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AceMos
08/02/23 9:42:46 PM
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was just thinking about this and yea 4kids payed its voice actors well better than any other dub studio

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HylianFox
08/02/23 9:44:22 PM
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Ah needs ah monstah tah clobbah dat dere KIRBEH

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Foppe
08/05/23 2:24:11 PM
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4kids ruined Thunderbirds so much so it only aired once.
They ruined it so much so the VHS release had a different, better but still bad, voiceover.
They ruined it so much so it was cancelled after a few episodes.
...then the license went to a different studio that ruined it even more by trying to do a Power Rangers...

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Xatrion
08/05/23 2:27:49 PM
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I'll never forgive them for what they did with One Piece. Die, bad company, die.

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Irony
08/05/23 2:29:49 PM
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4kids ruined my life

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WellKnownNomad
08/05/23 2:31:20 PM
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Except 4kids were well known to be very racist to the very source material they were adapting

https://twitter.com/hatoktalk/status/1678070745497497600?s=46&t=ujiYouoAdweFb0c3KkSmTg

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DarthDemented
08/05/23 2:32:12 PM
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Xatrion posted...
I'll never forgive them for what they did with One Piece. Die, bad company, die.
What about shaman king? I attempted once and ended up just firing up the GameCube.

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PraetorXyn
08/05/23 2:35:12 PM
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Xatrion posted...
I'll never forgive them for what they did with One Piece. Die, bad company, die.
This. That was an abomination.

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Baha05
08/05/23 2:35:58 PM
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PraetorXyn posted...
This. That was an abomination.
But the Pirate Rap

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PraetorXyn
08/05/23 2:47:46 PM
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Baha05 posted...
But the Pirate Rap
Did I stutter.gif lol

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Homeless_Waifu
08/05/23 3:00:31 PM
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Digimon season 1 intro though

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AceMos
08/05/23 4:15:19 PM
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Xatrion posted...
I'll never forgive them for what they did with One Piece. Die, bad company, die.
they did not want ot dub one peace it was forced on them by toei

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Foppe
08/05/23 4:17:52 PM
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https://youtu.be/xfJuJrqFhXM

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super_felicia
08/05/23 4:22:31 PM
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The pokemon early seasons dub was their best effort cos the added jokes were quite funny and good word plays. They ruined sonic x though watching sub and dub of sonic x is night and day with the voice acting quality and music choice. Rip live and learn from the sonic x English dub

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Raikuro
08/05/23 4:27:52 PM
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Homeless_Waifu posted...
Digimon season 1 intro though
Digimon was Saban not 4kids
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spikethedevil
08/05/23 4:31:09 PM
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Homeless_Waifu posted...
Digimon season 1 intro though

Digimon wasnt 4kids.

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ROBANN_88
08/05/23 4:38:48 PM
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Xatrion posted...
I'll never forgive them for what they did with One Piece. Die, bad company, die.

yo ho ho, took a bite of gum gum

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HA4e
08/05/23 5:00:47 PM
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Coon-eye wit chayne!

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WellKnownNomad
08/05/23 11:50:14 PM
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Raikuro posted...
Digimon was Saban not 4kids
Yeah, thats the other racist dubbing company

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Alteres
08/06/23 12:05:53 AM
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ROBANN_88 posted...
yo ho ho, took a bite of gum gum
Still the only thing I think of when anyone mentions one piece.

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Priere
08/06/23 12:07:06 AM
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Foppe posted...
https://youtu.be/xfJuJrqFhXM
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Baha05
08/06/23 12:40:52 AM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

https://youtu.be/RSe8D2wfGKI

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Kradek
08/06/23 1:40:11 AM
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Alteres posted...
Still the only thing I think of when anyone mentions one piece.

I think about how I absolutely fucking hate Usopp and the fact that he hasn't died means there's nothing in that show for me to look forward to. I remember when I gave it a chance back in high school and there's that episode where they think Nami killed Usopp, only for it to not be true. Biggest fuck you to the viewers I've ever seen.

Also how overtly obnoxious the entire crew is sans Zoro and Robin, but Usopp is like peak obnoxious comedic relief for the sake of obnoxious comedic relief. Made even worse by his absolutely atrocious character design, there's just so much to hate.

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WalkingLobsters
08/06/23 1:46:58 AM
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is one piece actually good? I only ever watched the 4kids dub and I cannot imagine how a show about goofy pirates could be entertaining enough to watch 1k+ episodes

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PraetorXyn
08/06/23 2:09:59 AM
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WalkingLobsters posted...
is one piece actually good? I only ever watched the 4kids dub and I cannot imagine how a show about goofy pirates could be entertaining enough to watch 1k+ episodes
In terms of writing, characters, world building, emotional moments, etc., its in a league of its own as far as shnen goes, and I would argue Oda deserves to be in the conversation about greatest fantasy authors alongside Tolkien, Jordan, Kay, Sanderson, etc.

But its also absurdist fantasy like Discworld is, and a lot of people just cant get past the purposefully absurd character designs and behavior etc.

