Current Events > Here is Heritage's vision of what a second Trump term would look like

Topic List	Page List: 1
Block_that_Kick 08/29/23 11:33:44 AM #1:	https://apnews.com/article/election-2024-conservatives-trump-heritage-857eb794e505f1c6710eb03fd5b58981 The goal is to avoid the pitfalls of Trumps first years in office, when the Republican presidents team was ill-prepared, his Cabinet nominees had trouble winning Senate confirmation and policies were met with resistance by lawmakers, government workers and even Trumps own appointees who refused to bendor break protocol, or in some cases violate laws, to achieve his goals. The ideas contained in Heritages coffee table-ready book are both ambitious and parochial, a mix of longstanding conservative policies and stark, head-turning proposals that gained prominence in the Trump era. Theres a top to bottom overhaul of the Department of Justice, particularly curbing its independence and ending FBI efforts to combat the spread of misinformation. It calls for stepped-up prosecution of anyone providing or distributing abortion pills by mail. There are proposals to have the Pentagon abolish its recent diversity, equity and inclusion initiatives, what the project calls the woke agenda, and reinstate service members discharged for refusing the COVID-19 vaccine. Chapter by chapter, the pages offer a how-to manual for the next president, similar to one Heritage produced 50 years ago, ahead of the Ronald Reagan administration. Authored by some of todays most prominent thinkers in the conservative movement, its often sprinkled with apocalyptic language. While presidents typically rely on Congress to put policies into place, the Heritage project leans into what legal scholars refer to as a unitary view of executive power that suggests the president has broad authority to act alone. To push past senators who try to block presidential Cabinet nominees, Project 2025 proposes installing top allies in acting administrative roles, as was done during the Trump administration to bypass the Senate confirmation process. John McEntee, another former Trump official advising the effort, said the next administration can play hardball a little more than we did with Congress. In fact, Congress would see its role diminished for example, with a proposal to eliminate congressional notification on certain foreign arms sales. Philip Wallach, a senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute who studies the separation of powers and was not part of the Heritage project, said theres a certain amount of fantasizing about the presidents capabilities. Some of these visions, they do start to just bleed into some kind of authoritarian fantasies where the president won the election, so hes in charge, so everyone has to do what he says and thats just not the system the government we live under, he said. --- The truth will set you free, but first it will piss you off. <cite>Block_that_Kick posted [p:975731314] in Here is He... [t:80549761]...</cite> <quote>https://apnews.com/article/election-2024-conservatives-trump-heritage-857eb794e505f1c6710eb03fd5b58981The goal is to avoid the pitfalls of Trumps first years in office, when the Republican presidents team was ill-prepared, his Cabinet nominees had trouble winning Senate confirmation and policies were met with resistance by lawmakers, government workers and even Trumps own appointees who refused to bendor break protocol, or in some cases violate laws, to achieve his goals.The ideas contained in Heritages coffee table-ready book are both ambitious and parochial, a mix of longstanding conservative policies and stark, head-turning proposals that gained prominence in the Trump era. Theres a top to bottom overhaul of the Department of Justice, particularly curbing its independence and ending FBI efforts to combat the spread of misinformation. It calls for stepped-up prosecution of anyone providing or distributing abortion pills by mail.There are proposals to have the Pentagon abolish its recent diversity, equity and inclusion initiatives, what the project calls the woke agenda, and reinstate service members discharged for refusing the COVID-19 vaccine.Chapter by chapter, the pages offer a how-to manual for the next president, similar to one Heritage produced 50 years ago, ahead of the Ronald Reagan administration. Authored by some of todays most prominent thinkers in the conservative movement, its often sprinkled with apocalyptic language.While presidents typically rely on Congress to put policies into place, the Heritage project leans into what legal scholars refer to as a unitary view of executive power that suggests the president has broad authority to act alone.To push past senators who try to block presidential Cabinet nominees, Project 2025 proposes installing top allies in acting administrative roles, as was done during the Trump administration to bypass the Senate confirmation process.John McEntee, another former Trump official advising the effort, said the next administration can play hardball a little more than we did with Congress. In fact, Congress would see its role diminished for example, with a proposal to eliminate congressional notification on certain foreign arms sales.Philip Wallach, a senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute who studies the separation of powers and was not part of the Heritage project, said theres a certain amount of fantasizing about the presidents capabilities.Some of these visions, they do start to just bleed into some kind of authoritarian fantasies where the president won the election, so hes in charge, so everyone has to do what he says and thats just not the system the government we live under, he said. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
