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colliding
07/16/23 9:23:39 AM
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Just kidding. I find it pretty hard to care about tennis these days, since Djokovic is so dominant and Fed's retired and Nadal's retirement is imminent.

Alcaraz is supposedly the next major talent but it just seems like a pretty weak era.


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07/16/23 9:46:11 AM
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Suprak_the_Stud
07/16/23 10:00:35 AM
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And I said, how about

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07/16/23 10:01:50 AM
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She said I think I remember the film

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Seanchan
07/16/23 10:03:54 AM
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The rain in Spain falls mainly on the plain.

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Denji
07/16/23 10:05:08 AM
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At least the women's game is in a fun place. But yeah, hard to care much until someone can show they can challenge Djokovic (I say as Alcaraz gives back his advantage in the second set)

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Jakyl25
07/16/23 10:45:51 AM
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Djokovic going for the actual Grand Slam at the US Open is something compelling!

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Jakyl25
07/16/23 12:02:35 PM
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Holy shit that game

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Seanchan
07/16/23 12:47:17 PM
#10:


Alcaraz can't let Djokovic get this 4th set. He's got to dig deep and kill him now. I feel like he hasn't quite taken advantage early in this set.

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Seanchan
07/16/23 1:06:40 PM
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Onto the 5th.

Certainly feels like advantage Djokovic...

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Seanchan
07/16/23 1:38:20 PM
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Alcaraz up a break. Just needs to hold serve.

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Seanchan
07/16/23 1:48:59 PM
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Serving for the championship.

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Seanchan
07/16/23 1:52:12 PM
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championship point...

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Seanchan
07/16/23 1:53:08 PM
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Alcaraz gets it done!

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XIII_Rocks
07/16/23 2:01:21 PM
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Cool

I still need Djokovic to win a couple more sadly - despite the antivax stuff he's still the lesser of two evils - but I wouldn't have liked if Djokovic had retired without being "dethroned" at any point

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changmas
07/16/23 2:06:18 PM
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XIII_Rocks posted...
Cool

I still need Djokovic to win a couple more sadly - despite the antivax stuff he's still the lesser of two evils - but I wouldn't have liked if Djokovic had retired without being "dethroned" at any point

The lesser of two evils compared to...Rafael Nadal???

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Seanchan
07/16/23 2:16:45 PM
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It's a matter of seeing now if Alcaraz can truly grab the moniker of being the "next big thing" and carry on the legacy of domination from Federer, Nadal, and Djokovic. I know he's ranked #1 but the Slams are what matters, so in my mind he's really got to win at least 2 of the next 5 for me to think he's gotten to that level.

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TheManaSword
07/16/23 2:17:43 PM
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color me impressed

nice to have a younger player not just completely choke away an opportunity like this

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Crescent-Moon
07/16/23 2:36:04 PM
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That 27 minute game sure was something~

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ctesjbuvf
07/16/23 2:36:41 PM
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My country has been more interested in Tennis recently than in a while I feel, which is undoubtfully due to Holger Rune, same age as Alcarez. Hopefully he can keep being at top level.

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redrocket
07/16/23 2:37:19 PM
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XIII_Rocks posted...
Cool

I still need Djokovic to win a couple more sadly - despite the antivax stuff he's still the lesser of two evils

lesser of two evils compared to what?

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Crescent-Moon
07/16/23 2:37:28 PM
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redrocket posted...
lesser of two evils compares to what?


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Jakyl25
07/16/23 2:41:25 PM
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Margaret Court maybe?

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Emeraldegg
07/16/23 3:17:22 PM
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XIII is a nadal-hater I am 100% certain.

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colliding
07/16/23 3:20:58 PM
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I'm the king of the posting jinx.

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NeatoAnAccount
07/16/23 3:25:05 PM
#27:


Seanchan posted...
championship point...

did anyone else read this like

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXLFUbGx0jY&t=103s


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XIII_Rocks
07/16/23 3:48:05 PM
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Yeah it's the irrationality of sport

Djokovic did some shitty stuff and I'm less of a fan than I was, but ultimately he is not Nadal, who has plagued my interest in the sport for years. I can't stand the man.

I don't think Nadal has much claim to being better than Djokovic even if Nadal does come back and win two more before he retires - he is too concentrated around a single surface and has a multitude of early GS losses in the other three slams that help put him below Federer, never mind Djokovic.

But it's a bit like Messi vs. Ronaldo. Messi was so obviously the superior player to the majority of people that watch football; there is and was such a gulf between them. But Messi winning the World Cup removed any doubt, and that is now a finished discussion. Similarly, there's not much avenue to say Nadal > Djokovic now, but there'll be one if Nadal overtakes Djokovic's GS total. I don't want it to be inconclusive.

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colliding
07/16/23 6:03:27 PM
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I don't think Nadal wins another GS. I'm sure he's pushing for one more French Open for the storybook ending, but I think his body's just done.

By the numbers, there shouldn't even be a "big 3" anymore. It should just be Djokovic standing alone. But Federer is just too popular, and so the big 3 has to stick around as a talking point.

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XIII_Rocks
07/16/23 6:09:40 PM
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I don't think he has it in him either, but I've counted him out before. It's a hip thing atm though and those tend to be pretty bad

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Seanchan
07/16/23 6:25:41 PM
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Thing is, Federer, Nadal, and Djokovic would all very likely have so many more slams if either of the other 2 didn't exist. Yes, Nadal is miles ahead on clay but he'd have at least a few more Wimbledon and AO trophies without the other 2.

Djokovic should be able to pull 3-4-5-6 ahead without the other 2 there anymore. Same way Federer got so far ahead before the other 2 really joined the scene. Not to mention, didn't Federer and Nadal both all 3-4 more slams after reaching Djokovic current age?

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colliding
07/16/23 6:29:01 PM
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Djokovic would've had at least two more if not for a worldwide pandemic and his refusal to get vaccinated

he also has a few losses where nerves actually got to him (like that Medvedev loss)

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Jakyl25
07/16/23 7:39:46 PM
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colliding posted...
I don't think Nadal wins another GS. I'm sure he's pushing for one more French Open for the storybook ending, but I think his body's just done.

Yeah hes already said hes healing up so that he can make next season his farewell tour

If Rafael Nadal puts everything he has left, mind body and soul into one last French Open, I am not going to doubt he can pull it off, but thats his ceiling. One more.


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Thorn
07/16/23 11:55:22 PM
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Started watching during the second set and that sure went places. That 32 point game in the 3rd was ridiculous.

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