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KillaHarkan
04/14/23 8:51:52 PM
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https://slaynews.com/news/florida-pass-law-allowing-pedophiles-executed/

Lawmakers in Florida are expected to pass legislation that will allow pedophiles to be executed in the state.

If passed, the law will empower courts to sentence pedophiles to death if theyre convicted of sexual battery on a child under 12 years old.

The House is scheduled Thursday to take up its version of the bill (HB 1297), while the Senate version (SB 1342) was approved Tuesday by the Rules Committee, positioning it to go to the full Senate, according to a report from CBS News.

The Supreme Court has previously ruled that imposing capital punishment in rape cases is unconstitutional.

However, that ruling may now change with the current justices.

In the United States, there has not been an execution for a crime that did not include murder since 1964.

After the bill passed the Rules Committee, Senate bill sponsor Jonathan Martin, a former prosecutor, sent out a warning to child sex offenders.

If an individual rapes an 11-year-old, a 10-year-old, a 2-year-old or a 5-year-old, they should be subject to the death penalty, Martin said.

Aaron Wayt, who represented the Florida Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers at the meeting, blasted the legislation, however.

Wayt defended pedophiles against the death penalty under the guise of caring about victims, according to the CBS report.

This bill invites a longer, costlier (legal) process for the victim and their family that they will endure, Wayt said.

While this crime, anyone convicted of it is vile, heinous, the Constitution itself, the case law, the Supreme Court demands a maximum of life in prison.

And so while its not the vengeance we all want, its the justice that the Constitution demands.

Meanwhile, Senate Minority Leader Lauren Book, a Democrat and victim of child sex abuse, appeared to support the bill.

This is a life sentence that is handed down to young children, Book said.

Were talking about the youngest of the young in this bill.

I was one of those kids. I still to this day at 38 years old deal with the very, very real lasting effects of this crime.

It never goes away. Sometimes you close your eyes and you see it.

I dont get a chance to make it stop.

The CBS report explains, Under the bills, defendants could receive death sentences based on the recommendations of at least eight of 12 jurors.

Judges would have discretion to impose the death penalty or sentence defendants to life in prison.

If fewer than eight jurors recommend death, defendants would receive life sentences....
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catfan2008
04/14/23 8:52:59 PM
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so basically it's not for pedos but instead it's for child rapists
it's literally for raping children
I am not sure if I can give an opinion I want tho

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Spiderman23J
04/14/23 8:53:31 PM
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Fair

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AloofHermit
04/14/23 8:53:54 PM
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Spiderman23J posted...
Fair


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Solution_45
04/14/23 8:54:19 PM
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Spiderman23J posted...
Fair

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VampireCoyote
04/14/23 8:54:39 PM
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Abolish the death penalty.


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JuanCarlos1
04/14/23 8:56:12 PM
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Cant think of anybody more deserving of this punishment. Still uncomfortable sending somebody else to die, though I wouldnt hesitate if my kid was the victim.

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Jagr_68
04/14/23 8:56:49 PM
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Reading between the lines it's simple to see why the wheels are in motion for this.

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Turbam
04/14/23 9:00:28 PM
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You can pretty much guarantee that this is going to turn into a way to attack the LGBT community

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JuanCarlos1
04/14/23 9:01:39 PM
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Jagr_68 posted...
Reading between the lines it's simple to see why the wheels are in motion for this.


Ah...didnt think about that. Deathsantis is rapidly turning Florida into a place the Spanish Inquisition would be proud of.

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TMOG
04/14/23 9:03:59 PM
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On its face this looks like it could be a good idea (albeit this depends on your opinion of the death penalty)

But remember that at the same time they pass this law, conservatives are also really pushing that LGBT people, especially trans and drag queens, are unanimously pedophiles
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geno_16
04/14/23 9:04:39 PM
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If you're going to use capital punishment there's few crimes more deserving of it than raping a child, but...

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Yeah. This.
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Kim_Seong-a
04/14/23 9:08:24 PM
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Opposed to the death penalty on the principle that the state cant be trusted not to kill innocent people, but wouldnt lose sleep if people who sexually assault children took a dirt nap.

That said, it's worrying that the GOP has spent so much time trying to associate LGBT+ with child sex predators, and now just so happen to be trying to get the death penalty instituted for child sex predators.

