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splodeymissile posted...

I was an infant in the 90s, so I grew up in this changing world and, to the shock of literally no one except those too bitter to leave the house, pubs, nightclubs

This isn't the talking point you think it is. Many people suffer from alcoholism or go through the situation of being addicted to alcohol and getting diseases or sick. And in general, don't want to be around that environment

Nightclubs in general can be fun for some. But a nightmare for others due to the large and loud environment.

splodeymissile posted...

I don't think you're choosing, though. I think the rest of the world finds you so unpleasant that they're making the choice for you

The big problem with your entire logic is that your suggestion for going "out of the house" is essentially being at a bar or nightclub. It's why a lot of the suggestions and things you're saying don't really make a lot of sense, and aren't really suitable advice.

Alcoholism is irrelevant. As are people who personally dislike clubs. These spaces exist and hookups, relationships and everything in between continue to occur or start inside them. For many, the apps are merely a bonus

LiberalAgenda8 posted...

The big problem with your entire logic is that your suggestion for going "out of the house" is essentially being at a bar or nightclub. It's why a lot of the suggestions and things you're saying don't really make a lot of sense, and aren't really suitable advice.

It's my hobby, so, I speak from experience. No one said you have to be drunk to socialise. It's difficult to socialise without first leaving the building, though.

splodeymissile posted...

Alcoholism is irrelevant. As are people who personally dislike clubs. These spaces exist and hookups, relationships and everything in between continue to occur or start inside them. For many, the apps are merely a bonus

Alcoholism is absolutely relevant where you're in an environment thats full of alcohol. Your basically promoting people get drunk all while claiming that apps dont work

Except the analogy does work because you haven't been in a relationship. The person who has been married and divorced managed to have a relationship. Heck, they managed to overcome to divorce and have another.

I've met people and been with them for months, so I don't know how this is relevant. Furthermore, there are people who have been married, divorced and stay divorced due to certain situations.

You missed the analogy which is unsurprising. The person who has lost every fight he's ever been in while trying to educate people who have been in and won fights has no place teaching or saying anything.

It's kinda clear you have no idea about fighting or combat sports. Hence the bad analogy. I'll explain

When you do get into enough fights or combat situation, you learn about distance. Spacing. Guarding. How to avoid certain shots. You know how to use your range/jab. How to properly avoid being taken down. How to defend yourself or choke people out. You also learn from experience how being hit is . If a person is losing constantly, then this doesn't mean much because fighting is based on a variety of things. Which include
A. The weight class
B. where the fight takes place
C. What specifically happens or how long the fight is.

A person who has a losing streak in boxing for example, will still be more skilled than the average person. A person who has gotten into a bunch of street fights and lost will still have more knowledge than someone who has never been in one.

You also missed the most important thing: Someone who has lost knows what it feels like to lose and get their pride shaken down. Which, in turn leaves them to improve themself and not make the same mistakes that led to them losing in the 1st place

LiberalAgenda8 posted...

Alcoholism is absolutely relevant where you're in an environment thats full of alcohol. Your basically promoting people get drunk all while claiming that apps dont work

I don't give the slightest fuck if someone is somehow inspired to start drinking because of my words. Point is that a great swell of people hit the town on Saturday night and a great swell of people are subsequently shagging through to Sunday morning. And apps can work, but they're simply not worth the effort when irl is obviously better

Im not following your logic on how dating apps aren't worth the effort. Dating apps cut the entire middle man out of having to be in an event to meet people and essentially allow you to

A. Have the best pics possible(your selling yourself here with good pics)
B. Have a good indepth bio which tells the other person what youre into/not into, what you're looking for
C.Allow you to message as much people as possible, and be able to set up multiple dates if one flakes or isn't interested
D. Allow you to make your intentions known from the start(hook up, casual relationship, long term)

LiberalAgenda8 posted...

Im not following your logic on how dating apps aren't worth the effort. Dating apps cut the entire middle man out of having to be in an event to meet people and essentially allow you to

It's not a middle man. It's the entire point of the exercise.

LiberalAgenda8 posted...

A. Have the best pics possible(your selling yourself here with good pics)

Or just groom yourself and go in person

LiberalAgenda8 posted...

B. Have a good indepth bio which tells the other person what youre into/not into, what you're looking for

It's called talking

LiberalAgenda8 posted...

C.Allow you to message as much people as possible, and be able to set up multiple dates if one flakes or isn't interested

There's likely to be at least a few people at a given event

LiberalAgenda8 posted...

D. Allow you to make your intentions known from the start(hook up, casual relationship, long term)

It's called talking

Reading is my highest skill. Unfortunately I'm still very stupid so many other people are better at it.

This dude got picked apart by a shoal of normal people piranhas

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Those chances increasing doesn't mean that dating apps aren't suddenly "just a supplement". It's just as important.

