Poll of the Day > Submarine with 5 passengers going to visit the Titanic wreck goes missing.

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Cacciato posted...

holy shit

i mean, I guess it makes sense since its Blink 182. But still lol

I thought he was in his early 20s when he first arrived into this story

DiScOrDtHeLuNaTiC posted...

With this company, yeah.

If I was going to do this (and issues of money aside, that's a very big if), I'd only do it with James Cameron's tech. We know it works and is safe.

The downside to James Cameron's tech is that his submersibles only hold one or two people. That's not very profitable for tourism.

big fan of Blink-182 guy

ReturnOfFa posted...

big fan of Blink-182 guy

He's like a living SNL sketch

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lol

There's nothing inherently wrong with thrill seeking and pushing yourself to the limits. But there is something wrong with deliberately refusing to be smart about it.

Krow_Incarnate posted...

This is like the Challenger and Titanic, but this time the careless Billionaire was dumb enough to be caught on his own deathtrap.

Aside from the 19 year-old, there's a happy ending to be found here.

With the titanic, it was a bunch of people taking a maiden voyage on a new ship. Rich and poor alike perished due to a whole lot of bad decisions on the crew's part, and outdated safety standards. You guys ought to read A Night to Remember, which has a lot of authentic survivor's accounts. It's interesting and informative.

I don't know what went down with the challenger, so I can't say anything about it.

Lil_Bit83 posted...

With the titanic, it was a bunch of people taking a maiden voyage on a new ship. Rich and poor alike perished due to a whole lot of bad decisions on the crew's part, and outdated safety standards. You guys ought to read A Night to Remember, which has a lot of authentic survivor's accounts. It's interesting and informative.

I don't know what went down with the challenger, so I can't say anything about it.

Challenger (if that guy was talking about the space shuttle) had a known and well-documented issue with the seals between segments of the booster rockets losing effectiveness at low temperatures (like the day it launched). Engineers warned their bosses, but the bosses overruled them because Reagan was going to give a speech that night about the space program.

When the main shuttle engines fired (the ones on the shuttle itself), one of the booster seals broke a little from the sympathetic motion and eventually, burning fuel got through it, burned through one of the struts holding the booster to the fuel tank, and boom.

Lil_Bit83 posted...

There's nothing inherently wrong with thrill seeking and pushing yourself to the limits. But there is something wrong with deliberately refusing to be smart about it.

Exactly. I don't doubt we have the capabilities of building proper tour subs, but this...thing was a death trap and the only possible logic behind it was if it were a convoluted pre-meditated murder/suicide.

Blue_Thunder posted...

Welp, hope this serves as a cautionary tale for future generations.

personally i kind of hope more billionaires like him pick up this hobby.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/7/0/AAFUswAAEl9m.jpg

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/22/us/titan-submersible-navy-acoustic-sensors.html

The U.S. Navy, using data from a secret network of underwater sensors designed to track hostile submarines, detected an anomaly consistent with an implosion or explosion in the vicinity of the Titan submersible at the time communications with the vessel were lost on Sunday, two senior Navy officials said on Thursday.

So they knew it was gone, but still brought out all their toys to play and kept peoples hopes up.

BlackScythe0 posted...

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/22/us/titan-submersible-navy-acoustic-sensors.html

The U.S. Navy, using data from a secret network of underwater sensors designed to track hostile submarines, detected an anomaly consistent with an implosion or explosion in the vicinity of the Titan submersible at the time communications with the vessel were lost on Sunday, two senior Navy officials said on Thursday.

So they knew it was gone, but still brought out all their toys to play and kept peoples hopes up.

It's more that when you've got at least two billionaire families wanting answers, "We don't think there's an appreciable chance they survived" isn't an acceptable answer.

Of course, those billionaire families are only too happy to let taxpayers of several countries foot the bill, consuming resources that could have been used to save significantly more than 5 lives, but that's just how billionaires do.

More info about the son:
https://news.sky.com/story/titan-submersible-student-19-killed-was-terrified-before-trip-but-went-as-a-fathers-day-present-12908074

Blue_Thunder posted...

More info about the son:
https://news.sky.com/story/titan-submersible-student-19-killed-was-terrified-before-trip-but-went-as-a-fathers-day-present-12908074

Success then?

he wanted the adventure of a lifetime just like his father did.

Also about 200-500 teenagers died in Ukraine today.

BlackScythe0 posted...

So they knew it was gone, but still brought out all their toys to play and kept peoples hopes up.

Because the billionaires wanted it to go on as a "rescue" operation for as long as possible. Once it's confirmed their are no lives to save it becomes a "salvage" operation and taxpayer money won't pay for that.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/5/7/AAQwHjAAEmAh.jpg

SinisterSlay posted...

Also about 200-500 teenagers died in Ukraine today.

There's an ongoing Russia-Ukraine war topic on CE if you're interested.

is anyone really surprised the american corpo-media-political system focuses on only that which distracts from real issues

Not sure where some of ya'll source your news but there's articles in the NYT and on BBC, AP, Reuters, NPR etc almost daily about Ukraine and those migrants lost at sea. Complete bullshit that those issues are being ignored by news outlets in favor of the submarine story.

Did the submarine take top billing in the headlines for a few days? Sure. But if anyone is looking for reports on other issues, those reports are very much out there. Sounds to me like some of you need to source your news better. Instead of following headlines, try looking for the news you're seeking.

captpackrat posted...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/5/7/AAQwHjAAEmAh.jpg

Don't worry, our war on the Ocean is largely successful... soon nothing will live there

MeatiestMeatus posted...

Not sure where some of ya'll source your news but there's articles in the NYT and on BBC, AP, Reuters, NPR etc almost daily about Ukraine and those migrants lost at sea. Complete bullshit that those issues are being ignored by news outlets in favor of the submarine story.

