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Humble_Novice
06/03/23 6:15:40 PM
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Why do we constantly harp about women being fat more than men?

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ai123
06/03/23 6:17:18 PM
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Women of all sizes are criticized for their appearance far more than men.

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AloneIBreak
06/03/23 6:17:48 PM
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Patriarchy/misogyny

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Irony
06/03/23 6:18:02 PM
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Fat guys are funny

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Raikuro
06/03/23 6:20:05 PM
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Fat men make up for it by desperately throwing money around. People just pretend to tolerate in hopes of getting some of that cash.
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asdf8562
06/03/23 6:20:23 PM
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We don't.

The best you have of the "no tolerance" is similar topics from earlier that tries to paint obesity as healthy.

Fat men are definitely not tolerated as peak husband material, or sexy either.

The closest you will find is a rich or powerful fat man being tolerated like Trump. Trump also isn't paraded around as sexy nor manly, so even then it's about their money or power.
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VampireCoyote
06/03/23 6:20:34 PM
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I tolerate all the fatties

i mean not joyously or anything, theyre just ok I treat them like any other folks

i dont want them farting near me though, they probably have nuclear tectonic plate movement farts and I dont want to smell that if youre fat its ok but please do your farting out doors or in private if its gonna be really bad people gotta breathe

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KeeperOfShadows
06/03/23 6:22:01 PM
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Fat men are tolerated?

Ignored or made fun of, maybe.

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masticatingman
06/03/23 6:37:19 PM
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They're not "tolerated" any more in actual society, lol. Fat guys will constantly bear the brunt of random (and usually very direct) jokes about their weight at various family functions or friend outings. Hell, even at work functions or in the workplace itself.

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ai123
06/03/23 6:44:51 PM
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asdf8562 posted...
The closest you will find is a rich or powerful fat man being tolerated like Trump. Trump also isn't paraded around as sexy nor manly.

Are you familiar with the work of Ben Garrison?

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/4/7/AAdkcxAAEiUb.jpg


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mybbqrules
06/03/23 6:48:40 PM
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ai123 posted...
Are you familiar with the work of Ben Garrison?

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/4/7/AAdkcxAAEiUb.jpg
What's that red thing Trump is wearing on his back? Garrison didn't label it, so I have no idea.

His comics always make me think of this.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/5/0/AAUg1tAAEiUe.jpg

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asdf8562
06/03/23 6:51:32 PM
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ai123 posted...
Are you familiar with the work of Ben Garrison?

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/4/7/AAdkcxAAEiUb.jpg
I'd definitely say Ben falls into the "money and power" department as that political add is about him "fighting the woke mob."

I'd also still put people like Ben in the minority. As most people are not calling Trump hubby material for his looks. Notice even in that political add they had to literally change Trumps fat ass to, not actually be an orange whale.

So even with all that posturing Ben did, even Ben is aware his dear leader is obese and doesn't look manly. He had to create this fantasy version of Trump that wasn't fat but instead buff.
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Nok_Su_Kow
06/03/23 6:58:37 PM
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mybbqrules posted...
What's that red thing Trump is wearing on his back?
All of his neck ties with their power combined.
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pfh1001
06/03/23 7:55:20 PM
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KeeperOfShadows posted...
Fat men are tolerated?

Ignored or made fun of, maybe.


This.
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burns112233
06/03/23 7:57:35 PM
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https://youtube.com/watch?v=17ncjryCCss&feature=share7
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BewmHedshot
06/03/23 8:59:48 PM
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Due to a variety of forces and historical biases, women's social value is sometimes defined solely by how attractive they are, whereas a man can be valuable via his talents, wealth, political power, etc.
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CoyoteTheGreat
06/03/23 9:05:47 PM
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I mean, I think we should tolerate everyone, regardless of their size or sex. Encouraging people to get to a healthy weight, and being intolerant of their weight, are two different things.

It is certainly true that men get a lot less flack for their weight, but they also don't get fetishized for it either. A woman who is overweight but considered attractive is going to have a legion of white knights to tell her that she should never change her size no matter how bad for her health it is.

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electricbugs2
06/03/23 9:11:57 PM
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A lot of fat guys kind of lean into it. Gabriel Iglesias, John Pinette, John Goodman etc.

That's a lot tougher to do for women because of how society expects them to look. It's not fair, but it is how it is.

Also fat women often tend to be a lot heavier then fat men. Men it all just goes to the beer gut, but their arms and legs stay skinny. Women, not so much. There's a reason men's sizes generally go up to a 3X while women's sizes go as high as a 4X or 5X.

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xlr_big-coop
06/03/23 9:57:32 PM
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Irony posted...
Fat guys are funny


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Giblet_Enjoyer
06/04/23 5:25:37 AM
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BewmHedshot posted...
Due to a variety of forces and historical biases, women's social value is sometimes defined solely by how attractive they are, whereas a man can be valuable via his talents, wealth, political power, etc.
Any men who might be attracted to those things are not really able to negotiate for them unless they already have them. What else is there to offer besides looks if not material security? Personality?

