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I actually have no idea what these ingredients the monster arena is giving me 99 of are.
I am interested in getting stone/death on a capture weapon and more AP on something.

ViewtifulJoe posted...

I actually have no idea what these ingredients the monster arena is giving me 99 of are.
I am interested in getting stone/death on a capture weapon and more AP on something.

You are literally on gamefaqs my dude.

Briefly amused myself with the idea of low level Wakka aggressively saying something like "Go to hell!" before lightly throwing a beachball. Then realised he wouldn't say that, he'd say "Go to hell, ya!" which is even better.

I can't wait to get Nimrook. The other Blitz teams are making some really bad shots that even Keepa can save, meanwhile it's still a whole operation to get into point blank range to hedge my bets against Nimrook.
Guy has about 10 games left.

-Grow up loving the sport of Blitzball
-Train all your life to be a Blitzball star.
-Form a team with your friends and fellow pro players.
-Make it big, world famous, everyone loves watching and supporting you.
-Ghosts that live in boulders all get together and teleport in some super freak Blitz prodigy from 1000 years ago.
-He's here to save the world but he has a free pass to trample your dreams while he's at it.
-He throws his team of actual players to the wayside and begins filling his team with random desk clerks, bored looking guards and underpaid chauffeurs.
-The newly formed post office/pringles factory/furniture store/millennium old water polo god hybrid team destroys you 6-14 to 0 in every game.
-Pro wrestlers mock your team and your home town laughs in agreement.
-People send each other tickets to watch you play live as a prank.
-Only alternative is to play oft-mocked games with other 14-0 victims.
-Your friends and fellow players become disheartened, some quit.
-Some are even replaced by the very same terrible players you used to thrash, the ones he banished from his team.
-At least when Sin destroys everything, you won't have to do this anymore.
-No hold on, he's got his Caladbolg upgraded, Sin's done.
-Jubilations and merriment, the blitzball games can continue forever.
-AAAAAHHH HAAAA HAAAA HAAAA HAAAA HAAAA HAA!!!!!!

Win tournament, prize is NO BESAID AUROCHS PLAYERS CAN LEARN THIS MOVE
Top scorer's prize is the exact same thing.

Cool.

It's all coming together. Nimrook is my new goalie replacing Keepa. Attack Reels is the tournament prize.

ViewtifulJoe posted...

It's all coming together. Nimrook is my new goalie replacing Keepa. Attack Reels is the tournament prize.

It's probably been eclipsed since then, but at the time of FFX's release, a fully-maxed Attack Reels was the single most powerful attack in franchise history, dealing just shy of 1,200,000 damage iirc (Tidus' ultimate overdrive comes in 2nd place).

masterpug53 posted...

It's probably been eclipsed since then, but at the time of FFX's release, a fully-maxed Attack Reels was the single most powerful attack in franchise history, dealing just shy of 1,200,000 damage iirc (Tidus' ultimate overdrive comes in 2nd place).

Oh that's about as promising as it gets, I've gotten Attack Reels before but never maxed out Wakka's weapon.
I like the idea that the beachball wielding maniac was once considered the strongest thing ever.

ViewtifulJoe posted...

Oh that's about as promising as it gets, I've gotten Attack Reels before but never maxed out Wakka's weapon.
I like the idea that the beachball wielding maniac was once considered the strongest thing ever.

You'll need Wakka's ultimate weapon (or anything with Break Damage Limit), and you'll pretty much have to complete the entire Sphere Grid to get his Strength up to that point. You'll also have to line up the 3 reels perfect every time, which doubles the amount of strikes Wakka makes (not very difficult to do, but still). Every attack reel equals 2 strikes, and 3 in a row nets you 12 strikes - so at max damage per hit, 99,999 x 12 = well over a million damage.

I think that's the case, anyway - been over 15 years since I played the game, lol, and I'm only familiar with the original version of the game. Back then the game's ultimate bosses were Shinryu and Nemesis, but I understand even tougher uber-bosses have been added since.

Hip new auto-kill.
Breath attack -> all three turn to stone -> insta-lose.
I knew I had the word Demonolith in my mind years after playing this game for some reason.

