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Zithers
06/05/23 3:08:00 PM
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scorsese, spielberg, coppola, de palma, schrader, clint are all on death's doorstep

tarantino has his final movie coming out soon. and then we only have so much time left with pta, wes, the coen bros who are all in their 60s.... barry jenkins and greta gerwig, two of the best filmmakers to debut recently, are slumming it in studio land making IP garbage and who knows if they ever escape that vortex and get to make Real Movies again

then even with the cannes film festival having some great looking movies, all people can get excited for is a pg cartoon about spider-man

oh well at least i'll probably never be able to catch up on that were released before i was born :) will keep me occupied for awhile as fandoms become more and more of a thing and center on worshiping corporate 'art'. very weird imo but i guess i've always been out of touch. maybe this is the cool hip thing to do now.

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DarthAragorn
06/05/23 3:09:10 PM
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https://youtu.be/6ETEZo4_YW4

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06/05/23 3:10:07 PM
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Sammy R is my hero
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06/05/23 3:11:17 PM
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Damn_Underscore
06/05/23 3:11:26 PM
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Have you watched all the movies made by those directors? If so, do you remember every detail? How much have you forgotten since the last time you saw it?

tbh there is so much old content available that new content doesnt even matter

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KTG2
06/05/23 3:12:06 PM
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It must be exhausting to have "smug elitism about art" be a stand-in for a personality, wow

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I4NRulez
06/05/23 3:13:33 PM
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This reeks of the people who complain about marvel movies then say their favorite movie is Fight Club or Interstellar

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Zithers
06/05/23 3:22:08 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


i watch a lot of movies and can confirm that the amount of great movies coming out has been lowered over the past few years. and there is quite frankly zero reason to think superhero movies are going to die down in popularity.

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bsp77
06/05/23 3:57:42 PM
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Christopher Nolan, Denis Villeneuve, Bong Joon-ho, Guillermo del Toro, Alfonso Cuaron, Alejandro Gonzalez Inarritu, Martin McDonagh, Damien Chazelle, Jordan Peele, Greta Gerwig (wait for Barbie before complaining)

Cinema is NOT doomed

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Garabandal
06/05/23 3:59:06 PM
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Have you seen a little movie called The Whale?

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R1masher
06/05/23 3:59:11 PM
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Im just glad were going back to modernism

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Zithers
06/05/23 3:59:54 PM
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bsp77 posted...
Christopher Nolan, Denis Villeneuve, Bong Joon-ho, Guillermo del Toro, Alfonso Cuaron, Alejandro Gonzalez Inarritu, Martin McDonagh, Damien Chazelle, Jordan Peele, Greta Gerwig (wait for Barbie before complaining)

Cinema is NOT doomed

naming a lot of bad directors isnt reassuring, bsp77

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Heartomaton
06/05/23 4:02:49 PM
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Murphiroth
06/05/23 4:03:57 PM
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Heartomaton posted...
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NecroFoul99
06/05/23 4:09:14 PM
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Youre saying this while A24 is having a renaissance.

There are a bunch of newer directors ready to take the helm or have already begun and there are young-ish icons who still have decades of work to potentially put out.

Just learn their names and their body if work. Youve obviously done that before.

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GeraldDarko
06/05/23 4:11:39 PM
#19:


What was the last good movie that was released, tc?

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Poorly
06/05/23 4:11:54 PM
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NecroFoul99 posted...
Youre saying this while A24 is having a renaissance.

There are a bunch of newer directors ready to take the helm or have already begun and there are young-ish icons who still have decades of work to potentially put out.

Just learn their names and their body if work. Youve obviously done that before.
J J Abrams showed a promising start

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bsp77
06/05/23 4:12:20 PM
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Zithers posted...
naming a lot of bad directors isnt reassuring, bsp77
Not surprised you feel that way. You seem to not really enjoy film very much and sound like an old man, "back in my day..."

I choose to enjoy more things and life in general.

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Gobstoppers12
06/05/23 4:12:46 PM
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We still have Zack Snyder and all his glorious kino

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CRON
06/05/23 4:13:16 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

I wonder what would be the next trend after superhero movies. DC's movies keep flopping and MCU movies keep getting worse.

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Zithers
06/05/23 4:16:25 PM
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GeraldDarko posted...
What was the last good movie that was released, tc?

i liked john wick, magic mike, and master gardener which all came out in the past couple of months

probably all in the 7-8 range on a 10 point arbitrary numerical rating scale

i feel like drive my car and licorice pizza are the only stone cold masterpieces of the 2020s so far fwiw. maybe red rocket and the fabelmans...

