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bluezero
07/27/23 9:29:12 PM
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https://apnews.com/article/trump-classified-documents-justice-department-special-counsel-2025feb3f0f4e3820d14387c67ce4316

Former President Donald Trump faced new charges Thursday in a case accusing him of illegally possessing classified documents, with prosecutors alleging that he asked a staffer to delete camera footage at his Florida estate in an effort to obstruct a federal investigation into the records.

Get all the way fucked, you orange clown.

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Strider102
07/27/23 9:46:15 PM
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Trump: "I never asked anyone to delete camera footage, the FBI did that, you know, cameras are an interesting thing really, they're everywhere and they spy on you, like the FBI. So when this with hunt is over I'm getting rid of the FBI the first day I'm in office, bigly."

Probably what he'll say.

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Vegy
07/27/23 10:02:46 PM
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Cmon georgia, nows your chance

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TheSuperSilver
07/27/23 10:13:03 PM
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So Trump, if you're so confident that the Presidential Records Act allows you to keep these documents then why did you feel the need to delete camera footage of you arranging to have these boxes of classified documents moved? Sounds to me like you knew what you were doing was wrong.

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The_Wheelman1
07/27/23 10:13:50 PM
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Lol it just keeps getting worse for Trump. He's going to need a miracle to get himself out of all of this.

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DarkBuster22904
07/27/23 10:15:52 PM
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The_Wheelman1 posted...
Lol it just keeps getting worse for Trump. He's going to need a miracle to get himself out of all of this.
Or a judge that he appointed to abuse her power to let him slide.

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Vegy
07/27/23 10:17:45 PM
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The_Wheelman1 posted...
Lol it just keeps getting worse for Trump. He's going to need a miracle to get himself out of all of this.

Or just win 2024 presidential election, and with how close 2020 was...omfgehhh

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Tyranthraxus
07/27/23 10:22:26 PM
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DarkBuster22904 posted...
Or a judge that he appointed to abuse her power to let him slide.
After the horrendous beat down she got from the fully conservative circuit she knows her hands are tied. She's not gonna be able to just let him walk. Even if she sustains every objection from the defense it's an uphill battle for Trump.

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CableZL
07/27/23 10:24:49 PM
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Already having to update the spreadsheet

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Kradek
07/27/23 10:25:50 PM
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The_Wheelman1 posted...
Lol it just keeps getting worse for Trump. He's going to need a miracle to get himself out of all of this.

He's gonna need to become POTUS.

It's literally his driving motivation and what he's turned his candidacy into.

Tyranthraxus posted...
After the horrendous beat down she got from the fully conservative circuit she knows her hands are tied. She's not gonna be able to just let him walk. Even if she sustains every objection from the defense it's an uphill battle for Trump.

Nah, she's still helping him and doesn't care how it looks. She's banking on Trump becoming a judge and elevating her to some high level judicial position. All she has to do is keep pushing back his court date until it's eventually after the election, which if Trump wins that, then it becomes irrelevant.

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mystic_belmont
07/27/23 10:36:03 PM
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Dude is totally screwed. Was told to retain evidence, and attempted to destroy it anyway.

FBI likely had it anyway.

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TheSuperSilver
07/27/23 10:42:25 PM
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Crooked judge or not, I don't know you defend this in a court of law. There is no legal defense here. It's straight up bad.

It gets to a point that it's just too damn much even for a crooked judge to overlook.

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Tyranthraxus
07/27/23 11:13:51 PM
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Kradek posted...
Nah, she's still helping him and doesn't care how it looks. She's banking on Trump becoming a judge and elevating her to some high level judicial position. All she has to do is keep pushing back his court date until it's eventually after the election, which if Trump wins that, then it becomes irrelevant.

It's different here. Pushing too much will cost her everything if she gets recommended for disbarment. The circuit court in charge of that already really doesn't like her.

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mystic_belmont
07/27/23 11:15:17 PM
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TheSuperSilver posted...
Crooked judge or not, I don't know you defend this in a court of law. There is no legal defense here. It's straight up bad.

It gets to a point that it's just too damn much even for a crooked judge to overlook.

Exactly, this is dead to rights stuff. The FBI has text messages, footage and likely witness testimony. The FBI told Donnie not to do it, and he did it anyway.

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DarkBuster22904
07/27/23 11:23:48 PM
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mystic_belmont posted...
Exactly, this is dead to rights stuff. The FBI has text messages, footage and likely witness testimony. The FBI told Donnie not to do it, and he did it anyway.
We could have a signed confession and video of him writing it, and it wouldn't matter. She'll drag her feet and draw it out as long as possible, which is easy enough for her to do. If Donnie wins reelection, day 1 he makes this go away. Period.

The only way Turbo Toupee goes down is if he loses. So we need to be damn sure that happens.

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FlyEaglesFly24
07/27/23 11:32:47 PM
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hockeybub89
07/27/23 11:34:37 PM
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TheSuperSilver posted...
So Trump, if you're so confident that the Presidential Records Act allows you to keep these documents then why did you feel the need to delete camera footage of you arranging to have these boxes of classified documents moved? Sounds to me like you knew what you were doing was wrong.
Clearly he deleted them because he didn't want the corrupt FBI to be able to manipulate them into looking like he did something illegal

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07/27/23 11:37:44 PM
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CableZL
07/28/23 12:19:11 AM
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So Ive been listening to reports about the superseding indictment

These people are dumb AF

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CableZL
07/28/23 12:35:20 AM
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https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.648652/gov.uscourts.flsd.648652.85.0_4.pdf

That's the new superseding indictment

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Kradek
07/28/23 3:29:44 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
It's different here. Pushing too much will cost her everything if she gets recommended for disbarment. The circuit court in charge of that already really doesn't like her.

