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Murphiroth 04/03/23 2:33:48 PM #52:	Makeveli_lives posted... Slaves that were treated well were. There weren't many but they existed. So are you planning on addressing anything that they actually said or are you just going to bat for slavery? <cite>Murphiroth posted [p:972611368] in Detransiti... [t:80400153]...</cite> <quote>Makeveli_lives posted... </cite><quote>Slaves that were treated well were. There weren't many but they existed.</quote>So are you planning on addressing anything that they actually said or are you just going to bat for slavery?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Makeveli_lives 04/03/23 2:34:51 PM #53:	IfGodCouldDie posted... So does their experience mean that slavery was ok in general? No. I'm just saying that slaves being treated well was a thing no matter how uncommon. The majority of my people benefited immediately from the abolition of slavery no doubt, but the ones that were treated well got screwed as they were no longer protected by the few decent owners. It's like a house slave vs field slave type of thing. House slave was still black but he was probably getting better treatment than poor white people at the time. And his title as a house slave granted him that. Also with regard to detransitioning stats being 1 percent, transitioning surgery and procedure only recently came into mainstream acceptance. Trans people have existed longer sure but the point remains, people aren't out here detransitioning at the drop of a hat after feeling confusion and frustration and whatever else it may be for years or decades. I imagine that number will be much higher in a decade or two after people start living with the decision to have those procedures after a few years. I don't think it'll hit 50/50 but I'll be shocked if it doesn't hit 10% by then. --- Switch FC: SW-3917-4425-6106 PSN: PiKappaPhi769 <cite>Makeveli_lives posted [p:972611393] in Detransiti... [t:80400153]...</cite> <quote>IfGodCouldDie posted... </cite><quote>So does their experience mean that slavery was ok in general?</quote>No. I'm just saying that slaves being treated well was a thing no matter how uncommon. The majority of my people benefited immediately from the abolition of slavery no doubt, but the ones that were treated well got screwed as they were no longer protected by the few decent owners. It's like a house slave vs field slave type of thing. House slave was still black but he was probably getting better treatment than poor white people at the time. And his title as a house slave granted him that. Also with regard to detransitioning stats being 1 percent, transitioning surgery and procedure only recently came into mainstream acceptance. Trans people have existed longer sure but the point remains, people aren't out here detransitioning at the drop of a hat after feeling confusion and frustration and whatever else it may be for years or decades. I imagine that number will be much higher in a decade or two after people start living with the decision to have those procedures after a few years. I don't think it'll hit 50/50 but I'll be shocked if it doesn't hit 10% by then. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masterpug53 04/03/23 2:35:09 PM #54:	TC jumps at the chance to use the phrase 'open-minded' with all the same energy and transparency as a cartoon villain. --- Simple questions deserve long-winded answers that no one will bother to read https://imgur.com/1WshTZu - by DB_Insider https://imgur.com/eW67nT8 - by Wii_Shaker <cite>masterpug53 posted [p:972611398] in Detransiti... [t:80400153]...</cite> <quote>TC jumps at the chance to use the phrase 'open-minded' with all the same energy and transparency as a cartoon villain.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gobstoppers12 04/03/23 2:37:11 PM #56:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] So what you're saying is that individuals and their feelings are utterly irrelevant and unworthy of consideration if they conflict with the majority? --- (He/Him) I write Naruto Fanfiction. But I am definitely not a furry. <cite>Gobstoppers12 posted [p:972611442] in Detransiti... [t:80400153]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> So what you're saying is that individuals and their feelings are utterly irrelevant and unworthy of consideration if they conflict with the majority? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Murphiroth 04/03/23 2:38:40 PM #59:	Just on time here's Gobby to do his best to be subtly anti-trans because he's too much of a coward to be outwardly anti-trans. <cite>Murphiroth posted [p:972611483] in Detransiti... [t:80400153]...</cite> <quote>Just on time here's Gobby to do his best to be subtly anti-trans because he's too much of a coward to be outwardly anti-trans. