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Humble_Novice
08/04/23 8:20:21 AM
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https://fagenwasanni.com/news/netflixs-castlevania-nocturne-faces-criticism-over-race-swapping-of-annette/111816/

I know they didn't react so well when Isaac's appearance and personality were altered in the original Castlevania anime, but turning Richter's passive girlfriend into a race-swapped action heroine is going to drive them nuts. In my opinion, I'm very much all for this if it means Annette won't be a mere damsel in distress anymore.

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AceMos
08/04/23 8:21:14 AM
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why the fuck would you link me to bounding into comics i dont want to give that hate site clicks

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Humble_Novice
08/04/23 8:22:39 AM
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AceMos posted...
why the fuck would you link me to bounding into comics i dont want to give that hate site clicks
Not to worry, I changed it.

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AceMos
08/04/23 8:23:57 AM
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GranolaPanic posted...
You baselessly think everything is a hate site.
bounding into comics is a well known altright website

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Humble_Novice
08/04/23 8:25:21 AM
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AceMos posted...
bounding into comics is a well known altright website
Looks like you were right, my bad: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/bounding-into-comics/

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AceMos
08/04/23 8:26:34 AM
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GranolaPanic posted...
Do you have any evidence of that? And dont link me to some 40 minute video of a random person on YouTube.

Ive only visited it a few times and never saw anything alt right about it.

Humble_Novice posted...
Looks like you were right, my bad: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/bounding-into-comics/


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viewmaster_pi
08/04/23 8:29:17 AM
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you two really sweat too much about internet shit like this, and who's mad about what, and what sites are alt right, yadda yadda. does it ever end?

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CyricZ
08/04/23 8:32:22 AM
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vampire-enforced enslavement in the Caribbean

Now that just sounds like an actually interesting setting.

And yeah guys, Bounding Into Comics is basically Breitbart for pop culture.

If you don't know then now you know.

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AceMos
08/04/23 8:35:32 AM
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GranolaPanic posted...
The Media Bias Fact Check website isnt that reliable anymore.

But again, I went there a few times to read things about The Boys and Invincible. I didnt see anything that favored the alt right. Maybe that changed.

https://twitter.com/mattsouthworth/status/1054852883055689730?lang=en

here is them getting called out as far back as 2018


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ANort175
08/04/23 8:39:59 AM
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GranolaPanic posted...
The Media Bias Fact Check website isnt that reliable anymore.

But again, I went there a few times to read things about The Boys and Invincible. I didnt see anything that favored the alt right. Maybe that changed.
https://tinyurl.com/msde8nvf
(couldn't link to it directly since the link was apparently too long)
Really now, you don't see anything that "favored the alt right"?

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AceMos
08/04/23 8:42:00 AM
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GranolaPanic posted...
Never saw any of that. I know they made fun of the far right for not understanding that Homelander is a villain. But everyone was doing that.
well now you know they are and have always been altright

now is there something you wish to say to me

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IfGodCouldDie
08/04/23 8:45:03 AM
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viewmaster_pi posted...
you two really sweat too much about internet shit like this, and who's mad about what, and what sites are alt right, yadda yadda. does it ever end?
Passively supporting facisim is still supporting facisim, when you visit a website you're at the very least generating website traffic, which generally means some form of ad revenue, and if your cool giving facists money then you need to give your head a shake.

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AceMos
08/04/23 8:45:39 AM
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GranolaPanic posted...
Yes.

Living in a condo doesnt make someone rich.
you are more offended by what i said than TC was who did not care at all

what you owe me is an apology

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Were_Wyrm
08/04/23 8:49:27 AM
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I read that as "bigfoot fans" and realized this is the crossover we need.

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_MorningStar
08/04/23 9:02:37 AM
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Well this topic is a shit show

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viewmaster_pi
08/04/23 9:03:37 AM
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IfGodCouldDie posted...
Passively supporting facisim is still supporting facisim, when you visit a website you're at the very least generating website traffic, which generally means some form of ad revenue, and if your cool giving facists money then you need to give your head a shake.
i never even heard of it before this thread, lol. i only patronize websights of stellar repute like gamefaqs.gamespot.com

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IfGodCouldDie
08/04/23 9:16:18 AM
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viewmaster_pi posted...
i never even heard of it before this thread, lol. i only patronize websights of stellar repute like gamefaqs.gamespot.com
That's fine, I was addressing you trying to call out two posters that don't want to support fascist dickheads.

