Poll of the Day > 261 is dead

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Who's assuming? It was a vague statement, I've presented what I believe to be the two most likely interpretations as a means of communicating the current state of my understanding, and invited him to clarify. If anything, I'm making a definite effort not to assume anything.

Honestly, this is whole-sale absurd.

Closing an entire board by some random 26 year old from the *checks notes* company that bought GFaqs (that was happening?) using flimsy corporate boiler plate logic is bush league shit.

It doesn't even make sense. All politic discussions boards are to cease because of online security and trust? What the blue hell does that mean? And Christ, if abusive language on 261 is the benchmark, you might as well fold GFaqs entirely. God forbid they take a look at the game boards. Makes stuff like 261 look like chump change.

This is wholesale ridiculous and will just unleash the 10 or so trolls that made a billion accounts to troll 261 either here or 261 (most likely). If you have a website with non-video game centric forums, political discussions are inevitable. Not only is a ban on something like 261 pointless, but it deserves a better explanation than the weak and confusing one given.

why are half the new people suspended?

why are half the new people suspended?

Politics was a lot more severe than you think. There's nothing absurd about taking down possibly the most toxic board in all of the site. The idea that game boards are much worse is laughable.

it really wasn't toxic.

If you really believe that then either you got lucky or you just didn't browse there enough.

If you really believe that then either you got lucky or you just didn't browse there enough.

All.that said, I'm going to assume you have an alt, because I never once saw you on 261, which makes your stances on the matter look quite suspicious.

Honestly, this is whole-sale absurd.

Closing an entire board by some random 26 year old from the *checks notes* company that bought GFaqs (that was happening?) using flimsy corporate boiler plate logic is bush league shit.

It doesn't even make sense. All politic discussions boards are to cease because of online security and trust? What the blue hell does that mean? And Christ, if abusive language on 261 is the benchmark, you might as well fold GFaqs entirely. God forbid they take a look at the game boards. Makes stuff like 261 look like chump change.

This is wholesale ridiculous and will just unleash the 10 or so trolls that made a billion accounts to troll 261 either here or 261 (most likely). If you have a website with non-video game centric forums, political discussions are inevitable. Not only is a ban on something like 261 pointless, but it deserves a better explanation than the weak and confusing one given.

261 was definitely a toxic place with a heavy slant, but cleaning up the place would have been a much better option than shutting it down.

This. If you are going to have a website that encourages discussion outside of gaming, then closing boards that could get controversial is ridiculous.

If they want to keep people coming here, how about putting the work into moderating those discussions instead?

I agree. It really seemed like inmates running the asylum, so I blame the mods letting it turn as a toxic as it did. They set the tone. They should all be canned for their terrible job of doing their task objectively. What compounds it further with the fact it was a special board, they didn't even have explain what you said that got you in trouble and you couldn't contest it. So you couldn't even be sure what part of what you said was the issue. If I had a massive post where I covered several topics...which was the problem?...oh you didn't tell me so I guess I left to assume the issue was I said something opposed the mainstream narrative and that's WRONG.

Things were so grossly biased as you could call rightwingers anything under the sun. It's completely fine suggest an entire half of the country is nothing by various -ist and the mods will treat it that like fact.(I've reported posts to test it, and they remain.) Say anything that isn't positive toward a left wing group or politician...trolling. The moment you weren't in lockstep with the current narrative for the left, you were trolling which was such a nebulous clause to be modded for. It's gotten be such a vague catch all anything a mod feels is trolling can be appied to basically any post they feel like. I feel this needs much tighter terms of how it's applied and actual examples of X statement is trolling and explain why. There's no letter of the law here, it's completely subjective and done with impunity.

The most bogus of that "trolling" is misinformation,as like what creditals do these mods have that they are fit to judge was is factual? I doubt any of them are remotely that well informed to make that call in earnest or have some area of expertise that they can personally speak at length about a subject well enough to say with 100% certainty it's false information. Seriously how many masters or higher degrees in any subject run around as mods here?..I'm guessing less than 1% but I'm expected trust their judgment when I could very well be far better informed than they are. If we were allowed debate I'd happily prove it. Everything about the concept of misinformation is again completely subjective to the knowledge(or lack of) of the person reviewing it.

This is a super dangerous mentality as means no can challenge any mainstream view. So if the powers that be are actually lying(Which happens way too often as of late as current events are proving.) we are not allowed to even discuss this fact. I find everything about this intellectually dishonest , as the real way prove something is true or false is to DEBATE IT. Not just take someone else's word for it and slap a factcheck on something and assume they're right even when they might not be. We aren't allowed question things or you're crazy.

Until CNN or another official outlet says it's true, you're going get modded saying it if it makes the left look bad. Take the Hunter Biden Laptop, which was factual that is existed from day 1. But until the mainstream news talked about it, you were spreading misinformation if you mentioned it at all.(Which I have experienced) The mods it got completely wrong, but it's ok when they do it. Regardless of how you felt about it, you weren't allowed mention it's existence despite the New York Post had a breaking story on it that big tech moved heaven and earth to discredit. 50 intelligence community personalities lied to say was Russian disinformation despite it wasn't. If you see a huge concerted effort bury something, that means we really should look at it to be certain of what it is, not oh just ignore it as this site seems think is the prevailing wisdom. This should be a huge red flag and we as Americans should definitely be able to discuss that because people had an agenda to silence the truth. I don't care what your politics are do you really want people deciding for you what is acceptable to talk about or not? I am grown adult and I don't need someone doing it for my own good.

So yeah I found this board failed horribly as outlet where people could actually have political discussions in earnest. You were only allowed see one side of things, and even when people who weren't rightwingers said anything that wasn't part of the narrative they got an avalanche of other posters calling them various rightwing slurs. There's no nuance as let's boil everything down to two positions...Mine and that of people who are evil.