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 04/03/23 2:38:52 PM #61:	Gobstoppers12 posted... So what you're saying is that individuals and their feelings are utterly irrelevant and unworthy of consideration if they conflict with the majority? Only if they're wrong and harmful. If a fellow autistic person argued that we'd be neurotypical if we didn't get vaccines, I'd tell them to shut the fuck up and consider never speaking again --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png he/him/they/them <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:972611490] in Detransiti... [t:80400153]...</cite> <quote>Gobstoppers12 posted... </cite><quote>So what you're saying is that individuals and their feelings are utterly irrelevant and unworthy of consideration if they conflict with the majority?</quote>Only if they're wrong and harmful. If a fellow autistic person argued that we'd be neurotypical if we didn't get vaccines, I'd tell them to shut the fuck up and consider never speaking again </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cuttin_in_farm 04/03/23 2:39:38 PM #62:	hockeybub89 posted... There is no middle ground. Doctors should work with families and children to decide the best course of treatment for gender affirming care, and everyone else should shut the fuck up and deal with it. Maybe Im not following.. Middle ground is a series that Jubilee does that puts two groups who typically wouldnt agree in the same room and asks them questions about theoretical controversial topics. They had one with scientists vs flat earthers too. Obviously the flat earthers came out looking stupid, but it was interesting to see why they thought certain things. Im assuming the video in the op is similar. Its not advocating for either group, but getting their opinion on topics, like minors transitioning. I dunno TC, so maybe he has a history. But based on the presented prompts whats the issue? --- A show of kindness may not do much help, but a show of cruelty may do much harm. <cite>cuttin_in_farm posted [p:972611513] in Detransiti... [t:80400153]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite><quote>There is no middle ground. Doctors should work with families and children to decide the best course of treatment for gender affirming care, and everyone else should shut the fuck up and deal with it.</quote>Maybe Im not following..Middle ground is a series that Jubilee does that puts two groups who typically wouldnt agree in the same room and asks them questions about theoretical controversial topics. They had one with scientists vs flat earthers too. Obviously the flat earthers came out looking stupid, but it was interesting to see why they thought certain things. Im assuming the video in the op is similar. Its not advocating for either group, but getting their opinion on topics, like minors transitioning. I dunno TC, so maybe he has a history. But based on the presented prompts whats the issue?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 04/03/23 2:40:10 PM #63:	Makeveli_lives posted... Slaves that were treated well were Bro. While it's possible to treat some slaves better than others, it's literally impossible to treat a slave well. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:972611521] in Detransiti... [t:80400153]...</cite> <quote>Makeveli_lives posted... </cite><quote>Slaves that were treated well were</quote>Bro. While it's possible to treat some slaves better than others, it's literally impossible to treat a slave well. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 04/03/23 2:40:38 PM #64:	Beveren_Rabbit posted... Even if safe transitioning was available. I do not think it's right to have children go through transition. Are you against all physical and mental healthcare for children, or do you only throw your brain out when it comes to helping trans kids? --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png he/him/they/them <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:972611525] in Detransiti... [t:80400153]...</cite> <quote>Beveren_Rabbit posted... </cite><quote>Even if safe transitioning was available. I do not think it's right to have children go through transition.</quote>Are you against all physical and mental healthcare for children, or do you only throw your brain out when it comes to helping trans kids?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Delirious_Beard 04/03/23 2:42:35 PM #65:	cuttin_in_farm posted... Isnt middle ground Jubilee? The most progressive channel there can be? At least they try to be. Whats up with the hostility in this topic? it's a literal clickbait channel lol --- https://i.imgur.com/hLHUnOI.jpg You act like I don't know my own way home <cite>Delirious_Beard posted [p:972611576] in Detransiti... [t:80400153]...</cite> <quote>cuttin_in_farm posted... </cite><quote>Isnt middle ground Jubilee?The most progressive channel there can be? At least they try to be. Whats up with the hostility in this topic?