Current Events > The Last of Us is not imaginative or "the greatest story ever"

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Every idea has been done many times over. It seems profound to unread 20 year olds kids.

I too miss 2013.

TLOU has always been mid, uncharted the better series

I've never heard anyone say it told the greatest story ever

Its pretty basic, but it is told well and people genuinely enjoy it.

Bioshock Infinite is the one that I think is really shallow and fake deep.

Ellie carried it to be so

I don't think anyone has ever claimed it's the greatest story ever told.

It was the greatest video game story ever told at the time, and likely still is a top contender.

it had amazing production value and little else going for it.

give the same type of production value to the likes of deus ex or planescape torment and tlou would be a footnote in great gaming stories.

No one ever said it was.

It just set a really high standard for an epic narrative and emotional drama that 98% of video games outside of Final Fantasy don't ever convey or choose to delve upon.

Any game that has above standard voice acting gets elevated by that weird group of self conscious people who want games to be taken seriously as "art".

it has a simple plot, but its strength is with its writing and characters, and it presents some interesting moral quandaries.

as to whether it tells "the greatest story", though, that's pretty subjective.

lilORANG posted...

I've never heard anyone say it told the greatest story ever

I've seen most people praise the characters and their growth and relationships which still isn't the greatest thing

ArchNemo posted...

I don't think anyone has ever claimed it's the greatest story ever told.

It was the greatest video game story ever told at the time, and likely still is a top contender.

"No one ever claimed it's the greatest but it's the greatest"

Have you just realized that video games tend to have extremely shallow narratives?

The Last of Us stands out because it attempts not to completely suck. Imagine if your average game spent as much time and money on good writers and creative directors as they did making sure individual grass petals blow in the wind.

Is this about the hbo series or the game? The series definitely has an episode or two that stands out as being superb. That Bill episode was legitimately great storytelling.

The game merely existing being enough to make some people all flustered will never not make me laugh lol

Is TC fighting no one?

Am I getting this right from you guys? Story, character, narrative and good writing are completely different from each other and don't overlap?

Doom_Art posted...

The game merely existing being enough to make some people all flustered will never not make me laugh lol

people get so ass blasted over the game lol

VeggetaX posted...

"No one ever claimed it's the greatest but it's the greatest"

they specified video game story.

Simple plot != Bad

It was told well and had some nuance. Something TC didn't seem to pick up on

The story beats are familiar and unoriginal, but the characterisation was top notch.

VeggetaX posted...

Am I getting this right from you guys? Story, character, narrative and good writing are completely different from each other and don't overlap?

What you're getting is:

Akagami_Shanks posted...

ass blasted over the game

_____Cait posted...

Its pretty basic, but it is told well and people genuinely enjoy it.

boxoto posted...

it has a simple plot, but its strength is with its writing and characters, and it presents some interesting moral quandaries.

Pretty much this.

I think part of TC's point is it's incredibly overrated and not worthy of all it's praise. And based on all the defensive butthurt posts ITT, he's right.

VeggetaX posted...

I think part of TC's point is it's incredibly overrated and not worthy of all it's praise. And based on all the defensive butthurt posts ITT, he's right.

>TC insults anyone that likes the games story
>People get defensive
>VeggetaX shocked pikachu

Kaldrenthebold posted...

>TC insults anyone that likes the games story
>People get defensive
>VeggetaX shocked pikachu

Overly defensive. Calm down.

VeggetaX posted...

I think part of TC's point is it's incredibly overrated and not worthy of all it's praise. And based on all the defensive butthurt posts ITT, he's right.

People can like a game you don't like. It's okay.

COVxy posted...

People can like a game you don't like. It's okay.

And people can dislike a game you like.

VeggetaX posted...

And people can dislike a game you like.

I don't really care about your opinion of the game, and no post I've made itt suggests otherwise. I provided fairly lukewarm praise of the game. And then laughed at the wild projection coming from your posts.

Kaldrenthebold posted...

Simple plot != Bad

It was told well and had some nuance. Something TC didn't seem to pick up on

The best and most effective narratives are often the most simple.

VeggetaX posted...

I think part of TC's point is it's incredibly overrated and not worthy of all it's praise. And based on all the defensive butthurt posts ITT, he's right.

The only butthurt one that I can see in this thread is you.

