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GSWarriors-
06/25/23 3:04:26 PM
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What you guys think about this? It was all verbal until the dude viciously punches the lady then the son saw that and did what he had to do. Both mom and son are charged with murder

https://www.insideedition.com/chicago-mother-and-son-charged-with-murder-after-teen-shoots-man-who-hit-his-mom-during-argument

https://twitter.com/JaymalGreen/status/1672765396955348994
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MICHALECOLE
06/25/23 3:05:49 PM
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Sad.
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thronedfire2
06/25/23 3:17:55 PM
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it would be one thing if the kid didn't go outside to get the gun and come back. from the lights it looks like the cops are already there

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A_Good_Boy
06/25/23 3:20:49 PM
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That video looks like a case of self defense.

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deoxxys
06/25/23 3:22:24 PM
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I dont know if the story has any winners

The kid chased him down and finished him off, and the mom wanted him to shoot the guys girlfriend too after the fact.

Then not excusing the assault but the mom seemed like she was instigating, though theres not enough video to determine this.

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YourBestFrenemy
06/25/23 3:23:43 PM
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I think everyone lost.

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SpiritSephiroth
06/25/23 3:24:53 PM
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Apparently the mother told the son to shoot the witnesses too. If thats the case, holy shit that's messed up.

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ZannoL
06/25/23 3:25:28 PM
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deoxxys posted...
I dont know if the story has any winners

The kid chased him down and finished him off, and the mom wanted him to shoot the guys girlfriend too after the fact.

Then not excusing the assault but the mom seemed like she was instigating, though theres not enough video to determine this.
The fuck?
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ai123
06/25/23 3:26:20 PM
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Sufficient force to prevent injury or death.

Anything else is not acceptable.

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tremain07
06/25/23 3:26:34 PM
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Yeah no winners here 4 futures ruined over a heated moment.

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Vicious_Dios
06/25/23 3:31:15 PM
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Those comments, though.

Oof.

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YourBestFrenemy
06/25/23 3:37:59 PM
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Vicious_Dios posted...
Those comments, though.

Oof.

I mean,
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/2/0/AAegNYAAEBZw.jpg
amirite?

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MrDrMan
06/25/23 3:40:29 PM
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I dont understand why a grown ass man started punching that woman like that. I also dont understand why a grown woman would tell her son to execute the man.

Sad story all the way around. They might have got off on self defense had they not pursued the man after hed been shot and executed him. Unfortunately now all three lives are ruined forever:

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Heavy_D_Forever
06/25/23 3:42:54 PM
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Chicago is wild

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Have_A_Cigar
06/25/23 3:43:46 PM
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After a hit like that, I'd call it justifiable. A well placed punch in the temple kills someone, even if not at full force. Fists are deadly weapons.

I'm just thankful the kid had good aim and didn't hit an employee.

But it had to be while the person was still in danger. Otherwise, if the imminent threat is going or gone, it is murder.

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Xette33
06/25/23 3:44:29 PM
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I wonder what country this happened in.

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Requiem
06/25/23 3:50:06 PM
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SpiritSephiroth posted...
Apparently the mother told the son to shoot the witnesses too. If thats the case, holy shit that's messed up.

...beginning to sound less and less like a domestic violence and more and more like a family dispute.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/6/6/AAAgM2AAEmf6.jpg

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Noname12
06/25/23 3:53:24 PM
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deoxxys posted...
I dont know if the story has any winners

The kid chased him down and finished him off, and the mom wanted him to shoot the guys girlfriend too after the fact.

Then not excusing the assault but the mom seemed like she was instigating, though theres not enough video to determine this.

well this certainly changes everything


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NatsuSama
06/25/23 3:55:07 PM
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But we need more guns right?

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MICHALECOLE
06/25/23 4:08:18 PM
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NatsuSama posted...
But we need more guns right?
If everybody in that room had a gun, nobody would have gotten hurt
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Carljank
06/25/23 4:10:11 PM
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One bullet to get him to stop assaulting the mom is all it would have taken. This is murder.

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NatsuSama
06/25/23 4:12:57 PM
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MICHALECOLE posted...
If everybody in that room had a gun, nobody would have gotten hurt
In today's America, I can't tell if this is a serious statement.

Given the serious Republican argument for gun violence in America is, more guns.

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StarSpangled
06/25/23 4:13:07 PM
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Imagine losing a life and also killing someone over a fucking food dispute. Jesus fucking christ.

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Kai_Laguna
06/25/23 4:22:21 PM
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The dude absolutely deserved to be shot but yea, after the threat has been stopped there's no need for further violence.
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ai123
06/25/23 4:24:02 PM
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MICHALECOLE posted...
If everybody in that room had a gun, nobody would have gotten hurt
Bollocks.

People with guns are substantially more likely to be shot than those without.

'Results. After adjustment, individuals in possession of a gun were 4.46 (P < .05) times more likely to be shot in an assault than those not in possession. Among gun assaults where the victim had at least some chance to resist, this adjusted odds ratio increased to 5.45 (P < .05).
Conclusions. On average, guns did not protect those who possessed them from being shot in an assault. Although successful defensive gun uses occur each year, the probability of success may be low for civilian gun users in urban areas. Such users should reconsider their possession of guns or, at least, understand that regular possession necessitates careful safety countermeasures.'