brestugo 08/29/23 11:35:10 AM #2:	https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/1/2/AAcJoVAAEw1k.jpg --- Putin delenda est <cite>brestugo posted [p:975731330] in Here is He... [t:80549761]...</cite> <quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/1/2/AAcJoVAAEw1k.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
royic 08/29/23 11:35:28 AM #3:	How have these guys not had a "are we the baddies?" moment --- binga <cite>royic posted [p:975731333] in Here is He... [t:80549761]...</cite> <quote>How have these guys not had a "are we the baddies?" moment </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Block_that_Kick 08/29/23 11:35:52 AM #4:	Ive said it many times before and Ill say it again. If Donald Trump as President has authority to do whatever the hell he wants, then thats means Joe Biden right now has the exact same powers. I am never not astounded by how many conservatives and MAGA voters do not understand that. --- The truth will set you free, but first it will piss you off. <cite>Block_that_Kick posted [p:975731339] in Here is He... [t:80549761]...</cite> <quote>Ive said it many times before and Ill say it again. If Donald Trump as President has authority to do whatever the hell he wants, then thats means Joe Biden right now has the exact same powers. I am never not astounded by how many conservatives and MAGA voters do not understand that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SaikyoStyle 08/29/23 11:36:30 AM #5:	Meanwhile they strip the power of Democratic governors to make Senate appointments in cases of retirement and restore it when a republican gets elected. --- Taxes, death, and trouble. Brunt/Gaila 2024. Make Ferenginar Great Again! <cite>SaikyoStyle posted [p:975731357] in Here is He... [t:80549761]...</cite> <quote>Meanwhile they strip the power of Democratic governors to make Senate appointments in cases of retirement and restore it when a republican gets elected. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheGoldenEel 08/29/23 11:36:54 AM #6:	Literally just the Nazi party --- BLACK LIVES MATTER Games: http://backloggery.com/wrldindstries302 \\ Music: http://www.last.fm/user/DrMorberg/ <cite>TheGoldenEel posted [p:975731368] in Here is He... [t:80549761]...</cite> <quote>Literally just the Nazi party </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
brestugo 08/29/23 11:37:03 AM #7:	Theres a top to bottom overhaul of the Department of Justice, particularly curbing its independence and ending FBI efforts to combat the spread of misinformation. It calls for stepped-up prosecution of anyone providing or distributing abortion pills by mail. Double yikes --- Putin delenda est <cite>brestugo posted [p:975731371] in Here is He... [t:80549761]...</cite> <quote><quote>Theres a top to bottom overhaul of the Department of Justice, particularly curbing its independence and ending FBI efforts to combat the spread of misinformation. It calls for stepped-up prosecution of anyone providing or distributing abortion pills by mail.</quote>Double yikes </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Were_Wyrm 08/29/23 11:37:19 AM #8:	I seem to remember this happening in the past, but where and when??? --- I was a God, Valeria. I found it...beneath me. - Dr. Doom https://i.imgur.com/0EJvC4l.jpg <cite>Were_Wyrm posted [p:975731374] in Here is He... [t:80549761]...</cite> <quote>I seem to remember this happening in the past, but where and when??? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bishop9800 08/29/23 11:43:18 AM #9:	Were_Wyrm posted... I seem to remember this happening in the past, but where and when??? things that make you go hmmmmmm......... --- There's enough attention whores on CE already <cite>Bishop9800 posted [p:975731462] in Here is He... [t:80549761]...</cite> <quote>Were_Wyrm posted... </cite><quote>I seem to remember this happening in the past, but where and when???</quote>things that make you go hmmmmmm......... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gray_Areas 08/29/23 11:47:56 AM #10:	Block_that_Kick posted... Ive said it many times before and Ill say it again. If Donald Trump as President has authority to do whatever the hell he wants, then thats means Joe Biden right now has the exact same powers. I am never not astounded by how many conservatives and MAGA voters do not understand that. The thing is, I think a lot of those conservatives actually do believe Biden has these powers and that's why they can really lean into their criticisms and mean it when they blame Biden for everything from gas prices to inflation to "jailing a political opponent" since they believe the president literally controls the federal government. They're the kind of people who don't actually understand how separation of powers works in our governments or even understand what checks and balances are. They don't critically evaluate information so they take anything given to them at face valueso long as it conforms to their established worldview, of course. Otherwise that information is just a ploy by the liberal media or the "Deep State" or whatever other boogeyman they want to misinform people. <cite>Gray_Areas posted [p:975731532] in Here is He... [t:80549761]...