Anyone else is pretty relaxed. Most praise the storytelling/writing/characters while agreeing that the plot is pretty basic.

COVxy posted...

People can like a game you don't like. It's okay.

No one said anything else.

Guess, I shouldn't be too surprised.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/4/3/AAcUs5AAEvvv.jpg

Bye.

VeggetaX posted...

Am I getting this right from you guys? Story, character, narrative and good writing are completely different from each other and don't overlap?

the story and narrative overlap, since the narrative is how the story is told.

but as far as the quality of the writing goes, I think it depends.

like, if you're telling a character-driven story, then you've got to give the characters depth and make them feel "real" in some way.

but if it's a plot-driven story, you don't necessarily have to do that.

When you can't attack the argument you attack the person. Especially by the guy who call people ass blasted lmao. Surely you aren't being overly defensive

boxoto posted...

the story and narrative overlap, since the narrative is how the story is told.

but as far as the quality of the writing goes, I think it depends.

like, if you're telling a character-driven story, then you've got to give the characters depth and make them feel "real" in some way.

but if it's a plot-driven story, you don't necessarily have to do that.

It's definitely character-plot driven which is why I'm confused why you guys are trying so hard to differentiate it. Only thing I can think of fanboyism, reaching for a praise.

VeggetaX posted...

Am I getting this right from you guys? Story, character, narrative and good writing are completely different from each other and don't overlap?

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/5/0/AAUQbgAAEvv2.jpg

VeggetaX, you're weirdly invested in not liking the game and attacking the people who do

Let it go man lol

VeggetaX posted...

It's definitely character-plot driven which is why I'm confused why you guys are trying so hard to differentiate it. Only thing I can think of fanboyism, reaching for a praise.

who's differentiating anything, and how?

VeggetaX posted...

When you can't attack the argument you attack the person

No one is even arguing.

Most people just praise its storytelling/writing/characters while agreeing that the plot is basic.

You just like the game less than others, which you are allowed to. But on the other hand, anyone else is allowed to like it. Whether it's "the best video game story" or not, no one cares about, since that's 100% subjective and not a question that can be solved anyway.

To each their own. Live and let live. The only one being butthurt here and picking up a fight is you.

boxoto posted...

who's differentiating anything, and how?

People have been saying the story isn't good but the characters are really good. My argument is that they overlap as a plot-character driven story so I'm not sure why people are separating the two.

gu-gohan posted...

The only one being butthurt here and picking up a fight is you.

I guess you only read what you want to read.

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VeggetaX posted...

People have been saying the story isn't good but the characters are really good. My argument is that they overlap as a plot-character driven story so I'm not sure why people are separating the two.

saying the story/plot isn't anything special, or that it's basic, mid, etc. is not the same thing as saying it's bad.

but let's say the actual story was bad - inconsistencies, plot holes, plot armor, events that don't make sense within the game's logic, unresolved plotlines, etc.

it's still possible to have well-written characters, even though it might be less likely to expect them.

why is this how you want to spend your saturday morning

my brother in christ, go watch some cartoons and eat some cereal or something

Doom_Art posted...

why is this how you want to spend your saturday morning

my brother in christ, go watch some cartoons and eat some cereal or something

I'm calm. Now please calm down.

As a huge zombie genre fan I still stand by the fact it is one of the most generic, bog standard stories ever for it.

The only reason it was popular was because of the developer. Naughty Dog shit gets praised constantly despite the fact that almost every game they've made since the PS4 era has been the same.

Zombies are so played out

haloiscoolisbak posted...

Zombies are so played out

Imo, only because western media has been doing them wrong. They don't respect the monster. They use them as a plot device rather then it's something to actually fear.

You look at Train To Busan and Kingdom and Resident Evil they all make the monsters scary while also keeping the humanity side to it as well.

Maybe. I think anything done so often would get a bit old though. It's a pretty simple concept and there's only so many ways to tell that kind of story

VeggetaX posted...

Overly defensive. Calm down.

I'm quite calm lol. Was just pointing out why people might get more defensive when the OP is insulting to people. Most everyone is simply explaining why it is well received, including myself

VeggetaX posted...

"No one ever claimed it's the greatest but it's the greatest"

The greatest story ever and the greatest videogame story ever are two entirely different things.