Current Events > Would you date a Harry Potter Adult? Like 'still waiting for their letter'

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imo, there's room for intense special interests, but being a Harry Potter/Star Wars/Disney Adult is kind of a turnoff and I don't think I would date someone whose life is defined by their undying fandom for a media property they've been obsessed with since they were five years old. Like there's a point where I don't think I could have a productive relationship with someone who runs that hot for something like Harry Potter.

That's not to say I'm an attractive kettle of fish myself, it's just a statement of preference.

Unless they are British, I hope they don't think they would get into Hogwarts. Hogwarts is only for the UK. Every nation has its own seperate school

So if I met a woman in America waiting for a Hogwarts letter, I'd think she's an idiot

Can they have an appreciation for things outside of it? Most people I've dated had some sort of strong focus on some hobby, but they had culture, as in they had appreciation for topics outside of their main interest.

Zikten posted...

Every nation has its own seperate school

Apparently there are only 11 schools that are pernenant. America has a school that I can't be fucked to look the name of up.

While being a Disney adult is annoying, I consider being a Swiftie to be a major red flag.

Zikten posted...

Unless they are British, I hope they don't think they would get into Hogwarts. Hogwarts is only for the UK. Every nation has its own seperate school

So if I met a woman in America waiting for a Hogwarts letter, I'd think she's an idiot

I don't know. I see plenty of Americans walking around with graduation robes at Universal Studios.

Guide posted...

Can they have an appreciation for things outside of it? Most people I've dated had some sort of strong focus on some hobby, but they had culture, as in they had appreciation for topics outside of their main interest.

For the purposes of this poll, they do have other interests like food and travel, but they like to exclaim how much they like something by comparing it to how much they love Harry Potter. They compare a good dinner to a Hogwarts feast, they praise a local IPA bar by saying it's just like the pub in Hogsmeade or whatever, they say they like your glasses by saying you look like a sexy grown up Harry.

They're not totally single-minded about it, but depending on how much they enjoy things, the topic inevitably seems to return to Harry Potter.

MrMallard posted...

They're not totally single-minded about it

Sure sounds like they are

FortuneCookie posted...

I don't know. I see plenty of Americans walking around with graduation robes at Universal Studios.

Universal Studios should make up Houses for the American school

I like the books but no, I don't think I could be with someone who was THAT into HP.

Especially nowadays, because they'd probably be buying the merch all the time and thus putting more $$$ into that transphobe's wallet.

Zikten posted...

Universal Studios should make up Houses for the American school

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Zikten posted...

Universal Studios should make up Houses for the American school

They don't have to, they already made those up for Fantastic Beasts.

MrMallard posted...

Glockenflue

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xA-ayM5I4Jw

MrMallard posted...

For the purposes of this poll, they do have other interests like food and travel, but they like to exclaim how much they like something by comparing it to how much they love Harry Potter. They compare a good dinner to a Hogwarts feast, they praise a local IPA bar by saying it's just like the pub in Hogsmeade or whatever, they say they like your glasses by saying you look like a sexy grown up Harry.

They're not totally single-minded about it, but depending on how much they enjoy things, the topic inevitably seems to return to Harry Potter.

That would get grating after a while. Have to pass.

Get thee behind me Satan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGAACBAm6oY

When she hypothetically gets married, she makes her vows about how she was worried that she would end up being her man's Cho Chang, but after a key event she realised in her heart of hearts she was his Ginny all along.

In the case of a straight guy, the vows are about whether he was gonna be her Viktor Krum, but after a key event he realised he was the Ron to your Hermione.

MrMallard posted...

When she hypothetically gets married, she makes her vows about how she was worried that she would end up being her man's Cho Chang, but after a key event she realised in her heart of hearts she was his Ginny all along.

In the case of a straight guy, the vows are about whether he was gonna be her Viktor Krum, but after a key event he realised he was the Ron to your Hermione.

"IF anyone one has a reason these two should not be wed, speak now or for-"
"Those vows were awful and imply she knows nothing about me. I want the last few years of my life back. *leaves*"

these people don't exist. stop looking at memes and go outside

Choco posted...

these people don't exist. stop looking at memes and go outside

Sure, but I thought it was a fun, goofy situation to make a topic about.

I've also been around the block with Tumblr fandoms, with Harry Potter as well as SuperWhoLock and Steven Universe and all that shit. The people exist; they're a fringe group but they exist. Are they as prevalent as they used to be? No. But they're still around, and the concept is funny enough to goof on.

Yes. Nothing wrong with it.

No. Although it's less because of their obsession then what their obsession is with. I wouldn't feel safe around a person who was that big of a Harry Potter fan

No. I can't support JK Rowling's transphobia and can outwardly promote the successful media that allowed her voice to be so loud. As a former Harry Potter fan, this is how I choose to reckon with the present.

