Current Events > Um... why didn't raditz turn into an oozaru?

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Revisited 09/08/23 8:56:39 PM #1:	He clearly still had his tail <cite>Revisited posted [p:975947720] in Um... why ... [t:80560045]...</cite> <quote>He clearly still had his tail</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dameon_reaper 09/08/23 8:56:55 PM #2:	...full moon dude <cite>dameon_reaper posted [p:975947728] in Um... why ... [t:80560045]...</cite> <quote>...full moon dude</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Incredible 09/08/23 8:57:27 PM #3:	raditz isn't fully a saiyan --- Hi my name is Bob and I work at my job <cite>Incredible posted [p:975947743] in Um... why ... [t:80560045]...</cite> <quote>raditz isn't fully a saiyan </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Irony 09/08/23 8:58:20 PM #4:	Because he was dead --- See profile pic <cite>Irony posted [p:975947768] in Um... why ... [t:80560045]...</cite> <quote>Because he was dead </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FortuneCookie 09/08/23 9:04:18 PM #5:	It's weird that Vegeta never mourned the loss of his tail. The show established that it was a physical symbol of saijin pride -- like a ram's horns or something -- and it came with the ability to transform into a giant beast. You would think that losing that would warrant a reaction, but Vegeta treated it like he was a boxer who just lost his mouthpiece during a fight. And it was never brought up again. <cite>FortuneCookie posted [p:975947883] in Um... why ... [t:80560045]...</cite> <quote>It's weird that Vegeta never mourned the loss of his tail.The show established that it was a physical symbol of saijin pride -- like a ram's horns or something -- and it came with the ability to transform into a giant beast. You would think that losing that would warrant a reaction, but Vegeta treated it like he was a boxer who just lost his mouthpiece during a fight. And it was never brought up again.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DementedDurian 09/08/23 9:06:46 PM #6:	FortuneCookie posted... It's weird that Vegeta never mourned the loss of his tail. The show established that it was a physical symbol of saijin pride -- like a ram's horns or something -- and it came with the ability to transform into a giant beast. You would think that losing that would warrant a reaction, but Vegeta treated it like he was a boxer who just lost his mouthpiece during a fight. And it was never brought up again. Well, that's Vegeta for ya. --- (She/Her) I'm a succubus. Don't worry, I'm not going to hurt you. <3 Video Game IGN: Mystic. Ask me for a joke, I come up with some good ones. <cite>DementedDurian posted [p:975947937] in Um... why ... [t:80560045]...</cite> <quote>FortuneCookie posted... </cite><quote>It's weird that Vegeta never mourned the loss of his tail.The show established that it was a physical symbol of saijin pride -- like a ram's horns or something -- and it came with the ability to transform into a giant beast. You would think that losing that would warrant a reaction, but Vegeta treated it like he was a boxer who just lost his mouthpiece during a fight. And it was never brought up again.</quote>Well, that's Vegeta for ya. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The_Popo 09/08/23 9:09:33 PM #7:	FortuneCookie posted... It's weird that Vegeta never mourned the loss of his tail. The show established that it was a physical symbol of saijin pride -- like a ram's horns or something -- and it came with the ability to transform into a giant beast. You would think that losing that would warrant a reaction, but Vegeta treated it like he was a boxer who just lost his mouthpiece during a fight. And it was never brought up again. Toriyama just forgot about Saiyan tails https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/7/8/AAEqD0AAE0te.jpg --- Live action Hungry Hungry Hippos though, now that was a sport. ~Aeon Azuran <cite>The_Popo posted [p:975947979] in Um... why ... [t:80560045]...</cite> <quote>FortuneCookie posted... </cite><quote>It's weird that Vegeta never mourned the loss of his tail.The show established that it was a physical symbol of saijin pride -- like a ram's horns or something -- and it came with the ability to transform into a giant beast. You would think that losing that would warrant a reaction, but Vegeta treated it like he was a boxer who just lost his mouthpiece during a fight. And it was never brought up again.