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Noname12
05/15/23 10:49:50 AM
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Las go

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UnfairRepresent
05/15/23 10:50:29 AM
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So the UK rejecting this merger is arguably the only good thing that ever come out of Brexit.

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Tyranthraxus
05/15/23 10:50:47 AM
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UK will fold. Their cloud gaming argument doesn't even make sense because ABK doesn't have any cloud gaming services.

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GrandConjuraton
05/15/23 10:53:35 AM
#4:


UnfairRepresent posted...
So the UK rejecting this merger is arguably the only good thing that ever come out of Brexit.


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voldothegr8
05/15/23 10:55:40 AM
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I think so far UK are the only ones who didn't approve. Bunch of Sony shills up in that government.

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TaylorHeinicke
05/15/23 11:01:22 AM
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So like, if the UK never bends, is the merger dead? How does that work?

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CaptainStrong
05/15/23 11:02:27 AM
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voldothegr8 posted...
I think so far UK are the only ones who didn't approve. Bunch of Sony shills up in that government.
People who think Microsoft and Activision are big enough already and shouldn't merge are Sony shills?
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GrandConjuraton
05/15/23 11:04:08 AM
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CaptainStrong posted...
People who think Microsoft and Activision are big enough already and shouldn't merge are Sony shills?
Monopolies aren't good for anyone.

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ZevLoveDOOM
05/15/23 11:05:22 AM
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so i guess more games for Game Pass then...
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LightHawKnight
05/15/23 11:05:23 AM
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Final fuckingly. Hope Microsoft can fix Blizzard.

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voldothegr8
05/15/23 11:07:05 AM
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TaylorHeinicke posted...
So like, if the UK never bends, is the merger dead? How does that work?
At the end of the day it's up to the US government to decide. They could use the UKs disapproval as a reason to not allow it, that's about it.

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Bio1590
05/15/23 11:07:48 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
UK will fold. Their cloud gaming argument doesn't even make sense because ABK doesn't have any cloud gaming services.

Also the future growth of that market is entirely speculative at best and probably has just as much of a chance of going nowhere as it does of actually exploding.

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Lord_Shadow
05/15/23 11:08:21 AM
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Why doesn't uk even have a say aren't they both American companies

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SocialistGamer
05/15/23 11:08:28 AM
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LightHawKnight posted...
Final fuckingly. Hope Microsoft can fix Blizzard.
Ah yes fucking MS will fix Blizzard lol.

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ZevLoveDOOM
05/15/23 11:09:38 AM
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so yeah, im confused here: so every continent gets to decide whether two companies should merge or not? how does that work?
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Redwarz
05/15/23 11:09:55 AM
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SocialistGamer posted...
Ah yes fucking MS will fix Blizzard lol.

From the creators of Halo Infinite and RedFall

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TheGoldenEel
05/15/23 11:10:26 AM
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Really fucking weird how so many Gamers are cheering on monopolies to own the company that makes a different console than they own


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LightHawKnight
05/15/23 11:12:01 AM
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SocialistGamer posted...
Ah yes fucking MS will fix Blizzard lol.

Just firing and replacing a bunch of people would fix a lot. The bar is that fucking low.

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Rai_Jin
05/15/23 11:12:57 AM
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voldothegr8 posted...
At the end of the day it's up to the US government to decide. They could use the UKs disapproval as a reason to not allow it, that's about it.

is that actually true? not sure.

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voldothegr8
05/15/23 11:14:12 AM
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ZevLoveDOOM posted...
so yeah, im confused here: so every continent gets to decide whether two companies should merge or not? how does that work?
As I kind of explained above, at the end of the day the US government decides. All these approvals from different countries are helping which direction the US government goes.

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Tyranthraxus
05/15/23 11:15:26 AM
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Rai_Jin posted...
is that actually true? not sure.
No it's not true. They need the US approval to actually buy the company but without other countries approval they will not be able to legally conduct business in those countries.