I could probably handle dating a Disney adult, and a Star Wars adult is a maybe. I am wary of unwavering devotion to concepts and individuals in general. Disney is a big enough brand that most Disney fans are capable of passing judgement on individual components. Star Wars is the opposite where I feel most of the fans pass petty judgements and just hate the franchise outside of sliver of entries they choose to be die-hard fans of.

LSGW_Zephyra posted...

No. Although it's less because of their obsession then what their obsession is with. I wouldn't feel safe around a person who was that big of a Harry Potter fan

LMAO.

Other - Someone being super into a fictional world wouldn't be a dealbreaker for me. I mean, it's not like I could judge on that anyway. But someone who's that into Harry Potter specifically runs a high chance of holding its author - and her views - in high regard as well, which means they would probably be a genuine threat to my well-being. At the very least, it's enough of a concern that I couldn't take that risk.

But other works of fiction are still fine. I knew a girl in college who was like this with Sonic the Hedgehog. Almost every time I ever talked to her, the topic turned to Sonic. Still had a heck of a crush on her anyway~

Revelation34 posted...

LMAO.

Yes? Do you have a comment?

Regular Potterheads are cringe, and I wouldn't date one.

Sure. Then I could introduce them to better fantasy series.

It is problematic in this day and age

it depends on if they acknowledge that jk rowling is a bigot

LSGW_Zephyra posted...

No. Although it's less because of their obsession then what their obsession is with. I wouldn't feel safe around a person who was that big of a Harry Potter fan

Yes, J.K. Rowling is a massive piece of shit.

That doesn't mean that fans of the franchise adhere to her anti-trans views. I'm sure most Star Wars Adults despise George Lucas over Jar Jar Binks, the Special Edition releases, etc.

The more rabid fans tend to disassociate from the content creator or champion theories that so-and-so really created the franchise. If there was someone who got Rowling's coffee while she was writing the first book, I'm sure 60% of Harry Potter Adults would swear that person was the real brains behind the franchise.

Yeah, I'd be fine with it. It's no different than a Star Wars or Disney Adult.

Nope.

I'd have no problem dating a "Star Wars Adult" or a "Disney Adult." I think people are far too judgemental about that sort of thing.

That said though, for Harry Potter, specifically, I'd be hesitant. Because with the bigotry of JK Rowling, everyone I know has distanced themselves from the IP. They still look back fondly on the fun memories they had with the books and the movies, but they don't actively support it anymore. So someone that's still very actively supporting the franchise would make me think they are okay with the bigotry

NoxObscuras posted...

I'd have no problem dating a "Star Wars Adult" or a "Disney Adult." I think people are far too judgemental about that sort of thing.

That said though, for Harry Potter, specifically, I'd be hesitant. Because with the bigotry of JK Rowling, everyone I know has distanced themselves from the IP. They still look back fondly on the fun memories they had with the books and the movies, but they don't actively support it anymore. So someone that's still very actively supporting the franchise would make me think they are okay with the bigotry

James Bond and Mickey Mouse were created by bigots.

There is a term for this. It's called Death of the Author. Fans can absolutely disassociate themselves from the views of a content creator while still enjoying the content.

I can't blame anyone for dropping a series because of it. But if they want to continue to be a fan, it's not the same as supporting what the content creator stands for.

FortuneCookie posted...

James Bond and Mickey Mouse were created by bigots.

There is a term for this. It's called Death of the Author. Fans can absolutely disassociate themselves from the views of a content creator while still enjoying the content.

I can't blame anyone for dropping a series because of it. But if they want to continue to be a fan, it's not the same as supporting what the content creator stands for.

This. Hell, Star Wars fans definitely dont like George Lucas.

FortuneCookie posted...

James Bond and Mickey Mouse were created by bigots.

There is a term for this. It's called Death of the Author. Fans can absolutely disassociate themselves from the views of a content creator while still enjoying the content.

I can't blame anyone for dropping a series because of it. But if they want to continue to be a fan, it's not the same as supporting what the content creator stands for.

I'm not saying that I think everyone that still likes Harry Potter is supportive of JK Rowling's TERF views, or anything extreme like that. But if they've made zero attempts to distance themselves from the series, it would definitely make me more skeptical of them. It's definitely relevant if the intent is to date that person.

NoxObscuras posted...

I'm not saying that I think everyone that still likes Harry Potter is supportive of JK Rowling's TERF views, or anything extreme like that. But if they've made zero attempts to distance themselves from the series, it would definitely make me more skeptical of them. It's definitely relevant if the intent is to date that person.

Its like you havent been around nerds before.