</quote>Toriyama just forgot about Saiyan tailshttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/7/8/AAEqD0AAE0te.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tsukasa1891 09/08/23 9:23:19 PM #8:	Incredible posted... raditz isn't fully a saiyan Yes he is. Gohan was half and still transformed anyway. The reason he didn't was Toriyama didn't think of the ability to simulate a full moon with a ball of energy yet. --- (edited 2/30/2023 10:51:12 AM) <cite>Tsukasa1891 posted [p:975948225] in Um... why ... [t:80560045]...</cite> <quote>Incredible posted... </cite><quote>raditz isn't fully a saiyan</quote>Yes he is. Gohan was half and still transformed anyway. The reason he didn't was Toriyama didn't think of the ability to simulate a full moon with a ball of energy yet. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IShall_Run_Amok 09/08/23 9:25:10 PM #9:	He didn't know the Secret of the Oozaru --- "Kill everyone now! Condone first degree murder! Advocate cannibalism! Eat <poop>! Filth is my politics! Filth is my life!" - Babs Johnson <cite>IShall_Run_Amok posted [p:975948260] in Um... why ... [t:80560045]...</cite> <quote>He didn't know the Secret of the Oozaru </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Master_Kazuya 09/08/23 9:31:27 PM #10:	They didn't care --- 1 Like 0 Comments <cite>Master_Kazuya posted [p:975948385] in Um... why ... [t:80560045]...</cite> <quote>They didn't care </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MobileProphet 09/08/23 9:31:28 PM #11:	He was almost twice as strong as Goku and Piccolo and didnt feel the need to transform when his goal was to recruit Goku. He underestimated them both including Gohan catching him off guard that he didnt have the chance to transform if he even knew how to make a false moon to do it at the time. --- Mobile <cite>MobileProphet posted [p:975948386] in Um... why ... [t:80560045]...</cite> <quote>He was almost twice as strong as Goku and Piccolo and didnt feel the need to transform when his goal was to recruit Goku. He underestimated them both including Gohan catching him off guard that he didnt have the chance to transform if he even knew how to make a false moon to do it at the time. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ForsakenHermit 09/08/23 9:34:23 PM #12:	Raditz didn't have control over his great ape form. Combined with Gohan's rage power which could make it end badly, it's DOA as an idea. Raditz may be the biggest example of wasted potential. As Goku's elder brother he could have told his brother and nephew what Bardock and Gine were like and he had a very unique personality compared to his Saiyan counterparts He had pride in his race but wouldn't let it be his downfall if he could help it. He should have had the same chance to reform that Vegeta got. --- Beware the fanatic! Too often his cure is deadlier by far than the evil he denounces!-Stan Lee RIP Make Arcades Great Again! <cite>ForsakenHermit posted [p:975948421] in Um... why ... [t:80560045]...</cite> <quote>Raditz didn't have control over his great ape form. Combined with Gohan's rage power which could make it end badly, it's DOA as an idea.Raditz may be the biggest example of wasted potential. As Goku's elder brother he could have told his brother and nephew what Bardock and Gine were like and he had a very unique personality compared to his Saiyan counterparts He had pride in his race but wouldn't let it be his downfall if he could help it. He should have had the same chance to reform that Vegeta got. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