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Trelve
05/15/23 11:45:33 AM
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Lord_Shadow posted...
Why doesn't uk even have a say aren't they both American companies
American companies that operate in more than just America. If you want to trade in different countries, you need to abide by their laws.
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Lord_Shadow
05/15/23 12:32:41 PM
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Yes but its fucking Microsoft they are big enough that thier isn't a way the UK just says naw we don't want new computers or software

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alphagamble
05/15/23 12:37:45 PM
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Terrible news

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Funkydog
05/15/23 12:41:44 PM
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Lord_Shadow posted...
Yes but its fucking Microsoft they are big enough that thier isn't a way the UK just says naw we don't want new computers or software

You're acting like a rational and normal person. The people in charge of these groups here in Britain want to make a point to everyone that we 'still matter'

And are idiots


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Questionmarktarius
05/15/23 12:48:41 PM
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TheGoldenEel posted...
Really fucking weird how so many Gamers are cheering on monopolies to own the company that makes a different console than they own
meh.
I'm trying to remember the last game Microsoft or Activision made that I care about, and the best I'm coming up with is maybe Minecraft.
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Tyranthraxus
05/15/23 12:50:27 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
meh.
I'm trying to remember the last game Microsoft or Activision made that I care about, and the best I'm coming up with is maybe Minecraft.
Just because you don't care about it doesn't mean nobody does.

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Vyrulisse
05/15/23 12:56:40 PM
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TheGoldenEel posted...
Really fucking weird how so many Gamers are cheering on monopolies to own the company that makes a different console than they own
Nah most people are just sick of the blatant hypocrisy.
All this shit is literally "It's okay when Sony does it."
They want to see Sony eat shit for once.

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Tyranthraxus
05/15/23 1:03:08 PM
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Vyrulisse posted...
Nah most people are just sick of the blatant hypocrisy.
All this shit is literally "It's okay when Sony does it."
They want to see Sony eat shit for once.
It's also double hypocrisy because the people complaining the most have a huge overlap with the people who have been shitting on CoD / OW / Diablo / Warcraft / etc for years.

Like this company and all their games suck but suddenly it's a problem if Microsoft wants to buy them.

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Damn_Underscore
05/15/23 1:03:59 PM
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I will only understand the people vehemently against this deal if they are robots and it sets off an if-then sequence that causes them to reject it

First of all people have been arguing for awhile whether this would actually be a monopoly or not, but ignoring that for a minute and looking at the context of the actual deal. Activision is a legacy company in the video game industry with a ton of great IPs. Unfortunately, bad business in recent years (i.e. focusing on shareholders rather than customers) has caused Activision to really lose the good name it once had among gamers. This deal with Microsoft could be a chance to restore that good name. It would be wrong to say that there are no possible downsides for gamers or anyone else if this deal goes through, but it seems that the benefits would certainly outweigh the downsides at least.

Besides losing popularity and respect among gamers, Activisions practices have basically forced Bobby Kotick & Co. to sell away control of the company. Of all the potential buyers out there, Microsoft is one of the very best - especially from a gamers perspective.

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Questionmarktarius
05/15/23 1:08:12 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
Unfortunately, bad business in recent years (i.e. focusing on shareholders rather than customers) has caused Activision to really lose the good name it once had among gamers.
The great irony here being that Activion was created exactly because Atari was getting too "corporate".
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Crimsoness
05/15/23 1:09:04 PM
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After Redfall I no longer trust Microsoft to run anything involved with gaming. I expect Starfield to be a complete shitshow.

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FL81
05/15/23 1:14:14 PM
#33:


Lord_Shadow posted...
Why doesn't uk even have a say aren't they both American companies
This.