Lol, wrong choice. My husband practices MMA, HEMA, and JSA, and I've learned plenty under him. I've also been to HEMA competitions and have participated in numerous spars. I know for sure I'm far more knowledgeable than you on the subject. Remember, you've admitted to having no friends and not really having any hobbies. So let's not pretend you know anything about combat sports.

You don't "train" mma. You train multiple martial arts. I have knowledge about combat sports because I've actually done them myself(boxing, judo, Brazilian jiujitsu). Its pointless to even say "you train mma" when the better thing is to specify what martial arts you consistently practice.

A person with a record of always losing, has never won a fight, and is talking to experienced fighters who HAVE won fights has no place trying to teach someone something they are already more experienced at, they already do, and have had success doing.

This analogy doesn't work. Because of a few things.
A. The person with a record of always losing still has experience from fighting
B. It doesn't take into account how long the fight lasted
C. It doesn't take into account the weight classes
D.A Street fight is different from a professional fight. There are no rules in street fights.

Everyone , professional or not, always has room to improve. And is someone gives you legit advice in fighting, it's always good to take it into account and not disregard it based on pride or ingorance

That's the point I'm making. A guy who has never been in a relationship has no place telling others advice regarding relationships. Especially people who are in active relationships and have had multiple relationships in the past. What you're not getting here? You don't have anything to teach because you don't know anything to pass on.

The analogy you listed doesn't make much sense because
A. Fighting has multiple variables to it.
B. Im not a teacher

LiberalAgenda8 posted...

I've met people and been with them for months

Are you literally an alien lifeform?

I was leaning more towards a stalker

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Huh? The intention is that someone who is losing will still have experience.

it also implies they have been to a boxing gym and have had some training. Not the equivalent of you, who in this analogy, has never been to a gym, has never been to an instructor, and has been punched out on the street in every encounter.

Street fights are different from professional fights, so again your analogy makes no sense. In professional fights or arts: There are certain rules at play. Which include not punching below the belt. Not hitting in the back of the head. No kicking, and more. In UFC and other organizations: Certain moves or intentions are absolutely banned.

A street fight has no rules and anything goes. A person can be "winning" a fight but get slammed on his ass by a 200lbs monster. Or his friends can jump in. Or he can get stabbed. Or he can get tired.

While you're talking to someone who actively competes and wins as if you somehow know as much or more than they do.

Youre comparing street fighting to fighting in a boxing match

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You literally made the claim that it's not worth the effort.

You keep saying this but you're just parroting basic advice others have told you.

How?

You still don't know anything and you're unqualified to provide an opinion. You also can't read, apparently. Women find that an unattractive quality too.

Dating apps are a viable way to meet people and pretty much the standard in the current era of social media.

splodeymissile posted...

I was leaning more towards a stalker

Is being a stalker or not a reasonable dating standard or is that too offensive to incels?

Shadow_Don posted...

Is being a stalker or not a reasonable dating standard or is that too offensive to incels?

I mean, it gets them out of the house for once, so, it can't be all bad

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What? This makes no sense. You do multiple combat sports. And someone who currently isn't partaking in a hobby doesn't mean that they have never done one in the past. Your logic is the equivalent to saying that because they currently dont weight lift, that they have 0 experience in weight lifting.

I don't believe you. Regardless, this is a deflection. If you have some experience then surely you understand the silliness of someone who's lost every fight trying to teach someone who actively competes and has won fights

The person whose lost every single fight will know about what escalates a fight, will be able to take more hits, will know about avoiding certain actions, and how to maximize damage and what mistakes they can avoid to have them lesser the chance of losing a fight. They also know that street fights have no rules and will do whatever it takes to win.

Getting into a bunch of fights increases your ability to take a hit, prepare for it, and be able to adapt to certain situations.

Fighting is also based on a multi variety of things. Which includes weight, location, stamina, fitness and spacing. A fat person who fights a skinny person in an allyway is going to have a much better chance of being them compared to an open field.

You're analogy doesn't take into account that fights have multiple things to them

. By the way "Practicing MMA" is merely short hand, saying each style you practice in silly. I participated in a thread where I went really in depth regarding MMA, the styles I practice, as well as HEMA. That's not this thread though.

It's perfectly acceptable to say that someones primary arts are muay thai and judo or jiujitsu. MMA is a broad spectrum and encompasses a lot of stuff

Irrelevant. He's still a person who's trying to provide advice to people who win.

The person whose always lost will still have more experience than someone who has never fought.

Also irrelevant. He still is trying to provide advice to people who win.

Someone who has gotten into a bunch of fights has viable advice due to experience.

I'm going to be skeptical if the advice sounds ridiculous (like yours) and not matching up to my experience and then to top it off the person has never won a fight in their life. I'm going to believe the person has nothing to teach and is a fraud at worst or mistaken in his abilities at best.