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VFalcone
06/04/23 5:57:09 AM
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An overweight man is generally regarded as: fat, fatass, obese, pig, doughboy, tub of lard, fat fuck, etc.

An overweight woman is generally regarded as: plus-sized, big and beautiful, curvy, thick/thicc, built, healthy, queen, etc.

I don't see any tolerance for fat men. Quite the opposite. Fat men have just tolerated being shat on for decades and decades so it's been normalized. That's why a self-identified plus-sized woman can call an overweight man fat.
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stage4saiyan
06/04/23 5:59:34 AM
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Counter point: fat women get a pass more than fat men do. Fat men, as said ITT, are made fun of and subconsciously written off (hence why we consider them goofy) whereas people pretend a woman being fat is encouraging or powerful, calling them thicc or acting like its desirable.

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XxKrebsxX
06/04/23 6:10:30 AM
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No.

For example, take an overweight man with money. He will get some attractive women.

the same cannot be said for women. Take an overweight woman with money and they dont find success like men with money. For example, Lizzo.
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ai123
06/04/23 6:26:16 AM
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If you think women get a free pass on their weight because everyone is calling them a 'thicc queen' or whatever, then I guess the increasing rates of anorexia and mental illness due to body image issues have just passed you by.

You know that the pressure to adhere to female 'beauty standards' is immense, right? And the fact that a handful of people are trying to redefine those 'standards' in a way that makes overweight women and girls feel OK about themselves, hasn't changed much.

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Hoodroar
06/04/23 6:31:08 AM
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Because in terms of dating women only really need to look good (instead of having to for example approach, pay for stuff, or make their partner feel protected), so a fat woman is seen as failing her only job.

A fat guy could still be charismatic, wealthy, or strong, and for the purposes stated above these traits are just as important for men as their looks.

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_____Cait
06/04/23 6:40:05 AM
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Because its fat men who blast fat women

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Ratchetrockon
06/04/23 6:51:24 AM
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Men just have to be big i think

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cjsdowg
06/04/23 7:17:14 AM
#29:


As a fat man, no we don't . Like not at all.

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Mibahlzitch
06/04/23 3:17:21 PM
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VFalcone posted...
An overweight man is generally regarded as: fat, fatass, obese, pig, doughboy, tub of lard, fat fuck, etc.

An overweight woman is generally regarded as: plus-sized, big and beautiful, curvy, thick/thicc, built, healthy, queen, etc.

I don't see any tolerance for fat men. Quite the opposite. Fat men have just tolerated being shat on for decades and decades so it's been normalized. That's why a self-identified plus-sized woman can call an overweight man fat.

I can't imagine actually thinking the world works like this. It's denial of reality on a flat earther level.

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IceCreamOnStero
06/04/23 3:26:45 PM
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Fat women that get shat on are shat on a lot more than fat men. But not all fat women are shat on.


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Zonbei
06/04/23 3:27:30 PM
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asdf8562 posted...
We don't.

The best you have of the "no tolerance" is similar topics from earlier that tries to paint obesity as healthy.

Fat men are definitely not tolerated as peak husband material, or sexy either.

The closest you will find is a rich or powerful fat man being tolerated like Trump. Trump also isn't paraded around as sexy nor manly, so even then it's about their money or power.

trump isnt paraded around as being manly youve got to be fucking joking lol

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Zonbei
06/04/23 3:29:08 PM
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God I made the mistake of reading farther and this topic is just full of men complaining about women having it too good. Its like incel central in here.

Nobody is pretending fat men arent insulted or treated worse: fat shaming is a problem for everyone and unrealistic body standards hurt men too. Its a matter of degree; on average, fat men are more acceptable to society than fat women and face less harassment.

The fact a contingent of society has managed to somewhat push female bodily standards towards being thicc being desirable doesnt change that. You have to be a certain type of body for that to apply to you, and then youre just getting harassed a different way. And still get called fat by others. Its just another way to objectify women, in the end, that some women have tried to make empowering.

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Bass2
06/04/23 3:29:17 PM
#36:


Irony posted...
Fat guys are funny

including The Quartering?
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Giblet_Enjoyer
06/04/23 3:40:02 PM
#37:


XxKrebsxX posted...
No.

For example, take an overweight man with money. He will get some attractive women.

the same cannot be said for women. Take an overweight woman with money and they dont find success like men with money. For example, Lizzo.
Lol the only difference is that she doesn't need the money.
There are literally morbidly obese women on ****fans that take in tens of thousands per month

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CoyoteTheGreat
06/04/23 3:48:08 PM
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Bass2 posted...
including The Quartering?

The Quarterpounder has to be the least funny person in the world.

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Giblet_Enjoyer
06/04/23 3:49:56 PM
#39:


Mibahlzitch posted...
I can't imagine actually thinking the world works like this. It's denial of reality on a flat earther level.
It's not the case in real life so much but it certainly is in the media. Women are pushing for broadening of "beauty standards" in a way men just aren't. Probably because resorting to such a tactic in lieu of self-improvement is (rightly) seen as a failure of character by most men

Hoodroar posted...
Because in terms of dating women only really need to look good (instead of having to for example approach, pay for stuff, or make their partner feel protected), so a fat woman is seen as failing her only job.

