Current Events > AEW All In now officially the largest live wrestling event in history

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It surpassed the record set by WrestleMania 32. The technical world record is WCW/NJPW's North Korean event but the audience was forced to attend by the DPRK government.
https://twitter.com/wrestletix/status/1692696580296528343

Thats good for them since they did it in only 5 years.

I feel bad for the fans having to watch a Jericho vs Ospreay match though. Jericho can barely hold his own in tag matches nowadays lol

I4NRulez posted...

Thats good for them since they did it in only 5 years.

I feel bad for the fans having to watch a Jericho vs Ospreay match though. Jericho can barely hold his own in tag matches nowadays lol

As a fan I have no interest in literally any matches outside of MJF vs. Adam Cole lmao

people on wikipedia pretty much as soon as this was announced started trying to combine wwe dates on the articles about pro graps attendance to inflate those numbers. i think the effort failed but you can see see a weird fedpilled dude having a mental breakdown on the talk page

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90k over 2 nights is a lot different from 80k in 1 night

I4NRulez posted...

90k over 2 nights is a lot different from 80k in 1 night

I believe the measurement is based only on tickets covering both nights, not just one or the other. It's very rare people buy tickets for only one night. It's saying 90k tickets that cover both nights were sold, not just a combination of night 1 and night 2 tickets. If anything, tickets covering two nights would logically sell worse than one night, since it's a larger time commitment.

Too bad that the card only has three or four matches and one of those are up in the air because of the Cash Wheeler situation. A week to go too.

StealThisSheen posted...

I believe the measurement is based only on tickets covering both nights, not just one or the other. It's very rare people buy tickets for only one night. It's saying 90k tickets that cover both nights were sold, not just a combination of night 1 and night 2 tickets. If anything, tickets covering two nights would logically sell worse than one night, since it's a larger time commitment.

There aren't 90,000 seats in the arena for the WWE. They probably can't fit more that 75,000 in the arena at ultra max capacity. The arena holds just under 68,000 for a football game, but you can add a few thousand more seats for wrestling. But I sincerely doubt there is any floor plan that will add 22,000 more seats.

Bandit_Keith posted...

There aren't 90,000 seats in the arena for the WWE. They probably can't fit more that 75,000 in the arena at ultra max capacity. The arena holds just under 68,000 for a football game, but you can add a few thousand more seats for wrestling. But I sincerely doubt there is any floor plan that will add 22,000 more seats.

Ed Sheeran's concert housed 77k (almost 78k) people and had a decent bit of room to spare, so it's not impossible. That said, I'm interested in more details.

EDIT: Like said, the amount of people who buy tickets for only one night are in the minority, but it will be interesting to see how high the ticket number grows, to get an idea of how many people they expect to fit and how many did just buy tickets for one night, for some reason.

EDIT EDIT: There's also the argument that Wembley fits more people, in general, which raises the question... Would WM sell more if it was in a larger arena? It's impossible to know, really.

DirkDiggles posted...

Too bad that the card only has three or four matches and one of those are up in the air because of the Cash Wheeler situation. A week to go too.

Someone confirmed Cash is legally allowed to go to the UK
https://www.pwinsider.com/article/174432/cash-wheelerall-in-london-update.html

I mean "It has the largest attendence if we don't count the larger ones" is a silly thing to say

Guns_of_Verdun posted...

I mean "It has the largest attendence if we don't count the larger ones" is a silly thing to say

By "largest paid attendance" one would assume that an event paid for by a government where all of its attendees were forced to be there would kind of not count tbf

You didn't say paid in the topic title.

Literally moving the goal post and creating your own rules to fulfill your agenda

I see people are debating whether or not the North Korean government forcing people to attend a wrestling show should count as the largest attendance.

Here's a simple way to rephrase the topic title: AEW drew a larger crowd than the WWE ever has.

Aztex posted...

Literally moving the goal post and creating your own rules to fulfill your agenda

Imagine a wrestling promotion using hyperbole and exaggeration to sell tickets!

Next you're going to tell me they aren't really competing, and all of those personal feuds are scripted, lol!

FortuneCookie posted...

I see people are debating whether or not the North Korean government forcing people to attend a wrestling show should count as the largest attendance.

Here's a simple way to rephrase the topic title: AEW drew a larger crowd than the WWE ever has.

It makes sense too.

I mean isn't this their first EVER show in the UK period? - so that's going to draw a lot of fans to start with.

It's a summer pay per view event, and AEW is experiencing a big bump in popularity, having just created a whole new weekly show and several other media properties.

AEW has also been hyping the shit out of this, and really making a big marketing impression with this.

So really, if WWE were doing their first show in a new region, and it was a Wrestlemania level event while they were lucky to be in the midst of an uptick... I can see that being the case too.

AEW is just reaping the rewards of several factors all going their way.

I'm not going to go all NintenDOOMED on WWE. This doesn't mean that AEW... what do they call their Monday night show? ...is going to defeat Raw in the ratings each and every single week from now on. But, for what it's worth, at this juncture, AEW has bested WWE for attendance.

FortuneCookie posted...

I'm not going to go all NintenDOOMED on WWE. This doesn't mean that AEW... what do they call their Monday night show? ...is going to defeat Raw in the ratings each and every single week from now on. But, for what it's worth, at this juncture, AEW has bested WWE for attendance.

AEW has a Wednesday and Saturday main show, a taped show on Fridays, and some behind the scenes/reality show type stuff I don't care about.

WWE just has the biggest brand power, and the McMahon family are ruthless... I don't think they're going anywhere, but I'm glad to see a promotion that isn't McMahon affiliated do well.

