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SupermanLost 06/14/23 10:09:58 AM #1: |
https://twitter.com/SYACVG/status/1668751616240136193 https://twitter.com/Vara_Dark/status/1668837210253152260 https://twitter.com/Grummz/status/1668977856138088448 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KTG2 06/14/23 10:13:35 AM #2: |
This is a stupid fake controversy, but I really think a guy working at Blizzard in the era that Grummz did maybe ought to just take a seat whenever an issue involving the treatment of women comes up, idk Just poor optics there homie --- ADHD/ASD/Non-Binary. they/them. I stream on twitch. Your hateful comments will be used as fuel for my LGBT conversion engine. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SaikyoStyle 06/14/23 10:15:10 AM #3: |
Whoever wrote that probably doesnt believe it. They just know what generates engagement. --- Taxes, death, and trouble. Brunt/Gaila 2024. Make Ferenginar Great Again! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zorux 06/14/23 10:15:38 AM #4: |
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/0/5/AAbekMAAEkQx.jpg --- b-b-but MY OPINION > YOUR OPINION. P.S.: MY OPINION = FACT ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BurmesePenguin 06/14/23 10:16:04 AM #5: |
I don't understand what people think they're proving when someone says "z does not have enough x" and they reply by listing a number of xes within z. I guess that's what happens when matters of statistical analysis are discussed on twitter. Not that Kotaku are correct about anything. --- Sigful User Logic ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CoyoteTheGreat 06/14/23 10:18:07 AM #6: |
So they wrote an article about backlash against women protaganists (Something you can find just five seconds of searching in any Steam forum), and then a bunch of gamergater incels immediately proved the article right. This topic is going to bring all the The Quarterpounder fans out of the woodwork too I bet. Can you imagine looking at that very obese incel who works himself up into a right wing fury over the stupidest fucking fake controversies and thinking, "What an aspirational figure, this is a very intelligent man who I must consume all the youtube videos of". --- Disobedience is the stamp of the hero. -Ragnar Redbeard Also, this is Kagata.. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Poorly 06/14/23 10:35:58 AM #7: |
CoyoteTheGreat posted... So they wrote an article about backlash against women protaganists (Something you can find just five seconds of searching in any Steam forum), and then a bunch of gamergater incels immediately proved the article right.https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/4/6/AAfRsCAAEgK6.jpg --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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s0nicfan 06/14/23 10:39:18 AM #8: |
SaikyoStyle posted... Whoever wrote that probably doesnt believe it. They just know what generates engagement. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ai123 06/14/23 10:41:54 AM #9: |
When people stop having an aneurysm over women or minorities in videogames, then we will know they have reached sufficient numbers. This only happens when it is so commonplace as to be not worth remarking on. --- (We Don't Need This) Fascist Groove Thang ... Copied to Clipboard!
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deoxxys 06/14/23 10:56:18 AM #10: |
I mean seems like most protagonists these days are women. Also I love how they are trying to spin the "woman of color" angle as well, as if the character doesnt look similar to dozens of girls you could see in every city in America. Shes very ambiguously brown. --- twylite sprinkle http://tinyurl.com/jeqyas3 https://tinyurl.com/mgvx7h2 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DipDipDiver 06/14/23 11:26:38 AM #11: |
CoyoteTheGreat posted... So they wrote an article about backlash against women protaganists (Something you can find just five seconds of searching in any Steam forum), and then a bunch of gamergater incels immediately proved the article right.This is what I gathered from it as well ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Murphiroth 06/14/23 11:30:17 AM #12: |
deoxxys posted... I mean seems like most protagonists these days are women. Citation needed. CoyoteTheGreat posted... So they wrote an article about backlash against women protaganists (Something you can find just five seconds of searching in any Steam forum), and then a bunch of gamergater incels immediately proved the article right. Yep. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AmericaTheBrave 06/14/23 11:34:23 AM #13: |
Respect women, but I do have to wonder how many women protagonists we need before people stop saying "we need more women protaginists." Women protagonists are not rare at all anymore. The good fight has been fought, you can lay down your weapons. --- https://imgur.com/h74Kc6W ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TonyKojima 06/14/23 11:36:56 AM #14: |
