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Zikten 09/22/23 12:28:25 AM #1:	https://www.reuters.com/science/zambia-find-shows-humans-have-built-with-wood-476000-years-2023-09-20/ I guess the wood is fossilized. But predates any known structures built by a massive amount of time. At the time this was built, we thought our ancestors were still walking around naked and scavenging for food and sleeping on the ground <cite>Zikten posted [p:976230168] in 476k year ... [t:80573684]...</cite> <quote>https://www.reuters.com/science/zambia-find-shows-humans-have-built-with-wood-476000-years-2023-09-20/I guess the wood is fossilized. But predates any known structures built by a massive amount of time. At the time this was built, we thought our ancestors were still walking around naked and scavenging for food and sleeping on the ground</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EthanSilver 09/22/23 12:29:21 AM #2:	Zikten posted... https://www.reuters.com/science/zambia-find-shows-humans-have-built-with-wood-476000-years-2023-09-20/ I guess the wood is fossilized. But predates any known structures built by a massive amount of time. At the time this was built, we thought our ancestors were still walking around naked and scavenging for food and sleeping on the ground Wow... that's pretty amazing. <cite>EthanSilver posted [p:976230185] in 476k year ... [t:80573684]...</cite> <quote>Zikten posted... </cite><quote>https://www.reuters.com/science/zambia-find-shows-humans-have-built-with-wood-476000-years-2023-09-20/I guess the wood is fossilized. But predates any known structures built by a massive amount of time. At the time this was built, we thought our ancestors were still walking around naked and scavenging for food and sleeping on the ground</quote>Wow... that's pretty amazing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
solosnake 09/22/23 12:35:03 AM #3:	They are pretty certain it predates homo sapiens actually. --- "We would have no NBA possibly if they got rid of all the flopping." ~ Dwyane Wade <cite>solosnake posted [p:976230246] in 476k year ... [t:80573684]...</cite> <quote>They are pretty certain it predates homo sapiens actually. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EthanSilver 09/22/23 12:37:36 AM #4:	solosnake posted... They are pretty certain it predates homo sapiens actually. Holy crap... is that like a game changer? Or still in the realm of "ape" or w/e? Although I find this stuff neat, not well versed. <cite>EthanSilver posted [p:976230268] in 476k year ... [t:80573684]...</cite> <quote>solosnake posted... </cite><quote>They are pretty certain it predates homo sapiens actually.</quote>Holy crap... is that like a game changer?Or still in the realm of "ape" or w/e?Although I find this stuff neat, not well versed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Letron_James 09/22/23 12:52:55 AM #5:	Ive always thought that people have already died and been re evolutionized multiple times. Would explain a lot tbh --- Ask me if I would eat da booty. <cite>Letron_James posted [p:976230403] in 476k year ... [t:80573684]...</cite> <quote>Ive always thought that people have already died and been re evolutionized multiple times. Would explain a lot tbh </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Guide 09/22/23 1:16:02 AM #6:	EthanSilver posted... Holy crap... is that like a game changer? Or still in the realm of "ape" or w/e? Although I find this stuff neat, not well versed. It's before the commonly accepted advent of our species, but still in our ancestry. The big deal here is that ancient evidence of woodworking is usually indirect; we don't know just how complex their crafts were. For some deep time context, an article from 2001 talking about 1.5 million year old stone tools having traces of wood on them. So we've been carving up wood in some way for a long time, but the fitted logs are the basis of large structures. It's not certain at all, but the idea that pre-sapiens humans might've had, fuckin', log cabins is crazy. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/early-humans-had-woodwork/ --- evening main 2.4356848e+91 https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU <cite>Guide posted [p:976230598] in 476k year ... [t:80573684]...</cite> <quote>EthanSilver posted... </cite><quote>Holy crap... is that like a game changer?Or still in the realm of "ape" or w/e?Although I find this stuff neat, not well versed.</quote>It's before the commonly accepted advent of our species, but still in our ancestry. The big deal here is that ancient evidence of woodworking is usually indirect; we don't know just how complex their crafts were. For some deep time context, an article from 2001 talking about 1.5 million year old stone tools having traces of wood on them. So we've been carving up wood in some way for a long time, but the fitted logs are the basis of large structures. It's not certain at all, but the idea that pre-sapiens humans might've had, fuckin', log cabins is crazy.https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/early-humans-had-woodwork/ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KitKats 09/22/23 1:16:22 AM #7:	The article also states the oldest known wood artifact is a plank fragment in Israel from 780,000 years ago --- her/she <cite>KitKats posted [p:976230600] in 476k year ... [t:80573684]...