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No_U_L7
05/10/23 6:33:31 PM
#1:


Version of the same item are the worse

You can argue that its not worth it for value/$ all you want and may have valid points

But there is absolutely a difference

A timex and a Rolex watch

A bic and a montblanc pen

Hanes and billy Reid t shirts

Gas station sunglasses and Randolph engineering

Etc

Just because you either are not smart enough or care enough to understand the difference doesnt mean it doesnt exist

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Trumble
05/10/23 6:35:58 PM
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Depends on the item tbh.

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No_U_L7
05/10/23 6:37:11 PM
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Trumble posted...
Depends on the item tbh.


There is no example where the cheap item and expensive item are identical. The differences may be minute or not worth the up charge but it does exist

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Aztex
05/10/23 6:41:07 PM
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One is made by underpaid children on china?

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__starsnostars
05/10/23 6:45:46 PM
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Aren't a lot of store brand foods for example the exact same or nearly identical to some of the name brands foods aside from branding of course. Like they are made at the same factories and the same recipes.

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Kombucha
05/10/23 6:47:10 PM
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No_U_L7 posted...
There is no example where the cheap item and expensive item are identical. The differences may be minute or not worth the up charge but it does exist

i had a friend who had a father who worked in a factory making plastic wrap (think glad cling and seal). the same stuff that went into the name brand box got into the generic box.

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No_U_L7
05/10/23 6:47:22 PM
#7:


Aztex posted...
One is made by underpaid children on china?


Country of origin and factory quality are common differences yes. Some plain t shirts can cost $50 just because theyre made in USA by workers who are properly compensated

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ArsGoetia
05/10/23 6:47:58 PM
#8:


i mean yeah
but if you got the dough
why would you waste it on inferior products being a brand ho
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No_U_L7
05/10/23 6:49:42 PM
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__starsnostars posted...
Aren't a lot of store brand foods for example the exact same or nearly identical to some of the name brands foods aside from branding of course. Like they are made at the same factories and the same recipes.


No clue about food tbh but Im sure there are some differences (meat source etc)

Kombucha posted...


i had a friend who had a father who worked in a factory making plastic wrap (think glad cling and seal). the same stuff that went into the name brand box got into the generic box.


Every time I get knock off stuff it doesnt work as good. For something like plastic wrap, the packaging could be lower quality (doesnt cut as well)

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NoxObscuras
05/10/23 6:49:43 PM
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You're making an argument that isn't there. No one is saying that gas station sunglasses are the same as more expensive brands.

The point is that many don't feel it's worth the massive jump in price for some of the high end brands.

Like I have no problem paying $130 for a pair of Ray Ban Aviators, because they last me much longer than some cheap plastic $40 sunglasses. But I don't see the point in paying $260+ for a pair of Aviators from Randolph Engineering. There's nothing I see that justifies the price being double that of my Ray Bans.

Same thing with watches. I'd much rather get a Timex or a Fossil over a Rolex.

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TMOG
05/10/23 6:51:14 PM
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No_U_L7 posted...
A bic and a montblanc pen
Ok I'm gonna need you to explain to me how a $500 ballpoint pen is in any way an upgrade over a Bic that you can get in a pack of 20 for $5, unless you really want to show off how bad with money you are
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008Zulu
05/10/23 6:51:17 PM
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Expensive shit breaks just as easily as the cheap shit, is what they say to justify it. Maybe if they treated their expensive shit better growing up, their parents wouldn't have only gotten them cheap shit by brainwashing them like this.

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ArsGoetia
05/10/23 6:52:47 PM
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__starsnostars posted...
Aren't a lot of store brand foods for example the exact same or nearly identical to some of the name brands foods aside from branding of course. Like they are made at the same factories and the same recipes.

yes
just a different label/box

most lower to midrange independent restaurants are going to source most of their product from sysco or us foods too
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No_U_L7
05/10/23 6:54:35 PM
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NoxObscuras posted...
You're making an argument that isn't there. No one is saying that gas station sunglasses are the same as more expensive brands.

The point is that many don't feel it's worth the massive jump in price for some of the high end brands.

Like I have no problem paying $130 for a pair of Ray Ban Aviators, because they last me much longer than some cheap plastic $40 sunglasses. But I don't see the point in paying $260+ for a pair of Aviators from Randolph Engineering. There's nothing I see that justifies the price being double that of my Ray Bans.

Same thing with watches. I'd much rather get a Timex or a Fossil over a Rolex.