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CyborgSage00x0
06/05/23 4:17:05 PM
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Eh, it's possible that the directors the TC listed are a product of their time and specific place in Hollywood, and the age of star directors with their specific trademark may simply be dying off. But if it is, it's a slow death, because there are plenty of directors that still have years ahead of them that have their own brand/people will come just to see their movies. Maybe they won't be household names like Spielberg or Scorsese, but neither is de Palma, even if he is amazing.

And there are plenty of great and fun movies directed by people no one has ever heard of. How many people can name the director of Edge of Tomorrow off of their heads, for example?

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Zithers
06/05/23 4:17:13 PM
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bsp77 posted...
Not surprised you feel that way. You seem to not really enjoy film very much and sound like an old man, "back in my day..."

I choose to enjoy more things and life in general.

yes as i said less good movies are coming out. that is what the thread is about. thank you for repeating my own point to me.

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Zithers
06/05/23 4:18:41 PM
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CyborgSage00x0 posted...
Eh, it's possible that the directors the TC listed are a product of their time and specific place in Hollywood, and the age of star directors with their specific trademark may simply be dying off. But if it is, it's a slow death, because there are plenty of directors that still have years ahead of them that have their own brand/people will come just to see their movies. Maybe they won't be household names like Spielberg or Scorsese, but neither is de Palma, even if he is amazing.

And there are plenty of great and fun movies directed by people no one has ever heard of. How many people can name the director of Edge of Tomorrow off of their heads, for example?

doug liman, dude. he also did american made with cruise, as well as the bourne identity way back when.

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CyborgSage00x0
06/05/23 4:22:30 PM
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Zithers posted...
doug liman, dude. he also did american made with cruise, as well as the bourne identity way back when.
Yeah, I know *YOU* can name him. But maybe 1/10 people on the street can, but maybe 8/10 at least knows the movie. I.e., a desync between a good movie and the director that helmed it.

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I4NRulez
06/05/23 4:22:42 PM
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Zithers posted...
magic mike

Lol trash

I dont care about your opinion on "good movies" if you think Magic Mike is anything more than soft core porn with a shitty plot.

I bet you think Showgirls was good

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Poorly
06/05/23 4:27:52 PM
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I4NRulez posted...
Lol trash

I dont care about your opinion on "good movies" if you think Magic Mike is anything more than soft core porn with a shitty plot.

I bet you think Showgirls was good
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Panthera
06/05/23 4:28:47 PM
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It's a real shame that all art, sports and culture in general is dying and has been exclusively getting worse at all times ever since the dawn of human history

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bsp77
06/05/23 4:29:01 PM
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Zithers posted...
yes as i said less good movies are coming out. that is what the thread is about. thank you for repeating my own point to me.
No, this is very different than what you said. You are the issue here and just seem like a very negative person.

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I4NRulez
06/05/23 4:29:25 PM
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Poorly posted...
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Mean Girls was a good movie though lol

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GeraldDarko
06/05/23 4:30:20 PM
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Zithers posted...
i liked john wick, magic mike, and master gardener which all came out in the past couple of months

probably all in the 7-8 range on a 10 point arbitrary numerical rating scale

i feel like drive my car and licorice pizza are the only stone cold masterpieces of the 2020s so far fwiw. maybe red rocket and the fabelmans...
So, 3 good movies in the past couple months. What are you worrying about?

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Flauros
06/05/23 4:33:04 PM
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Zithers
06/05/23 4:35:57 PM
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CyborgSage00x0 posted...
Yeah, I know *YOU* can name him. But maybe 1/10 people on the street can, but maybe 8/10 at least knows the movie. I.e., a desync between a good movie and the director that helmed it.

probably a big problem that people don't focus on directors tbh.

I4NRulez posted...
Lol trash

I dont care about your opinion on "good movies" if you think Magic Mike is anything more than soft core porn with a shitty plot.

I bet you think Showgirls was good

showgirls is a satirical masterpiece and one of the best films of the 90s, yeah. GOD verhoeven (also on death's doorstep).

bsp77 posted...
No, this is very different than what you said. You are the issue here and just seem like a very negative person.

it isnt different. i was prematurely mourning the loss of our best filmmakers who are all entering their late eras. and then you named a bunch of medium talents who i don't care for or people who are getting sucked into the IP vortex. i see this as a negative, yes. how can anyone who likes movies not?

