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SHRlKE
06/23/23 6:45:51 AM
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Should we still go to the moon?


A lot of people suggesting these sorts of things should be outlawed. Especially in lieu of the amount of resources spent on the rescue. When you look at things like Apollo 13, Challenger tragedy and also Apollo 1 it seems space exploration is just as , if not more, unsafe. I think that should also be banned imo. What do you guys thing?

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Avirosb
06/23/23 6:47:13 AM
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I think we need to globally unify before we start tackling the space issue.
That's what they did in Star Trek, right?

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BurmesePenguin
06/23/23 6:47:25 AM
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Shit the fuck up!

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SHRlKE
06/23/23 7:58:02 AM
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Interesting results so far.

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Intro2Logic
06/23/23 8:00:18 AM
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Say what you will about the merits of spending money on space travel at a time of widening inequality, NASA could at least be expected to take the appropriate amount of care in ensuring the safety of its missions.

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SpawnShadow
06/23/23 8:04:27 AM
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No. If anything, we should encourage rich assholes to build their own personal rockets and to cut corners doing so, then invite their rich asshole pals to join them in their recreation of the Challenger.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
06/23/23 8:09:33 AM
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Intro2Logic posted...
NASA could at least be expected to take the appropriate amount of care in ensuring the safety of its missions.

After the early (most before it was even called NASA) accidents, NASA has had an incredible culture of safety. Challenger really reset the way they operated since then.

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StrongerDoggo
06/23/23 8:26:30 AM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
After the early (most before it was even called NASA) accidents, NASA has had an incredible culture of safety. Challenger really reset the way they operated since then.

A.K.A. When your employees are warning you about a problem, take the issue at hand seriously.

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Anarchy_Juiblex
06/23/23 8:29:10 AM
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StrongerDoggo posted...
A.K.A. When your employees are warning you about a problem, take the issue at hand seriously.

100%
Pretty sure if they ever tried to go on with a crewed mission against recommendations there would be a lynching in mission control. That will never happen again without generations of mismanagement.

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Compsognathus
06/23/23 8:35:33 AM
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A bunch of rich people dying on a completely unnecessary commercial space flight is an inevitably. I just hope that when it happens, it doesn't involve dragging any of their family members with them and it's quick and easily observed. And not like "we missed the target and now we are blasting off into space where we will suffocate and our disappearance will be without closure."

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Avirosb
06/23/23 8:38:37 AM
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Compsognathus posted...
A bunch of rice people dying on a completely unnecessary commercial space flight is an inevitably.

Well not to be ricist but I doubt we'd miss a couple of those.
:P

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Anarchy_Juiblex
06/23/23 8:38:46 AM
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Compsognathus posted...
A bunch of rice people dying on . . .

that's racist.


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Compsognathus
06/23/23 8:40:40 AM
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Oh for fuck sake, autocorrect.

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Avirosb
06/23/23 8:42:35 AM
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Who's to say rice haven't attained sentience by then v(._.)v

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derp420
06/23/23 8:44:51 AM
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Topic title and poll title ask opposite questions. Probably skewing the results.

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Nukazie
06/23/23 8:48:20 AM
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SpawnShadow posted...
No. If anything, we should encourage rich assholes to build their own personal rockets and to cut corners doing so, then invite their rich asshole pals to join them in their recreation of the Challenger.


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mercurydude
06/23/23 9:06:28 AM
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SHRlKE posted...
A lot of people suggesting these sorts of things should be outlawed. Especially in lieu of the amount of resources spent on the rescue. When you look at things like Apollo 13, Challenger tragedy and also Apollo 1 it seems space exploration is just as , if not more, unsafe. I think that should also be banned imo. What do you guys thing?

The problem with this comparison is, like James Cameron pointed out, this isn't some brave new world the Titan was breaking ground in. It's a well worn path and they know how to make submersibles safe and have done for decades... the guy running the company just didn't think it was worth the expense to do so.

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emblem-man
06/23/23 9:07:40 AM
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SpawnShadow posted...
No. If anything, we should encourage rich assholes to build their own personal rockets and to cut corners doing so, then invite their rich asshole pals to join them in their recreation of the Challenger.