I doubt they will. It would be hard for them to find justification and Biden definitely isn't someone who wants to look like he's seeking retribution against anybody on the judicial side, even if it's justifiably so.

Most likely is she just does it and gets away with it, we have other judges who do that, such as Kazmeryck or whatever in TX.

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008Zulu
07/28/23 3:32:41 AM
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The_Wheelman1 posted...
Lol it just keeps getting worse for Trump. He's going to need a miracle to get himself out of all of this.
He still has his "Rich White Man." card.

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Takuya_Lee
07/28/23 3:40:05 AM
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008Zulu posted...
He still has his "Rich White Man." card.

No he doesn't. He actually has to be rich for that and it doesn't help him if he ticks everyone off

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bluezero
07/28/23 8:25:27 AM
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Josh Hawley certainly has a take on this
https://www.thedailybeast.com/hawley-shrugs-off-latest-mar-a-lago-defendant-as-just-a-random-person

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Euripides
07/28/23 8:28:42 AM
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TheSuperSilver posted...
So Trump, if you're so confident that the Presidential Records Act allows you to keep these documents then why did you feel the need to delete camera footage of you arranging to have these boxes of classified documents moved? Sounds to me like you knew what you were doing was wrong.

Of course he did, because three dozen people probably told him what he was doing was wrong at every step, and it only takes one or two to flip on him

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divot1338
07/28/23 8:31:02 AM
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Lol at this rate Im guessing 58 indictments by the time this goes to trial. Unless he is locked up for violating some pretrial condition and is forced to shut up.

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BurmesePenguin
07/28/23 8:36:45 AM
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even if he is convicted wont whoever is in the oval office just pardon him?

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Tyranthraxus
07/28/23 8:41:38 AM
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BurmesePenguin posted...
even if he is convicted wont whoever is in the oval office just pardon him?
Not if whoever is Biden

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BurmesePenguin
07/28/23 8:43:35 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Not if whoever is Biden
I think he would for the sake of national unity and trump having learned his lessonness.

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07/28/23 9:21:49 AM
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07/28/23 9:21:50 AM
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Kradek
07/28/23 10:44:01 AM
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BurmesePenguin posted...
I think he would for the sake of national unity and trump having learned his lessonness.

It would be the dumbest decision he would ever make if he did. Ford pardoned Nixon, helping him escape accountability for his crimes, and as a result he lost reelection, which he even agreed was the case. It just helps further establish the bad precedent that we shouldn't hold Presidents, the highest office in the nation and thus having the most ability to do damage if they become corrupt or criminal, to any real sort of accountability or to the law.

Whatever stupid attempt he'd be making at pacifying the MAGA fascist terrorists would just end up putting the GOP candidate (likely Trump) into office as an almost guarantee.

It's one thing for Dem voters to be disappointed because the party isn't left enough, however pardoning literal Donald Trump would wound the Dem party for several elections at least, and at that point the Christo-fascists would have all the governmental positions they needed to end democracy anyways.

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CableZL
07/28/23 11:03:17 AM
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BurmesePenguin posted...
I think he would for the sake of national unity and trump having learned his lessonness.

Republicans thought Trump learned his lesson before, and then January 6th happened. Trump hasn't shown any signs that he has learned jack shit.

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Block_that_Kick
07/28/23 11:04:41 AM
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BurmesePenguin posted...
I think he would for the sake of national unity and trump having learned his lessonness.

Susan Collins is not President.

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Tyranthraxus
07/28/23 11:05:14 AM
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CableZL posted...
Republicans thought Trump learned his lesson before, and then January 6th happened. Trump hasn't shown any signs that he has learned jack shit.
He did learn something. He learned he can do whatever the fuck he wants and republicans will help him get away with it.

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dummy420
07/28/23 11:07:27 AM
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I'm just waiting for the gollum tweets.

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davyheinz
07/28/23 11:08:14 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
He did learn something. He learned he can do whatever the fuck he wants and republicans will help him get away with it.
Exactly this. Republicans are fucking cowards; they will always bend the knee.

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Shadow_Don
07/28/23 11:09:44 AM
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CableZL posted...
Republicans thought Trump learned his lesson before, and then January 6th happened. Trump hasn't shown any signs that he has learned jack shit.

Been seeing a lot of "biden is gonna pardon trump" nonsense. Its just trolling and/or a misinfo strategy to get people to not vote.

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Southernfatman
07/28/23 11:19:39 AM
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Shadow_Don posted...
Been seeing a lot of "biden is gonna pardon trump" nonsense. Its just trolling and/or a misinfo strategy to get people to not vote.

While that's a part of it, I think most saying it are just extremely jaded and cynical at the system. I can't blame them that much for thinking that.

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Shadow_Don
07/28/23 11:28:58 AM
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Southernfatman posted...
While that's a part of it, I think most saying it are just extremely jaded and cynical at the system. I can't blame them that much for thinking that.

I mean I can understand being jaded and thinking biden and garland are being reckless given the seriousness of this moment. Too much faith in the institutions resolving the situation rather than action.

But your straight up rotting your brain if the people you are listening to have you believing that a pardon is on the table. Thats insane.

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Nok_Su_Kow
07/28/23 11:45:54 AM
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He wouldn't pardon his own son let alone Trumpty dumpty.
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