Despite everything I said wrong with it, I actually still had a use for the board as it. I could glance at it easily look into the minds of all the leftist nonsense and take a temperature of the situation without having talk to anyone or probe for further information. They gave me everything I'd want to know for free effortlessly. It's great intel into the minds of the left. I did my best not engage and just lurk, but I'd periodically let my passions get the better of me.

I mostly blamed myself if I got modded near the end. As they say in, War games,"The only way to win is not to play." I knew the probability of it happening was like 60% chances everytime I posted anything there. I had say a lot in the fewest words possible to have any hopes of expressing myself, and even walking on eggshells I still found myself in trouble too often. I had refrain from saying more as the moment I bothered to expand on anything I said I typically got reported and nailed so it wasn't worth it. The peanut gallery felt their views were correct since I couldn't actually reply back. Like no the powers that be just are siding with you which is not remotely the same thing. Again this kind of thing just fostered a wretched environment and only most delusional think it was a reasonable and fair place actually discuss politics in good faith.

I can see why new management would nix it as it's probably where the bulk of the moderations happen at. If they want to retain people on this site, that can't continue at the pace it likely does. The issue it opens for me is we will likely see more trojan horse topics to spread the politics topics in most loosely adjactant ways. You see this on the comic forum, as as a few people they try force their politics into the realm of comics by saying, oh "this actor who plays X MCU character has views we don't agree with" so let's make a topic about it. What this actually has to do with comics...NADA but the mods allow it happen. In the event you try push back against you would get modded despite the topic shouldn't have been there in the first place as it violates the spirit of the board.

I'm tired of left wing politics invading every sphere on my nerddom to which I am expected to just tolerate it or remain silent. (Such as comics, movies, & magic cards.) I just wanted to be a nerd and discuss what are my favorite moments in star wars, or what hero can kick what hero's butt in a verus thread. They keep invading my clubhouses and telling me I was never a real fan after they turn what I love into trash. I wanted nothing do with politics as I vaguely paid attention to things for years until they forced my hand. I feel like I have to pay close attention to keep a hand on the wheel. I'd love to go back to my life where I could ignore most of it, but that doesn't seem to be the case anytime soon. I miss the days of just being a nerd.

But discussion was very toxic on 261.

That said, problem also comes that some mods participate in some of the toxicity. It's not relegated to politics only, but you can tell when a mod isn't taking anything seriously.

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If this means I never have to see a post from posters like SaikyoStyle and carljenk again it'll be a wonderful gift.

luckily potd might be the most pro-trans gaming forum ever

Only last week, I decided I was going to stop posting on 261. Lots of good (and not so good) discussion there over the years, but lately it was more of a grind than fun.

That being said: Closing the board is dumb. 261 has some toxic discussion, just like every other board on the internet. Some decent moderation for a change would be better than a shut down. It is pretty silly for a discussion site full of specialized topics to get one closed for being not much different than any other site. Because who knows what the next random shut down will be?

No skin off my nose-I wasnt planning on returning anyway. But geez, let people talk if they want to. I was on 261 for years, and there are worse boards everywhere, including this very site.

Aaaaaaand he's banned...

Until CNN or another official outlet says it's true, you're going get modded saying it if it makes the left look bad. Take the Hunter Biden Laptop, which was factual that is existed from day 1. But until the mainstream news talked about it, you were spreading misinformation if you mentioned it at all.(Which I have experienced) The mods it got completely wrong, but it's ok when they do it. Regardless of how you felt about it, you weren't allowed mention it's existence despite the New York Post had a breaking story on it that big tech moved heaven and earth to discredit. 50 intelligence community personalities lied to say was Russian disinformation despite it wasn't. If you see a huge concerted effort bury something, that means we really should look at it to be certain of what it is, not oh just ignore it as this site seems think is the prevailing wisdom. This should be a huge red flag and we as Americans should definitely be able to discuss that because people had an agenda to silence the truth. I don't care what your politics are do you really want people deciding for you what is acceptable to talk about or not? I am grown adult and I don't need someone doing it for my own good.

As they say in, War games,"The only way to win is not to play."

Jesus no one's gonna read this shit.

All political discussion will be next.

Suspended only.

No one has to love 261, but I cant imagine anyone reading the corporate nonsense posted about the closure and thinking: This will be great for this discussion forum going forward!.

It also opens them up to lawsuits. Kiwi farms was shut down because of their anti-trans harassment and doxing which ended up in suicides a lot of the time. I knew a person that died, btw, they were very friendly and apolitical, but their real life was being harmed by it. I guess we have to harass those trans emulator developers.

Every time a website goes gung ho free speech they end up becoming gathering grounds for Nazis, then they end up getting shut down for violence or lawsuits. We can pretend that nothing we say really matters because we have the right to say whatever, but if people want to be platformed they need to not act like feral animals.

All political discussion will indeed be next, followed by any discussion, game related or not that Fandom thinks has the potential to make people at all uncomfortable and slightly tarnish the brand.

And I mean, so be it. It is their site now and they make the rules. We can abide by those decisions or just post somewhere else.

I just think it is funny that people who encountered trolls on 261 are cheering a bunch of mods doing corporate bidding and limiting discussion in a discussion forum for no reason. It is not good for us when politics cant be discussed on an Internet forum because such content might have an element of controversy that will make Fandom execs blush. It is only good for them. Yay corporations I guess!

No one has to love 261, but I cant imagine anyone reading the corporate nonsense posted about the closure and thinking: This will be great for this discussion forum going forward!.

po has some competition

po has some competition