Poll of the Day > School shootings are so common in the US that Virginia school board is arguing

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Grendel_Prime 05/08/23 8:20:03 PM #51:	adjl posted... See, you say this, but you came into this topic specifically to respond to everyone living in fear of having their kids be murdered, as opposed to the position people actually hold and are expressing: that too many kids are being murdered and something needs to be done to cut down on that number. You're not really in a position to criticize others (especially those are are literally responding to exactly what you said) for creating imaginary conversations. Yes. Quite bogus to claim others are ignoring him when he continually fails to acknowledge people that are responding to - even directly quoting - his posts. Also rather bogus to claim people are blowing things out of proportion when 5000+ children (not to mention the tens of thousands of adults) are being shot each year in the US. Genuinely curious if he can put a number on what he would deem a "worthwhile" number of children being shot before any action is taken to impact the role guns play in these incidents. Where is the line? At what point do we go from "Well, that's just the price of freedom" to "We need gun reform"? How many more children need to be shot to move the needle for you? --- http://i.imgur.com/ocx9d7F.gifv <cite>Grendel_Prime posted [p:973350282] in School sho... [t:80435882]...</cite> <quote>adjl posted... </cite><quote>See, you say this, but you came into this topic specifically to respond to everyone living in fear of having their kids be murdered, as opposed to the position people actually hold and are expressing: that too many kids are being murdered and something needs to be done to cut down on that number. You're not really in a position to criticize others (especially those are are literally responding to exactly what you said) for creating imaginary conversations.</quote>Yes. Quite bogus to claim others are ignoring him when he continually fails to acknowledge people that are responding to - even directly quoting - his posts.Also rather bogus to claim people are blowing things out of proportion when 5000+ children (not to mention the tens of thousands of adults) are being shot each year in the US.Genuinely curious if he can put a number on what he would deem a "worthwhile" number of children being shot before any action is taken to impact the role guns play in these incidents. Where is the line? At what point do we go from "Well, that's just the price of freedom" to "We need gun reform"? How many more children need to be shot to move the needle for you?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 05/08/23 9:59:51 PM #52:	Grendel_Prime posted... Genuinely curious if he can put a number on what he would deem a "worthwhile" number of children being shot before any action is taken to impact the role guns play in these incidents. Where is the line? At what point do we go from "Well, that's just the price of freedom" to "We need gun reform"? How many more children need to be shot to move the needle for you? Indeed. By framing it as "this isn't common enough to worry about," the implication is made that it could be common enough to worry about if it were to happen more often. One wonders what that threshold is. Personally (since those of us saying this is too many must also have a threshold that's considered acceptable, and zero unfortunately isn't realistic), I draw the line at being higher than the average among other developed countries. Somebody always has to be above average, so I'm fine with discounting variations that can be explained by random chance, but being nearly 20 times higher is very obviously statistically significant. Comparing countries gets complicated because there are so many factors to consider, but the simple fact of the matter is that when everybody else is able to do a much better job than you, you need to take a step back, ask yourself why you suck so much, and make a serious effort to do better. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:973352379] in School sho... [t:80435882]...</cite> <quote>Grendel_Prime posted... </cite><quote>Genuinely curious if he can put a number on what he would deem a "worthwhile" number of children being shot before any action is taken to impact the role guns play in these incidents. Where is the line? At what point do we go from "Well, that's just the price of freedom" to "We need gun reform"? How many more children need to be shot to move the needle for you?</quote>Indeed. By framing it as "this isn't common enough to worry about," the implication is made that it could be common enough to worry about if it were to happen more often. One wonders what that threshold is.Personally (since those of us saying this is too many must also have a threshold that's considered acceptable, and zero unfortunately isn't realistic), I draw the line at being higher than the average among other developed countries. Somebody always has to be above average, so I'm fine with discounting variations that can be explained by random chance, but being nearly 20 times higher is very obviously statistically significant. Comparing countries gets complicated because there are so many factors to consider, but the simple fact of the matter is that when everybody else is able to do a much better job than you, you need to take a step back, ask yourself why you suck so much, and make a serious effort to do better.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Monopoman 05/09/23 2:30:43 AM #53:	Looks like the USA is the only country where kids and young adults from 1-19 die from guns more than any other way. https://www.kff.org/global-health-policy/issue-brief/child-and-teen-firearm-mortality-in-the-u-s-and-peer-countries/ --- Getting too damn old for this crap! <cite>Monopoman posted [p:973356007] in School sho... [t:80435882]...</cite> <quote>Looks like the USA is the only country where kids and young adults from 1-19 die from guns more than any other way.https://www.kff.org/global-health-policy/issue-brief/child-and-teen-firearm-mortality-in-the-u-s-and-peer-countries/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zareth 05/09/23 3:57:19 AM #54:	Grendel_Prime posted... Quite bogus to claim others are ignoring him The snowflake who puts people who call out his bullshit on ignore is upset people are ignoring him? LMFAO --- What would Bligh do? <cite>Zareth posted [p:973356590] in School sho... [t:80435882]...