Jagr_68 posted...
Reading between the lines it's simple to see why the wheels are in motion for this.


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Pepys_Monster
04/14/23 9:08:35 PM
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VampireCoyote posted...
Abolish the death penalty.
I agree with this, even though I'm against pedophiles. The death penalty ended years ago in Britain. The United States should get with the times. You can't bring an innocent man back to life.

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FortuneCookie
04/14/23 9:09:30 PM
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How long until Florida brings back execution by hanging?
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tehzeldafanboy
04/14/23 9:10:04 PM
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Pretty offensive implications being implied with some of these posts ITT

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TMOG
04/14/23 9:10:48 PM
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tehzeldafanboy posted...
Pretty offensive implications being implied with some of these posts ITT
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Quaxlyote
04/14/23 9:12:01 PM
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Shut up SMAL

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Alucard188
04/14/23 9:13:02 PM
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Jagr_68 posted...
Reading between the lines it's simple to see why the wheels are in motion for this.

Can't help but think they'll try and correlate this to gender affirming care as being sexual battery for children under 12. I don't like anything that's coming out of Florida right now. I'm against this ruling purely because of that.

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ZMythos
04/14/23 9:13:12 PM
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I'm against the death penalty in every circumstance.

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Calwings
04/14/23 9:16:40 PM
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ImAMarvel posted...
They'll use this to target who they want to target while completely ignoring all the Republican politicians out there who are actually molesting kids.

Turbam posted...
You can pretty much guarantee that this is going to turn into a way to attack the LGBT community

TMOG posted...
On its face this looks like it could be a good idea (albeit this depends on your opinion of the death penalty)

But remember that at the same time they pass this law, conservatives are also really pushing that LGBT people, especially trans and drag queens, are unanimously pedophiles

Alucard188 posted...
Can't help but think they'll try and correlate this to gender affirming care as being sexual battery for children under 12. I don't like anything that's coming out of Florida right now. I'm against this ruling purely because of that.

All of this. It might make logical sense if these laws were in the hands of logical people, but definitely not in the hands of the modern fascism-loving and LGBT-hating Republican party.

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Master_Kazuya
04/14/23 9:16:42 PM
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Turbam posted...
You can pretty much guarantee that this is going to turn into a way to attack the LGBT community

Yeah I didn't even consider this, it sucks and if they can kill LGBT people, other states might follow suit

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COVxy
04/14/23 9:18:59 PM
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Seems bad on all counts.

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CE_gonna_CE
04/14/23 9:23:28 PM
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Yeah.. this aint something to be trusting fucking Florida with

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SpiritSephiroth
04/14/23 9:24:39 PM
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Don't see the downside to this except for the fact that some innocent people could be executed. That's always a possibility with executions I guess...

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UnholyMudcrab
04/14/23 9:25:57 PM
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SpiritSephiroth posted...
Don't see the downside to this except for the fact that some innocent people could be executed. That's always a possibility with executions I guess...
Here's a hint: which groups have Republicans been trying to push as pedophiles and groomers for the last several years?

Also, "innocent people could be executed" is reason enough by itself to oppose it, regardless of anything else.

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ZMythos
04/14/23 9:26:17 PM
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SpiritSephiroth posted...
the fact that some innocent people could be executed.
Pretty big downside, tbh.

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tehzeldafanboy
04/14/23 9:28:40 PM
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TMOG posted...
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MarcyWarcy
04/14/23 9:28:49 PM
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SpiritSephiroth posted...
Don't see the downside to this except for the fact that some innocent people could be executed. That's always a possibility with executions I guess...


So you dont see the downside beside the really big glaring downside

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Flintlock_Staff
04/14/23 9:29:24 PM
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Pretty much my thoughts have been said. The "fun" part too is if you try to oppose it they'll just say you support pedophilia when we all know this is meant to eventually be applied to lgbt+ folks since it's coming from desantis/FL. Small silver lining is it's partially up to the jurors so maybe there are enough allies to say no for the death penalty when it's being applied to people it shouldn't be, though I'd rather not get to that point and test it.
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SpiritSephiroth
04/14/23 9:29:30 PM
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MarcyWarcy posted...
So you dont see the downside beside the really big glaring downside

Did you not see the "except" part? >_>

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TMOG
04/14/23 9:31:01 PM
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tehzeldafanboy posted...
Idgi. This is my main, look at the age lol
You know we can look at your badges to see that the account has been almost completely comatose until today right

How much did that "age" cost you
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DirkDiggles
04/14/23 9:32:27 PM
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Even though I think DeSatan can go straight to hell, I don't mind this law. Fuck child rapists.