__aCEr__ 09/08/23 9:34:37 PM #13:	I don't think Vegeta taught him how to make that artificial moon. --- See you next Wednesday. <cite>__aCEr__ posted [p:975948428] in Um... why ... [t:80560045]...</cite> <quote>I don't think Vegeta taught him how to make that artificial moon. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Null_Gain 09/08/23 9:42:29 PM #14:	The_Popo posted... Toriyama just forgot about _____ That's the cause of many issues in the Dragon Ball franchise tbh --- Series S + Switch "Don't steal, stop being ignorant and respect other peoples beliefs." -perthboy on flying a Nazi flag <cite>Null_Gain posted [p:975948529] in Um... why ... [t:80560045]...</cite> <quote>The_Popo posted... </cite><quote>Toriyama just forgot about _____</quote>That's the cause of many issues in the Dragon Ball franchise tbh </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 09/08/23 9:48:39 PM #15:	Null_Gain posted... That's the cause of many issues in the Dragon Ball franchise tbh Poor, poor Launch. --- Eat the rich Destroy the GOP <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:975948607] in Um... why ... [t:80560045]...</cite> <quote>Null_Gain posted... </cite><quote>That's the cause of many issues in the Dragon Ball franchise tbh</quote>Poor, poor Launch. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FortuneCookie 09/08/23 9:50:20 PM #16:	Solar_Crimson posted... Poor, poor Launch. :( <cite>FortuneCookie posted [p:975948632] in Um... why ... [t:80560045]...</cite> <quote>Solar_Crimson posted... </cite><quote>Poor, poor Launch.</quote>:(</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YugiNoob 09/08/23 9:54:48 PM #17:	Whyd the Saiyans even bother planning their attacks for nights when theres a full moon? Doesnt that make them much more predictable? Compared to say, sneaking some warriors onto a planet in the daytime then making an energy moon substitute for surprise ape attack --- ( ^_^)/\(^_^ ) Maya High-Five! <cite>YugiNoob posted [p:975948686] in Um... why ... [t:80560045]...</cite> <quote>Whyd the Saiyans even bother planning their attacks for nights when theres a full moon? Doesnt that make them much more predictable? Compared to say, sneaking some warriors onto a planet in the daytime then making an energy moon substitute for surprise ape attack </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Requiem 09/08/23 9:56:05 PM #18:	Solar_Crimson posted... Poor, poor Launch. I heard she was removed/faded away because there were complaints concerning her... gimmick making light of mental illnesses. --- Copyright free literature available at http://www.gutenberg.org/wiki/Main_Page... otherwise known as Tex-Mex <cite>Requiem posted [p:975948702] in Um... why ... [t:80560045]...</cite> <quote>Solar_Crimson posted... </cite><quote>Poor, poor Launch.</quote>I heard she was removed/faded away because there were complaints concerning her... gimmick making light of mental illnesses. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VideoboysaysCube 09/08/23 9:56:14 PM #19:	Solar_Crimson posted... Poor, poor Launch. I laughed when I learned that the official reason for her disappearance was that Toriyama literally forgot about her. --- This sentence has five words. This sentence has eight words. Only one sentence in this signature is true. <cite>VideoboysaysCube posted [p:975948705] in Um... why ... [t:80560045]...</cite> <quote>Solar_Crimson posted... </cite><quote>Poor, poor Launch.</quote>I laughed when I learned that the official reason for her disappearance was that Toriyama literally forgot about her. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kimbos_Egg 09/08/23 9:56:57 PM #20:	Irony posted... Because he was dead --- You think you've Got problems? https://imgur.com/OnEOsdT <cite>Kimbos_Egg posted [p:975948718] in Um... why ... [t:80560045]...</cite> <quote>Irony posted... </cite><quote>Because he was dead</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 09/08/23 10:01:59 PM #21:	Requiem posted... I heard she was removed/faded away because there were complaints concerning her... gimmick making light of mental illnesses. No. Toriyama literally forgot about her. --- Eat the rich Destroy the GOP <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:975948788] in Um... why ... [t:80560045]...</cite> <quote>Requiem posted... </cite><quote>I heard she was removed/faded away because there were complaints concerning her... gimmick making light of mental illnesses.</quote>No. Toriyama literally forgot about her. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The_Popo 09/08/23 10:50:32 PM #22:	YugiNoob posted... Whyd the Saiyans even bother planning their attacks for nights when theres a full moon? Doesnt that make them much more predictable? Compared to say, sneaking some warriors onto a planet in the daytime then making an energy moon substitute for surprise ape attack Saiyans were usually far, far stronger than most races. Raditz was considered to be a weak Saiyan with a power of roughly 1,000. Nappa was around 8,000 and he was stronger than the god of the entire northern galaxy. So if weak Oozaru Saiyans would have a power of around 10,000, theyd be far, far stronger than only the strongest in the galaxy. And Oozaru Vegeta at 180,000 would be the 2nd strongest in the galaxy. The element of surprise wasnt necessary for them. They won by brute force. --- Live action Hungry Hungry Hippos though, now that was a sport. ~Aeon Azuran <cite>The_Popo posted [p:975949472] in Um... why ... [t:80560045]...</cite> <quote>YugiNoob posted... </cite><quote>Whyd the Saiyans even bother planning their attacks for nights when theres a full moon? Doesnt that make them much more predictable? Compared to say, sneaking some warriors onto a planet in the daytime then making an energy moon substitute for surprise ape attack</quote>Saiyans were usually far, far stronger than most races. Raditz was considered to be a weak Saiyan with a power of roughly 1,000. Nappa was around 8,000 and he was stronger than the god of the entire northern galaxy. So if weak Oozaru Saiyans would have a power of around 10,000, theyd be far, far stronger than only the strongest in the galaxy. And Oozaru Vegeta at 180,000 would be the 2nd strongest in the galaxy. The element of surprise wasnt necessary for them. They won by brute force. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 09/08/23 10:59:58 PM #23:	Requiem posted... I heard she was removed/faded away because there were complaints concerning her... gimmick making light of mental illnesses. Toriyama literally made Bulma expose herself several times to help advance the plot. He don't give af about portrayals of mental illness. He even created a superhero manga where the heroine kept on getting raped so she decided to become a prostitute instead. AT ain't out here worrying about politically correct characters in anything he makes. He just simply forgot about Launch inbetween DB and DBZ. --- Who is? I am! <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:975949604] in Um... why ... [t:80560045]...</cite> <quote>Requiem posted... </cite><quote>I heard she was removed/faded away because there were complaints concerning her... gimmick making light of mental illnesses.</quote>Toriyama literally made Bulma expose herself several times to help advance the plot. He don't give af about portrayals of mental illness. He even created a superhero manga where the heroine kept on getting raped so she decided to become a prostitute instead. AT ain't out here worrying about politically correct characters in anything he makes. He just simply forgot about Launch inbetween DB and DBZ. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 09/08/23 11:14:56 PM #24:	I wonder what DragonBall would be like in a universe where Toriyama never forgets anything <cite>Zikten posted [p:975949781] in Um... why ... [t:80560045]...</cite> <quote>I wonder what DragonBall would be like in a universe where Toriyama never forgets anything </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FortuneCookie 09/08/23 11:26:10 PM #25:	I mean, Akira Toriyama gave us a tribesman watching TV in a tree. I'll believe forgetfulness on his part before I'll believe that Launch was deemed too offensive. <_< <cite>FortuneCookie posted [p:975949918] in Um... why ... [t:80560045]...</cite> <quote>I mean, Akira Toriyama gave us a tribesman watching TV in a tree. I'll believe forgetfulness on his part before I'll believe that Launch was deemed too offensive.<_<</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
St0rmFury 09/08/23 11:32:47 PM #26:	Raditz was overwhelmingly stronger than Goku & Piccolo at that time so there wasn't any need for him to go oozaru. I also feel Vegeta didn't need to go oozaru since Goku pretty much had to push his body beyond his limits to match him in strength. It's more of a pride thing, he wants to absolutely crush Goku for drawing blood. --- "Average Joe" is a trolling term since it's completely an opinion. "Overachieving" is also an opinion. - SBAllen (Hellhole: 52458377) <cite>St0rmFury posted [p:975949996] in Um... why ... [t:80560045]...