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BunkerBoy
03/15/23 8:00:51 AM
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DrewAllar claims to be a Christian, but I doubt Jesus would approve of his nonconsensual relations with his ex...

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Robot2600
03/15/23 8:10:56 AM
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MabusIncarnate
03/15/23 8:17:58 AM
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cuttin_in_farm posted...
Yea. Imagine if that were true!

You seem upset at someone. Dunno who, but I hope you find them.

However, please keep in mind that doing blanket generalizations never makes you logical nor on the moral high ground. Not all Christians are homophobic. And honestly, it always bugs me how much folks hate Christianity but will turn around and claim to support minorities, namely black people.

I wonder what religion a large portion of Americas black population follows

But continue being angry at Christians. I guess.
So "Some black people are Christian, so they should be exempt from criticism" is what you are going with, huh? Brilliant. You are a missing a "This is actually a really bad post" and your shitposting trifecta in this topic, like many others, is complete.

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Gritty
03/15/23 8:32:05 AM
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boxoto posted...
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Christians went from loving him to hitting them real quick there
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Gwynevere
03/15/23 8:40:53 AM
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cuttin_in_farm posted...
And honestly, it always bugs me how much folks hate Christianity but will turn around and claim to support minorities, namely black people.

I wonder what religion a large portion of Americas black population follows
Do you think it's impossible to be critical of Christianity while also recognizing that black people have and continue to face systemic oppression? You can absolutely have a disdain for someone's belief system, while still believing they should be afforded the same rights and opportunities as everyone else.

I think you tried really hard to make a connection here and it fell flat on its face

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RespectWomen
03/15/23 8:42:24 AM
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Well I guess its fuck Dwight in 2023

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ScazarMeltex
03/15/23 8:43:51 AM
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Punished_Blinx posted...
The preacher in The Walking Dead was a coward but not an outright villain IIRC. I think he even tries to redeem himself? I didn't watch all of the show though.

But yeah evangelist leaders are an easy source for villainy.
For a season and a half. Then he becomes a super badass shephard defensing his sheep kind of dude.

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lilORANG
03/15/23 8:48:29 AM
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Mindy dates a nice Christian in The Mindy Project.

There's also Shepard from Firefly

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thronedfire2
03/15/23 8:48:30 AM
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cuttin_in_farm posted...
Yea. Imagine if that were true!

You seem upset at someone. Dunno who, but I hope you find them.

However, please keep in mind that doing blanket generalizations never makes you logical nor on the moral high ground. Not all Christians are homophobic. And honestly, it always bugs me how much folks hate Christianity but will turn around and claim to support minorities, namely black people.

I wonder what religion a large portion of Americas black population follows

But continue being angry at Christians. I guess.


yeah they follow itafter being forced to for generations, like most Christians outside the US

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LightHawKnight
03/15/23 8:53:50 AM
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People keep saying not all Christians are bad and dont generalize, but damn is their leadership shit and very little seems to be done about it.

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Kim_Seong-a
03/15/23 8:55:11 AM
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On one hand, yeah, evil Christians is a bit trite at this point, and some genuinely good, open Christians would be nice if only for the sake of variety. >_>

On the other hand, having grown up in predominately Christian communities, the religion has pretty much earned all the ire it's gotten, so I can't say I particularly feel bad about it.

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Kim_Seong-a
03/15/23 9:11:17 AM
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LightHawKnight
03/15/23 9:11:23 AM
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Kim_Seong-a posted...
On one hand, yeah, evil Christians is a bit trite at this point, and some genuinely good, open Christians would be nice if only for the sake of variety. >_>

On the other hand, having grown up in predominately Christian communities, the religion has pretty much earned all the ire it's gotten, so I can't say I particularly feel bad about it.

I mean do people just ignore the good ones on media or do people just not watch those? I mean even Daredevil the Netflix series, Matt Murdock is very openly catholic and the priest in the show is a very good person.

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specialkid8
03/15/23 9:11:54 AM
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I don't think it's really a conscious bias. "Crazy cult preacher" is just a baked in character archetype for lazy writing.

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Gritty
03/15/23 9:14:38 AM
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Christians arent a race

snd the religion has done far more harm than good
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Garabandal
03/15/23 9:15:12 AM
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No one ever mentions Orel Puppington when talking about positive representation of Christians.

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Kim_Seong-a
03/15/23 9:15:18 AM
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Gritty
03/15/23 9:17:55 AM
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RespectWomen
03/15/23 9:20:06 AM
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Garabandal posted...
No one ever mentions Orel Puppington when talking about positive representation of Christians.

Oreo Pupper you mean?

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sparky2658
03/15/23 9:21:51 AM
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pegusus123456 posted...
He does have a point, but maybe the Christians should do something about their most vocal members being massive pieces of shit which is what inspires their media portrayals.
He really doesn't.

There are plenty of media that doesn't depict Christianity being bad. Showing this so called love and compassion.