</quote>it's a literal clickbait channel lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Makeveli_lives 04/03/23 2:44:07 PM #66:	cuttin_in_farm posted... Maybe Im not following.. Middle ground is a series that Jubilee does that puts two groups who typically wouldnt agree in the same room and asks them questions about theoretical controversial topics. They had one with scientists vs flat earthers too. Obviously the flat earthers came out looking stupid, but it was interesting to see why they thought certain things. Im assuming the video in the op is similar. Its not advocating for either group, but getting their opinion on topics, like minors transitioning. I dunno TC, so maybe he has a history. But based on the presented prompts whats the issue? Apparently I hate trans people. But yes you presumed correctly as to what middle ground is. Problem is on this board in particular, anything other than blind support of the trans community is presented as an assault. I've made it clear in the past that I have no issue with trans people, I very much have an issue with the mentality of requiring belief instead of acceptance however. --- Switch FC: SW-3917-4425-6106 PSN: PiKappaPhi769 <cite>Makeveli_lives posted [p:972611614] in Detransiti... [t:80400153]...</cite> <quote>cuttin_in_farm posted... </cite><quote>Maybe Im not following..Middle ground is a series that Jubilee does that puts two groups who typically wouldnt agree in the same room and asks them questions about theoretical controversial topics. They had one with scientists vs flat earthers too. Obviously the flat earthers came out looking stupid, but it was interesting to see why they thought certain things. Im assuming the video in the op is similar. Its not advocating for either group, but getting their opinion on topics, like minors transitioning. I dunno TC, so maybe he has a history. But based on the presented prompts whats the issue?</quote>Apparently I hate trans people. But yes you presumed correctly as to what middle ground is. Problem is on this board in particular, anything other than blind support of the trans community is presented as an assault. I've made it clear in the past that I have no issue with trans people, I very much have an issue with the mentality of requiring belief instead of acceptance however.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VampireCoyote 04/03/23 2:45:37 PM #67:	all trans citizens should be given a monthly stipend and a new car to drive --- She/her <cite>VampireCoyote posted [p:972611646] in Detransiti... [t:80400153]...</cite> <quote>all trans citizens should be given a monthly stipend and a new car to drive</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gobstoppers12 04/03/23 2:45:51 PM #68:	Murphiroth posted... Just on time here's Gobby to do his best to be subtly anti-trans because he's too much of a coward to be outwardly anti-trans. Not talking about this issue, specifically, but I do think it's an odd sentiment to ignore people with unpopular opinions just because those opinions go against the majority of 'their group' I'm in favor of providing medical care to kids and teens who are trans, up to and including HRT as decided by the individual and their doctor. I don't see any value in arguing with people about who they are. They are the only ones who can decide who they are, while doctors (of the individual's own choosing) can decide which avenue of treatment is most appropriate for them. I have absolutely nothing against gender affirming care. But that said, I think it's a tiny bit dismissive to write off all dissenting opinion, especially from within the community most involved in the issues, as being somehow objectively wrong. How can you tell somebody that their personal lived experiences are the wrong experiences to have? --- (He/Him) I write Naruto Fanfiction. But I am definitely not a furry. <cite>Gobstoppers12 posted [p:972611652] in Detransiti... [t:80400153]...</cite> <quote>Murphiroth posted... </cite><quote>Just on time here's Gobby to do his best to be subtly anti-trans because he's too much of a coward to be outwardly anti-trans.</quote>Not talking about this issue, specifically, but I do think it's an odd sentiment to ignore people with unpopular opinions just because those opinions go against the majority of 'their group'I'm in favor of providing medical care to kids and teens who are trans, up to and including HRT as decided by the individual and their doctor. I don't see any value in arguing with people about who they are. They are the only ones who can decide who they are, while doctors (of the individual's own choosing) can decide which avenue of treatment is most appropriate for them.I have absolutely nothing against gender affirming care. But that said, I think it's a tiny bit dismissive to write off all dissenting opinion, especially from within the community most involved in the issues, as being somehow objectively wrong. How can you tell somebody that their personal lived experiences are the wrong experiences to have? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Makeveli_lives 04/03/23 2:56:34 PM #71:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Pick the point in the video where the detransitioned claimed discrimination in any of the prompts. Because all they're doing is talking about whether or not they agree with the prompts given and why and that's all. Why are you bringing all this extra shit into it? --- Switch FC: SW-3917-4425-6106 PSN: PiKappaPhi769 <cite>Makeveli_lives posted [p:972611867] in Detransiti... [t:80400153]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Pick the point in the video where the detransitioned claimed discrimination in any of the prompts. Because all they're doing is talking about whether or not they agree with the prompts given and why and that's all. Why are you bringing all this extra shit into it?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gobstoppers12 04/03/23 3:00:07 PM #74:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] I think our issue here is that you're treating this discussion as if it's going to be part of a policy-making decision, whereas I'm approaching it from a position of curiosity and philosophy. Obviously I don't think laws or social norms should bend to the will of the dissenters. However, if their dissent contains insights and some salient points, I think it is worth hearing what they have to say. More information and better understanding of a situation doesn't seem to me like it's a bad thing. I don't think it's valuable to try to silence or discredit people who are talking about their own lives and feelings. I think it's valuable to listen to them, understand them, and come away from the discussion with a more complete picture of humanity. That's my point. Forget politics, laws, etc. and think about the humanity of it. --- (He/Him) I write Naruto Fanfiction. But I am definitely not a furry. <cite>Gobstoppers12 posted [p:972611948] in Detransiti... [t:80400153]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> I think our issue here is that you're treating this discussion as if it's going to be part of a policy-making decision, whereas I'm approaching it from a position of curiosity and philosophy. Obviously I don't think laws or social norms should bend to the will of the dissenters. However, if their dissent contains insights and some salient points, I think it is worth hearing what they have to say. More information and better understanding of a situation doesn't seem to me like it's a bad thing. I don't think it's valuable to try to silence or discredit people who are talking about their own lives and feelings. I think it's valuable to listen to them, understand them, and come away from the discussion with a more complete picture of humanity. That's my point. Forget politics, laws, etc. and think about the humanity of it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Accolon 04/03/23 3:00:17 PM #75:	I seem to remember some data about how gender affirming surgery tends to have a lower rate of regret, compared to other types of surgery. --- http://i.imgur.com/XAMp8.jpg <cite>Accolon posted [p:972611953] in Detransiti... [t:80400153]...</cite> <quote>I seem to remember some data about how gender affirming surgery tends to have a lower rate of regret, compared to other types of surgery.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Makeveli_lives 04/03/23 3:02:59 PM #76:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] There were also some current transitioned people that agreed with some of the prompts. There were also detransitioned that didn't agree with the prompts. There were also some current transitioned people that didn't agree with the prompts. That's the whole thing about open discourse, some people agree and some don't then they talk about it. Instead of shutting everything down for even bringing up the question or prompt at all. Good thing children's bodies aren't being altered except for beta blockers. Surgery is denied to minors. Also medical professionals agree early access to beta blockers in trans children is a potentially life saving treatment that helps far more people than it harms. That's the facts. And that was brought up in the video not even 5 minutes in I think. --- Switch FC: SW-3917-4425-6106 PSN: PiKappaPhi769 <cite>Makeveli_lives posted [p:972612009] in Detransiti... [t:80400153]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> There were also some current transitioned people that agreed with some of the prompts. There were also detransitioned that didn't agree with the prompts. There were also some current transitioned people that didn't agree with the prompts. That's the whole thing about open discourse, some people agree and some don't then they talk about it. Instead of shutting everything down for even bringing up the question or prompt at all. <quote>Good thing children's bodies aren't being altered except for beta blockers. Surgery is denied to minors. Also medical professionals agree early access to beta blockers in trans children is a potentially life saving treatment that helps far more people than it harms. That's the facts.