lot harder then just putting ulgy buckets on heads and acting like even" MORE" crazy radiers then the Mandos already were. <cite>Necronmon posted [p:976309276] in Disney 201... [t:80575220]...</cite> <quote>Still a higher rate of good books then what we got in the Disney era. Anyway...Im a little nervous with what Filoni has planned with the Night Sisters and these beings from the new Galaxy. Lots of rumors that Thrawn is just a red herring and the real threat is the Night Sisters and their witchcraft. Bloody hell the Nightsisters are even more over used at this point and just won't die.<quote>Heir to the Empire trilogy, Courtship of Princess Leia, The Truce at Bakura, Hard Merchandise, and (against my own better judgement) a few more NJO books later in the series so I could see how things developed.</quote>That's not the god damn NJO Books that's just books in the old timeline if you can't even get it right then just. ( Face desks).I will say that Crucible was a very lackluster way to end the EU timeline but, I only give it slack because of how rushed the book was, and STILL made more sense then Episode nine. <quote>And...The Vong sure look like characters from the 90s</quote>If that's 90's then this looks Power Rangers 90's in comparison https://www.the-jedi-council.com/uploads/5/4/2/1/54216343/the-high-republic-5_orig.jpgNo matter how " Try hard " some thing the Vong are they still sure tried a lot harder then just putting ulgy buckets on heads and acting like even" MORE" crazy radiers then the Mandos already were. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ubergeneral3 09/26/23 1:39:29 AM #136:	We don't need any of this EU crap! They never said that. They threw it out because it sucked. Things like Thrawn were will liked and they did the right thing and brought him back. His old stories are still not canon. --- Guillotine/Gulag 2020. You didn't vote Bernie now pay the price. Eat the Rich <cite>Ubergeneral3 posted [p:976309852] in Disney 201... [t:80575220]...</cite> <quote><quote>We don't need any of this EU crap!</quote>They never said that. They threw it out because it sucked. Things like Thrawn were will liked and they did the right thing and brought him back. His old stories are still not canon. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Toonstrack 09/26/23 3:01:01 PM #137:	Necronmon posted... Still a higher rate of good books then what we got in the Disney era. Lol no it ain't. I've heard almost all good things from all the star wars books. Thrawns new series in particular is excellent at least the first two entries. --- This post didn't exist to you until you read it. You willed it into existence in your psyche by choosing to observe it. Thats the power you have. Use it well. <cite>Toonstrack posted [p:976319274] in Disney 201... [t:80575220]...</cite> <quote>Necronmon posted... </cite><quote>Still a higher rate of good books then what we got in the Disney era. </quote>Lol no it ain't. I've heard almost all good things from all the star wars books. Thrawns new series in particular is excellent at least the first two entries. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gobstoppers12 09/26/23 3:09:18 PM #138:	Necronmon posted... That's not the god damn NJO Books that's just books in the old timeline if you can't even get it right then just. ( Face desks). I listed off the names of the books which weren't in the NJO series, then mentioned several books in the NJO series as a grouping. If I didn't explain that clearly enough, I'm sorry, but I have absolutely read several books from the NJO series. I personally own Vector Prime, Dark Tide I: Onslaught, and Dark Tide II: Ruin. I read them all when they were relatively new back in the early 2000s. The books themselves were okay in terms of writing, but the Yuuzhan Vong were horrible, horrible villains. Not in the sense that they're super evil, but in the sense that they suck and are lame. I assure you, my information is accurate. I've been bitching about the Vong since the day I finished the third book in the series. I immediately hated their overpowered biovehicles with portable organic black hole generators which just sucked up every attack made against them. I hated how they were immune to the force "because they're from another galaxy and shouldn't be here", I hated how they were basically just ultra-edgy Star Trek villains with a masochism kink...I hated how they were described, I hated how they spoke, I hated literally every single detail about them. And what made it even worse is that such a terribly conceived, terribly executed, terribly boring species was elected to become the BiGGeSt ThReAt ThE GaLaXy HaS EvER SeEn!!11!1 The EU wasn't great before that, but the Vong basically made it completely intolerable. --- (He/Him) I write Naruto Fanfiction. But I am definitely not a furry. <cite>Gobstoppers12 posted [p:976319464] in Disney 201... [t:80575220]...</cite> <quote>Necronmon posted... </cite><quote>That's not the god damn NJO Books that's just books in the old timeline if you can't even get it right then just. ( Face desks).</quote>I listed off the names of the books which weren't in the NJO series, then mentioned several books in the NJO series as a grouping. If I didn't explain that clearly enough, I'm sorry, but I have absolutely read several books from the NJO series. I personally own Vector Prime, Dark Tide I: Onslaught, and Dark Tide II: Ruin. I read them all when they were relatively new back in the early 2000s. The books themselves were okay in terms of writing, but the Yuuzhan Vong were horrible, horrible villains. Not in the sense that they're super evil, but in the sense that they suck and are lame. I assure you, my information is accurate. I've been bitching about the Vong since the day I finished the third book in the series. I immediately hated their overpowered biovehicles with portable organic black hole generators which just sucked up every attack made against them. I hated how they were immune to the force "because they're from another galaxy and shouldn't be here", I hated how they were basically just ultra-edgy Star Trek villains with a masochism kink...I hated how they were described, I hated how they spoke, I hated literally every single detail about them.And what made it even worse is that such a terribly conceived, terribly executed, terribly boring species was elected to become the BiGGeSt ThReAt ThE GaLaXy HaS EvER SeEn!!11!1The EU wasn't great before that, but the Vong basically made it completely intolerable. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Garabandal 09/26/23 3:24:44 PM #139:	https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/4/9/AAfY4qAAEAgZ.jpg --- Silence is my shield. It crushes. Silence is my cloak. It smothers. Silence is my sword. It cuts, both ways. Silence is the deadliest weapon. <cite>Garabandal posted [p:976319765] in Disney 201... [t:80575220]...</cite> <quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/4/9/AAfY4qAAEAgZ.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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