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Especially considering Kiara's a Hololive member, not Holostars. Of the freakin course she knows nothing about it. There's no point asking her about it.

CyricZ posted...

Oh shit and Kiara's like the only one live right now so of course everyone's there wanting to talk about it.

Like geez free advice: don't ask any of the talent about departures of other talent, like ever. It's fucking rude.

Also against the rules, I'm pretty sure. Like, I don't check each stream, but I'm pretty sure "Don't bring up other talents unless the streamer brings then up first" is a basic rule.

Yeah, I remember some talents specifically put that up as one of their rules on-screen for their before/after streaming screen

Renne posted...

https://twitter.com/hololive_En/status/1694696184223539569
Sorry for their fans. All I'll say.

Dayum! I'm gonna miss grampa and the maglord. Their shenanigans with Cali and Kronii were legendary.

Also, Pako kinda cursed, huh?

Fuck, that's sad

Hopefully they show up again as indies. A shame we won't get more collabs of them with Calli and Kroni, these were gold.

Funkydog posted...

And one of them is supposedly still doing things as their other persona.

Guess now we know why.

Also, I'm guessing the lack of graduation stream is their own decision, for some reason they can't disclose, they decided to not do it. They left on good terms and on their own decision, so I'm sure management did offer them to do a graduation stream.

Being relatively well versed in business statement lingo, this feels like, with that statement anyway, that the two likely decided to not renew their contract.

I don't know much about Magni admittedly but a friend of mine mentioned him already being a big YouTuber or living with one beforehand, could be part of the decision.

With Vesper having followed him before Hololive, I would wager it's probably just what's expected of the talents versus what he's willing to offer time wise. Dude is big on taking care of his entire family, so he probably just decided to go a route that lets him manage his pace on his own.

Just guesses though. I don't think the reasons would have acting to do with the TCBN Music thing from the wording, could be wrong but I don't feel anything forced/pointed in the statement.

So you don't think they got fired?

Based on the wording of the announcement, no.

Zikten posted...

So you don't think they got fired?

Nah, the absolute worst case scenario would be a "So you're choosing not to accept your new contact" situation for them, which still isn't too bad. Feels more like a mutual "we can't give what you want out of us so let's just split here" situation on amicable terms.

Renne posted...

https://twitter.com/hololive_En/status/1694696184223539569
Sorry for their fans. All I'll say.

Damn, and they were the only ones from Stars EN I really followed in any capacity

Zikten posted...

So you don't think they got fired?

Rushia, for comparison, was fired.

Still seems weird for Vesper to up and disappear given the amount of stuff he was hyping up. And I'm not buying the "contract negotiations" line because they definitely would've gone over that before doing the 2.0 and he seemed legit thrilled for things in the works. The only way I could see him quitting is if he literally *couldn't* anymore.

Mag I can believe given his other channel. Man couldn't sit and do nothing due to unknown circumstances forever.

Which leaves the main question mark as what kept em away for a month and some change with no apparent end in sight, prompting this.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/8/2/AATbylAAEx52.jpg

It truly is the ender of friendships(and careers, apparently) lol

Renne posted...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/8/2/AATbylAAEx52.jpg

She really is a reaper, huh?

Saw that picture somewhere else, and someone joked that Ollie's safe from her twice because she's a zombie, she's already dead to begin with, so Calli can't reap her XD

That picture also reminds me that, in my opinion at least, they really should have Irys officially assuming the now empty Space slot in Council (thus officially making her a member of Council as well). It's weird to have a representation for Time but not Space, with us being fully aware that there was one before. If we're looking for someone to assume the now empty slot, then the best choice would be someone who is basically a close friend that is already in Hololive EN to begin with but has no group to associate with, which means Irys.

Twinklestar posted...

Saw that picture somewhere else, and someone joked that Ollie's safe from her twice because she's a zombie, she's already dead to begin with, so Calli can't reap her XD

That picture also reminds me that, in my opinion at least, they really should have Irys officially assuming the now empty Space slot in Council (thus officially making her a member of Council as well). It's weird to have a representation for Time but not Space, with us being fully aware that there was one before. If we're looking for someone to assume the now empty slot, then the best choice would be someone who is basically a close friend that is already in Hololive EN to begin with but has no group to associate with, which means Irys.

She already is, that's why it's called CouncilRys and why they did their 2 year anniversary together,

Voidgolem posted...

Rushia, for comparison, was fired.

Still seems weird for Vesper to up and disappear given the amount of stuff he was hyping up. And I'm not buying the "contract negotiations" line because they definitely would've gone over that before doing the 2.0 and he seemed legit thrilled for things in the works. The only way I could see him quitting is if he literally *couldn't* anymore.

Mag I can believe given his other channel. Man couldn't sit and do nothing due to unknown circumstances forever.

Which leaves the main question mark as what kept em away for a month and some change with no apparent end in sight, prompting this.

Well, regardless, Vesper is already back on his old PL account and Magnii is streaming on his PL self too.

yeah that's the point where I go from "what happened?" to just being annoyed at him for it.

Still, seems whatever happened, happened on good-enough terms

Twinklestar posted...

Especially considering Kiara's a Hololive member, not Holostars. Of the freakin course she knows nothing about it. There's no point asking her about it.