</quote>And that was brought up in the video not even 5 minutes in I think. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cuttin_in_farm 04/03/23 3:05:05 PM #77:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Theres a 42 minute video lmao. Tc gave a synopsis because no one wanted to watch the actual video. What is happening in this topic lol. --- A show of kindness may not do much help, but a show of cruelty may do much harm. <cite>cuttin_in_farm posted [p:972612052] in Detransiti... [t:80400153]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Theres a 42 minute video lmao. Tc gave a synopsis because no one wanted to watch the actual video. What is happening in this topic lol.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gobstoppers12 04/03/23 3:05:36 PM #78:	Accolon posted... I seem to remember some data about how gender affirming surgery tends to have a lower rate of regret, compared to other types of surgery. It is very rare for people to regret transitioning, but those people who do change their mind resultingly have a very rare perspective. There aren't many people like them who can be asked about the subject, so I think it's worthwhile to listen to them when they speak about it, even if it's only for the sake of understanding their personal reasons. --- (He/Him) I write Naruto Fanfiction. But I am definitely not a furry. <cite>Gobstoppers12 posted [p:972612071] in Detransiti... [t:80400153]...</cite> <quote>Accolon posted... </cite><quote>I seem to remember some data about how gender affirming surgery tends to have a lower rate of regret, compared to other types of surgery.</quote>It is very rare for people to regret transitioning, but those people who do change their mind resultingly have a very rare perspective. There aren't many people like them who can be asked about the subject, so I think it's worthwhile to listen to them when they speak about it, even if it's only for the sake of understanding their personal reasons.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masterpug53 04/03/23 3:07:08 PM #79:	cuttin_in_farm posted... Theres a 42 minute video lmao. Tc gave a synopsis because no one wanted to watch the actual video. What is happening in this topic lol. What happened is that you - the ever-predictable donny, wandering into the middle of the topic just to say 'gee whiz, I sure don't know exactly what this topic's about, but everyone sure is being mean to TC for no reason' - came in and gave TC someone to fawn over in agreement right at the point this weak-ass bait topic should've fizzled and died. --- Simple questions deserve long-winded answers that no one will bother to read https://imgur.com/1WshTZu - by DB_Insider https://imgur.com/eW67nT8 - by Wii_Shaker <cite>masterpug53 posted [p:972612105] in Detransiti... [t:80400153]...</cite> <quote>cuttin_in_farm posted... </cite><quote>Theres a 42 minute video lmao. Tc gave a synopsis because no one wanted to watch the actual video. What is happening in this topic lol.</quote>What happened is that you - the ever-predictable donny, wandering into the middle of the topic just to say 'gee whiz, I sure don't know exactly what this topic's about, but everyone sure is being mean to TC for no reason' - came in and gave TC someone to fawn over in agreement right at the point this weak-ass bait topic should've fizzled and died.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Murphiroth 04/03/23 3:08:50 PM #80:	Gobstoppers12 posted... I have absolutely nothing against gender affirming care. But Only thing you need to hear from Gobby's intellectually dishonest and worthless ass <cite>Murphiroth posted [p:972612147] in Detransiti... [t:80400153]...</cite> <quote>Gobstoppers12 posted... </cite><quote>I have absolutely nothing against gender affirming care. But</quote>Only thing you need to hear from Gobby's intellectually dishonest and worthless ass</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PlantBased 04/03/23 3:09:22 PM #82:	Slavery apologia was a turn I didn't expect this topic to take. <cite>PlantBased posted [p:972612157] in Detransiti... [t:80400153]...</cite> <quote>Slavery apologia was a turn I didn't expect this topic to take.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Murphiroth 04/03/23 3:12:56 PM #85:	I don't need to watch a 42 minute video to understand that TC's goal here is entirely to stir up shit. <cite>Murphiroth posted [p:972612230] in Detransiti... [t:80400153]...</cite> <quote>I don't need to watch a 42 minute video to understand that TC's goal here is entirely to stir up shit. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cuttin_in_farm 04/03/23 3:13:03 PM #86:	masterpug53 posted... What happened is that you - the ever-predictable donny, wandering into the middle of the topic just to say 'gee whiz, I sure don't know exactly what this topic's about, but everyone sure is being mean to TC for no reason' - came in and gave TC someone to fawn over in agreement right at the point this weak-ass bait topic should've fizzled and died. Its Jubilee lmao. The most left leaning wannabe heroes channel ever. CE claiming their video advocates for transphobic talking points WITHOUT WATCHING THE VIDEO is peak CE --- A show of kindness may not do much help, but a show of cruelty may do much harm. <cite>cuttin_in_farm posted [p:972612233] in Detransiti... [t:80400153]...</cite> <quote>masterpug53 posted... </cite><quote>What happened is that you - the ever-predictable donny, wandering into the middle of the topic just to say 'gee whiz, I sure don't know exactly what this topic's about, but everyone sure is being mean to TC for no reason' - came in and gave TC someone to fawn over in agreement right at the point this weak-ass bait topic should've fizzled and died.</quote>Its Jubilee lmao. The most left leaning wannabe heroes channel ever. CE claiming their video advocates for transphobic talking points WITHOUT WATCHING THE VIDEO is peak CE</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gobstoppers12 04/03/23 3:18:48 PM #88:	Murphiroth posted... Only thing you need to hear from Gobby's intellectually dishonest and worthless ass Did you read the actual post? Because all I'm saying is that it's valuable to listen to all available perspectives. I'm not saying anything beyond 'listen and attempt to understand.' I reiterate: I am firmly in favor of gender affirming care for trans kids, teens, and adults alike. I do not oppose transitioning on any level. I think teachers and school administrations should ask students for their pronouns proactively in order to normalize the practice of sharing them. I also reiterate: all human beings have a right to speak about their own experiences. Why is it that your reaction to dissenting opinions is to say "be quiet, you're wrong" instead of asking: "why is it that you feel that way?" Part of compassion is listening and attempting to understand people. A compassionate person does not dismiss and dehumanize people who disagree with them. I'm saying... listen. Just listen. You don't have to change your mind. I'm not even suggesting that you should change your mind. All I'm saying, literally the only point I'm trying to make, is that it's valuable to learn about an issue from all sides, not just the side that you view as correct. Even if it's only for the sake of preparing better arguments against their perspective, it's still worth knowing their perspective. --- (He/Him) I write Naruto Fanfiction. But I am definitely not a furry. <cite>Gobstoppers12 posted [p:972612357] in Detransiti... [t:80400153]...</cite> <quote>Murphiroth posted... </cite><quote>Only thing you need to hear from Gobby's intellectually dishonest and worthless ass</quote>Did you read the actual post? Because all I'm saying is that it's valuable to listen to all available perspectives. I'm not saying anything beyond 'listen and attempt to understand.'I reiterate: I am firmly in favor of gender affirming care for trans kids, teens, and adults alike. I do not oppose transitioning on any level. I think teachers and school administrations should ask students for their pronouns proactively in order to normalize the practice of sharing them. I also reiterate: all human beings have a right to speak about their own experiences. Why is it that your reaction to dissenting opinions is to say "be quiet, you're wrong" instead of asking: "why is it that you feel that way?"Part of compassion is listening and attempting to understand people. A compassionate person does not dismiss and dehumanize people who disagree with them.I'm saying... listen. Just listen. You don't have to change your mind. I'm not even suggesting that you should change your mind. All I'm saying, literally the only point I'm trying to make, is that it's valuable to learn about an issue from all sides, not just the side that you view as correct. Even if it's only for the sake of preparing better arguments against their perspective, it's still worth knowing their perspective. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 04/03/23 3:19:47 PM #89:	Beveren_Rabbit posted... altering someone's body isn't the proper way to deal with gender dysphoria in children. If someone wants to transition they should do so when they are a consenting adult. "altering someone's mind isn't the proper way to deal with depression in children. If someone want help, they should do so when they are a consenting adult" --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png he/him/they/them <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:972612376] in Detransiti... [t:80400153]...