Wtf man

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Hayame_Zero
06/23/23 9:10:24 AM
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SpawnShadow posted...
No. If anything, we should encourage rich assholes to build their own personal rockets and to cut corners doing so, then invite their rich asshole pals to join them in their recreation of the Challenger.
Disgusting.

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MisterPengy
06/23/23 9:30:13 AM
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There's a huge difference between a dangerous pleasure cruise and doing risky things for the sake of progress/exploration/research.

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KTG2
06/23/23 9:32:54 AM
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We got like 2600 more billionaires to get rid of. Fire up all the homemade rockets.

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R_Jackal
06/23/23 9:34:42 AM
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I think we should ban stupid tourist shit like unregulated submarines or tourist space flights that serve really no purpose aside from people getting kicks off of the thrill of possible death.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
06/23/23 9:39:38 AM
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R_Jackal posted...
I think we should ban stupid tourist shit like unregulated submarines or tourist space flights that serve really no purpose aside from people getting kicks off of the thrill of possible death.

Fuck that. Under who's jurisdiction?
And the thrill of those things aren't the possibility of death, it was to see the Titanic, or experience real weightlessness.

This is all sour grapes I'm poor boohoo shit. Start by banning sky diving, bungee jumping, and shit that kills more than... 5 or so a year, if you actually want to save lives.

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Kloe_Rinz
06/23/23 9:40:03 AM
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They should ban tourist trips to space. Not research trips though
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Avirosb
06/23/23 9:42:02 AM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Fuck that. Under who's jurisdiction?

Probably the same one that regulates air space and outlaws flying cars.


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UnholyMudcrab
06/23/23 9:45:03 AM
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That is not what the phrase "in lieu of" means.

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TonyKojima
06/23/23 9:45:11 AM
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Only government sanctioned missions should be allowed. We need to shut down all private space ventures. I have maintained this position from the start

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Lobinde
06/23/23 10:02:38 AM
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This would be like asking "Should we ban trains because of plane crashes?"

Deep sea and space exploration are completely different things.
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masterpug53
06/23/23 10:10:52 AM
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In both cases, professionals with years of training / expertise / discipline shouldn't be hindered by this; casual tourism fueled by hubristic corner-cutters should absolutely have the hammer brought down on them. Honestly I'm still flabbergasted to learn that the latter even exists in the first place for deep-sea exploration.

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TonyKojima
06/23/23 10:12:17 AM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Fuck that. Under who's jurisdiction?
And the thrill of those things aren't the possibility of death, it was to see the Titanic, or experience real weightlessness.

This is all sour grapes I'm poor boohoo shit. Start by banning sky diving, bungee jumping, and shit that kills more than... 5 or so a year, if you actually want to save lives.
The government. SpaceX and Blue Origin should be seized by the government.

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uwnim
06/23/23 10:15:38 AM
#31:


We should go to the moon.

Also, I hate it when the question in the topic and the poll question are opposite.

Accidentally voted no because the right answer to the topic title was no. -_-

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toreysback
06/23/23 10:17:12 AM
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Streets full of people
All alone
Roads full of houses
Never home
Church full of singing
Out of tune
Everyone's gone to the moon

Eyes full of sorrow
Never wet
Hands full of money
All in debt
Sun coming out in
The middle of June
Everyone's gone to the moon

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Avirosb
06/23/23 10:18:59 AM
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uwnim posted...
We should go to the moon.

A libertarian haven where each breath will cost you.

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R_Jackal
06/23/23 11:06:57 AM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Fuck that. Under who's jurisdiction?
And the thrill of those things aren't the possibility of death, it was to see the Titanic, or experience real weightlessness.

This is all sour grapes I'm poor boohoo shit. Start by banning sky diving, bungee jumping, and shit that kills more than... 5 or so a year, if you actually want to save lives.
I like how you know jack shit about me and assume I'm poor. Granted, I do have a unique perspective on these things as I did grow up basically homeless. Now, I'm nowhere near the realm of our corporate overlords but I do well for myself now.