Nah ppl have said the exact same thing I have said in the OPa lot of my examples are taken straight from my topics

For sunglasses lasting long isnt the only criteria. Lens tint clarity is a big factor, of which you probably just werent aware of

If you tried ray bans and Randolph back to back youd realize that Randolphs do a better job of blocking out the sun while being easier to see thru the lenses due to better clarity

Amongst other factors

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LightningThief
05/10/23 6:54:54 PM
#15:


I'd like to point out, more expensive does not always mean better.
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The_Korey
05/10/23 6:55:03 PM
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No_U_L7 posted...
There is no example where the cheap item and expensive item are identical. The differences may be minute or not worth the up charge but it does exist

Wine.

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_____Cait
05/10/23 6:55:39 PM
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Its really pathetic and shows your insecurity if this really matters to you.

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No_U_L7
05/10/23 7:00:53 PM
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TMOG posted...

Ok I'm gonna need you to explain to me how a $500 ballpoint pen is in any way an upgrade over a Bic that you can get in a pack of 20 for $5, unless you really want to show off how bad with money you are


I never said it was worth it, thats for individuals to determine. I never write so its not worth it to me. This example was taken from a thread where people got mad that AOC spent money on a nice pen for taking notes instead of just getting a bic. Nicer pens write smoother Im sure, and if youre job involves writing notes all day it might be worth it

008Zulu posted...
Expensive shit breaks just as easily as the cheap shit, is what they say to justify it. Maybe if they treated their expensive shit better growing up, their parents wouldn't have only gotten them cheap shit by brainwashing them like this.


Oh you almost had me angry at the start lol. Yeah nicer stuff tends to be more sustainable. My custom made Goodyear welted shoes can very well last me rest of my life

LightningThief posted...
I'd like to point out, more expensive does not always mean better.


It can vary depending on needs (quartz vs automatic watches) but the argument in the topic was different which it usually isthink there usually is a strong correlation with better tho

The_Korey posted...


Wine.


I dont drink wine and am far from a connoisseurbut this is obviously wrong lol

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No_U_L7
05/10/23 7:02:27 PM
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_____Cait posted...
Its really pathetic and shows your insecurity if this really matters to you.


Being surrounded by ignorance offends me, if it doesnt offend youwhat does that say about you

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Jiek_Fafn
05/10/23 7:05:28 PM
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CE hates paying any amount of money for anything. So they'll weirdly hate paying $5 for something just as much as $500 for the same type of product or service.

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_____Cait
05/10/23 7:06:48 PM
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No_U_L7 posted...
Being surrounded by ignorance offends me, if it doesnt offend youwhat does that say about you

Go buy your 300 dollar pens then. Watch literally nobody be impressed, and possibly think you are bad with money.

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R1masher
05/10/23 7:07:10 PM
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I concur old chap, why i was just having this self same conversation with my polo chum Nipsy Caruthers the third and he had the audacity to compare a two bit trollop with my wife imagine the gall

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No_U_L7
05/10/23 7:08:43 PM
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_____Cait posted...


Go buy your 300 dollar pens then. Watch literally nobody be impressed, and possibly think you are bad with money.


If I used pens a lot, enjoyed the pens and could comfortably affordwhat is wrong with that?

I dont use pens tho and barely write

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Kami_no_Kami
05/10/23 7:11:16 PM
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No_U_L7 posted...
I dont drink wine and am far from a connoisseurbut this is obviously wrong lol
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blind_wine_tasting

Tldr: In blind taste tests, wine tasting experts are incredibly inconsistent and outright unable to tell the difference between high quality and low quality wine.
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_____Cait
05/10/23 7:11:38 PM
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No_U_L7 posted...
If I used pens a lot, enjoyed the pens and could comfortably affordwhat is wrong with that?

I dont use pens tho and barely write

Its fine if you want to use the pen.

Its really weird to care that others dont.

And the pen is just the placeholder for anything else.

The only things that should be considered with pricing are things that could be dangerous if they broke.

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BloodMoon7
05/10/23 7:12:02 PM
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Idk I paid $50 for NSO+ and I don't see much of a difference from base NSO at $20.

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No_U_L7
05/10/23 7:13:10 PM
#27:


Kami_no_Kami posted...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blind_wine_tasting

Tldr: In blind taste tests, wine tasting experts are incredibly inconsistent and outright unable to tell the difference between different qualities of wine.


Meh I know nothing about wine but I still think youre wrong even with source lol

_____Cait posted...


Its fine if you want to use the pen.

Its really weird to care that others dont.

And the pen is just the placeholder for anything else.

The only things that should be considered with pricing are things that could be dangerous if they broke.