Watching your character do that little jump backwards when a slow enemy finally gets their turn and misses is the best feeling.

Just how rare are Simurghs meant to be? I see people jumping up and down yelling about how rare they are. Game just gave me all 10 in under 20 minutes. Is this normal?

Why does Seymour just kind of reappear within Sin again?
Last I think I saw of him was Seymour Flux on Gagazet, did Sin jump him offscreen? Did he immediately offer himself up when he heard Yunalesca and the Final Aeon were gone?

I hope there's an explanation because it'd sure be something if they saved this theme song for the random extra fight after the character got left in the dust by Yunalesca, Sin and Yu Yevon.
Honestly, Seymour Flux would have been easier to appreciate if they played this there and against Natus.

I guess he must have realized the whole final aeon angle wasn't gonna work at some point after Gagazet and figured he'd try just playing puppet master instead. That fight music is a banger though.

Also idk how he was planning to become the final fayth anyway when he was already dead. I thought Lulu or someone said that fayth were the souls of the living willingly being bound into the statues. But maybe I'm making that up or it's just unreliable narration. If part of an aeon can become a fayth, who's to say an unsent can't?

My guess is they composed a banger of a penultimate showdown theme, realized the old-school vibes didn't quite gel with the Jecht battle, but couldn't just let it go unused. Then someone suggested "hey, remember Seymour?"

masterpug53 posted...

My guess is they composed a banger of a penultimate showdown theme, realized the old-school vibes didn't quite gel with the Jecht battle, but couldn't just let it go unused. Then someone suggested "hey, remember Seymour?"

Makes as much sense as anything lol. Whatever the case, we got a rad song and a fight with a cool gimmick. It's not nearly as hard as any of his previous fights, but the spinny glyph things are a neat idea.

masterpug53 posted...

It's probably been eclipsed since then, but at the time of FFX's release, a fully-maxed Attack Reels was the single most powerful attack in franchise history, dealing just shy of 1,200,000 damage iirc (Tidus' ultimate overdrive comes in 2nd place).

Fun fact, this is only true because of the damage limit. Otherwise, it would be a physical attack from Auron's celestial weapon under optimal circumstances, but only in the original Japanese version - in all others (including American PS2, unlike most version differences), this got nerfed and the title would instead go to Kimahri's Nova.

Trumble posted...

Fun fact, this is only true because of the damage limit. Otherwise, it would be a physical attack from Auron's celestial weapon under optimal circumstances, but only in the original Japanese version - in all others (including American PS2, unlike most version differences), this got nerfed and the title would instead go to Kimahri's Nova.

What would the numbers have been with no damage limits?

Maybe (Xenoblade 1 spoilers) it didn't matter what his plan was since he either didn't have one or it sucked, the game just wanted to make you feel like you'd moved on to bigger and much more final things, like with Metal Face. Both Seymour and Metal Face are still just kind of around pushing their petty, poorly thought out schemes. Both decide to jump the party and die uncermoniously while the party have long since moved on to Yu Yevon/Sin and Egil/The Mechonis.
Xenoblade 1 clearly really really liked this game so it seems plausible what happened there could have come from here.

Still though, the song. Could have at least shared it with Dark Anima.

ViewtifulJoe posted...

Just how rare are Simurghs meant to be? I see people jumping up and down yelling about how rare they are. Game just gave me all 10 in under 20 minutes. Is this normal?

They aren't as rare as people think. You want rare, the tonberrys in the sunken cave only show up once in a blue moon.

bigtiggie23 posted...

They aren't as rare as people think. You want rare, the tonberrys in the sunken cave only show up once in a blue moon.

When I think back on monster hunting with a complete lack of fondness, tonberries in the sunken cave definitely stand out the most. Made even more insulting by the fact that the little bastards are supposed to be my personal spirit animal, dammit!

bigtiggie23 posted...

They aren't as rare as people think. You want rare, the tonberrys in the sunken cave only show up once in a blue moon.