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Smashingpmkns
08/04/23 9:16:32 AM
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The link posted in the OP has weird AI generated images completely unrelated to the article lol wtf is going on

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Kim_Seong-a
08/04/23 9:19:56 AM
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Eh, as long as she doesn't turn into the writer's pet I don't care.

I really didn't care for Isaac or that wretched waifu-bait whore Lenore. >_>

...then again I also didn't care for Alucard upstaging the fucking Belmont when it came to ganking Dracula <_<

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Xenogears15
08/04/23 9:23:38 AM
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Kim_Seong-a posted...
Eh, as long as she doesn't turn into the writer's pet I don't care.

I really didn't care for Isaac or that wretched waifu-bait whore Lenore. >_>

...then again I also didn't care for Alucard upstaging the fucking Belmont when it came to ganking Dracula <_<

Dracula was his dad, though. Believe me, I understand what you're saying (BUT THE BELMONT), but I still feel that Alucard had the biggest reason to deal the final blow.

I also feel like I was the only one who actually liked Lenore, saw some of her more redeeming qualities, and was hoping she'd get a happy ending. Alas. At least she got to go out on her own terms.

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Eat_More_Beef
08/04/23 9:27:34 AM
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Were_Wyrm posted...
I read that as "bigfoot fans" and realized this is the crossover we need.

Duuuude... so did I. Glad I'm not the only one.

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Ruvan22
08/04/23 10:29:08 AM
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Xenogears15 posted...
Dracula was his dad, though. Believe me, I understand what you're saying (BUT THE BELMONT), but I still feel that Alucard had the biggest reason to deal the final blow.

I also feel like I was the only one who actually liked Lenore, saw some of her more redeeming qualities, and was hoping she'd get a happy ending. Alas. At least she got to go out on her own terms.

Same here, though I'm probably biased in that SotN was my first game so "protagonist trying to make up for sins of father" was already a favored trope.
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Kradek
08/04/23 10:35:12 AM
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viewmaster_pi posted...
you two really sweat too much about internet shit like this, and who's mad about what, and what sites are alt right, yadda yadda. does it ever end?

Are you really trying to assert that the bias/pov of the source doesn't matter?

"Who cares if the people who own and operate this website are Nazis?"


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Vyrulisse
08/04/23 10:40:26 AM
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"If you think race-swapping established characters is stupid you're a bigot."

Great way to kill any discussion or debate right off the rip.

Also what is even going on in this topic? It looks like madness.

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CARRRNE_ASADA
08/04/23 10:43:19 AM
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I find it so silly when a series about x game gets made and "fans" point out discrepancies, when the games themselves doesn't even really have much story to tell. CV besides lords of shadow has been go kill Dracula with a few conversations in between. So there's really not much "desecration" going on.

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AceMos
08/04/23 10:46:36 AM
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Vyrulisse posted...
"If you think race-swapping established characters is stupid you're a bigot."

Great way to kill any discussion or debate right off the rip.

Also what is even going on in this topic? It looks like madness.
well then you should hate castlevania games as they do not respect the source material at all for any characters they use

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DnDer
08/04/23 10:47:18 AM
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Vyrulisse posted...
"If you think race-swapping established characters is stupid you're a bigot."

Great way to kill any discussion or debate right off the rip.

Convince us otherwise?

What grounded reason could you have to oppose race swapping characters where race is not a significant part of the character or their arc?

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Doe
08/04/23 10:49:09 AM
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They probably should have given her a different name since they basically made a new character.

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AceMos
08/04/23 10:50:09 AM
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Doe posted...
They probably should have given her a different name since they basically made a new character.
and then people would bitch about an OC getting screen time

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Kradek
08/04/23 10:55:03 AM
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AceMos posted...
and then people would bitch about an OC getting screen time

It's kind of like when the Dem party overvalues how Republicans will respond to what they do. They're going to bitch either way, so might as well just do the right thing by normal people, which in this case, sounds like an OC.

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DevilZhouYu
08/04/23 10:56:16 AM
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I mean, Isaac was race-swapped, and he turned out to be one of the best things in Netflix Castlevania.

I'll wait to pass judgment on Annette.

But yeah, this topic went...places.