</cite> <quote>The article also states the oldest known wood artifact is a plank fragment in Israel from 780,000 years ago </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GuerrillaSoldier 09/22/23 1:16:42 AM #8:	sure until they tell us later that it was dinosaurs that did it bird dinosaurs with man fingers --- Disclaimer: There's a good chance the above post could be sarcasm. Die-hard Oakland A's fan --- Keep the A's in Oakland! <cite>GuerrillaSoldier posted [p:976230604] in 476k year ... [t:80573684]...</cite> <quote>sure until they tell us later that it was dinosaurs that did itbird dinosaurs with man fingers </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 09/22/23 1:19:48 AM #9:	iirc the Australopithecus had crude spears millions of years ago. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:976230634] in 476k year ... [t:80573684]...</cite> <quote>iirc the Australopithecus had crude spears millions of years ago. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HylianFox 09/22/23 1:42:26 AM #10:	Chances are it's a dick It's always a dick --- THIS SPACE INTENTIONALLY LEFT BLANK Do not write in this space. <cite>HylianFox posted [p:976230820] in 476k year ... [t:80573684]...</cite> <quote>Chances are it's a dickIt's always a dick </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BewmHedshot 09/22/23 1:48:58 AM #11:	Cool <cite>BewmHedshot posted [p:976230872] in 476k year ... [t:80573684]...</cite> <quote>Cool</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gritty 09/22/23 8:48:23 AM #12:	history lies to us <cite>Gritty posted [p:976234323] in 476k year ... [t:80573684]...</cite> <quote>history lies to us</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Prismsblade 09/22/23 8:54:48 AM #13:	It's hard to believe how much of our history has been completely lost to time. --- 3DS FC:3368-5403-9633 Name: Kaizer PSN: Blackkaizer <cite>Prismsblade posted [p:976234399] in 476k year ... [t:80573684]...</cite> <quote>It's hard to believe how much of our history has been completely lost to time. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Priere 09/22/23 8:59:28 AM #14:	https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/0/2/AAFOjXAAE3QW.jpg Wow. What a dump. --- https://imgur.com/iQep35u https://i.imgur.com/PmX8smn.gif https://i.imgur.com/mwTy0iF.gif https://i.imgur.com/FCER80e.gif <cite>Priere posted [p:976234461] in 476k year ... [t:80573684]...</cite> <quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/0/2/AAFOjXAAE3QW.jpg Wow. What a dump. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IShall_Run_Amok 09/22/23 8:59:32 AM #15:	It was clearly aliens. Non-human apes could never --- "Kill everyone now! Condone first degree murder! Advocate cannibalism! Eat <poop>! Filth is my politics! Filth is my life!" - Babs Johnson <cite>IShall_Run_Amok posted [p:976234463] in 476k year ... [t:80573684]...</cite> <quote>It was clearly aliens. Non-human apes could never </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ANort175 09/22/23 9:00:56 AM #16:	HylianFox posted... Chances are it's a dick It's always a dick The other kind of wood --- Are we the baddies? <cite>ANort175 posted [p:976234477] in 476k year ... [t:80573684]...</cite> <quote>HylianFox posted... </cite><quote>Chances are it's a dickIt's always a dick</quote>The other kind of wood </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Enderknight17 09/22/23 9:06:30 AM #17:	Zikten posted... https://www.reuters.com/science/zambia-find-shows-humans-have-built-with-wood-476000-years-2023-09-20/ I guess the wood is fossilized. But predates any known structures built by a massive amount of time. At the time this was built, we thought our ancestors were still walking around naked and scavenging for food and sleeping on the ground I didn't see anything in the article about it being fossilized. But an older gentleman I used to work with who knew a lot about antiques said water was a good preserver depending on the material. He told me that when I showed him a knife I'd found while fishing along the banks of a local river. It was a coca cola knife that he estimated to be from the 30s. The river had recently flooded and I guess this was uncovered on the bank when it receded. I still have it somewhere... --- RIP BigAirDay aka Bill. Not changing this signature until the Carolina Panthers win the Super Bowl. Signature started 10/30/11 <cite>Enderknight17 posted [p:976234541] in 476k year ... [t:80573684]...