Current Events > Should Sweden freeze its foreign aid to Iraq?

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BalanceLost
07/21/23 12:17:38 PM
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Iraq has cut diplomatic ties with us since burning holy texts is legal.


So since they dont want diplomatic ties since people are allowed to burn the Quran, should we freeze our foreign aid and spend it on stuff here at home?

I lean Left and say yes. No more money for them.

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PokemonExpert44
07/21/23 12:18:56 PM
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Yes

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AloneIBreak
07/21/23 12:19:56 PM
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Probably not, but whats the background to this topic?

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StateofZen
07/21/23 12:20:02 PM
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You think they have control over them?

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Were_Wyrm
07/21/23 12:26:19 PM
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AloneIBreak posted...
whats the background to this topic?

BalanceLost posted...
Iraq has cut diplomatic ties with us since burning holy texts is legal.


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BurmesePenguin
07/21/23 12:28:24 PM
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It would be rather hypnocritical of Iraq to accept Sweden money given their choice.

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BalanceLost
07/21/23 7:03:59 PM
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AloneIBreak posted...
Probably not, but whats the background to this topic?
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-66259886.amp

StateofZen posted...
You think they have control over them?
They being Sweden and them being foreign aid?

Our foreign aid is actually tightly controlled by the Prime-minister and his/her Government (Cabinet). It is part of the bi-annual national budget that is created by the Government and then approved by Riksdagen (Parliament). Since Riksdagen only vote on the total sum the Government can control the money as it sees fit. The current administration has already decreased the total amount going to other countries to pay for immigration costs at home.

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BalanceLost
07/21/23 7:56:50 PM
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Good night bump.

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BalanceLost
07/22/23 3:09:51 AM
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Those who vote no, can you please explain your reasoning?

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ROBANN_88
07/22/23 3:12:50 AM
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Sure, why not

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Thompson
07/22/23 3:15:46 AM
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If Iraq does not want to have diplomatic contacts with Sweden, then they also don't want Sweden's money.

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BalanceLost
07/22/23 4:45:20 AM
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ROBANN_88 posted...
Sure, why not
We can spend the money here or give it to Ukraine.

Thompson posted...
If Iraq does not want to have diplomatic contacts with Sweden, then they also don't want Sweden's money.
Exactly.

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Foppe
07/22/23 5:05:46 AM
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Yes.

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indica
07/22/23 5:28:43 AM
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Should we help people who we deeply offended and who are suffering terribly? Nah, fuck'em. That seems like a great attitude ( -_-)

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Foppe
07/22/23 5:42:02 AM
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indica posted...
Should we help people who we deeply offended and who are suffering terribly? Nah, fuck'em. That seems like a great attitude ( -_-)
They are offended by our freedom and demands that we send the book burners to Iraq so they can sentence them according to Iraqi laws.
And if you demand to cut all ties, then all ties should be cut. Perhaps they should have used those 30 years+ of foreign aids better.

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indica
07/22/23 5:57:25 AM
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Foppe posted...
They are offended by our freedom and demands that we send the book burners to Iraq so they can sentence them according to Iraqi laws.
And if you demand to cut all ties, then all ties should be cut. Perhaps they should have used those 30 years+ of foreign aids better.
"They" are primarily the government and what handful of people are shown. The vast majority are probably offended but don't really give a fuck--because they live in abject misery

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Foppe
07/22/23 6:03:59 AM
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indica posted...
"They" are primarily the government and what handful of people are shown. The vast majority are probably offended but don't really give a fuck--because they live in abject misery
If the majority is against cut ties, then they can show it.

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jumi
07/22/23 7:18:16 AM
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indica posted...
Should we help people who we deeply offended and who are suffering terribly? Nah, fuck'em. That seems like a great attitude ( -_-)

Deeply offended them by allowing freedom of speech.

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scar_the_1
07/23/23 11:03:21 AM
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I'd be curious to know more details about what that money is used for before I say yes or no

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andel
07/23/23 11:07:55 AM
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indica posted...
"They" are primarily the government and what handful of people are shown. The vast majority are probably offended but don't really give a fuck--because they live in abject misery

who do you think controls aid money? hint, it's the people in power aka the government.

seems like it would go to much better use in ukraine which is an active war zone and ukraine actually appreciates aid it gets and doesn't try to dictate foreign domestic affairs

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MrResetti
07/23/23 11:12:31 AM
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indica posted...
"They" are primarily the government and what handful of people are shown. The vast majority are probably offended but don't really give a fuck--because they live in abject misery
The ones who tried to storm the embassy?
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Anteaterking
07/23/23 11:15:52 AM
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Independently of the reason in this case, this line of thought kind of seems like "We give you money so you're not allowed to be mad at us".

Which I don't think *normally* is a particularly good moral stance when you're talking about foreign aid.

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Vampire_Chicken
07/23/23 11:31:18 AM
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Anteaterking posted...
this line of thought kind of seems like "We give you money so you're not allowed to be mad at us".
Well, you're certainly not allowed to storm our embassy compound, torch it, and make us evacuate our embassy staff for their own safety. Don't hold out the begging bowl with one hand and wave a fist under our nose with the other.

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