PraetorXyn posted...

Its like you havent been around nerds before.

It's like you haven't been around people that have dating preferences before

LSGW_Zephyra posted...

Yes? Do you have a comment?

That was my comment.

FortuneCookie posted...

Yes, J.K. Rowling is a massive piece of shit.

That doesn't mean that fans of the franchise adhere to her anti-trans views. I'm sure most Star Wars Adults despise George Lucas over Jar Jar Binks, the Special Edition releases, etc.

The more rabid fans tend to disassociate from the content creator or champion theories that so-and-so really created the franchise. If there was someone who got Rowling's coffee while she was writing the first book, I'm sure 60% of Harry Potter Adults would swear that person was the real brains behind the franchise.

It doesn't matter if they adhere to them or not, they are literally supporting someone who is trying to get me killed. Who supports someone whose response to trans people being genocided is "well it can't be genocide because being trans has nothing to do with genes!"

Fuck that. Fuck them. If boots ever get put on the ground to round trans people, these types will just watch and I really really don't need that type of person in my life

Revelation34 posted...

That was my comment.

Happy I can just ignore you then.

It depends how crazy they are and if they can keep their "fandom" in check. My wife is a "Potterhead" and I don't really like the Harry Potter series (I think the books terribly written and I think the "story" is just "fine") and I get along with her just fine. She loves Harry Potter but at least doesn't have an obsession with it. Meanwhile, my old ex, I dated in my college years, who was a huge anime fan had a terrible spending problem and would constantly ask me for money even though she clearly made more money than me. The red flag should've been when I entered her room, it was messy and saw a bunch of anime figures and posters. It was one of the biggest contributors to why the relationship didn't work, and it was my most expensive break up I ever had lol.

FortuneCookie posted...

James Bond and Mickey Mouse were created by bigots.

The James Bond we know is so far removed from Ian Fleming's bigotry that you might as well attribute the cinematic James Bond to Albert Broccoli. The movies - while extremely chauvinistic for their time, at least the earliest ones - actively cut back on a lot of Fleming's views.

Disney has its own problems, like all of their "first gay characters" being either so vague that you can ignore it or so clearly sectioned off from the rest of the movie that you can remove the scenes for foreign markets. But as an amorphous conglomerate, they've moved away from whatever bigoted views Walt Disney might have had. The focus on Disney today is probably more to do with their influence on the legal system (copyright law specifically) and the increasing monopolization of the Disney corporation in the world of media and beyond.

Fleming was a bigot when he was writing the books, and the movies - while products of their time and not perfect - cut a bunch of that out. Walt Disney has been dead since the sixties, and even then you associate the man and his vision with cartoons that are less bigoted than Looney Tunes and with his Disney resorts trying to emulate the cartoon idealism of the movies they've made.

JK Rowling is more pertinent because she made this massive beloved multimedia franchise, and then she went "I think transgender women are an affront to womanhood, I think they're rapists and misogynists and if we don't weed them out nobody will be safe". She used her massive platform to spread pure, undistilled transphobic bigotry to her entire base, she was able to uplift and empower more radical transphobes who undergo more political measures to legally discriminate against transgender people and she uses her massive Harry Potter fortune to contribute to the UK's ongoing campaign against transgender people.

People know James Bond through the more whitewashed movies where he's not as big of a jerkoff. Disney was a lot of things and his corporation is fucked on a bunch of different fronts, but even then, "Walt Disney was an anti-semite" is kind of a recent thing in the zeitgeist - I remember Family Guy being one of the only recent things claiming that.

Harry Potter is both recent and profitable. JK Rowling is still here preaching bigotry and using her money and influence to negatively affect the group she's being bigoted towards. The media, from the books to the movies to the video games, directly affect her through royalties and residuals that she receives directly. You can't say that for Ian Fleming or Walt Disney - they're both dead, and their influence compared to the media they produced has waned. Whereas JK Rowling and her transphobia are inextricably linked to this day.

Death of the author is one thing, but when the author not only clearly and loudly states their position on something and uses the money they make from the property to fund whatever the fuck they're saying, there's still something wrong happening that people can contribute to through their support. You can look at her work and draw your own conclusions, but the continued monetization of her work gives her money and power to pursue her bigotry. "It's death of the author, James Bond and Mickey mouse have a history of bigotry" - and yet the bigoted voices behind those characters are dead, and the money they make don't go to furthering the bigoted agenda of their creators. I can't see those arguments as being made in good faith.

LSGW_Zephyra posted...

It doesn't matter if they adhere to them or not, they are literally supporting someone who is trying to get me killed. Who supports someone whose response to trans people being genocided is "well it can't be genocide because being trans has nothing to do with genes!"