For what its worth, One Piece is the second highest selling comic of all time with 535.5 million units sold. Superman is number 1 with 600 million units sold, but Superman started in 1937 and One Piece started in 1997. Since I became aware of the sales figures, I think One Piece has dwarfed Superman + spin-offs / elseworlds / etc. combined in terms of annual sales figures, so if that trend continues, its possible it might pass Superman before the story ends.

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SSJKirby
08/06/23 2:12:18 AM
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WalkingLobsters posted...
is one piece actually good? I only ever watched the 4kids dub and I cannot imagine how a show about goofy pirates could be entertaining enough to watch 1k+ episodes
read the manga

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Priere
08/06/23 2:12:49 AM
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https://youtu.be/QyIpijrLlcM

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WellKnownNomad
08/06/23 9:51:26 AM
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Weird OP has said nothing after being called out for defending a well known racist company

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radical_rhino
08/06/23 9:54:40 AM
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Good thing I packed these delicious jelly donuts! - Brock, pulling three rice balls out of his backpack

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VGAddict90
08/06/23 9:56:05 AM
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As much flack as 4Kids gets, most of it deserved, they were a LOT of people's first exposure to anime.
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WellKnownNomad
08/06/23 10:09:21 AM
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VGAddict90 posted...
As much flack as 4Kids gets, most of it deserved, they were a LOT of people's first exposure to anime.
True but doesnt change the fact it had a lot of racist foundations, same for Saban

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WellKnownNomad
08/06/23 12:55:05 PM
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Also the voice of James from Pokmon calling 4kids the devil

https://youtu.be/RZlIcJbbm08

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PowerOats
08/06/23 12:59:32 PM
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I watched it mainly for Sonic X, Yu-gi-oh, and very rarely Kirby

kinda wild that kirby got a anime before zelda and starfox
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DarkChozoGhost
08/06/23 1:09:05 PM
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What did they do that was racist? I'm not denying it, but I've haven't heard about it so I'm curious.

I can definitely see them failing to properly respect cultural references, but I didn't know it was deliberately offensive.

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Foppe
08/06/23 1:13:30 PM
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DarkChozoGhost posted...
What did they do that was racist? I'm not denying it, but I've haven't heard about it so I'm curious.
They dared to whitewash black stereotypes.

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AceMos
08/06/23 1:13:48 PM
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DarkChozoGhost posted...
What did they do that was racist? I'm not denying it, but I've haven't heard about it so I'm curious.

I can definitely see them failing to properly respect cultural references, but I didn't know it was deliberately offensive.
alot of the times back then the studios asked for the localization changes to be made to give it a better chance in the west

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FL81
08/06/23 1:14:43 PM
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The 4Kids Yu-Gi-Oh! Dub is better than the original, and I will stand by this.

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AceMos
08/06/23 1:15:22 PM
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FL81 posted...
The 4Kids Yu-Gi-Oh! Dub is better than the original, and I will stand by this.
no no its really not it removed all the complexities of the character arcs


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WalkingLobsters
08/06/23 1:16:54 PM
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DarkChozoGhost posted...
What did they do that was racist? I'm not denying it, but I've haven't heard about it so I'm curious.

I can definitely see them failing to properly respect cultural references, but I didn't know it was deliberately offensive.
They called a rice ball a jelly donut

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Foppe
08/06/23 1:21:09 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/3/5/AAA_aCAAEusb.jpg

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PraetorXyn
08/06/23 6:03:35 PM
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FL81 posted...
The 4Kids Yu-Gi-Oh! Dub is better than the original, and I will stand by this.
  1. No it isnt.
  2. Thats like saying a polished turd is better than an unpolished turd.

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FL81
08/06/23 6:10:19 PM
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PraetorXyn posted...
1. No it isnt.
2. Thats like saying a polished turd is better than an unpolished turd.
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WellKnownNomad
08/06/23 6:17:14 PM
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AceMos posted...
alot of the times back then the studios asked for the localization changes to be made to give it a better chance in the west
Really making excuse for racism arent you?

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DarkChozoGhost
08/06/23 6:18:04 PM
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WalkingLobsters posted...
They called a rice ball a jelly donut
And that's racist? A poor choice, sure. But I don't see how that's racist.

Looking into it a little more, apparently a lot of VAs were doing some stereotypical accents. That could get racist pretty fast, I wouldn't be surprised.

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TheWizardOfOrz
08/06/23 6:18:21 PM
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AceMos posted...
alot of the times back then the studios asked for the localization changes to be made to give it a better chance in the west
That's not racism though?

It's a marketing decision based on them not thinking kids would understand it.
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PraetorXyn
08/06/23 6:20:42 PM
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DarkChozoGhost posted...
And that's racist? A poor choice, sure. But I don't see how that's racist.

Looking into it a little more, apparently a lot of VAs were doing some stereotypical accents. That could get racist pretty fast, I wouldn't be surprised.
I remember the 4Kids actor for Bon Clay in One Piece was supposed to sound like a redneck, but to me it sounded more like a pickaninny accent / racist cariacature of a black person.

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WellKnownNomad
08/06/23 6:21:37 PM
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Heres former CEO of 4kids being openly racist as well

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/3/7/AAP0tjAAEuvl.jpg

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