But you switched from street fighting, to professional fights. And then compared them. When both street fights and professional bouts are completely different from each other. Professional fights have rules and weight classes. Street Fights dont

splodeymissile posted...

I don't give the slightest fuck if someone is somehow inspired to start drinking because of my words.

You used a point that people should be social, and used going to a bar as an example. When people deal with sobriety in different ways and may not want to be in an environment that tempts them to drink alcohol. Which is a pretty bad irresponsibility on your part.

splodeymissile posted...

It's not a middle man. It's the entire point of the exercise.

Or just groom yourself and go in person

It's called talking

There's likely to be at least a few people at a given event

It's called talking

You outright said that online dating is only a supplement, not a main option. But failed to support your points with details. saying "its called talking" is outright vague when going up to random people and striking conversation isn't any guaranteed way of anything.

While with online, you can have a conversation, set up a date, and meet up within a few days or week.

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? Your fighting analogy doesn't make any sense in the first place because street fighting is dependent on a whole bunch of factors(weight, location, height, desire) . A person who has lost a bunch of street can learn from his mistakes will learn about form, how to properly place his shots, an ideal location to fight, be able to take hits, know what it's like to lose, and be able to take more hits due to experience from being hit

He has nothing to teach a person who currently fights and wins when he has never won a fight in his life. Stop pretending I am talking about people who have never been in one. My analogy already referenced the speakers to people who fight and win. We have "won" the dating game. You, who has never won the dating game, is crapping on advice of people who have. You know nothing. You have no knowledge here.

Not winning a fight isn't really a talking point. You'd have to prove
A. The person is actively teaching professionals who only win
B. Prove that the person has 0 experience

Losing a bunch of fights isn't "inexperience". Because fights have multiple things that factor them into play. And you're analogy doesn't take into account how close the fights were, and what the weight classes were

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How?

So why do you keep pretending my analogy involved people with no experience?

Your analogy makes no sense because if it were a proper comparison, then the person isn't pretending to be some teacher in the first place.

That said, the person who always loses can give advice. Because fighting gives you experience, even in loss. And being in fights gives you the knowledge of what works(spacing, distance, form, how to effectively use your power)

As I said, women like people who can read. You can't.

Learn to read buddy. Check the bold.

Fighting has many different aspects to it. Stand up, ground game. Stamina, Desire/Drive. height, weight. Your analogy isn't making sense because you're comparing someone whose lost in street fights, to professional boxers. And then trying to make a blanket statement by saying that the person who loses has no recourse.

Everyone having a good Friday night?

I took a couple hour break to watch Vertigo with my fiance. Never seen it and it was much more psychologically fucked up than I expected and I loved it for that.

Okay, I am gonna check out again and spend time with her.

bsp77 posted...

@dioxxys

Maybe you need some help on your messaging? First, make sure to ask a question at the end of every single message to keep them responding. Also, messaging too long can be an issue. Just 5 or so messages each and ask them out. I would just say something like: "I have been enjoying getting to know you, and would like to keep the conversation going in person. How about we meet for happy hour after work sometime next week? I am open Monday, Tuesday and Thursday." Sounds pretty casual and also is specific but not too specific so they can't just so "no" to a specific time or place. Iron out the details after they say yes. I never got a "no" from this. I reached that point about 25 times.

Also, I have seen your pics, and you are good looking,

I appreciate the advice. Read it over a few times to internalize it just in case I ever need it someday. But I am currently in a long distance relationship and I really like her so not searching right now. My experience was just based off before hand.

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Appeal to popularity fallacy

But he is. You want to crap on our advice. Then say you have the answers. You who can't get a date vs us in successful healthy relationships. You are playing teacher despite lacking the credentials to be one.

Dating is completely and utterly different from fighting.

Not to people who win.

The people who lose know what it's like to be defeated and what works/doesn't work for next time.

It also depends on the competition and weight classes. A person who is 180lbs can lose to people in his weightclass. While someone can have more wins as a 135lbs against another person.

There are multiple things to a fight

You're not going to want to take advice with someone who has never won a fight if you're a successful fighter. Full stop. Especially when that person is making ridiculous claims that run counter to your experience.

I would take advice from someone who has never been in a fight, if they had decent/good advice. As your analogy is based on the idea that someone can't be a proper critique if they aren't good. Which is inherently wrong.

Look at WadeConcept/Wade Plemmons for example. He has minimal experience boxing himself, yet he's one of the best analysts when it comes to fighting and has broken down techniques from viddal riley(professional boxer), tommy fury, tyson fury, and more. Which includes their flaws, techniques, and how certain fights are won.

Even in other industries, people can properly critique animation, films, music, gaming all without being professional animators, film makers, or gaming developers.