She definetly knows whats going on she just can't say it
And you think hololive and holostars members don't talk to each other? lol

Oh I'm sure they do talk to each other, it's just I doubt she knows that much about the management side of holostars, so I doubt she knows much about their decision to graduate Magni and Vesper

They did a raffle for the holosummer bingo and Bae won the grand prize which is 1 million yen to use for any project/stream idea you want

majin_nemesis posted...

She definetly knows whats going on she just can't say it
And you think hololive and holostars members don't talk to each other? lol

I'm sure she knows but, she doesn't know them that well.

I missed Fauna got new merch. A hat that says Man I Love Fauna.

majin_nemesis posted...

She definetly knows whats going on she just can't say it
And you think hololive and holostars members don't talk to each other? lol

considering Calli, notable collab partner, straight up went "we know as much as you all do" I'm going to fairly confidently say that no, Wawa probably doesn't know what's going on. Still dunno why people think she would when the -other Stars- already said they were blindsided by it.

Voidgolem posted...

considering Calli, notable collab partner, straight up went "we know as much as you all do" I'm going to fairly confidently say that no, Wawa probably doesn't know what's going on. Still dunno why people think she would when the -other Stars- already said they were blindsided by it.

People act like whenever someone from another department departs the company, it's everyone's obligation to know the exact reasons for their departure.

https://twitter.com/Randonneuring/status/1695232515005714618?s=20
Check your boy out tomorrow maybe.

the whole thing still got me feelin' "ehhh" so I'mma have to pass for now

Ushiromiya posted...

https://twitter.com/Randonneuring/status/1695232515005714618?s=20
Check your boy out tomorrow maybe.

Can't make this up. Got into Holostars, build a modest fanbase, abandon Holostars after your first contract and funnel everyone to your indie account. They completely crippled and may have killed the holostars en project.

Renne posted...

Can't make this up. Got into Holostars, build a modest fanbase, abandon Holostars after your first contract and funnel everyone to your indie account. They completely crippled and may have killed the holostars en project.

That's a take.

LordFarquad1312 posted...

That's a take.

Expect to see it lots unfortunately.

Renne posted...

Can't make this up. Got into Holostars, build a modest fanbase, abandon Holostars after your first contract and funnel everyone to your indie account. They completely crippled and may have killed the holostars en project.

I suppose it's bigger now than back then, but even Coco didn't have a perfectly smooth transition from Hololive to Indie as far as maintaining fan base. I really doubt there will be significant increase in his stuff(although Lando is way bigger than his other life).

I don't think there'll be much a dent in the Holostars EN plans. Actually how this happened is not terribly different from past Holostars graduations.

New streaming website underestimates Hololive audience and crashes, delays the concert for an hour. Expected it honestly.

Renne posted...

Can't make this up. Got into Holostars, build a modest fanbase, abandon Holostars after your first contract and funnel everyone to your indie account. They completely crippled and may have killed the holostars en project.

I mean, clearly you can make it up given we still have no idea as to why they decided to leave

Concert postponed. These companies never learn.
https://twitter.com/hololive_En/status/1695413241319698729

Renne posted...

Can't make this up. Got into Holostars, build a modest fanbase, abandon Holostars after your first contract and funnel everyone to your indie account. They completely crippled and may have killed the holostars en project.

This is a huge take. It never works. Pikamee to Henya, Coco to kson, Rushia to Vshojo. ll not as big as they were.

Balnazarr posted...

This is a huge take. It never works. Pikamee to Henya, Coco to kson, Rushia to Vshojo. ll not as big as they were.

Especially going back to indie from corporate. People really underestimate how insanely helpful it is to have someone to check trends and promote you. Not to mention the inherent boost from fans of the brand that may but necessarily be your own.

Balnazarr posted...

This is a huge take. It never works. Pikamee to Henya, Coco to kson, Rushia to Vshojo. ll not as big as they were.

For real.

If it doesn't work for the people at the very top, why do people think someone relatively minor in comparison will see success?

Either way, I'm excited for the collab between Lando and Randon, it'll be good to see em after so long

Big fucking W from Cover. Streaming day 1 for free after the Z-an fuckup.
https://youtu.be/GBxt2fq_Zek

Renne posted...

Big fucking W from Cover. Streaming day 1 for free after the Z-an fuckup.
https://youtu.be/GBxt2fq_Zek

As in we all get to watch?
Sweet!

A certain orc salaryman is streaming: https://www.twitch.tv/randonchannel

Or.. a certain green orb, I guess?

going with the working theory that Haachama was Bray Wyatt this whole time.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mSPdwI6WD6Y

Mother Nature really sucks at her job

https://youtu.be/tsGy4vKb3Hs?si=OYS8pSWZFM8cU60J

Miko and Ame together.

I know 0.01% Japanese and I somehow understand Ame better.

Miko is dangerous around blondes Ame is lucky she escaped unscathed

God I love miComet

Honestly underwhelming considering this was going to be paid. Not even 2 hours and a lot of members only got one performance. They could have had an EN grouping and some others they didn't bother with. Not liking the direction their paid concerts are going, was underwhelmed by Connect the World as well.

Renne posted...

Honestly underwhelming considering this was going to be paid. Not even 2 hours and a lot of members only got one performance. They could have had an EN grouping and some others they didn't bother with. Not liking the direction their paid concerts are going, was underwhelmed by Connect the World as well.

I looked back and realize Holofes cost more than I remember so my complaints are a little unfair for this concert. Still think they could have crammed in a few more songs if the MC segments weren't so long.