GeraldDarko posted...
So, 3 good movies in the past couple months. What are you worrying about?

did you read the OP

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I4NRulez
06/05/23 4:38:35 PM
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GeraldDarko posted...
So, 3 good movies in the past couple months. What are you worrying about?

Two of those movies i wouldnt even consider "good". One is good (Wick) one is meh (MG) and one is bad (Magic Mike).

So if those are his best in the last few months he doesnt know what he's talking about and he's just spouting off nonsense.

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MrKapowski
06/05/23 4:41:03 PM
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TC loves gatekeeping "cinema", and would probably, definitely buy bottled farts from any of the directors he worships.

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bsp77
06/05/23 4:46:28 PM
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Zithers posted...
it isnt different. i was prematurely mourning the loss of our best filmmakers who are all entering their late eras. and then you named a bunch of medium talents who i don't care for or people who are getting sucked into the IP vortex. i see this as a negative, yes. how can anyone who likes movies not?
I love movies and am not concerned. I gave out two 10s so far this year. John Wick and Spider-Verse, as they both pushed the envelope for their respective genres.

Still this year:

Past Lives
Oppenheimer
Killers of the Flower Moon
The Maestro
Poor Things
The Holdovers
Dune Part 2

Looks like a good year. I really feel you are simply too negative based on your comments here.

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random_man9119
06/05/23 4:51:48 PM
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Zithers posted...
all people can get excited for is a pg cartoon about spider-man

Is that a bad thing? Movie looks awesome... It's the only movie I'll probably see this year...

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Jagr_68
06/05/23 4:54:18 PM
#43:


MrKapowski posted...
TC loves gatekeeping "cinema", and would probably, definitely buy bottled farts from any of the directors he worships.

I think it's a gimmick because nobody who genuinely loves film cares that much about theaters or insecure about whatever shit people are in to.

The theater can die a slow death because people suck and I'd rather enjoy an older, fully restored movie in my own home.

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Zikten
06/05/23 4:56:32 PM
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Super Heroes will never die

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bsp77
06/05/23 4:58:56 PM
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Jagr_68 posted...
nobody who genuinely loves film cares that much about theaters
That part is NOT true. My film nerds and I prioritize the theater experience and hate when there are straight to streaming movies.

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brestugo
06/05/23 5:06:56 PM
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Flauros posted...
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CyricZ
06/05/23 5:09:31 PM
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...Clint?

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Zithers
06/05/23 5:11:11 PM
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MrKapowski posted...
TC loves gatekeeping "cinema", and would probably, definitely buy bottled farts from any of the directors he worships.

actually by saying that people should focus less on the most heavily advertised movies and instead seek out smaller and older films that have eluded them... i am opening the gates. very good and cool of me, tbh.

random_man9119 posted...
Is that a bad thing? Movie looks awesome... It's the only movie I'll probably see this year...

generally speaking if the only movie you are excited to see is IP centered and has a nine figure budget then yeah its a bad thing. also if you are in the work force and excited for a pg cartoon about spider-man its probably a bad thing too.

Jagr_68 posted...
I think it's a gimmick because nobody who genuinely loves film cares that much about theaters or insecure about whatever shit people are in to.

The theater can die a slow death because people suck and I'd rather enjoy an older, fully restored movie in my own home.

watching a movie in the theater is superior to at home viewing

Flauros posted...
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apologies but i am not a film bro

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buddhamonster
06/05/23 5:14:57 PM
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Every twenty years or so the now "old" generation proclaims everything they loved as kids is dead and the new generation is going to destroy everything, and then, without fail, the new generation does the exact same shit the old generation does, and the cycle continues.

For every 70 year old director on his way out, a 20 year old student is learning the craft to replace him.

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06/05/23 5:17:00 PM
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Zithers posted...
apologies but i am not a film bro
You should be apologizing for being a gigantic goddamn film bro.

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Zithers
06/05/23 5:18:32 PM
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buddhamonster posted...
Every twenty years or so the now "old" generation proclaims everything they loved as kids is dead and the new generation is going to destroy everything, and then, without fail, the new generation does the exact same shit the old generation does, and the cycle continues.

For every 70 year old director on his way out, a 20 year old student is learning the craft to replace him.

most of the film professors i follow on twitter mention that their students don't really watch movies and instead just love tiktok/youtube, euphoria, and mcu.

and then you have classes refusing to watch taxi driver or blazing saddles cuz of racism or something. to me this is not a great sign for the future and is in fact quite demoralizing (along with other things i've outlined in this thread).

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