Fuck that. Fuck them. If boots ever get put on the ground to round trans people, these types will just watch and I really really don't need that type of person in my life

I'm going to Universal Studios in a week and a half from now and riding the Harry Potter rides. I'm also going to Disney World for a day - so I'm financially supporting Saudi Arabia's practices as well. Even if I stayed home, I'd still be supporting that by playing Nintendo games.

Who knows? Maybe the day will come when the story I'm writing now will have its own section of Universal which replaces the Wizarding World. I don't think I'm quite that ambitious though.

MrMallard posted...

People know James Bond through the more whitewashed movies where he's not as big of a jerkoff. Disney was a lot of things and his corporation is fucked on a bunch of different fronts, but even then, "Walt Disney was an anti-semite" is kind of a recent thing in the zeitgeist - I remember Family Guy being one of the only recent things claiming that.

I've never found any evidence to support "Disney was a Nazi" claims. Some of the images of Judaism in his animated works leave a lot to be desired though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB1mMNvrUrM

I dont care about Harry Potter one bit.

But if shes fine and puts out, i can make it work.

MrMallard posted...

The James Bond we know is so far removed from Ian Fleming's bigotry that you might as well attribute the cinematic James Bond to Albert Broccoli. The movies - while extremely chauvinistic for their time, at least the earliest ones - actively cut back on a lot of Fleming's views.

Disney has its own problems, like all of their "first gay characters" being either so vague that you can ignore it or so clearly sectioned off from the rest of the movie that you can remove the scenes for foreign markets. But as an amorphous conglomerate, they've moved away from whatever bigoted views Walt Disney might have had. The focus on Disney today is probably more to do with their influence on the legal system (copyright law specifically) and the increasing monopolization of the Disney corporation in the world of media and beyond.

Fleming was a bigot when he was writing the books, and the movies - while products of their time and not perfect - cut a bunch of that out. Walt Disney has been dead since the sixties, and even then you associate the man and his vision with cartoons that are less bigoted than Looney Tunes and with his Disney resorts trying to emulate the cartoon idealism of the movies they've made.

JK Rowling is more pertinent because she made this massive beloved multimedia franchise, and then she went "I think transgender women are an affront to womanhood, I think they're rapists and misogynists and if we don't weed them out nobody will be safe". She used her massive platform to spread pure, undistilled transphobic bigotry to her entire base, she was able to uplift and empower more radical transphobes who undergo more political measures to legally discriminate against transgender people and she uses her massive Harry Potter fortune to contribute to the UK's ongoing campaign against transgender people.

People know James Bond through the more whitewashed movies where he's not as big of a jerkoff. Disney was a lot of things and his corporation is fucked on a bunch of different fronts, but even then, "Walt Disney was an anti-semite" is kind of a recent thing in the zeitgeist - I remember Family Guy being one of the only recent things claiming that.

Harry Potter is both recent and profitable. JK Rowling is still here preaching bigotry and using her money and influence to negatively affect the group she's being bigoted towards. The media, from the books to the movies to the video games, directly affect her through royalties and residuals that she receives directly. You can't say that for Ian Fleming or Walt Disney - they're both dead, and their influence compared to the media they produced has waned. Whereas JK Rowling and her transphobia are inextricably linked to this day.

Death of the author is one thing, but when the author not only clearly and loudly states their position on something and uses the money they make from the property to fund whatever the fuck they're saying, there's still something wrong happening that people can contribute to through their support. You can look at her work and draw your own conclusions, but the continued monetization of her work gives her money and power to pursue her bigotry. "It's death of the author, James Bond and Mickey mouse have a history of bigotry" - and yet the bigoted voices behind those characters are dead, and the money they make don't go to furthering the bigoted agenda of their creators. I can't see those arguments as being made in good faith.

Yeah, death of the author is weird for multifaceted reasons. Like when discussing canon events a lot of the first arguments are literally about what the "authorial intent" is. Like, very few people argue death of the author when it's literally about the thing you are supposed to be using it for: interpreting what the work means. It's not supposed to justify whether or not you buy a thing or not.

Also can't help but remind everyone that Rowling herself said that Trans advocates are literally Death Eaters so you know.

I'm going to Universal Studios in a week and a half from now and riding the Harry Potter rides. I'm also going to Disney World for a day - so I'm financially supporting Saudi Arabia's practices as well. Even if I stayed home, I'd still be supporting that by playing Nintendo games.

Who knows? Maybe the day will come when the story I'm writing now will have its own section of Universal which replaces the Wizarding World. I don't think I'm quite that ambitious though.

What's your point?

LSGW_Zephyra posted...

What's your point?

That I'm sorry for apparently trying to get you killed.

>_>

I own anime waifu figurines, who the fuck am I to judge?