We fought a war to become independent from them

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TomClark
05/15/23 1:29:37 PM
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Lord_Shadow posted...
Yes but its fucking Microsoft they are big enough that thier isn't a way the UK just says naw we don't want new computers or software

To be fair, you're talking about the same government that cheerfully decided that "naw, we don't want food" because they were wildly hopped up on the "Brexit Means Brexit, we'll just get everyone to grow turnips in their garden" wave of woefully misplaced exceptionalism.

If it came to it, I absolutely believe that they would happily be evoking the ghost of Clive Sinclair as they boasted that we should be reviving our own homegrown computing market.

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Foppe
05/15/23 1:31:54 PM
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Microsoft have allowed their games on both Nintendo and Sony hardware in the past.
You can still play exclusive titles on Sony hardware so where is the monopoly?

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Kimbos_Egg
05/15/23 2:01:44 PM
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Lord_Shadow posted...
Why doesn't uk even have a say aren't they both American companies

Because they sell products in the UK, genius..

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Tyranthraxus
05/15/23 2:21:54 PM
#37:


Foppe posted...
Microsoft have allowed their games on both Nintendo and Sony hardware in the past.
You can still play exclusive titles on Sony hardware so where is the monopoly?
There isn't one even if Microsoft only made games for Xbox they would still have less than 40% of the market (in gaming) after the acquisition.

Edit: well there is one but it's a vertical integration monopoly and it's been there for decades so now is a weird time to suddenly have a problem with it.

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dirtydog
05/15/23 2:29:32 PM
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Funkydog posted...
You're acting like a rational and normal person. The people in charge of these groups here in Britain want to make a point to everyone that we 'still matter'

And are idiots

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dirtydog
05/15/23 2:30:15 PM
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TomClark posted...
To be fair, you're talking about the same government that cheerfully decided that "naw, we don't want food" because they were wildly hopped up on the "Brexit Means Brexit, we'll just get everyone to grow turnips in their garden" wave of woefully misplaced exceptionalism.

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Dakimakura
05/15/23 2:48:24 PM
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Kick the UK out of Europe for their insolence.

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ROBANN_88
05/15/23 2:57:10 PM
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i didn't realize companies needed government approval to merge

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noisetank
05/15/23 3:28:56 PM
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get cranked Sony.

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mario2000
05/15/23 3:29:56 PM
#43:


ROBANN_88 posted...
i didn't realize companies needed government approval to merge

If they're big enough and there are possible consumer protection concerns, then yes they do.

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Solar_Crimson
05/15/23 3:30:08 PM
#44:


Lord_Shadow posted...
Why doesn't uk even have a say aren't they both American companies
Because it affects whether or not MS will be able to sell their stuff in the UK.

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hyperpowder
05/15/23 3:49:29 PM
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Vyrulisse posted...
Nah most people are just sick of the blatant hypocrisy.
All this shit is literally "It's okay when Sony does it."
They want to see Sony eat shit for once.

when did Sony buy a major 3rd party studio?

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DarthAragorn
05/15/23 3:50:03 PM
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hyperpowder posted...
when did Sony buy a major 3rd party studio?
Bungie

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MrKapowski
05/15/23 3:54:42 PM
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Do all the people whining about monopolies understand that Sony already behaves like a monopoly, and has been for years?

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coolguyjimmy
05/15/23 3:55:25 PM
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UK Government will do a U-turn, "The prevention ordered occurred before certain facts were known, it was an unfortunate lapse by an individual, that has covered by internal disciplinary procedures."
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hyperpowder
05/15/23 3:56:59 PM
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DarthAragorn posted...
Bungie

Bungies still independently ran, their games are still on Xbox, and far from major third party with a lack of back catalogue and only one franchise made from the studio.

try again

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Damn_Underscore
05/15/23 3:57:52 PM
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coolguyjimmy posted...
UK Government will do a U-turn, "The prevention ordered occurred before certain facts were known, it was an unfortunate lapse by an individual, that has covered by internal disciplinary procedures."

No innit or guvna, I dont believe it

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