Wait you think Kotaku is in the wrong? Are you serious???? --- Though the XBOX 360 is good in theory, it's hardware limitations say otherwise - Hideo Kojima ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Funkydog 06/14/23 11:37:41 AM #15: |
Why do these chuds make me want to defend fucking Kotaku. --- Let's make biscuits! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NeonTentacles 06/14/23 11:37:51 AM #16: |
Remember when Kotaku accused Persona 5 of having a song with the r-word in the lyrics (when it clearly didn't)? Remember when some reviewer on Kotaku would literally cover his eyes everytime someone in a swimsuit was on screen in Yakuza 0? https://imgur.com/DDfDw4H Remember when Kotaku told everyone to pirate Metroid Dread and got blacklisted by Nintendo? tl;dr lolkotaku --- https://imgur.com/aMaI3hj https://imgur.com/7PsdJNc https://imgur.com/eK8vZVn https://imgur.com/u2HR4nG https://imgur.com/nQGM5cZ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ai123 06/14/23 11:39:43 AM #17: |
AmericaTheBrave posted... Respect women, but I do have to wonder how many women protagonists we need before people stop saying "we need more women protaginists." Women protagonists are not rare at all anymore. The good fight has been fought, you can lay down your weapons.The fight is over when people stop being snowflakes about 'women and minorities in my videogames'. It's not about the number of female protagonists, it's about the reaction to them. --- (We Don't Need This) Fascist Groove Thang ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Poorly 06/14/23 11:40:00 AM #18: |
R-word? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ivynn 06/14/23 11:40:21 AM #19: |
Kotaku is big dumb --- http://i.imgur.com/vDci4hD.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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dave_is_slick 06/14/23 11:41:22 AM #20: |
I know people aren't trying to pretend they're right. --- The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NeonTentacles 06/14/23 11:41:45 AM #21: |
Poorly posted... R-word? Fill in the blank: That wall is fire-______ant and won't burn. --- https://imgur.com/aMaI3hj https://imgur.com/7PsdJNc https://imgur.com/eK8vZVn https://imgur.com/u2HR4nG https://imgur.com/nQGM5cZ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LordFarquad1312 06/14/23 11:43:32 AM #22: |
Kotaku articles are probably written by an AI by the dozens, who cares. Just stop listening to them like most people and anyone who matters in the video game industry. --- El sexo sucio y el planeta limpio. "If you are tired of fear from links... Let Kirby's Nightmare protect you." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bigpapaplut 06/14/23 11:43:40 AM #23: |
Kotaku needs to fuck off forever already --- This is my sig ... Copied to Clipboard!
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dave_is_slick 06/14/23 11:43:54 AM #24: |
ai123 posted... The fight is over when people stop being snowflakes about 'women and minorities in my videogames'.That's never gonna happen. The realistic fight is over since the overreactions are not normalized. --- The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 06/14/23 11:45:41 AM #25: |
Nobody pitched a fit over Shantae. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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rynobot 06/14/23 11:46:16 AM #26: |
More women the better --- GT: rynobot ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ivynn 06/14/23 11:47:10 AM #27: |
Questionmarktarius posted... Nobody pitched a fit over Shantae. They pitched something alright tho ayyyy --- http://i.imgur.com/vDci4hD.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 06/14/23 11:49:00 AM #28: |
ai123 posted... When people stop having an aneurysm over women or minorities in videogames, then we will know they have reached sufficient numbers.I don't recall anyone pitching a fit over Dandara, other whining about the bizarre control scheme. ...or Alien Isolation ...or Portal ...or Touhou ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NeonTentacles 06/14/23 11:51:56 AM #29: |
Ivynn posted... They pitched something alright tho ayyyyHellz yeah! --- https://imgur.com/aMaI3hj https://imgur.com/7PsdJNc https://imgur.com/eK8vZVn https://imgur.com/u2HR4nG https://imgur.com/nQGM5cZ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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deoxxys 06/14/23 11:53:23 AM #30: |
Funkydog posted... Why do these chuds make me want to defend fucking Kotaku.*Funkydog needs to sort out their priorities https://youtu.be/_oVnrq-6GnY --- twylite sprinkle http://tinyurl.com/jeqyas3 https://tinyurl.com/mgvx7h2 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nok_Su_Kow 06/14/23 11:55:34 AM #31: |
Woman of color protagonist- fine. Another plucky Disney ride protagonist - fuck that. Like seriously, Boba Fett's Scooter Gang vibes from this main character. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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divot1338 06/14/23 11:57:38 AM #32: |
Outlaw, please? Im a smuggler. --- Moustache twirling villian https://i.imgur.com/U3lt3H4.jpg- Kerbey ... Copied to Clipboard!