Did the submarine take top billing in the headlines for a few days? Sure. But if anyone is looking for reports on other issues, those reports are very much out there. Sounds to me like some of you need to source your news better. Instead of following headlines, try looking for the news you're seeking.

people are thick as bricks

and also

just maybe

it's fun to make fun of stupid rich people, and not fun to talk about children dying

Anyone trying to make me feel bad for laughing at this is wasting their time lmao. I don't feel sympathy or empathy for any billionaire because they bascially aren't people. I feel bad for the 19 year old that got killed by his dad and that's it.

Jen0125 posted...

Anyone trying to make me feel bad for laughing at this is wasting their time lmao. I don't feel sympathy or empathy for any billionaire because they bascially aren't people. I feel bad for the 19 year old that got killed by his dad and that's it.

I'm not sure why people keep calling out the 19 year old, he was an adult, he could have said no.

yeah my sympathy wanes lol. daddy didn't force him. could've been at a concert!

rjsilverthorn posted...

I'm not sure why people keep calling out the 19 year old, he was an adult, he could have said no.

19 year olds are honestly not really adults though. Only by law

OhhhJa posted...

19 year olds are honestly not really adults though. Only by law

I was rather capable of deciding whether or not I wanted to go to the bottom of the ocean at the age of 19.

There's a reason all movies kill the teenagers first

ReturnOfFa posted...

I was rather capable of deciding whether or not I wanted to go to the bottom of the ocean at the age of 19.

Yeah I was capable of that decision at 15 as well but doesn't mean you're a mature adult

It takes a hell of cynic to not feel bad about a 19 year old's life coming to an end because he followed his dipshit daddy to the depths of the ocean

OhhhJa posted...

It takes a hell of cynic to not feel bad about a 19 year old's life coming to an end because he followed his dipshit daddy to the depths of the ocean

I feel like we're all pretty desensitized.
Imagine living in America, there's a school shooting every few days it seems. How can you not get desensitized when that's your reality?

Apparently the 19 year old was terrified about going and only did so because of pressure from his dad.
https://news.yahoo.com/19-old-titan-passenger-terrified-223814349.html?.tsrc=daily_mail&uh_test=0_00

well I'm sure glad I got to the level of telling my mommy and daddy that I'm not coming on every trip with them by that age

ReturnOfFa posted...

yeah my sympathy wanes lol. daddy didn't force him. could've been at a concert!

Parental pressure is a real thing. His dad framed it as a father's day gift. His son was trying to be what he thought was a good son to his father. Kids that age don't think their own parents will lead them to their deaths negligently.

Jen0125 posted...

Parental pressure is a real thing. His dad framed it as a father's day gift. His son was trying to be what he thought was a good son to his father. Kids that age don't think their own parents will lead them to their deaths negligently.

I definitely have family that gives a lot of pressure, and it's awful. I still think 'bottom of the ocean' is a pretty big deal that you can say 'fuck no' to. Obviously the kid gets the most of my sympathy.

ReturnOfFa posted...

family that gives a lot of pressure

Ayyyyy

MeatiestMeatus posted...

Did the submarine take top billing in the headlines for a few days? Sure. But if anyone is looking for reports on other issues, those reports are very much out there. Sounds to me like some of you need to source your news better. Instead of following headlines, try looking for the news you're seeking.

That's kind of the issue. Nobody's complaining that they can't find news on all of the other tragic deaths that happened at the same time, they're complaining that these 5 people (at least four of whom were likely horrible) who voluntarily took an extreme risk and ended up dying for it are being given more public attention than hundreds of others dying in far more tragic circumstances. Of particular note is how much money was spent trying to confirm the fate of these five people (and how much more would have been spent recovering the sub had it been found intact), given that that same money could have saved considerably more than 0 lives if allocated toward any of those other tragedies.

lol at all people complaining about billionaires while they work and spend their paychecks lining the same billionaires pockets

https://www.thedailybeast.com/titanic-submarine-dan-crenshaw-naturally-tries-to-blame-the-white-house

it's joe biden's fault, guys.

how did we miss it

potdnewb posted...

lol at all people complaining about billionaires while they work and spend their paychecks lining the same billionaires pockets

Oh yes the ol oh you wish to change society for the better yet you still participate in society, how curious bullshit that the Im 12 and this is deep types think is an argument.

Jen0125 posted...

https://www.thedailybeast.com/titanic-submarine-dan-crenshaw-naturally-tries-to-blame-the-white-house

it's joe biden's fault, guys.

how did we miss it

I'd almost expect them to arbitrarily blame Pete Buttigieg lmfao

papercup posted...

Oh yes the ol oh you wish to change society for the better yet you still participate in society, how curious bullshit that the Im 12 and this is deep types think is an argument.

the exact response id expect from an iphone user that grocery shops at walmart and gets Amazon deliveries daily while working for microsoft and investing in spacex

Jen0125 posted...

https://www.thedailybeast.com/titanic-submarine-dan-crenshaw-naturally-tries-to-blame-the-white-house

it's joe biden's fault, guys.

how did we miss it

That motherfucker literally said the sound of the implosion could have been the sound of it hitting the floor, like we wouldnt hear thousands of whales doing the same goddamn thing every year.

adjl posted...

f it is actually just a bunch of billionaires and the company's CEO who cut corners to make a quick buck, I'm less concerned.

Human life is human life dude...

https://www.insider.com/oceangate-ceo-said-titan-made-old-material-bought-boeing-report-2023-6?amp

potdnewb posted...

the exact response id expect from an iphone user that grocery shops at walmart and gets Amazon deliveries daily while working for microsoft and investing in spacex

lol

please feel free to laugh if I'm killed by a diaper truck