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JebronLames
08/03/23 7:43:29 AM
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yep i put pro life in quotation marks. Are most pro lifers truly, pro life, though?

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Xatrion
08/03/23 7:45:37 AM
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Hypocrites, every last one of them.

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Bass
08/03/23 7:46:23 AM
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Yeah, they don't care about women. They put a fetus over women.

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hockeybub89
08/03/23 7:46:44 AM
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Pro-choice is the real pro-life

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GranTurismo
08/03/23 7:48:48 AM
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Bass posted...
Yeah, they don't care about women. They put a fetus over women.
yeah i kinda agree with this. But if true that they usually value a fetus much more than a single women, why would they do that though, but what is their thought process in doing this?
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AloneIBreak
08/03/23 7:50:23 AM
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I dislike the position, but not necessarily the person.

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bluezero
08/03/23 7:50:42 AM
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I have a female friend on FB that got so wrapped up in religion, that she celebrated and praised the overturning of Roe v Wade.

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Evillink2000
08/03/23 7:52:23 AM
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GranTurismo
08/03/23 7:54:14 AM
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bluezero posted...
I have a female friend on FB that got so wrapped up in religion, that she celebrated and praised the overturning of Roe v Wade.
interesting pt. isn't like over 40 percent of all pro life people, female? Have heard others say it is almost all men that are, but many pro life people are women
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DnDer
08/03/23 7:54:19 AM
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GranTurismo posted...
yeah i kinda agree with this. But if true that they usually value a fetus much more than a single women, why would they do that though, but what is their thought process in doing this?

It's not the fetus they value. Their thought process is to control the woman.

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08/03/23 7:55:08 AM
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AP3Brain
08/03/23 7:55:50 AM
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You can't be a part of the pro life movement without trying to force people under your ideals despite how dangerous and ineffective they are so generally yes.

I don't have a problem with people that are personally against abortion though.

GranTurismo posted...
interesting pt. isn't like over 40 percent of all pro life people, female? Have heard others say it is almost all men that are, but many pro life people are women

https://news.gallup.com/poll/244709/pro-choice-pro-life-2018-demographic-tables.aspx

Definitely significantly more men but a good chunk of women in the ignorant mix as well.
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Bass
08/03/23 9:33:37 AM
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DnDer posted...
It's not the fetus they value. Their thought process is to control the woman.
Some of them. Certainly the ones in power. A lot of the common people, especially women that are pro-life, have a inflated view of the fetus, though, in my experience.

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g980
08/03/23 9:36:30 AM
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AloneIBreak posted...
I dislike the position, but not necessarily the person.


This

DnDer posted...


It's not the fetus they value. Their thought process is to control the woman.


Try actually engaging with peoples' arguments rather than the most convenient strawman

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DnDer
08/03/23 9:42:11 AM
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g980 posted...
Try actually engaging with peoples' arguments rather than the most convenient strawman

What strawman? Time and again, their (pro-lifers) actions have demonstrated that they do not care about the fetus. They especially don't care about it after it's born.

That only leaves controlling the women as the remaining conclusion as to why they're so adamant in their position.

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Derwood
08/03/23 9:43:14 AM
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Do I dislike them? Eh, I disagree with them, but "dislike" is tangential to that

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thekosmicfool
08/03/23 9:52:16 AM
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I don't hate the few that actually ARE completely "pro life" and not simply wanting to control women's bodies. This means anti-capital punishment and pro-social programs that help people who are already born. I can't fault a person like that too much for unironically caring about the unborn as well. I think they're misguided in considering a fetus a person that supersedes the right to choose, of course, but I can respect being consistently and truly pro life.

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GranTurismo
08/03/23 9:54:27 AM
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thekosmicfool posted...
I don't hate the few that actually ARE completely "pro life" and not simply wanting to control women's bodies. This means anti-capital punishment and pro-social programs that help people who are already born. I can't fault a person like that too much for unironically caring about the unborn as well. I think they're misguided in considering a fetus a person that supersedes the right to choose, of course, but I can respect being consistently and truly pro life.
eh, but what percent of pro life people have this stance? can you say?
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RchHomieQuanChi
08/03/23 9:55:56 AM
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Pro-life in what way?

If they're "personally" pro-life then it doesn't bother me. If they're politically pro-life, then fuck 'em

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ArtiRock
08/03/23 9:56:49 AM
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Pro life in a moral way is fine. Being anti-abortion in the law is detestable.

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Will_VIIII
08/03/23 9:58:16 AM
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Went beyond dislike after Roe v Wade got repealed.

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thekosmicfool
08/03/23 9:59:21 AM
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GranTurismo posted...
eh, but what percent of pro life people have this stance? can you say?

No and I don't actually know any. But there's gotta be some, right? I don't hate those hypothetical people that might be real. The rest can fuck off.

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FortuneCookie
08/03/23 10:13:43 AM
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I dislike the people who use it as an excuse to try and control women or lock people into working shitty jobs to pay for their kids. I don't have a problem with someone who earnestly believes that a fetus is a life. It's nave and impractical, but it doesn't make someone an awful person.

I'm actually in agreement that a fetus is a life. But I understand that, sometimes, they have to be terminated before they're born.
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C-Mac
08/03/23 11:12:46 AM
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pauIie
08/03/23 11:29:14 AM
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they're not even pro life. they don't care about the life of the mother, nor do they care about making kid's/people's lives better after they're born.

they're pro birth/anti woman/anti sex.