They're the only thing I remember being a pain to capture. Supposedly if you stand in a certain blue corner of the cave they're more common, but who knows if that's just FFX's equivalent of holding down + B to catch pokemon.

masterpug53 posted...

Made even more insulting by the fact that the little bastards are supposed to be my personal spirit animal, dammit!

Oh yeah, I forgot they're also called pugs lol.

Don Tonberrys in Omega Ruins have been pretty infrequent too. I actually took two out without capturing by pushing my luck with Slice and Dice/Attack Reels earlier. I feel like that should count since capture weapons were used.

Hambo posted...

Oh yeah, I forgot they're also called pugs lol.

Bless your heart for not making me explain it :D

ViewtifulJoe posted...

Don Tonberrys in Omega Ruins have been pretty infrequent too. I actually took two out without capturing by pushing my luck with Slice and Dice/Attack Reels earlier. I feel like that should count since capture weapons were used.

I don't remember Don Tonberry hunting standing out, probably because the Omega Ruins were also good for general level / item grinding. As far as I can recall, hunting Tonberries was pretty much the only reason to be in the sunken cave at that late stage of the game, and it was such a slog.

Finally, a Behemoth cast meteor on me as he went down. I knew that wasn't something I made up. I've beaten a whole bunch of these things, guess the chance is pretty low.

The regular tonberrys are more annoying to try to capture because in the sunken cave half the fights are that stupid magic pot enemy.

ViewtifulJoe posted...

Hip new auto-kill.
Breath attack -> all three turn to stone -> insta-lose.
I knew I had the word Demonolith in my mind years after playing this game for some reason.

This is why the ability first strike often a lifesaver.
Whenever you encounter the monsters that does cheap opening strike, switch your character with first strike with Yuna and let her summon her Aeon.

Hambo posted...

What would the numbers have been with no damage limits?

Just over 5mil for Nova; about 365k per hit for Attack Reels; about 7.5mil for Auron's weapon.

This assumes max Str/Mag as applicable, 5x Cheer or Focus as applicable; 0 Def or Armor Broken enemy in the case of Attack Reels (the other two ignore defensive stats anyway); critical hit in the case of Auron and Nova (Attack Reels can't crit); and Berserk in Auron's case. And of course, nothing like Protect being in effect on the enemy's side, where applicable. Also, assuming randomization is in your favor as much as possible (reduce these numbers to 256/271ths of their current values if you want average rather than optimal randomization).

As a related note, most guaranteed-99999 enemy attacks do around the 2mil mark in the absence of damage limits IIRC. One notable exception is Dark Yojimbo's Zanmato, which is affected by Defence and is even possible to survive with a high-Defence, high-HP aeon using Shield.

ViewtifulJoe posted...

Finally, a Behemoth cast meteor on me as he went down. I knew that wasn't something I made up. I've beaten a whole bunch of these things, guess the chance is pretty low.

Many behemoth variants in other FF games has meteor as a final attack like Intangir in FF6 and Catoblepas in FF8.
On other games the meteor spell are used as a counter to magic attacks or summons.

I've really gotta boost Yuna up some levels. I've been using Tidus/Wakka/Rikku almost exclusively.
It was an isn't-broke-didn't-try-to-fix situation.

ViewtifulJoe posted...

I've really gotta boost Yuna up some levels. I've been using Tidus/Wakka/Rikku almost exclusively.
It was an isn't-broke-didn't-try-to-fix situation.

Tonberry trick let you farm AP easily.

Ricemills posted...

Tonberry trick let you farm AP easily.

Oh and just like that One-Eye's given me Yuna's triple AP item on the second fight.

This desert hide and seek game sure is energy consuming.
All this walking, so little action, it's like I'm really playing a PS4 game.

A chocobo would have been nice.

Edit: Actually I'm extremely sure Dark Ifrit's around here somewhere. I guess I should be happy he's not walling part of the minigame off the way some of the other dark aeons can.

ViewtifulJoe posted...

This desert hide and seek game sure is energy consuming.
All this walking, so little action, it's like I'm really playing a PS4 game.

A chocobo would have been nice.