</cite> <quote>Grendel_Prime posted... </cite><quote>Quite bogus to claim others are ignoring him</quote>The snowflake who puts people who call out his bullshit on ignore is upset people are ignoring him? LMFAO</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nade_Duck 05/09/23 7:49:24 AM #55:	Ozmose posted... Why don't you leave? I was here long before you were. we like him tho --- http://i.imgur.com/ElACjJD.gifv "Most of the time, I have a whole lot more sperm inside me than most women do." - adjl <cite>Nade_Duck posted [p:973358328] in School sho... [t:80435882]...</cite> <quote>Ozmose posted... </cite><quote>Why don't you leave? I was here long before you were.</quote>we like him tho</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 05/09/23 8:18:37 AM #56:	Monopoman posted... Looks like the USA is the only country where kids and young adults from 1-19 die from guns more than any other way. https://www.kff.org/global-health-policy/issue-brief/child-and-teen-firearm-mortality-in-the-u-s-and-peer-countries/ The only developed country, at least. I'm sure there are plenty of active war zones where that's also the case, not that that really helps the position much. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:973358667] in School sho... [t:80435882]...</cite> <quote>Monopoman posted... </cite><quote>Looks like the USA is the only country where kids and young adults from 1-19 die from guns more than any other way.https://www.kff.org/global-health-policy/issue-brief/child-and-teen-firearm-mortality-in-the-u-s-and-peer-countries/</quote>The only developed country, at least. I'm sure there are plenty of active war zones where that's also the case, not that that really helps the position much.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MeatiestMeatus 05/09/23 8:50:42 AM #57:	Zareth posted... The snowflake who puts people who call out his bullshit on ignore is upset people are ignoring him? LMFAO Sure is! Perpetual victim like those "America First" right wing goons but oh yeah he's not right wing lmao --- If you rise up to heaven I'll turn the sun to blind you If you sleep deep in hell I have chains to bind you <cite>MeatiestMeatus posted [p:973359076] in School sho... [t:80435882]...</cite> <quote>Zareth posted...<quote>The snowflake who puts people who call out his bullshit on ignore is upset people are ignoring him? LMFAO</quote>Sure is! Perpetual victim like those "America First" right wing goons but oh yeah he's not right wing lmao </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lil_Bit83 05/10/23 8:55:16 AM #58:	papercup posted... Texas wants to train kids in treating gunshot wounds. This country is beyond fucked. Those sections are fucked anyway. That depends on if most of the country follows its shitty example or not. I personally hope there's gonna eventually be a turn around back to even stricter gun restrictions. If a complete ban occurs, the trigger happy lunatics will point the fingers at everyone but themselves. --- But I'd trade all my tomorrows, for a single yesterday <cite>Lil_Bit83 posted [p:973379380] in School sho... [t:80435882]...</cite> <quote>papercup posted... </cite><quote>Texas wants to train kids in treating gunshot wounds.This country is beyond fucked.</quote>Those sections are fucked anyway. That depends on if most of the country follows its shitty example or not. I personally hope there's gonna eventually be a turn around back to even stricter gun restrictions. If a complete ban occurs, the trigger happy lunatics will point the fingers at everyone but themselves.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 05/10/23 9:05:10 AM #59:	The annoying thing is that a complete ban isn't necessary (or even helpful, arguably), but because the NRA has whipped people into a frenzy over the slightest hint of regulation, they see it in such black-and-white terms. Most of what's needed is just codifying into law what responsible gun owners already do. Those that are responsible shouldn't have anything to fear. Those that aren't shouldn't have guns anyway, so their complaints can be ignored. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:973379503] in School sho... [t:80435882]...</cite> <quote>The annoying thing is that a complete ban isn't necessary (or even helpful, arguably), but because the NRA has whipped people into a frenzy over the slightest hint of regulation, they see it in such black-and-white terms. Most of what's needed is just codifying into law what responsible gun owners already do. Those that are responsible shouldn't have anything to fear. Those that aren't shouldn't have guns anyway, so their complaints can be ignored.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 05/12/23 10:28:47 AM #60:	A complete ban would be impossible. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms, Switch: SW-1900-5502-7912 <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:973424249] in School sho... [t:80435882]...</cite> <quote>A complete ban would be impossible.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DirtBasedSoap 05/12/23 10:30:56 AM #61:	Nade_Duck posted... we like him tho --- im gay <cite>DirtBasedSoap posted [p:973424292] in School sho... [t:80435882]...</cite> <quote>Nade_Duck posted... </cite><quote>we like him tho</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 05/12/23 2:12:15 PM #62:	Revelation34 posted... A complete ban would be impossible. Not impossible, except insofar as you can never truly prevent 100% of crimes from happening, but trying to enact it would be a massive undertaking, involve no small amount of bloodshed, and probably wouldn't actually result in any better outcomes than sensible regulation would. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:973428467] in School sho... [t:80435882]...</cite> <quote>Revelation34 posted... </cite><quote>A complete ban would be impossible.</quote>Not impossible, except insofar as you can never truly prevent 100% of crimes from happening, but trying to enact it would be a massive undertaking, involve no small amount of bloodshed, and probably wouldn't actually result in any better outcomes than sensible regulation would.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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