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cuttin_in_farm
08/03/23 11:32:33 AM
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Topics like this really show how unwilling folks are to even try to depict an opposing argument in good faith.

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Will_VIIII
08/03/23 11:58:52 AM
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cuttin_in_farm posted...
Topics like this really show how unwilling folks are to even try to depict an opposing argument in good faith.
So pro lifers are to blame for my state no longer allowing abortion unless the woman's life is in danger and even then, doctors are hesitant to perform one.

Should my girlfriend get pregnant (we're looking at 2024 actually) and the fetus not be viable, or her reproductive system could get destroyed etc, we have to scramble to find care outside the state.

This is a very real scenario for us so yeah, pro lifers can fuck off for creating this situation for us.

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Kradek
08/03/23 11:59:42 AM
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I can respect actually pro-life people when it's authentic, not when they only mean it to be anti-choice or pro forced-birth.

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HeeathLivesOn
08/03/23 12:01:52 PM
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It's either

Pro-choice
or
Forced-Birth

You don't get the benefit of a nice-sounding label like "Pro-Life" when you're very much against supporting/nurturing life yet want to force women to give birth anyways. Cue last year's vote against support for baby formula for mothers / etc

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Ivynn
08/03/23 12:03:12 PM
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Evillink2000 posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDzs0gY1cTA

Can't believe Carlin went WOKE smh

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DKBananaSlamma
08/03/23 12:04:06 PM
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Nah, I'm pro-choice but my friends are half and half on it. We don't care, it's just politics.

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rideshort
08/03/23 12:05:57 PM
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I wouldn't even call them pro-life. More like anti-abortion.

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Gwynevere
08/03/23 12:12:12 PM
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I find them to be incredibly short sighted, abhorrent people. The US has some of the worst maternal mortality rates of the developed world, and is the last place that should be forcing unwilling mothers or those with life threatening pregnancies to carry to term.

This hits especially hard considering my partner had a birth that started to go south quick (it all worked out, thankfully). So anyone who thinks this is just politics can shove it up their fucking ass. It's people's lives on the line.

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maxpkmf
08/03/23 12:15:32 PM
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Im pro choice. I know abortion is murder but I dont care what you do.

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DarkBuster22904
08/03/23 12:15:53 PM
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DnDer posted...
It's not the fetus they value. Their thought process is to control the woman.
This is factually untrue

As someone who unfortunately has a lot of pro-life people in my immediate family, I can say that at least a good number of them they absolutely care about the fetus, and genuinely consider abortion to be murder.

The fact that they stop giving a shit about it after birth seems to be more of a "trolley problem" issue, to them: abortion requires a direct action for the "death," anything after birth is just passive circumstance taking its toll.

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Strider102
08/03/23 12:20:10 PM
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If they want to be pro-life for themselves then fine, that's their choice.

However they have no right nor business to tell other people what they can or cannot do.

But they do, so yes I dislike them.

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DarkBuster22904
08/03/23 12:21:20 PM
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DKBananaSlamma posted...
Nah my friends are half and half on it. We don't care, it's just politics.
All guys. Got it.

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videospirit
08/03/23 12:23:08 PM
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If someone was legitimately pro-life, fullstop, no hypocrisy, I'd accept that.

Any kind of exception without being at least somewhat pro-choice(Basically, if you have no restrictions on abortion before the point of viability that is pro-choice enough) and you're almost certainly a horrible person.

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Gwynevere
08/03/23 12:23:24 PM
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Shitposting about trans people is too likely to get you modded these days, gotta switch it up to something safer I guess.

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IfGodCouldDie
08/03/23 12:28:53 PM
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I can understand the argument and have no problem with someone believing that life at that stage should be respected. The problem I have with it though, is that I do not believe an unborn life is more important or should take precedent over a currently live one. (These would be people that believe abortion is wrong but respect a woman's right to choose.)

As for "pro-lifers" the problem I have with them, is that they allow their beliefs to cloud their judgement and they are massive hypocrites for it. They preach the sanctity of life over abortions yet elect people that make life harder for everyone. They refuse to help people that are currently alive and struggling. If they truly believed the bullshit they spew they would work to reduce unwanted pregnancies with proper education, they would work to create a world that is worth bringing people into, they would not make arguments like "you should suffer the consequences of your actions" like having sex is some kind of act to be punished. They are self-righteous assholes and deserve the same level of respect they show people outside their life circles, which is fucking none.

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DKBananaSlamma
08/03/23 12:29:56 PM
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DarkBuster22904 posted...
All guys. Got it.
nah, it's pretty even >_> Girls are probably more 2/3 pro-choice, but guys are definitely half

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GranTurismo
08/03/23 12:54:17 PM
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Will_VIIII posted...
So pro lifers are to blame for my state no longer allowing abortion unless the woman's life is in danger and even then, doctors are hesitant to perform one.

Should my girlfriend get pregnant (we're looking at 2024 actually) and the fetus not be viable, or her reproductive system could get destroyed etc, we have to scramble to find care outside the state.

This is a very real scenario for us so yeah, pro lifers can fuck off for creating this situation for us.
what? what state is this?
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Will_VIIII
08/03/23 12:55:30 PM
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GranTurismo posted...
what? what state is this?
WI

Though our courts lost conservatives so it's likely going to be remedied in the coming years.

But we're in our late 30s so it's not like we can wait that out

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GranTurismo
08/03/23 12:57:52 PM
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Will_VIIII posted...
WI

Though our courts lost conservatives so it's likely going to be remedied in the coming years.

But we're in our late 30s so it's not like we can wait that out
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