</cite> <quote>Block_that_Kick posted... </cite><quote>Ive said it many times before and Ill say it again. If Donald Trump as President has authority to do whatever the hell he wants, then thats means Joe Biden right now has the exact same powers. I am never not astounded by how many conservatives and MAGA voters do not understand that.</quote>The thing is, I think a lot of those conservatives actually do believe Biden has these powers and that's why they can really lean into their criticisms and mean it when they blame Biden for everything from gas prices to inflation to "jailing a political opponent" since they believe the president literally controls the federal government.They're the kind of people who don't actually understand how separation of powers works in our governments or even understand what checks and balances are. They don't critically evaluate information so they take anything given to them at face valueso long as it conforms to their established worldview, of course. Otherwise that information is just a ploy by the liberal media or the "Deep State" or whatever other boogeyman they want to misinform people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnsteadyOwl 08/29/23 11:59:46 AM #11:	The idea of checks and balances on political power is a foundational part of the American system for a reason. Allowing anyone absolute authority to wield power however they please is not a good thing even if you think that person's interests align with yours. But the Heritage Foundation wants essentially a dictatorship because they know their ideas are so out of step with most Americans that they'll never be able to convince the public at large to embrace their vision of America. So the only thing left is to force their ideas on the public through authoritarian rule. --- "It is possible to commit no mistakes and still lose. That is not a weakness. That is life." <cite>UnsteadyOwl posted [p:975731725] in Here is He... [t:80549761]...</cite> <quote>The idea of checks and balances on political power is a foundational part of the American system for a reason. Allowing anyone absolute authority to wield power however they please is not a good thing even if you think that person's interests align with yours.But the Heritage Foundation wants essentially a dictatorship because they know their ideas are so out of step with most Americans that they'll never be able to convince the public at large to embrace their vision of America. So the only thing left is to force their ideas on the public through authoritarian rule. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Block_that_Kick 08/29/23 12:04:41 PM #12:	The thing is, I think a lot of those conservatives actually do believe Biden has these powers and that's why they can really lean into their criticisms and mean it when they blame Biden for everything from gas prices to inflation to "jailing a political opponent" since they believe the president literally controls the federal government. Both my family and my wifes family are very MAGA Republican. Its always the same pattern. When a Democrat is President, they act as if the role of President is nothing more than ceremonial and they cant even take a piss without Congressional approval. But once a Republican is President, they believe they can do whatever the fuck they want and everyone needs to get out of his way. --- The truth will set you free, but first it will piss you off. <cite>Block_that_Kick posted [p:975731809] in Here is He... [t:80549761]...</cite> <quote><quote>The thing is, I think a lot of those conservatives actually do believe Biden has these powers and that's why they can really lean into their criticisms and mean it when they blame Biden for everything from gas prices to inflation to "jailing a political opponent" since they believe the president literally controls the federal government.</quote>Both my family and my wifes family are very MAGA Republican. Its always the same pattern. When a Democrat is President, they act as if the role of President is nothing more than ceremonial and they cant even take a piss without Congressional approval.But once a Republican is President, they believe they can do whatever the fuck they want and everyone needs to get out of his way. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MNThunder 08/29/23 12:16:58 PM #13:	his Cabinet nominees had trouble winning Senate confirmation and policies were met with resistance by lawmakers, government workers and even Trumps own appointees who refused to bend or break protocol, or in some cases violate laws, to achieve his goals. This is probably the most troublesome. They are openly stating that the law should be broken to get what they want. <cite>MNThunder posted [p:975731957] in Here is He... [t:80549761]...</cite> <quote><quote>his Cabinet nominees had trouble winning Senate confirmation and policies were met with resistance by lawmakers, government workers and even Trumps own appointees who refused to bend or break protocol, or in some cases violate laws, to achieve his goals.</quote>This is probably the most troublesome. They are openly stating that the law should be broken to get what they want. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Starks 08/29/23 12:30:03 PM #14:	They want a unitary executive that behaves badly and will tell them what to do --- Paid for by StarksPAC, a registered 501(c)(4) <cite>Starks posted [p:975732188] in Here is He... [t:80549761]...</cite> <quote>They want a unitary executive that behaves badly and will tell them what to do </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