Edit: Actually I'm extremely sure Dark Ifrit's around here somewhere. I guess I should be happy he's not walling part of the minigame off the way some of the other dark aeons can.

You do have at least something with No Encounters for the cactuar hunt right? Even so it still takes like an hour and a half of walking back and forth across the desert.

bigtiggie23 posted...

You do have at least something with No Encounters for the cactuar hunt right? Even so it still takes like an hour and a half of walking back and forth across the desert.

I did, I ran down the list and found a shield for Lulu with that effect. Still pretty gruelling, maybe getting each orb could have given you the option to warp back to the stone that gives you clues.

Shotgunnova posted...

Tip: stay away from the summoner!

You're a bad man!

ViewtifulJoe posted...

Finally, a Behemoth cast meteor on me as he went down. I knew that wasn't something I made up. I've beaten a whole bunch of these things, guess the chance is pretty low.

Regular Behemoths don't do this in FFX. Behemoth Kings do, unless you kill them with a counterattack or capture them. Catoblepas has a similar rule but uses Ultima rather than Meteor.

Trumble posted...

Regular Behemoths don't do this in FFX. Behemoth Kings do, unless you kill them with a counterattack or capture them. Catoblepas has a similar rule but uses Ultima rather than Meteor.

Oh yeah, this adds up.
First 10 get captured, now all bets are off and I'm getting meteors every time.

I just remembered that time this site had a tournament come down to this game and Majora's Mask. And then they picked Majora's Mask. Yeesh.

Don Tonberry trick is doing what it's meant to. This pleases TIDDUS.

This game is entrancing the same way MMOs are.
It's very difficult to look away from the extremely satisfying, incrementally rising numbers.

Status Reels as a league prize.
This sounds like a move I will never find a purpose for while Attack Reels is around.
Getting Wakka's celestial counts as a purpose for this move, right?

Tiddus firing Wakka from Wakka's own Blitzball team is pretty funny. Like he can't even let Wakka retire with dignity, he just has to leap at any and all opportunities to do the laugh.
"Yeah, you can join my team. When I score a goal, I'll do this! It means, haha remember when Wakka was on this team? What a noob!!"

I have sacrificed my near 50 Blitz wins to spawn the Jupiter Sigil and to not have to play the remaining 8 games of the current league..
Honestly this seems like a fair exchange.

Also excited to see what a team with Tidus, Ropp, Brother and Wedge against level 1s looks like.

Just finished it a few months back. Near flawless video game.

Iodine posted...

Just finished it a few months back. Near flawless video game.

I can definitely point out things and tell you I don't like them but there's a lot of stuff I'm enjoying in a just enough chaos and menace to keep you on your toes kind of way.
Ridiculously good game honestly, I never really followed Square Enix, so I keep stopping and wondering what the hell happened.

I finally have the maxed out World Champion. The FFX answer to the Metal Blade from MM2. I've wanted to try this thing out for ages.
(Dramatic turn)
I think I have one more monster to show the monster arena guy.
Edit: First hit was a crit, did 99999.

Let's see... Something to say about FFX Omega Weapon... Uh...
Maybe his health since he had a lot? Well actually that Catastrophe guy in the arena had way more and Omega went down pretty fast.
His attacks? Only got to see one. Some energy blast.
The name? Kind of weird how with this game's lore a corrupt summoner changed his name to Omega Weapon. Sounds like the final form of Heavy Weapons Guy.
Something about a long unskippable cutscene? No, it was pretty brief. If I somehow lost it would have been a considerable walk back I guess.
Ultima Weapon? I think there were monsters in the first half of that dungeon more intimidating than him. I'd rather fight him than be ambushed by a Giant Malboro or Demonoliths.
Hmm...
Edit: Oh! I could act disappointed that he wasn't stronger! Oh hold on, that's what Nemesis is for.

Just gave the 200 lightning bolts a go after reading about the crater trick.
Did it first try.
My trick was to do a bunch before I started counting so when I got into the high numbers I'd feel less pressure because I had a buffer.

Now to continue to not use Lulu.

Edit: And then the crest prerequisites are to walk to the Farplane and look in the only chest.