</cite> <quote>Raditz was overwhelmingly stronger than Goku & Piccolo at that time so there wasn't any need for him to go oozaru.I also feel Vegeta didn't need to go oozaru since Goku pretty much had to push his body beyond his limits to match him in strength. It's more of a pride thing, he wants to absolutely crush Goku for drawing blood. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Incredible 09/09/23 12:09:05 AM #27:	Toriyama didn't forget about Lunch. He wrote her off at the start of the Saiyan arc by having her chase after Tenshinhan off-screen. He came up with the filler scenes for her in DBZ and drew her in comic strips for the manga during the Freeza arc. Afterwards, he stopped using her entirely, but not because he had forgotten about her; she just wasn't important. --- Hi my name is Bob and I work at my job <cite>Incredible posted [p:975950396] in Um... why ... [t:80560045]...</cite> <quote>Toriyama didn't forget about Lunch. He wrote her off at the start of the Saiyan arc by having her chase after Tenshinhan off-screen. He came up with the filler scenes for her in DBZ and drew her in comic strips for the manga during the Freeza arc. Afterwards, he stopped using her entirely, but not because he had forgotten about her; she just wasn't important. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Poorly 09/09/23 12:11:42 AM #28:	Incredible posted... Toriyama didn't forget about Lunch. He wrote her off at the start of the Saiyan arc by having her chase after Tenshinhan off-screen. He came up with the filler scenes for her in DBZ and drew her in comic strips for the manga during the Freeza arc. Afterwards, he stopped using her entirely, but not because he had forgotten about her; she just wasn't important. --- <cite>Poorly posted [p:975950421] in Um... why ... [t:80560045]...</cite> <quote>Incredible posted... </cite><quote>Toriyama didn't forget about Lunch. He wrote her off at the start of the Saiyan arc by having her chase after Tenshinhan off-screen. He came up with the filler scenes for her in DBZ and drew her in comic strips for the manga during the Freeza arc. Afterwards, he stopped using her entirely, but not because he had forgotten about her; she just wasn't important.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MobileProphet 09/09/23 1:01:35 AM #29:	Incredible posted... Toriyama didn't forget about Lunch. He wrote her off at the start of the Saiyan arc by having her chase after Tenshinhan off-screen. He came up with the filler scenes for her in DBZ and drew her in comic strips for the manga during the Freeza arc. Afterwards, he stopped using her entirely, but not because he had forgotten about her; she just wasn't important. Everyone knows Poorly is your alt, Scotty. You dont have to talk to yourself. --- Mobile <cite>MobileProphet posted [p:975950962] in Um... why ... [t:80560045]...</cite> <quote>Incredible posted... </cite><quote>Toriyama didn't forget about Lunch. He wrote her off at the start of the Saiyan arc by having her chase after Tenshinhan off-screen. He came up with the filler scenes for her in DBZ and drew her in comic strips for the manga during the Freeza arc. Afterwards, he stopped using her entirely, but not because he had forgotten about her; she just wasn't important.</quote>Everyone knows Poorly is your alt, Scotty. You dont have to talk to yourself. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kuuko 09/09/23 1:05:30 AM #30:	Bardock is a brilliant scientist who invented the moon ball technique and didn't teach it to his son Raditz? Something doesn't add up here.... --- http://i.imgur.com/dzGMd.png <cite>Kuuko posted [p:975951017] in Um... why ... [t:80560045]...</cite> <quote>Bardock is a brilliant scientist who invented the moon ball technique and didn't teach it to his son Raditz? Something doesn't add up here.... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The_Popo 09/09/23 2:12:23 AM #31:	St0rmFury posted... I also feel Vegeta didn't need to go oozaru since Goku pretty much had to push his body beyond his limits to match him in strength. It's more of a pride thing, he wants to absolutely crush Goku for drawing blood. Well, we (the readers) know that Vegeta didnt need to go Oozaru. But he didnt. From his perspective, he just received a hand-to-hand ass whooping and then one of his stronger attacks was completely overwhelmed. He felt backed into a corner. Had Vegeta simply continued the fight without going Oozaru, one could make a point that the fight could have gone better for Vegeta. As you mentioned, Goku was spent. He was running on fumes already. Oozaru Vegeta could have destroyed Goku in a heartbeat, but he was playing with his food. In his normal form, Vegeta also could have (unknowingly to him) beaten Goku in a heartbeat. Or at the very least, lest Goku as a crippled, shattered person same as Oozaru Vegeta. Except the problem with going Oozaru is that Vegeta weakened himself noticeably in the process. Possibly by as much as a few to several thousand. And that was energy that Vegeta really needed at the end of the fight on Earth. Again, not stating this as fact. Just that it is within the realm of possibility. --- Live action Hungry Hungry Hippos though, now that was a sport. ~Aeon Azuran <cite>The_Popo posted [p:975951689] in Um... why ... [t:80560045]...</cite> <quote>St0rmFury posted... </cite><quote>I also feel Vegeta didn't need to go oozaru since Goku pretty much had to push his body beyond his limits to match him in strength. It's more of a pride thing, he wants to absolutely crush Goku for drawing blood.</quote>Well, we (the readers) know that Vegeta didnt need to go Oozaru. But he didnt. From his perspective, he just received a hand-to-hand ass whooping and then one of his stronger attacks was completely overwhelmed. He felt backed into a corner. Had Vegeta simply continued the fight without going Oozaru, one could make a point that the fight could have gone better for Vegeta. As you mentioned, Goku was spent. He was running on fumes already. Oozaru Vegeta could have destroyed Goku in a heartbeat, but he was playing with his food. In his normal form, Vegeta also could have (unknowingly to him) beaten Goku in a heartbeat. Or at the very least, lest Goku as a crippled, shattered person same as Oozaru Vegeta. Except the problem with going Oozaru is that Vegeta weakened himself noticeably in the process. Possibly by as much as a few to several thousand. And that was energy that Vegeta really needed at the end of the fight on Earth. Again, not stating this as fact. Just that it is within the realm of possibility. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revisited 09/12/23 2:43:35 AM #32:	So there really was a time when vegeta was technically stronger than goku? <cite>Revisited posted [p:976010801] in Um... why ... [t:80560045]...</cite> <quote>So there really was a time when vegeta was technically stronger than goku?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MICHALECOLE 09/12/23 2:46:02 AM #33:	Requiem posted... I heard she was removed/faded away because there were complaints concerning her... gimmick making light of mental illnesses. Nobody gave a shit about anything like that in the 90s <cite>MICHALECOLE posted [p:976010816] in Um... why ... [t:80560045]...</cite> <quote>Requiem posted... </cite><quote>I heard she was removed/faded away because there were complaints concerning her... gimmick making light of mental illnesses.</quote>Nobody gave a shit about anything like that in the 90s </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 09/12/23 2:51:58 AM #34:	Revisited posted... So there really was a time when vegeta was technically stronger than goku? Vegeta was stronger than Goku the first time they fought. After that moment though he's almost always been weaker throughout DBZ. In DBS Goku and Vegeta tend to yoyo in regards to who is stronger than the other. If one is stronger it's almost never for long. Also, Goku has never beat Vegeta in a fight. --- Who is? I am! <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:976010857] in Um... why ... [t:80560045]...</cite> <quote>Revisited posted... </cite><quote>So there really was a time when vegeta was technically stronger than goku?</quote>Vegeta was stronger than Goku the first time they fought. After that moment though he's almost always been weaker throughout DBZ. In DBS Goku and Vegeta tend to yoyo in regards to who is stronger than the other. If one is stronger it's almost never for long. Also, Goku has never beat Vegeta in a fight. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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