</cite> <quote>Beveren_Rabbit posted... </cite><quote>altering someone's body isn't the proper way to deal with gender dysphoria in children. If someone wants to transition they should do so when they are a consenting adult.</quote>"altering someone's mind isn't the proper way to deal with depression in children. If someone want help, they should do so when they are a consenting adult"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gwynevere 04/03/23 3:21:01 PM #90:	Well since TC is only interested in the opinions of trans people, here's one: I don't want a middle ground. I want to be left the fuck alone to live my life the way I see fit. --- A hunter is a hunter...even in a dream [She/they] <cite>Gwynevere posted [p:972612401] in Detransiti... [t:80400153]...</cite> <quote>Well since TC is only interested in the opinions of trans people, here's one: I don't want a middle ground. I want to be left the fuck alone to live my life the way I see fit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VampireCoyote 04/03/23 3:22:34 PM #91:	Beveren_Rabbit posted... altering someone's body isn't the proper way to deal with gender dysphoria in children. If someone wants to transition they should do so when they are a consenting adult. sometimes altering the body is exactly the proper way to deal with gender dysphoria, it isnt your decision to make for others --- She/her <cite>VampireCoyote posted [p:972612427] in Detransiti... [t:80400153]...</cite> <quote>Beveren_Rabbit posted... </cite><quote>altering someone's body isn't the proper way to deal with gender dysphoria in children. If someone wants to transition they should do so when they are a consenting adult.</quote>sometimes altering the body is exactly the proper way to deal with gender dysphoria, it isnt your decision to make for others</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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McMarbles 04/03/23 3:24:50 PM #94:	Makeveli_lives posted... You guys sure are content to ignore actual trans people when it comes to trans issues. This is like claiming that anyone who argues with Uncle Ruckus is a racist. --- Currently playing: Stardew Valley (Switch) Never befriend a man in sandals and always measure twice, cut once. <cite>McMarbles posted [p:972612465] in Detransiti... [t:80400153]...</cite> <quote>Makeveli_lives posted... </cite><quote>You guys sure are content to ignore actual trans people when it comes to trans issues.</quote>This is like claiming that anyone who argues with Uncle Ruckus is a racist.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Philip027 04/03/23 3:27:23 PM #95:	There isn't a "middle ground", as has been stated. You might as well be telling pro-choice and pro-birth people to set aside their differences and get along. <cite>Philip027 posted [p:972612508] in Detransiti... [t:80400153]...</cite> <quote>There isn't a "middle ground", as has been stated. You might as well be telling pro-choice and pro-birth people to set aside their differences and get along.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GrandConjuraton 04/03/23 3:27:50 PM #96:	Gwynevere posted... Well since TC is only interested in the opinions of trans people, here's one: I don't want a middle ground. I want to be left the fuck alone to live my life the way I see fit. He ignored my post, and I expect him to ignore yours, too. --- You shouldn't have taken the apple down from the tree. https://imgur.com/o21DN7r <cite>GrandConjuraton posted [p:972612515] in Detransiti... [t:80400153]...</cite> <quote>Gwynevere posted... </cite><quote>Well since TC is only interested in the opinions of trans people, here's one: I don't want a middle ground. I want to be left the fuck alone to live my life the way I see fit.</quote>He ignored my post, and I expect him to ignore yours, too.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Murphiroth 04/03/23 3:29:07 PM #97:	Gwynevere posted... Well since TC is only interested in the opinions of trans people, here's one: I don't want a middle ground. I want to be left the fuck alone to live my life the way I see fit. Hey TC care to address this or are you gonna go to bat for slavery again? <cite>Murphiroth posted [p:972612543] in Detransiti... [t:80400153]...</cite> <quote>Gwynevere posted... </cite><quote>Well since TC is only interested in the opinions of trans people, here's one: I don't want a middle ground. I want to be left the fuck alone to live my life the way I see fit.</quote>Hey TC care to address this or are you gonna go to bat for slavery again?