I know there's little benefit in these industries outside of appeasing those at the very top, but at the same time they still generally cut every corner possible to maximize profits. All to see some worthless rotting metal, whose story had long since come and gone, or to play at grandeur above the clouds when you already got pretty much everything that can be offered on Earth. I just don't see the merit.

If life is so boring, you haven't lived enough. If you've done so much you can't find joy in the present, you just need some help. Especially in a position to make it better instead of just placating yourself.
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SHRlKE
06/23/23 11:14:12 AM
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R_Jackal posted...
I think we should ban stupid tourist shit like unregulated submarines or tourist space flights that serve really no purpose aside from people getting kicks off of the thrill of possible death.

Are we assuming that the government would do a better job? After things like the challenger or Apollo 1? It sucks and they definitively sounded like they cut corners but this isn't a government vs free market thing.

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Avirosb
06/23/23 11:17:04 AM
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The government shouldn't do tourism either.

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TheGoldenEel
06/23/23 11:21:57 AM
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Intro2Logic posted...
Say what you will about the merits of spending money on space travel at a time of widening inequality, NASA could at least be expected to take the appropriate amount of care in ensuring the safety of its missions.

Sorry, it won't let me make this post without including this link
https://twitter.com/chiller/status/1671779333784961024?t=AZQwCF2jHjz3R2MIl5FeaA&s=19

didnt even use a fucking torque wrench my god

or the proper torque pattern either

this is basic stuff

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SHRlKE
06/23/23 11:24:38 AM
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TheGoldenEel posted...
didnt even use a fucking torque wrench my god

or the proper torque pattern either

this is basic stuff

What are you on about? I've seen multiple sauces saying they use a torque wrench at the end of tightening the bolts.

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TheGoldenEel
06/23/23 11:30:58 AM
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SHRlKE posted...
What are you on about? I've seen multiple sauces saying they use a torque wrench at the end of tightening the bolts.
nah Im mistaken here, the second part of the video is a torque wrench

still doesnt look like theyre using proper sequence tho

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BB_mofo
06/24/23 9:16:03 AM
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The mental thing is that just yesterday the company's YouTube Channel published a new promotional video showing off previous Titanic dive footage while stressing the safety of their subs. I suspect many of the new comments showing positive support for the company and stressing how cool it would be to visit the wreck are from bots. The other co-founder seems to be really serious about trying to salvage his company's reputation.

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apolloooo
06/24/23 9:19:57 AM
#41:


Intro2Logic posted...
Say what you will about the merits of spending money on space travel at a time of widening inequality, NASA could at least be expected to take the appropriate amount of care in ensuring the safety of its missions.

Sorry, it won't let me make this post without including this link
https://twitter.com/chiller/status/1671779333784961024?t=AZQwCF2jHjz3R2MIl5FeaA&s=19
Oh fucking lmao my ass.

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Oh_Boy_
06/24/23 9:31:38 AM
#42:


Kloe_Rinz posted...
They should ban tourist trips to space. Not research trips though
Basically. Tourist trips to places man cannot live yet/anymore are cash grabs and dangerous. My ex wanted to complete her travel baucket list to all continents so she wanted us to go to Antarctica. Obviously I refused to pay 10K for that shit and suggested Dubai, Tokyo or something else.

Anyway she ended up going after we broke up but was delayed by a year. She had to fly to Chile during the protests/uprising. Fly to some dinky research tanker and take essentially a life boat to shore. Barren land, dangerous trip every step of the way. She made it back but the group tha went after hers lost 5 people. Yes, 5 people died. Shitty life boat capsizes and two old people die. She didnt mention the other 3s cause of death, probably got got by leopard seals or some shit.
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Vegy
06/24/23 9:44:22 AM
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Yes but not because of safety or whatever, but because it's a huge waste of time and money

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HBOSS
06/24/23 9:48:49 AM
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Nah as long as safety if strictly followed its fine. Imagine building a custom spaceship with industry standard specs and safety standards. Sure itll cost time and money but its yours that gets to the moon and back safely.

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