brestugo 08/29/23 12:35:14 PM #15:	MNThunder posted... This is probably the most troublesome. They are openly stating that the law should be broken to get what they want. The federal agencies I'm familiar with all had a rule that certain decisions/orders can only be made/given by a paid ("confirmed") individual. Someone "acting" or "temporary" couldn't make those same calls. It had to be someone that could be held accountable. Not all federal agencies have this rule (IIRC) though. Either the president needs to make it so that that's the case (subject to another one later changing it) across the board or better, Congress should make it a statute. I've said this for a while, after Trump, a lot of shit needs to be made statutory, because there's no telling what the next asshat will do. "Gentlemen's agreements" don't work anymore, if they ever did. --- Putin delenda est <cite>brestugo posted [p:975732267] in Here is He... [t:80549761]...</cite> <quote>MNThunder posted... </cite><quote>This is probably the most troublesome. They are openly stating that the law should be broken to get what they want.</quote>The federal agencies I'm familiar with all had a rule that certain decisions/orders can only be made/given by a paid ("confirmed") individual. Someone "acting" or "temporary" couldn't make those same calls. It had to be someone that could be held accountable.Not all federal agencies have this rule (IIRC) though.Either the president needs to make it so that that's the case (subject to another one later changing it) across the board or better, Congress should make it a statute.I've said this for a while, after Trump, a lot of shit needs to be made statutory, because there's no telling what the next asshat will do. "Gentlemen's agreements" don't work anymore, if they ever did. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
#16	Post #16 was unavailable or deleted.
EPR-radar 08/29/23 12:43:42 PM #17:	brestugo posted... The federal agencies I'm familiar with all had a rule that certain decisions/orders can only be made/given by a paid ("confirmed") individual. Someone "acting" or "temporary" couldn't make those same calls. It had to be someone that could be held accountable. Not all federal agencies have this rule (IIRC) though. Either the president needs to make it so that that's the case (subject to another one later changing it) across the board or better, Congress should make it a statute. I've said this for a while, after Trump, a lot of shit needs to be made statutory, because there's no telling what the next asshat will do. "Gentlemen's agreements" don't work anymore, if they ever did. Putting a few more guardrails in place can't hurt, but nothing will really stop the Republican menace except ending the GOP an a national party. There is no conceivable system of checks and balances that can deal with Republican bad faith indefinitely -- the best that we can hope for is a delay and/or thwarting the GOP's first attempts at a fascist coup, as has already happened. <cite>EPR-radar posted [p:975732389] in Here is He... [t:80549761]...</cite> <quote>brestugo posted... </cite><quote>The federal agencies I'm familiar with all had a rule that certain decisions/orders can only be made/given by a paid ("confirmed") individual. Someone "acting" or "temporary" couldn't make those same calls. It had to be someone that could be held accountable.Not all federal agencies have this rule (IIRC) though.Either the president needs to make it so that that's the case (subject to another one later changing it) across the board or better, Congress should make it a statute.I've said this for a while, after Trump, a lot of shit needs to be made statutory, because there's no telling what the next asshat will do. "Gentlemen's agreements" don't work anymore, if they ever did.</quote>Putting a few more guardrails in place can't hurt, but nothing will really stop the Republican menace except ending the GOP an a national party. There is no conceivable system of checks and balances that can deal with Republican bad faith indefinitely -- the best that we can hope for is a delay and/or thwarting the GOP's first attempts at a fascist coup, as has already happened.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
brestugo 08/29/23 12:49:00 PM #18:	EPR-radar posted... Putting a few more guardrails in place can't hurt, but nothing will really stop the Republican menace except ending the GOP an a national party. There is no conceivable system of checks and balances that can deal with Republican bad faith indefinitely -- the best that we can hope for is a delay and/or thwarting the GOP's first attempts at a fascist coup, as has already happened. I agree. Whatever checks are put in place still won't change the fact that the GOP want to wreck people's rights & everything. --- Putin delenda est <cite>brestugo posted [p:975732495] in Here is He... [t:80549761]...</cite> <quote>EPR-radar posted... </cite><quote>Putting a few more guardrails in place can't hurt, but nothing will really stop the Republican menace except ending the GOP an a national party. There is no conceivable system of checks and balances that can deal with Republican bad faith indefinitely -- the best that we can hope for is a delay and/or thwarting the GOP's first attempts at a fascist coup, as has already happened.