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cuttin_in_farm 04/03/23 3:36:37 PM #98:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] I dont really care what you personally know of or not. Especially since youre the first person to disregard arguments from the redpill losers like Pearlythings just because of who they are. When someone who does know of the channel or individual tries to inform you that no, these guys typically fight for the right cause! you are unwilling to even try to give them a chance. So if you know of someones lack of credibility, trust you. Someone else advocates for someones credibility, you dont care. To me, its confusing. Youre too busy to post on CE but its apparently also TCs fault you are too busy to watch the source video? Like, yall are being ridiculous right now. Jubilee is obnoxiously progressive and has a very diverse cast working for their channel. If yall dont want to or cant watch the video, neat. But dont claim to know how terrible the video must be without watching. It makes yall look like echo chambers. Real talk. If yall dont care about that perception, neat. But thats my final thoughts. I also dont wanna watch the video. But only because I know its Jubilee. They are annoyingly surface level to me. --- A show of kindness may not do much help, but a show of cruelty may do much harm. <cite>cuttin_in_farm posted [p:972612706] in Detransiti... [t:80400153]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> I dont really care what you personally know of or not. Especially since youre the first person to disregard arguments from the redpill losers like Pearlythings just because of who they are. When someone who does know of the channel or individual tries to inform you that no, these guys typically fight for the right cause! you are unwilling to even try to give them a chance. So if you know of someones lack of credibility, trust you. Someone else advocates for someones credibility, you dont care. To me, its confusing. Youre too busy to post on CE but its apparently also TCs fault you are too busy to watch the source video?Like, yall are being ridiculous right now. Jubilee is obnoxiously progressive and has a very diverse cast working for their channel. If yall dont want to or cant watch the video, neat. But dont claim to know how terrible the video must be without watching. It makes yall look like echo chambers. Real talk. If yall dont care about that perception, neat. But thats my final thoughts. I also dont wanna watch the video. But only because I know its Jubilee. They are annoyingly surface level to me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BeantownHero 04/03/23 3:45:17 PM #100:	ThePrinceFish posted... Welcome to GameFAQs Current Events. They're plenty of right wing places that will facilitate the totally reasonable debate of "should we respect a minority group's right to exist and not be treated as second class citizens?" this place aint one of them. tough luck, champ --- Black In America https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1527-black-in-america <cite>BeantownHero posted [p:972612915] in Detransiti... [t:80400153]...</cite> <quote>ThePrinceFish posted... </cite><quote>Welcome to GameFAQs Current Events.</quote>They're plenty of right wing places that will facilitate the totally reasonable debate of "should we respect a minority group's right to exist and not be treated as second class citizens?"this place aint one of them. tough luck, champ</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Collat 04/03/23 3:46:53 PM #101:	McMarbles posted... This is like claiming that anyone who argues with Uncle Ruckus is a racist. TC would probably agree with that. Makeveli_lives posted... the ones that were treated well got screwed as they were no longer protected by the few decent owners. <cite>Collat posted [p:972612954] in Detransiti... [t:80400153]...</cite> <quote>McMarbles posted... </cite><quote>This is like claiming that anyone who argues with Uncle Ruckus is a racist.</quote>TC would probably agree with that.Makeveli_lives posted... </cite><quote>the ones that were treated well got screwed as they were no longer protected by the few decent owners.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WhisperWolf2005 04/03/23 3:47:18 PM #102:	Cheater87 posted... I will watch when I get home. <cite>WhisperWolf2005 posted [p:972612969] in Detransiti... [t:80400153]...</cite> <quote>Cheater87 posted... </cite><quote>I will watch when I get home.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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cuttin_in_farm 04/03/23 3:47:44 PM #104:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Specifically Gunpla and her cronies, actually. [LFAQs-redacted-quote] This bodes poorly for who I was trying to defend. I still stand by my opinion. --- A show of kindness may not do much help, but a show of cruelty may do much harm. <cite>cuttin_in_farm posted [p:972612982] in Detransiti... [t:80400153]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Specifically Gunpla and her cronies, actually.<cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> This bodes poorly for who I was trying to defend. I still stand by my opinion. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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