AEW isn't my cup of tea wrestling wise, but I'm glad they're successful and there's another big wrestling company besides WWE.

Torgo posted...

AEW has a Wednesday and Saturday main show, a taped show on Fridays, and some behind the scenes/reality show type stuff I don't care about.

WWE just has the biggest brand power, and the McMahon family are ruthless... I don't think they're going anywhere, but I'm glad to see a promotion that isn't McMahon affiliated do well.

Hopefully, prison for Vince.

FortuneCookie posted...

I'm not going to go all NintenDOOMED on WWE. This doesn't mean that AEW... what do they call their Monday night show? ...is going to defeat Raw in the ratings each and every single week from now on. But, for what it's worth, at this juncture, AEW has bested WWE for attendance.

It's mainly because WWE hasn't gone to Wembley... Lately, at all? because they're being stubborn and want the UK to help pay for the show. Both WWE and AEW's biggest shows typically sell out, or close to it, and AEW basically got the record via... Going to the biggest stadium first. It's a record, no doubt, but it doesn't actually mean anything when it comes to "wrestling wars."

That's cheating they're going to England lol

StealThisSheen posted...

It's mainly because WWE hasn't gone to Wembley... Lately, at all? because they're being stubborn and want the UK to help pay for the show. Both WWE and AEW's biggest shows typically sell out, or close to it, and AEW basically got the record via... Going to the biggest stadium first. It's a record, no doubt, but it doesn't actually mean anything when it comes to "wrestling wars."

That's like that a boxer didn't take the championship because they didn't want to put in the time to train. If the WWE wants the accolade of the largest attendance record in history, let them go back to the UK next year and pay to perform in Wembley.

AEW has the record, good for them. It's a hell of an accomplishment. WWE will just have to live with having 2 to 3 times as many people watching their TV shows here in the States.

It doesnt count cause the WWE hasnt gone to Wembley before. I dont really care about wrestling wars but thats just silly.

Summerslam was there in 92 and did 80 thousand.

punkfanalways posted...

It doesnt count cause the WWE hasnt gone to Wembley before. I dont really care about wrestling wars but thats just silly.

Summerslam was there in 92 and did 80 thousand.

"If I had been on the card, it would have been 180 thousand, brother." ~ Hulk Hogan, probably

punkfanalways posted...

Summerslam was there in 92 and did 80 thousand.

That was old wembley

It sucks Bryan is injured, card looks bad outside of the 6 man tag. I can't belwthe biggest show in history is main eventers by MJF and Smol

punkfanalways posted...

It doesnt count cause the WWE hasnt gone to Wembley before. I dont really care about wrestling wars but thats just silly.

Summerslam was there in 92 and did 80 thousand.

...You do see the issue with that argument, right?

I mean, your name is "punkfanalways," (and you're an obvious 2023 alt), so I assume you're trolling, but...

Nobody is saying it "doesn't count," just that it doesn't mean anything when it comes to WWE vs. AEW "wars."

I4NRulez posted...

That was old wembley

And?

Oh, punk f, you and your anal ways

nothing against you, I just wanted to use that old PWB joke

punkfanalways posted...

And?

its two different buildings with 2 different capacities.

I4NRulez posted...

its two different buildings with 2 different capacities.

Old Wembley had 120k at one event

punkfanalways posted...

Old Wembley had 120k at one event

because they had people standing on the fucking field lol.

I'm sure if WWE or AEW could let fans stand in the ring they could hit 120k too. There's a reason it never hit that again

punkfanalways posted...

Old Wembley had 120k at one event

Old Wembley's maximum capacity was 127k. Current Wembley's is 90k. And yes, they can exceed that, but those are official capacities.

CRON posted...

It surpassed the record set by WrestleMania 32. The technical world record is WCW/NJPW's North Korean event but the audience was forced to attend by the DPRK government.
https://twitter.com/wrestletix/status/1692696580296528343

NK also has a larger stadium in fairness.

Wrestlemania 40 crushed that in a single day did they not?

Still impressive though, I hope it's a good show. I'm more curious at whether or not British fans will heckle CM Punk with chants.

StealThisSheen posted...

Old Wembley's maximum capacity was 127k. Current Wembley's is 90k. And yes, they can exceed that, but those are official capacities.

No it wasnt it's capacity was 80k. It was 100K plus for things where you could stand but they got rid of that and made it seats only

What were WM32's ticket prices compared to All In?

bigtiggie23 posted...

What were WM32's ticket prices compared to All In?

$18-$1,180

The ticket prices in AEW seem to be generally lower, but the front row is about 1.6k USD

But I think WM usually has golden ticket VIP sales for that where you get access to Axess etc etc that go for 2k.

I4NRulez posted...

No it wasnt it's capacity was 80k. It was 100K plus for things where you could stand but they got rid of that and made it seats only

Do you have a source on the 80k? Everything I can find says 125-127k was the official capacity, and it far exceeded that in several cases, sometimes by more than double.

I'm not arguing, you're probably right, I just can't find it, myself.

EDIT: Oh, I see now. The 125k was standing capacity, and that's the only number most sites list, so that's why that's what I keep seeing. So yeah, what you said makes sense.

wtf is aew lol

Trickfinger posted...

wtf is aew lol

New-ish Wrestling promotion, it allows me to enjoy wrestling again after i could no longer stomach a Vince McMahon owned promotion.

Dumb fun, guilty pleasure.

Never heard of the blokes. Sounds pretty Bush League, I have to admit.

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The official website for that stadium says the seating capacity is 67K so they must be fudging the numbers for being over two nights.