I dont care that others dont want to use a penI care that people cant even acknowledge theres a difference between an expensive and a cheap pen because they both write

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littlebro07
05/10/23 7:14:08 PM
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I have a $500 montblanc pen with my name engraved on the clip

It sits on a display case never being used lol

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_____Cait
05/10/23 7:14:20 PM
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No_U_L7 posted...
Meh I know nothing about wine but I still think youre wrong even with source lol

I dont care that others dont want to use a penI care that people cant even acknowledge theres a difference between an expensive and a cheap pen because they both write

People know there is.

They dont care.

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No_U_L7
05/10/23 7:16:18 PM
#31:


_____Cait posted...


People know there is.

They dont care.


Then admit theres a difference and you dont care. Dont literally say its exactly the same

LightningThief posted...

You aren't saying anything that changed what I said.

Being more expensive does not remotely indicate that something is inherently better. You can feel it's better, but your feelings mean absolutely nothing to a fact of something actually being better.

Pointing at some example of something you think is better when compared doesn't change this.


Again sure, but there is a strong correlation between price and quality

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LightningThief
05/10/23 7:16:54 PM
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No_U_L7 posted...
It can vary depending on needs (quartz vs automatic watches) but the argument in the topic was different which it usually isthink there usually is a strong correlation with better tho
You aren't saying anything that changed what I said.

Being more expensive does not remotely indicate that something is inherently better. You can feel it's better, you can tell yourself it's better to rationalize any and all expensive purchases. However, your feelings mean absolutely nothing to a fact of something actually being better.

Pointing at some example of something you think is better when compared doesn't change this.
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ANort175
05/10/23 7:17:01 PM
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No_U_L7 posted...
Meh I know nothing about wine but I still think youre wrong even with source lol
"You posted proof to back up your argument, but I don't care, I still think you're wrong" like damn dude even with your shitty gimmick aside you're still a fucking awful poster.


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_____Cait
05/10/23 7:17:25 PM
#34:


No_U_L7 posted...
Then admit theres a difference and you dont care. Dont literally say its exactly the same

Again sure, but there is a strong correlation between price and quality

Never said it is exactly the same.

Why does this matter?

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LightningThief
05/10/23 7:18:48 PM
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No_U_L7 posted...
Again sure, but there is a strong correlation between price and quality
Second verse, same as the first.
Pointing at some example of something you think is better when compared doesn't change this.

You aren't saying anything that changed what I said.

Being more expensive does not remotely indicate that something is inherently better.

Going, "bUt CoRrElAtIoN" does not change, being more expensive does not remotely indicate that something is inherently better.
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Lost_All_Senses
05/10/23 7:20:36 PM
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You sound easy to rip off right now lol. You sound like someone who pays asking price at the pawn shop.

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No_U_L7
05/10/23 7:22:50 PM
#37:


ANort175 posted...

"You posted proof to back up your argument, but I don't care, I still think you're wrong" like damn dude even with your shitty gimmick aside you're still a fucking awful poster.



Lol sorry, wine is a big industry of which I know nothing and Im not willing to put in the research to prove you wrong when I dont care about wine at all

LightningThief posted...

You aren't saying anything that changed what I said.

Being more expensive does not remotely indicate that something is inherently better. You can feel it's better, you can tell yourself it's better to rationalize any and all expensive purchases. However, your feelings mean absolutely nothing to a fact of something actually being better.

Pointing at some example of something you think is better when compared doesn't change this.


Idk what youre trying to argue here. I never even said the word better in the op. But generally the increased price is there for a reason. You can argue the definition of better all you want, but if a more expensive shirt is softer than a cheaper rougher one Id say its better. Is there someone out there who prefers rough cotton and would disagreemaybe

_____Cait posted...


Never said it is exactly the same.

Why does this matter?


Not you specifically, the people Im calling out in this topic. Because literally all the examples I listed are from mine or other topics where people have said word for word there is no difference

Why do I care? Apologies for trying to educate others I guess

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ArsGoetia
05/10/23 7:23:57 PM
#38:


tc has a cool vibe
like the andrew tate of gamefaqs
pay them no mind tc, they are just jealous
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Gamingsince1989
05/10/23 7:24:25 PM
#40:


Alcohol is an easy one. Cheap alcohol gets you drunk just as much as quality alcohol. I pay more for the taste, but the cheap stuff does the job when nothing else is around.
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No_U_L7
05/10/23 7:26:31 PM
#41:


Lost_All_Senses posted...
You sound easy to rip off right now lol. You sound like someone who pays asking price at the pawn shop.


Nah I dont buy used things, would never go to a pawn shop

Gamingsince1989 posted...
Alcohol is an easy one. Cheap alcohol gets you drunk just as much as quality alcohol. I pay more for the taste, but the cheap stuff does the job when nothing else is around.