</cite> <quote>Zikten posted... </cite><quote>https://www.reuters.com/science/zambia-find-shows-humans-have-built-with-wood-476000-years-2023-09-20/I guess the wood is fossilized. But predates any known structures built by a massive amount of time. At the time this was built, we thought our ancestors were still walking around naked and scavenging for food and sleeping on the ground</quote>I didn't see anything in the article about it being fossilized. But an older gentleman I used to work with who knew a lot about antiques said water was a good preserver depending on the material. He told me that when I showed him a knife I'd found while fishing along the banks of a local river. It was a coca cola knife that he estimated to be from the 30s. The river had recently flooded and I guess this was uncovered on the bank when it receded. I still have it somewhere... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GranTurismo 09/22/23 9:09:41 AM #18:	Zikten posted... https://www.reuters.com/science/zambia-find-shows-humans-have-built-with-wood-476000-years-2023-09-20/ I guess the wood is fossilized. But predates any known structures built by a massive amount of time. At the time this was built, we thought our ancestors were still walking around naked and scavenging for food and sleeping on the ground what would they have been though? Not cro magnon right? it was before <cite>GranTurismo posted [p:976234588] in 476k year ... [t:80573684]...</cite> <quote>Zikten posted... </cite><quote>https://www.reuters.com/science/zambia-find-shows-humans-have-built-with-wood-476000-years-2023-09-20/I guess the wood is fossilized. But predates any known structures built by a massive amount of time. At the time this was built, we thought our ancestors were still walking around naked and scavenging for food and sleeping on the ground</quote>what would they have been though? Not cro magnon right? it was before</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Alteres 09/22/23 9:09:49 AM #19:	Low oxygen content water can be. --- ........the ghost in the machine... IGN: Fox, FC: 5344-2646-0982 <cite>Alteres posted [p:976234590] in 476k year ... [t:80573684]...</cite> <quote>Low oxygen content water can be. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Alteres 09/22/23 9:11:10 AM #20:	Last I saw was oldest modern human at ~600k years ago. Articles like this pop up every once and awhile, and are always interesting. --- ........the ghost in the machine... IGN: Fox, FC: 5344-2646-0982 <cite>Alteres posted [p:976234608] in 476k year ... [t:80573684]...</cite> <quote>Last I saw was oldest modern human at ~600k years ago.Articles like this pop up every once and awhile, and are always interesting. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 09/22/23 9:11:38 AM #21:	GranTurismo posted... what would they have been though? Not cro magnon right? it was before I don't know. They were probably hairy though <cite>Zikten posted [p:976234615] in 476k year ... [t:80573684]...</cite> <quote>GranTurismo posted... </cite><quote>what would they have been though? Not cro magnon right? it was before</quote>I don't know. They were probably hairy though</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GranTurismo 09/22/23 9:12:07 AM #22:	Alteres posted... Last I saw was oldest modern human at ~600k years ago. Articles like this pop up every once and awhile, and are always interesting. what were hominids called before that...etc...? <cite>GranTurismo posted [p:976234623] in 476k year ... [t:80573684]...</cite> <quote>Alteres posted... </cite><quote>Last I saw was oldest modern human at ~600k years ago.Articles like this pop up every once and awhile, and are always interesting.</quote>what were hominids called before that...etc...?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ajiri 09/22/23 9:13:02 AM #23:	the science is so wrong on this one, so absurd these claims lmao --- WIRED https://www.youtube.com/user/wired <cite>Ajiri posted [p:976234641] in 476k year ... [t:80573684]...</cite> <quote>the science is so wrong on this one, so absurd these claims lmao </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KazGT6 09/22/23 9:14:14 AM #24:	Zikten posted... I don't know. They were probably hairy though yeah i have read that before. Very similar to modern chimps and gorillas maybe even hairier <cite>KazGT6 posted [p:976234656] in 476k year ... [t:80573684]...</cite> <quote>Zikten posted... </cite><quote>I don't know. They were probably hairy though</quote>yeah i have read that before. Very similar to modern chimps and gorillas maybe even hairier</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Torgo 09/22/23 9:16:09 AM #25:	Ajiri posted... the science is so wrong on this one, so absurd these claims lmao ...with the Earth being roughly 6,500 years old an all. ...and flat and at the center of the universe. --- Be careful: I was moderated for telling people not to commit illegal acts of assault and murder. It's not worth trying to be the voice of reason sometimes. <cite>Torgo posted [p:976234688] in 476k year ... [t:80573684]...</cite> <quote>Ajiri posted... </cite><quote>the science is so wrong on this one, so absurd these claims lmao</quote>...with the Earth being roughly 6,500 years old an all....and flat and at the center of the universe. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