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AceMos
08/04/23 10:56:30 AM
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Kradek posted...
It's kind of like when the Dem party overvalues how Republicans will respond to what they do. They're going to bitch either way, so might as well just do the right thing by normal people, which in this case, sounds like an OC.
ok so then castlevania the games should have just made a new character rather than using dracula

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Kradek
08/04/23 10:57:52 AM
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DevilZhouYu posted...
I mean, Isaac was race-swapped, and he turned out to be one of the best things in Netflix Castlevania.

I'll wait to pass judgment on Annette.

But yeah, this topic went...places.

Is your picture Gottwald from Code Geass?

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DevilZhouYu
08/04/23 11:00:29 AM
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Kradek posted...
Is your picture Gottwald from Code Geass?
100% LOYALTY.

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Kradek
08/04/23 11:01:10 AM
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AceMos posted...
ok so then castlevania the games should have just made a new character rather than using dracula

I don't know, I'm not trying to get deep into the argument cause I have no personal investment in either the games or the show (I did like the show, never played the games), I'm just commenting on how the poster you were responding to said since they basically made a new character they should have just given them a new name. You said these people would then complain about an OC character, and I was just pointing out that if they're going to complain either way then it sounds like it would be better to just create a new character in that case.

DevilZhouYu posted...
100% LOYALTY.

The realest one.

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McMarbles
08/04/23 11:01:22 AM
#42:


Vyrulisse posted...
"If you think race-swapping established characters is stupid you're a bigot."

Great way to kill any discussion or debate right off the rip.

Also what is even going on in this topic? It looks like madness.
Is it our fault that historically, the Venn diagram of bigots and people complaining about race-swapping (or, ahem, redhead erasure) has typically been almost a circle?

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DirkDiggles
08/04/23 11:04:06 AM
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Humble_Novice posted...
https://fagenwasanni.com/news/netflixs-castlevania-nocturne-faces-criticism-over-race-swapping-of-annette/111816/

I know they didn't react so well when Isaac's appearance and personality were altered in the original Castlevania anime, but turning Richter's passive girlfriend into a race-swapped action heroine is going to drive them nuts. In my opinion, I'm very much all for this if it means Annette won't be a mere damsel in distress anymore.

As soon as I clicked that, my virus scanner started to cry. Watch out, people, that site has a crap-ton of spyware.

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Metal_Gear_Raxis
08/04/23 11:06:02 AM
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I'm upset about what they did to my boi Hector :(

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Link_of_time
08/04/23 11:45:02 AM
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was hoping for something a little different, as we already got a lot of "strong female" architypes in the prior series. Oh well, not my biggest concern.
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TonyKojima
08/04/23 11:46:29 AM
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I want a series with the OG Simon Belmont. According to lore he defied the family and entered castlevania on his own (first game).

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HudGard
08/04/23 12:00:58 PM
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Changing gears here because who gives a shit about a handful of hateful people.

So I played all the old Nintendo console and handheld titles, as well as SotN and on. But theres that gap with all the Richter games I missed out on. With this new series coming I want to prepare and play them, but all the different versions on top of my ignorance makes it difficult to figure out where to start.

What are the essentials to play and what versions are the definitive experience?

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Seaman_Prime
08/04/23 12:30:14 PM
#48:


HudGard posted...
Changing gears here because who gives a shit about a handful of hateful people.

So I played all the old Nintendo console and handheld titles, as well as SotN and on. But theres that gap with all the Richter games I missed out on. With this new series coming I want to prepare and play them, but all the different versions on top of my ignorance makes it difficult to figure out where to start.

What are the essentials to play and what versions are the definitive experience?
Castlevania Requiem has the definitive version of Rondo of Blood.
Dracula X Chronicles for the PSP is also a pretty good remake imo.
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AceMos
08/05/23 3:55:23 AM
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i notice granolah never returned to this topic after it being proven to him bounding into comics is alt right

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Quezovercoatl
08/05/23 4:08:15 AM
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AceMos posted...
i notice granolah never returned to this topic after it being proven to him bounding into comics is alt right
Sounds like an excellent opportunity to stop talking about it. You were right; Bounding sucks. But taking a victory lap this long is not necessary, you're going to alienate people who were on your side by getting this worked up. I don't like seeing people jumping all over you on CE when you don't deserve it, but if you take one thing away from my request here; it's important to be gracious in victory sometimes too. People will be on your side more if you just let things lie after you get vindicated.
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