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refmon 06/14/23 12:09:07 PM #33: |
Nok_Su_Kow posted... Woman of color protagonist- fine. --- If you read this signature, then that meant that I had control of what you read for 5 SECONDS!! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Funkydog 06/14/23 12:13:27 PM #34: |
deoxxys posted... *Funkydog needs to sort out their prioritiesI never said I actually would. Just that their idiocy only proves Kotaku right for once. --- Let's make biscuits! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doe 06/14/23 12:16:55 PM #35: |
Are we really back to like 2013 gamergate and pretending that men and women have equal protagonist representation in aaa gaming? --- https://imgur.com/gallery/dXDmJHw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75GL-BYZFfY ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DipDipDiver 06/14/23 12:21:22 PM #36: |
Doe posted... Are we really back to like 2013 gamergate and pretending that men and women have equal protagonist representation in aaa gaming?But something something kotaku bad ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Supaitwo 06/14/23 12:22:11 PM #37: |
DipDipDiver posted... But something something kotaku bad They are objectively bad. --- After 25 years he's the very best like no one ever was. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TendoDRM 06/14/23 12:24:51 PM #38: |
--- Cel Damage! Tonight at 8:00! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Prestoff 06/14/23 12:28:50 PM #39: |
This is such a non-troversy, but so is most things on twitter... or the internet in general. --- DI MOLTO! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ThanksUglyGod 06/14/23 12:29:46 PM #40: |
Honestly SYACVG is just as bad Kotaku. Just willfully misinterpreting shit just to fuel Kotaku hatred. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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dancing_cactuar 06/14/23 12:32:43 PM #41: |
NeonTentacles posted... Remember when Kotaku told everyone to pirate Metroid Dread and got blacklisted by Nintendo?You forgot the part where they were so mad about not getting an advanced copy from Nintendo that they decided to spoil ToTK by writing an article on all the leaks that were spilling out and proceeded to post a pic on Twitter of a WWII bomber that went for Japanese cities and basically went "mfw I don't get a video game early". --- Believing that Disney movies are for families is akin to buying into Nazi propaganda- LoyalToTheGame PS5s have liquid metal tech like the T-1000- AceCombatX ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 06/14/23 12:33:43 PM #42: |
TendoDRM posted... 1. There was backlash to the game? I thought it was pretty well received."News" today is largely just plopping three or four tweets on a webpage stating "some twitter randos tweeted things!" and putting ads around it. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DipDipDiver 06/14/23 12:35:46 PM #43: |
Supaitwo posted... They are objectively bad.Which in no way refutes the premise of the article ... Copied to Clipboard!
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s0nicfan 06/14/23 12:36:04 PM #44: |
Doe posted... Are we really back to like 2013 gamergate and pretending that men and women have equal protagonist representation in aaa gaming? Given that I'm willing to bet 99% of the people in this topic have no idea what the actual representation is, why don't we look at the actual data? https://diamondlobby.com/geeky-stuff/female-representation-in-games/ Summary:
Here is their methodology: We studied every game released in 2022, according to Game Informers game release schedule, between January 1st and May 18th (the date we published our research). This does not include every tiny indie game released into the world, but includes the vast majority of major titles and a large number of indie games too, across PC and consoles, and includes games developed all over the world. Now, I guess you can argue that 45% of major games released in 2022 isn't parity, but given that estimates put women at 48% of gamers, that seems pretty damn close. Some will note that they did a different study last year only looking at "main character" breakdown in the 10 highest selling games from each year, but they removed any games that let you customize a character. That study put the number at 27.7% female representation among main characters. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 06/14/23 12:40:26 PM #45: |
s0nicfan posted... We started by eliminating every game that was a re-release, remaster, or had previously been released on a different console.Aw... It would have been hilarious to see Kotaku squirm over Seven Pirates. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NeonTentacles 06/14/23 12:42:23 PM #46: |
dancing_cactuar posted... You forgot the part where they were so mad about not getting an advanced copy from Nintendo that they decided to spoil ToTK by writing an article on all the leaks that were spilling out and proceeded to post a pic on Twitter of a WWII bomber that went for Japanese cities and basically went "mfw I don't get a video game early".Oh shit, I forgot about that LOL --- https://imgur.com/aMaI3hj https://imgur.com/7PsdJNc https://imgur.com/eK8vZVn https://imgur.com/u2HR4nG https://imgur.com/nQGM5cZ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doe 06/14/23 12:42:37 PM #47: |
s0nicfan posted... Summary:Excluding remakes and remasters, which are a huge portion of the current market, is bad methodology. They had to exclude over 50% of new releases to get this result. You're not going to pretend Resident Evil 4 isn't a top three most talked about game of the year so far, are you? It's unsound logic that ignores the fact that the industry and market are so reliant on remakes right now and thus that decade(s) old, male-dominated IPs are still very much the face of the industry. The fact they can barely squeeze out that result after culling so much data is itself damning. --- https://imgur.com/gallery/dXDmJHw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75GL-BYZFfY ... Copied to Clipboard!
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boomgetchopped3 06/14/23 12:44:47 PM #48: |
I like to think Ive learned to separate true progressive values from click bait. Which is why I avoid Kotaku. Shame because it was the reason I originally left gfaqs. Back in the day it was the place to be ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ImagineUsngAlts 06/14/23 12:45:42 PM #49: |
Clickbaitaku vs capital g Gamers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKdJ6DnPhzk --- Don't trust the ones below level 33 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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s0nicfan 06/14/23 12:46:46 PM #50: |
Doe posted... Excluding remakes and remasters, which are a huge portion of the current market, is bad methodology. They had to exclude over 50% of new releases to get this result. You're not going to pretend Resident Evil 4 isn't a top three most talked about game of the year so far? But then what's the actual argument for more representation? If 45% of new games are getting female leads but companies keep re-releasing old games because they sell well, then what exactly are people arguing for? 100% female leads in all new games to offset old games from decades ago that are getting remakes? The complaint was about a lack of representation. Now, with hard data that shows that new games have almost perfect parity, the complaint has now shifted to the market being flooded with re-releases and remakes? That's a different argument entirely. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz ... Copied to Clipboard!
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