brestugo 09/22/23 9:35:11 AM #26:	Prismsblade posted... It's hard to believe how much of our history has been completely lost to time. IIRC, there's only about 8-10000 years of recorded history. --- Putin delenda est <cite>brestugo posted [p:976234965] in 476k year ... [t:80573684]...</cite> <quote>Prismsblade posted... </cite><quote>It's hard to believe how much of our history has been completely lost to time.</quote>IIRC, there's only about 8-10000 years of recorded history. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Compsognathus 09/22/23 9:42:35 AM #27:	Flintstones confirmed canon. --- 1 line break(s), 160 characters allowed <cite>Compsognathus posted [p:976235070] in 476k year ... [t:80573684]...</cite> <quote>Flintstones confirmed canon. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
brestugo 09/22/23 9:45:58 AM #28:	Ajiri posted... the science is so wrong on this one, so absurd these claims lmao I'm sure you'll inflict a YouTuber 'explaining it all' on everyone shortly. --- Putin delenda est <cite>brestugo posted [p:976235124] in 476k year ... [t:80573684]...</cite> <quote>Ajiri posted... </cite><quote>the science is so wrong on this one, so absurd these claims lmao</quote>I'm sure you'll inflict a YouTuber 'explaining it all' on everyone shortly. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
brestugo 09/22/23 12:52:38 PM #29:	"Not only did the working of trees require considerable skill, the right tools and planning, the effort involved suggests that the makers were staying in the location for extended periods whereas we have always had a model of Stone Age people as nomadic," Barham added. The rarity of wood preservation at early archaeological sites - it is perishable over time - means scientists have little understanding of how early humans used it. Can't wait until NatGeo or the BBC does a documentary on this. --- Putin delenda est <cite>brestugo posted [p:976238314] in 476k year ... [t:80573684]...</cite> <quote><quote>"Not only did the working of trees require considerable skill, the right tools and planning, the effort involved suggests that the makers were staying in the location for extended periods whereas we have always had a model of Stone Age people as nomadic," Barham added.The rarity of wood preservation at early archaeological sites - it is perishable over time - means scientists have little understanding of how early humans used it.</quote>Can't wait until NatGeo or the BBC does a documentary on this. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Guide 09/22/23 3:17:15 PM #30:	Ajiri posted... the science is so wrong on this one, so absurd these claims lmao Why do you think so? --- evening main 2.4356848e+91 https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU <cite>Guide posted [p:976240854] in 476k year ... [t:80573684]...</cite> <quote>Ajiri posted... </cite><quote>the science is so wrong on this one, so absurd these claims lmao</quote>Why do you think so? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ajiri 09/22/23 3:23:18 PM #31:	Guide posted... Why do you think so? I haven't read anywhere anything credible on this story, nothing in our current knowledge of human history did early humans have structures dating 476,000 years ago. Either they dated it improperly are they are incredibly misguided on what this finding is. --- WIRED https://www.youtube.com/user/wired <cite>Ajiri posted [p:976240965] in 476k year ... [t:80573684]...</cite> <quote>Guide posted... </cite><quote>Why do you think so?</quote>I haven't read anywhere anything credible on this story, nothing in our current knowledge of human history did early humans have structures dating 476,000 years ago. Either they dated it improperly are they are incredibly misguided on what this finding is. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kuuko 09/22/23 3:27:25 PM #32:	Ajiri posted... I haven't read anywhere anything credible on this story, nothing in our current knowledge of human history did early humans have structures dating 476,000 years ago. Either they dated it improperly are they are incredibly misguided on what this finding is. That's sort of why it's news. Because it advances our current knowledge. It's also likely not homo sapiens but another species of the genus homo. --- http://i.imgur.com/dzGMd.png <cite>Kuuko posted [p:976241031] in 476k year ... [t:80573684]...</cite> <quote>Ajiri posted... </cite><quote>I haven't read anywhere anything credible on this story, nothing in our current knowledge of human history did early humans have structures dating 476,000 years ago. Either they dated it improperly are they are incredibly misguided on what this finding is.</quote>That's sort of why it's news. Because it advances our current knowledge. It's also likely not homo sapiens but another species of the genus homo. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Guide 09/22/23 4:01:17 PM #33:	Ajiri posted... nothing in our current knowledge of human history did early humans have structures dating 476,000 years ago That's why this is news. We knew human ancestors were doing something with wood, up to 1.5 million years ago, but only via traces of tree matter on stone tools. --- evening main 2.4356848e+91 https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU <cite>Guide posted [p:976241700] in 476k year ... [t:80573684]...</cite> <quote>Ajiri posted... </cite><quote>nothing in our current knowledge of human history did early humans have structures dating 476,000 years ago</quote>That's why this is news. We knew human ancestors were doing something with wood, up to 1.5 million years ago, but only via traces of tree matter on stone tools. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thronedfire2 09/22/23 4:03:22 PM #34:	Ajiri posted... I haven't read anywhere anything credible on this story, nothing in our current knowledge of human history did early humans have structures dating 476,000 years ago. Either they dated it improperly are they are incredibly misguided on what this finding is. ...there are a lot of things we didn't know about human history until we discovered them. that's kinda how it works. --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... <cite>thronedfire2 posted [p:976241740] in 476k year ... [t:80573684]...</cite> <quote>Ajiri posted... </cite><quote>I haven't read anywhere anything credible on this story, nothing in our current knowledge of human history did early humans have structures dating 476,000 years ago. Either they dated it improperly are they are incredibly misguided on what this finding is.</quote>...there are a lot of things we didn't know about human history until we discovered them. that's kinda how it works. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gray_Areas 09/22/23 4:23:28 PM #35:	Kuuko posted... That's sort of why it's news. Because it advances our current knowledge. It's also likely not homo sapiens but another species of the genus homo. The article says they suspect the artifacts were from Homo heidelbergensis, generally regarded as one of the last common ancestors between modern humans and Neanderthals. <cite>Gray_Areas posted [p:976242138] in 476k year ... [t:80573684]...</cite> <quote>Kuuko posted... </cite><quote>That's sort of why it's news. Because it advances our current knowledge. It's also likely not homo sapiens but another species of the genus homo.</quote>The article says they suspect the artifacts were from Homo heidelbergensis, generally regarded as one of the last common ancestors between modern humans and Neanderthals.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IShall_Run_Amok 09/22/23 4:29:48 PM #36:	Ajiri posted... I haven't read anywhere anything credible on this story, nothing in our current knowledge of human history did early humans have structures dating 476,000 years ago. Either they dated it improperly are they are incredibly misguided on what this finding is. Lol --- "Kill everyone now! Condone first degree murder! Advocate cannibalism! Eat <poop>! Filth is my politics! Filth is my life!" - Babs Johnson <cite>IShall_Run_Amok posted [p:976242237] in 476k year ... [t:80573684]...</cite> <quote>Ajiri posted... </cite><quote>I haven't read anywhere anything credible on this story, nothing in our current knowledge of human history did early humans have structures dating 476,000 years ago. Either they dated it improperly are they are incredibly misguided on what this finding is.</quote>Lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paragon21XX 09/22/23 4:31:50 PM #37:	A time traveler did it. --- Politicians are the weeds of the galaxy. <cite>Paragon21XX posted [p:976242271] in 476k year ... [t:80573684]...</cite> <quote>A time traveler did it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gray_Areas 09/22/23 4:38:23 PM #38:	Ajiri posted... I haven't read anywhere anything credible on this story, nothing in our current knowledge of human history did early humans have structures dating 476,000 years ago. Either they dated it improperly are they are incredibly misguided on what this finding is. Reuters literally linked to the published article in Nature, a well-known scientific journal, in their story: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-023-06557-9 <cite>Gray_Areas posted [p:976242408] in 476k year ... [t:80573684]...</cite> <quote>Ajiri posted... </cite><quote>I haven't read anywhere anything credible on this story, nothing in our current knowledge of human history did early humans have structures dating 476,000 years ago. Either they dated it improperly are they are incredibly misguided on what this finding is.</quote>Reuters literally linked to the published article in Nature, a well-known scientific journal, in their story:https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-023-06557-9</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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