</quote>I agree. Whatever checks are put in place still won't change the fact that the GOP want to wreck people's rights & everything. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LaLeyenda 08/29/23 1:00:48 PM #19:	TheGoldenEel posted... Literally just the Nazi party https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/8/9/AAds4pAAEy1V.jpg --- The one and only and still the best. <cite>LaLeyenda posted [p:975732744] in Here is He... [t:80549761]...</cite> <quote>TheGoldenEel posted... </cite><quote>Literally just the Nazi party</quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/8/9/AAds4pAAEy1V.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Robot2600 08/29/23 1:09:33 PM #20:	TheGoldenEel posted... Literally just the Nazi party --- --- <cite>Robot2600 posted [p:975732913] in Here is He... [t:80549761]...</cite> <quote>TheGoldenEel posted... </cite><quote>Literally just the Nazi party</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CoyoteTheGreat 08/29/23 1:13:18 PM #21:	royic posted... How have these guys not had a "are we the baddies?" moment Because they have zero loyalty to the idea of democracy to begin with. They are authoritarians to their core and think the very existence of people different from them is an attack on their person. --- Disobedience is the stamp of the hero. -Ragnar Redbeard Also, this is Kagata.. <cite>CoyoteTheGreat posted [p:975732985] in Here is He... [t:80549761]...</cite> <quote>royic posted... </cite><quote>How have these guys not had a "are we the baddies?" moment</quote>Because they have zero loyalty to the idea of democracy to begin with. They are authoritarians to their core and think the very existence of people different from them is an attack on their person. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mercurydude 08/29/23 1:15:01 PM #22:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Or they tell themselves that the baddies were never really the baddies, that was always just "globalist" propaganda. --- God forbid you ever had to walk a mile in her shoes, 'cause then you really might know what it's like to have to choose. - Everlast <cite>mercurydude posted [p:975733019] in Here is He... [t:80549761]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Or they tell themselves that the baddies were never really the baddies, that was always just "globalist" propaganda. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Torgo 08/29/23 1:16:39 PM #23:	royic posted... How have these guys not had a "are we the baddies?" moment Two reasons: 1) They have embraced the idea that they are iconoclastic outsiders and revolutionaries 2) They have convinced themselves they are carrying out the will of God 3) They have convinced themselves, like all fascists do, that the people they must crush under their boots are diluting their purity and making us weaker as a nation/species/people --- If what you believe is truthful and just, you shouldn't have to posture as someone or something else. <cite>Torgo posted [p:975733045] in Here is He... [t:80549761]...</cite> <quote>royic posted... </cite><quote>How have these guys not had a "are we the baddies?" moment</quote>Two reasons:1) They have embraced the idea that they are iconoclastic outsiders and revolutionaries2) They have convinced themselves they are carrying out the will of God3) They have convinced themselves, like all fascists do, that the people they must crush under their boots are diluting their purity and making us weaker as a nation/species/people </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jagr_68 08/29/23 1:22:50 PM #24:	Good thing it won't happen then. --- New York Rangers [2004-2008] https://media.giphy.com/media/WvQHBYW0q4TuxdAg61/giphy.gif https://psnprofiles.com/Jaromiroquai68 <cite>Jagr_68 posted [p:975733156] in Here is He... [t:80549761]...</cite> <quote>Good thing it won't happen then. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Takuya_Lee 08/29/23 1:45:28 PM #25:	Torgo posted... Two reasons: 1) They have embraced the idea that they are iconoclastic outsiders and revolutionaries 2) They have convinced themselves they are carrying out the will of God 3) They have convinced themselves, like all fascists do, that the people they must crush under their boots are diluting their purity and making us weaker as a nation/species/people That's 3 reasons... --- Narutaki was right. This is all Decade's fault. <cite>Takuya_Lee posted [p:975733640] in Here is He... [t:80549761]...</cite> <quote>Torgo posted... </cite><quote>Two reasons:1) They have embraced the idea that they are iconoclastic outsiders and revolutionaries2) They have convinced themselves they are carrying out the will of God3) They have convinced themselves, like all fascists do, that the people they must crush under their boots are diluting their purity and making us weaker as a nation/species/people</quote>That's 3 reasons... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Heineken14 08/29/23 1:46:35 PM #26:	"Here is Heritage's vision" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDGlN6mluGA --- Rage is a hell of an anesthetic. <cite>Heineken14 posted [p:975733666] in Here is He... [t:80549761]...</cite> <quote>"Here is Heritage's vision"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDGlN6mluGA </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Topic List	Page List: 1

Current Events > Here is Heritage's vision of what a second Trump term would look like (+) Yeah! (+)

Current Events > Here is Heritage's vision of what a second Trump term would look like