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2759797/


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MICHALECOLE
06/25/23 4:29:01 PM
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NatsuSama posted...
In today's America, I can't tell if this is a serious statement.

Given the serious Republican argument for gun violence in America is, more guns.
It was not a serious argument, but you are right people would definitely say that seriously
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StateofZen
06/25/23 4:29:27 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/9/3/AAfM1sAAEmgV.png

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Nasty_Nitro
06/25/23 4:33:14 PM
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violent lives
ending violently

That guy triggered it by punching a woman. The shooter lost his fucking mind after it happened is what it sounds like

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MICHALECOLE
06/25/23 4:38:38 PM
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StateofZen posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/9/3/AAfM1sAAEmgV.png
Why did we edit out the name?
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Oh_Boy_
06/25/23 4:40:45 PM
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Accurate title: Woman starts fight in shitty food joint, texts son to bring a gun to kill people she was arguing with. Orders son to execute man after he fled, orders son to kill mans girlfriend and tried to take gun to kill the woman herself.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/0/7/AAY1wAAAEmgj.jpg
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A_Good_Boy
06/25/23 4:49:56 PM
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Oh_Boy_ posted...
Woman starts fight in shitty food joint
How do you know she started the fight? Just from that video alone you can see her getting punched in the face.

The rest of the altercation, where the boy pursued the attacker and then the mother encouraged her son to shoot the girlfriend is where it crosses the line from self defense to murder, but before that she was clearly in danger and was receiving several vicious blows to the head.

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Oh_Boy_
06/25/23 4:53:48 PM
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Thats better.
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Foppe
06/25/23 5:12:53 PM
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Now this is absurd.

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Agonized_rufous
06/25/23 5:19:03 PM
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Probably one of those things where the right answer was achieved using the wrong math...

Lots to unpack in this scenario. All shootings are fucked up in some way

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ZannoL
06/25/23 6:14:03 PM
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Agonized_rufous posted...
All shootings are fucked up in some way

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Noname12
06/26/23 2:16:22 PM
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Charges dropped

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Skankhair
06/26/23 2:25:09 PM
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MICHALECOLE posted...
If everybody in that room had a gun, nobody would have gotten hurt


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garan
06/26/23 3:09:34 PM
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deoxxys posted...
I dont know if the story has any winners

The kid chased him down and finished him off, and the mom wanted him to shoot the guys girlfriend too after the fact.

Then not excusing the assault but the mom seemed like she was instigating, though theres not enough video to determine this.


Yeah, that sounds like murder to me.
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GSWarriors-
06/26/23 7:23:37 PM
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I think this situation is like someone catching their wife/husband/boyfriend/girlfriend cheating then killing someone at that moment. Usually people get off serious charges with these types of killing cause they're not expecting these things to happen then when it happens they hurt others
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thronedfire2
06/26/23 7:27:07 PM
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GSWarriors- posted...
I think this situation is like someone catching their wife/husband/boyfriend/girlfriend cheating then killing someone at that moment. Usually people get off serious charges with these types of killing cause they're not expecting these things to happen then when it happens they hurt others

what? this isn't the same thing at all if she texted him to get a gun and shoot the guy and the kid chased him outside.

if you catch your wife cheating and go out to your car to get a gun and come back and kill them you're not getting off either

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Priere
06/26/23 7:27:51 PM
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Oh_Boy_ posted...
Woman starts fight in shitty food joint,
You dont have to call the place shitty. Its not their fault their clientele suck.

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Nasty_Nitro
06/26/23 7:30:11 PM
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Kid escalated the situation by chasing the dude down. You arent defending or protecting when you chase the guys down. Sounds like a frenzy of bloodlust, violent dominoes falling in place.

I cant fault him im glad my mom never put me in this spot because a dude punch my mom and im crashing out too.

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Vicious_Dios
06/26/23 7:43:47 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/9/1/AANub5AAEmuX.jpg


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haloiscoolisbak
06/26/23 7:48:34 PM
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SpiritSephiroth posted...
Apparently the mother told the son to shoot the witnesses too. If thats the case, holy shit that's messed up.


Damn

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famfam
06/26/23 7:50:04 PM
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the mom used the son to commit murder

very, very fucked up
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DarkProto05
06/26/23 7:51:23 PM
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First shot is fair. Chasing him down is murder.

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Sexypwnstar
06/26/23 7:54:34 PM
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Sounds like one of those Trumpers and racist fucks who carry a gun just trying to instigate a fight so they can shoot someone in retaliation

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Arcanine2009
06/26/23 11:23:54 PM
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Vicious_Dios posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/9/1/AANub5AAEmuX.jpg
Wtf. How. He chased him

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OzNarcissus
06/26/23 11:29:28 PM
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My favorite part is the mom telling her son to keep shooting once the guy is on the ground. What a city!

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pikakaeru
06/26/23 11:29:35 PM
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Noname12 posted...
Charges dropped
the hell?

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