A fat guy could still be charismatic, wealthy, or strong, and for the purposes stated above these traits are just as important for men as their looks.
Good summation.

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Zonbei
06/04/23 3:58:33 PM
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Giblet_Enjoyer posted...
It's not the case in real life so much but it certainly is in the media. Women are pushing for broadening of "beauty standards" in a way men just aren't. Probably because resorting to such a tactic in lieu of self-improvement is (rightly) seen as a failure of character by most men

Good summation.

God it must be sad to be one of you dudes who dont have any standards for the women you date other than attractive.

Although that assumes youre dating anyone at all, I suppose.

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BloodMoon7
06/04/23 4:00:02 PM
#41:


Zonbei posted...
God it must be sad to be one of you dudes who dont have any standards for the women you date other than attractive.

Although that assumes youre dating anyone at all, I suppose.
As someone who doesn't date, my standards also include "doesn't puke when looking at me"

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Giblet_Enjoyer
06/04/23 4:06:22 PM
#42:


Zonbei posted...
God it must be sad to be one of you dudes who dont have any standards for the women you date other than attractive.

Although that assumes youre dating anyone at all, I suppose.
Someone's getting a bit fired up. Simmer down there, bud.
They do also need to not be eminently unlikable. Satisfied?

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foreverzero212
06/04/23 4:13:02 PM
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Feels like a lot of this board is in their 40s/50s so in your heyday overweight women were definitely not tolerated.

Nowadays tho thicc, bbw, plus size, etc is a lot more "in" than skinny is. Like skinny women these days get bullied into all sorts of ridicules things like butt implants.

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CyborgSage00x0
06/04/23 4:19:33 PM
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ai123 posted...
Are you familiar with the work of Ben Garrison?
I'm not sure that Ben Garrison counts as being "paraded around." That certainly isn't a mainstream take on Trump's weight.

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CoyoteTheGreat
06/04/23 4:25:31 PM
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Zonbei posted...


Nobody is pretending fat men arent insulted or treated worse: fat shaming is a problem for everyone and unrealistic body standards hurt men too. Its a matter of degree; on average, fat men are more acceptable to society than fat women and face less harassment.

Like, out of all the problems in American society, people getting fat shamed is not one of them. Maybe if we all lived in Japan or something you could say that, but in reality, its the exact opposite that is true. 2 in 5 adults and 1 in 5 children are obese. Obesity is the greatest medical issue facing America today, the number one issue that needs to be fixed in this country. It isn't "unrealistic body standards" that is the problem in America, and in fact, for the vast majority of people, getting to a healthy weight isn't unrealistic at all, it just requires a change in diet and activity levels.

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Zonbei
06/04/23 4:26:47 PM
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Giblet_Enjoyer posted...
Someone's getting a bit fired up. Simmer down there, bud.
They do also need to not be eminently unlikable. Satisfied?

I mean, its not about my satisfaction lol. Im saying it must be terrible to have such low, silly standards. I date people who are intelligent, interesting, funny, and unique. People with shared interests and a shared understanding of the world, with good communication skills. Being attractive matters too, but if your only criteria is I dont hate them and theyre hot thats pretty sad.

Youre commenting negatively on the dumb things Im saying I believe, you must be fired up and upset! This somehow diminishes you and puts me on top. Get some new material instead of copying every other shitlord on the internet lol.

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Imit8m3
06/04/23 4:27:20 PM
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We?


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Gamespoht
06/04/23 4:39:31 PM
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There's an expectation that men who get body shamed for their weight won't get offended or interpret that as encouragement to work out


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IceCreamOnStero
06/04/23 4:46:04 PM
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Zonbei posted...
I mean, its not about my satisfaction lol. Im saying it must be terrible to have such low, silly standards. I date people who are intelligent, interesting, funny, and unique. People with shared interests and a shared understanding of the world, with good communication skills. Being attractive matters too, but if your only criteria is I dont hate them and theyre hot thats pretty sad.

Youre commenting negatively on the dumb things Im saying I believe, you must be fired up and upset! This somehow diminishes you and puts me on top. Get some new material instead of copying every other shitlord on the internet lol.
The worst part of talking about relationships online is that the conversation is somehow always diverted to insisting that the other party has too high or too low standards.

I've seen people ridiculed for chasing 8s and 9s and also ridiculed for having very lenient standards. What's wrong with people liking what they like? How exactly is that "sad"?

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Zonbei
06/04/23 4:52:12 PM
#52:


IceCreamOnStero posted...
The worst part of talking about relationships online is that the conversation is somehow always diverted to insisting that the other party has too high or too low standards.

I've seen people ridiculed for chasing 8s and 9s and also ridiculed for having very lenient standards. What's wrong with people liking what they like? How exactly is that "sad"?

Because if youre choosing who to date based entirely on the criteria of are they hot, youre going to generally end up having poor quality relationships. Thats why its sad. This isnt some new concept, this is a pretty well worn idea.

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