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Wade Plemons doesn't have anywhere near the boxing experience of KSI, Logan Paul, Tommy Fury, Jake Paul, Tyson Fury, or more. He's never claimed he's a amateur's, professional boxer, or avid street fighter. Yet he can accurately talk about weaknesses of fighters, fighter strengths, proper techniques they employ what led to their downfall, and more in comprehensive breakdowns . If wade concept lost a bunch of fights, would that make his opinion any less valid?

No, because he understands the fight game, and you dont need to be physically specialized in something to know about fighting or to critique or give proper advice. You're moving the goal post because your attributing loss to inexperience(wrong) and failing to take into account that you can be knowledgeable on a subject you are not physically skilled in.

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Wade plemons isn't a boxer. But he's knowledgeable on the subject.

A film critic isn't a film maker, but they can know about what makes a movie good(story, how it's presented, environment, music, etc).

If a youtube content creator posts a video, and someone posts a long critique about it's flaws, does that make the persons complaints any less valid if the person isn't an uploader?

You're trying to compare it to dating, but your entire analogy and logic doesn't work. A person doesn't need to be a boxer to give advice. Hell, even a random person doesn't need to be experienced in a relationship to know that someone verbally insulting someone else isn't grounds for a healthy relationship.

LiberalAgenda8 posted...

You used a point that people should be social, and used going to a bar as an example. When people deal with sobriety in different ways and may not want to be in an environment that tempts them to drink alcohol. Which is a pretty bad irresponsibility on your part.

"An" example. Not the only example. Youve got a weird obsession with alcoholism. Don't give a shit about my "irresponsibility", either.
LiberalAgenda8 posted...

You outright said that online dating is only a supplement, not a main option. But failed to support your points with details. saying "its called talking" is outright vague when going up to random people and striking conversation isn't any guaranteed way of anything.

While with online, you can have a conversation, set up a date, and meet up within a few days or week.

Online isn't guaranteed, either. That's why you keep your options open. In person tends to work better, so much so that many don't need apps at all.

And if you think talking about intentions in a bar or similar is vague, then you're only confirming that you have no understanding of healthy, mature communication whatsoever. Seriously, the outside isn't that scary. See daylight at least once more before you die.

LiberalAgenda8 posted...

A film critic isn't a film maker, but they can know about what makes a movie good(story, how it's presented, environment, music, etc).

Films are made for consumption by non-filmmakers. Dating and relationships aren't made for voyeurism by people who can't get a date. The comparison makes no sense.

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Wade concept has no known amateur record, or professional boxing experience. With your logic, he's not suitable to give advice since he's never fought someone in a professional bout.

Yet he is one of the most knowledgable people in the scene. Is his opinion less valid compared to fighters who have been on the main stage and fought professionally?

Absolutely not.

bsp77 posted...

Films are made for consumption by non-filmmakers. Dating and relationships aren't made for voyeurism by people who can't get a date. The comparison makes no sense.

Films are made for entertainment and money. Films are subject to critism

Dating and relationships are also subject to criticism. If someone critisized a relationship where the guy is constantly cheating, does that make their viewpoint any less valid because they aren't experienced?

If a relationship turns into a situation where it's toxic and people give their advice on reddit to leave the person, does that make their opinion less valid because said person hasn't been in a relationship for a few years?

No. Everything is subject to critisms and input.

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You used an example of someone always losing and said that that person shouldn't give advice for fighting

But then said it's okay to listen to wade. Even though he has no amateur or fighting experience

Losing fights has no bearing on someones ability to give advice or teach. So with your same logic: If wadeconcept kept losing fights, he's not allowed to give advice...because he's not a professional

You're using the "you need to win fights to give advice" analogy, but then fail to take into account you don't need to win fights to give advice

LiberalAgenda8 posted...

Films are made for entertainment and money. Films are subject to critism

Dating and relationships are also subject to criticism. If someone critisized a relationship where the guy is constantly cheating, does that make their viewpoint any less valid because they aren't experienced?

If a relationship turns into a situation where it's toxic and people give their advice on reddit to leave the person, does that make their opinion less valid because said person hasn't been in a relationship for a few years?

No. Everything is subject to critisms and input.

Once again, if you know so much, tell us about your experiences and your current situation?

Not sure why I am messaging. You could never convince me that everything I have done to make me successful with dating and life in general was wrong. I can back up my beliefs; you can't and likely never will be able to.

Why is this LiberalAgenda guy talking like an AI? They're very robotic...

bsp77 posted...

Everyone having a good Friday night?

I took a couple hour break to watch Vertigo with my fiance. Never seen it and it was much more psychologically fucked up than I expected and I loved it for that.

Okay, I am gonna check out again and spend time with her.

I'm almost at 2,000 hours in Fire Emblem Three Houses. Was gonna spend time with my right hand but I am unwell and lack the energy. So my right hand will spend time with her boyfriend instead.