You literally just admitted theres a difference.and taste is a big difference. I also find it affects hangovers

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Lost_All_Senses
05/10/23 7:29:21 PM
#42:


No_U_L7 posted...
Nah I dont buy used things, would never go to a pawn shop

Whoops. Got stunted on. Fuck.

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Crazyman93
05/10/23 7:30:53 PM
#43:


No_U_L7 posted...
A timex and a Rolex watch
The Rolex does not keep time 500 dollars better than the Timex. That's the real issue. "Is it x dollars better?"

No_U_L7 posted...
Hanes and billy Reid t shirts
Why? They both tear the same if I snag them on something. Both get dirty the same. Based on that, I'll buy the one that's cheaper to replace.

No_U_L7 posted...
Gas station sunglasses and Randolph engineering
Yeah, there is a difference, I'll give you that. The expensive ones get lost or accidentally busted 20 minutes after you take them somewhere and the cheap ass ones you buy at the gas station to replace them hang around for a decade.

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NoxObscuras
05/10/23 7:31:55 PM
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No_U_L7 posted...
Then admit theres a difference and you dont care. Dont literally say its exactly the same
They literally can't be "exactly the same" when they have a different brand name label on them. So isn't it reasonable to say that those people were using hyperbole?

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No_U_L7
05/10/23 7:34:27 PM
#45:


Crazyman93 posted...

The Rolex does not keep time 500 dollars better than the Timex. That's the real issue. "Is it x dollars better?"

Why? They both tear the same if I snag them on something. Both get dirty the same. Based on that, I'll buy the one that's cheaper to replace.

Yeah, there is a difference, I'll give you that. The expensive ones get lost or accidentally busted 20 minutes after you take them somewhere and the cheap ass ones you buy at the gas station to replace them hang around for a decade.


Sounds like youre my target audience for this topic

You can think that way all you wantjust sounds like youre cheap which is fine. I prefer nicer things and have no problem replacing the items on the right side of the column if something were to happen to them

But the feeling of an automatic watch on my wrist, Pima cotton on my torso and sunglasses that actually block sun without obscuring sight are worth it

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No_U_L7
05/10/23 7:35:18 PM
#46:


NoxObscuras posted...

They literally can't be "exactly the same" when they have a different brand name label on them. So isn't it reasonable to say that those people were using hyperbole?


No, they were saying they were exactly the samesome people actually believe this. Or they literally cant tell the difference

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Gamingsince1989
05/10/23 7:39:15 PM
#48:


No_U_L7 posted...
Nah I dont buy used things, would never go to a pawn shop

You literally just admitted theres a difference.and taste is a big difference. I also find it affects hangovers
Taste is the only difference; you still get drunk just the same on a $20 bottle as a $200 bottle. Also, taste is subjective as well. I have friends who like the taste of Jack Daniels whereas I think it tastes disgusting.
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FigureOfSpeech
05/10/23 7:40:45 PM
#49:


No_U_L7 posted...
But there is absolutely a difference

A timex and a Rolex watch

A bic and a montblanc pen

Hanes and billy Reid t shirts

Gas station sunglasses and Randolph engineering

meh not really. a better example for your argument would be something like...

a top of the line gaming PC with all of the most recent hardware and a TI-82 calculator

or

newest model smartphone and rotary-dial landline phone

or

100+ year old limited batch bottle of wine and 5 Liter box of Franzia

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NoxObscuras
05/10/23 7:41:46 PM
#50:


No_U_L7 posted...
Sounds like youre my target audience for this topic

You can think that way all you wantjust sounds like youre cheap which is fine. I prefer nicer things and have no problem replacing the items on the right side of the column if something were to happen to them

But the feeling of an automatic watch on my wrist, Pima cotton on my torso and sunglasses that actually block sun without obscuring sight are worth it
You sound like the perfect customer for Prada

https://www.prada.com/us/en/men/ready_to_wear/t-shirts_and_polo_shirts/products.Stretch_cotton_T_shirt.UJN712_1YDP_F0009_S_211.html

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No_U_L7
05/10/23 7:41:46 PM
#51:


Gamingsince1989 posted...

Taste is the only difference; you still get drunk just the same on a $20 bottle as a $200 bottle. Also, taste is subjective as well. I have friends who like the taste of Jack Daniels whereas I think it tastes disgusting.


I dont know what youre arguing lol. In a drink, taste is 99% of the reason I buy something

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LordOfTheCats
05/10/23 7:42:58 PM
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I'm surprised we got this many posts in and haven't mentioned generic vs brand name drugs yet (unless I missed a post somewhere).

Generic drugs are a medication with literally the exact same ingredients as the brand-name drug, are taken the same way, and give you the same effect. Yet they cost way less.
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