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TheLiarParadox
04/14/23 9:35:08 PM
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I recall reading something 10 or 15 years ago about death penalty in these cases potentially leading to child molesters killing victims they otherwise would've left alive out of increased fear of repercussions. I'm not sure what merit it had and tbh I am not comfortable searching for things like that but that has always weighed on my mind as someone who experienced CSA and spoke out against their attacker.

I oppose the death penalty in general though.

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tehzeldafanboy
04/14/23 9:48:43 PM
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TMOG posted...
You know we can look at your badges to see that the account has been almost completely comatose until today right

How much did that "age" cost you
The "buying accounts" conspiracy theory never fails to make me laugh lmao
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hyperskate65
04/14/23 9:49:36 PM
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Hell yeah. Let's sign the rest of the country up, too.

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MarcyWarcy
04/14/23 9:51:17 PM
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Even if thats not an alt its post history is wall to wall misogynist bullshit

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Priere
04/14/23 9:52:20 PM
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No mercy for kid rapists.

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TheGoldenEel
04/14/23 9:53:27 PM
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VampireCoyote posted...
Abolish the death penalty.
this

also Im not sure how yall cant see the straight line from them accusing gay and trans people of being pedo groomers to these laws making it easier to kill people accused of being pedos

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Zikten
04/14/23 9:54:13 PM
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ZMythos posted...
I'm against the death penalty in every circumstance.
This

But also what about situations where someone gets accused but is actually innocent. Which just brings me back to one of the reasons I oppose the death penalty. That innocent people will sometimes be killed
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cjsdowg
04/14/23 10:03:08 PM
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People are too fast to say yes to this...

This state does not care about Rape victims.

https://twitter.com/PopCrave/status/1646951105593741313

So what is it really for?

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remandramdoll
04/14/23 10:03:26 PM
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Pretty obvious this will be used to target LGBT+ people

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TheGoldenEel
04/14/23 10:05:01 PM
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Also the Supreme Court has explicitly ruled that the death penalty is unconstitutional for non-homicide crimes, including child rape, per the 8th amendment banning cruel and unusual punishment

so this is Florida passing a blatantly unconstitutional law under the guise of protecting children specifically to get the far right SC to rule that its okay to kill people for crimes other than murder

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kennedy_v._Louisiana

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FortuneCookie
04/14/23 10:08:37 PM
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DirkDiggles posted...
Even though I think DeSatan can go straight to hell, I don't mind this law. Fuck child rapists.

This sets a bad precedent. I don't think they'll get to a point where they'll execute someone for shoplifting. But I could see them extending this even further. Maybe they'll extend it to cases of extreme domestic violence or repeated acts of animal cruelty. Again, I wouldn't mind seeing such people gone. But, if state-sanctioned executions are to be a thing, I think that's outside the reach of what is altogether justifiable.

But what does worry me is the thought of executing "terrorists." Suppose a member of a protest rally puts a brick through a window. Suppose a few of the protestors punch and kick a police officer who attempts to make an arrest before other protestors hold them back. Suppose a courtroom claims that everyone at the protest was a domestic terrorist -- even against evidence to the contrary. And, suppose that, because she's the only one whose face was clearly seen on camera, a 32-year-old mother of 3 is sentenced to death as an example of what happens when someone fights back against the system.

That's something to be worried about. This is Florida's government testing the waters by extending the death penalty to the least sympathetic group possible. Once that door is opened, there's no telling how far it could realistically go.
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VampireCoyote
04/14/23 10:10:02 PM
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All that shows is that they care more about fetuses than they care about rape victims

they dont care about either

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DarthAragorn
04/14/23 10:12:01 PM
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Jennywentnorth8 posted...
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They could pass a law banning Ketchup sales between 12:06 and 12:08 and you guys would still try to find a way to dress it up as "part of the lgbt genocide plan".

Not every single thing that ever happens is about that.
Fuck off, troll

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