But as usual, if that number is not 100%, the tears flow. The Christian victim complex is strong anytime they are "forced" to look at literally any percentile of media that's not preaching bullshit that Christianity is all sunshine, love, peace and rainbows.
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Kim_Seong-a
03/15/23 9:22:31 AM
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There's no point to meaningful discussion when your account is going to be banned in a week, 4 karma alt with 80 amp lmao


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Kim_Seong-a
03/15/23 9:25:50 AM
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oh no, the disingenuous alt tagged me

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WingsOfGood
03/15/23 9:27:15 AM
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in book of Eli Denzel is a Christian who is the main character and super cool but also very murderous but only for justice
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HBOSS
03/15/23 9:27:58 AM
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Nothing terrifying than a man or someone using religion for their own gains. Power corrupts and the temptation to use it for selfish reasons. The post apocalypse background, the scarcity of resources, and a man like david knowing how to use the words of the bible are a combination of scary things that we could imagine.

Davids representation was to show how desperate people were to listen to holy scripture. It gives meaning to daily struggles and the hope that one day salvation would be the result of that communitys sacrifices in trying to survive.

I get where rainwilson is saying but i feel there he is focused on the wrong thing. That davids actions are Not* very christian like and should serve as a warning to false prophets and how they exploit others for their own selfish reasons.it happend throughout our history, its represented in this post apocalptic fictional show, and it could be happening today. Remind christians or any religious followers of their faith and the strength it takes to live as one in todays world. I dunno... rain instead, called out the show without really detailing why its anti christian but the bible was referenced once then it was all david going downhill from there as the episode prgressed.

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WingsOfGood
03/15/23 9:34:12 AM
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HBOSS posted...
Nothing terrifying than a man or someone using religion for their own gains.

Nah. Guys not using religion who have the same result is even more terrifying. See North Korea with how you gotta put up a poster of the ugly leader in your house and make sure it is well cared for. It is almost religious but it is also not religious and that is terrifying.

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RchHomieQuanChi
03/15/23 9:36:02 AM
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It just so happens that the biggest villains in our real world today are either religious fanatics or people who use religion as a means to manipulate the masses.

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WingsOfGood
03/15/23 9:38:52 AM
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RchHomieQuanChi posted...
It just so happens that the biggest villains in our real world today are either religious fanatics or people who use religion as a means to manipulate the masses.

Putin? Check
Xi Jinping? not religious as far as I know. infact he is adamantly anti-christian
Kim Jung Un? Not religious
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HBOSS
03/15/23 9:47:48 AM
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WingsOfGood posted...
Putin? Check
Xi Jinping? not religious as far as I know. infact he is adamantly anti-christian
Kim Jung Un? Not religious
these folks got into power because their predecessors had some form of the divine rightousness to rule their countries and once kingdoms. Im just generalizing the last with their Tsars, the chinese dynasties, and the korean imperials.

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Orosuke
03/15/23 9:49:36 AM
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Oh no the group that goes on TV and pushes beliefs that others are going to burn in a sea of fire and molten hot magma for who they are are being portrayed as the bad guys!

Let me send thoughts and prayers their way and make it all better

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legendary_zell
03/15/23 10:04:56 AM
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I knew people were going to react this way and I'm still really disappointed.

David was pretty explicitly shown as a caricature of an atheist or non religious person. He stated outright that he didn't believe before the apocalypse and didn't really indicate that he believed afterwards either. Everything he said and did pointed to the idea that he was a manipulative sociopath that never believed in anything other than his right to dominate others by any means necessary. It was something out of a Chick Tract.

The whole point is that his innate villainy was warping any idea of legitimate belief or Christianity. He's not a Christian behaving badly, he's a non Christian hoarding power by taking advantage of the truly faithful.

There's no anti Christian agenda here, there's an anti sociopath agenda.

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Irony
03/15/23 10:06:11 AM
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David is basically Donald Trump

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Garabandal
03/15/23 10:16:45 AM
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RespectWomen posted...
Oreo Pupper you mean?
You're not funny

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LightHawKnight
03/15/23 10:34:03 AM
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legendary_zell posted...
I knew people were going to react this way and I'm still really disappointed.

David was pretty explicitly shown as a caricature of an atheist or non religious person. He stated outright that he didn't believe before the apocalypse and didn't really indicate that he believed afterwards either. Everything he said and did pointed to the idea that he was a manipulative sociopath that never believed in anything other than his right to dominate others by any means necessary. It was something out of a Chick Tract.

The whole point is that his innate villainy was warping any idea of legitimate belief or Christianity. He's not a Christian behaving badly, he's a non Christian hoarding power by taking advantage of the truly faithful.

There's no anti Christian agenda here, there's an anti sociopath agenda.

I mean isnt that a lot of real life Christians out there though? Most dont actually really believe, or they would actually be helping people instead of rushing for power and filling their pockets.

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ZevLoveDOOM
03/15/23 10:36:17 AM
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Irony posted...
David is basically Donald Trump

resorting to cannibalism to own the libs.
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cuttin_in_farm
03/15/23 10:37:54 AM
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MabusIncarnate posted...
So "Some black people are Christian, so they should be exempt from criticism" is what you are going with, huh?

You need to read. The fact you downplayed by saying some is evidence enough.

Id honestly wager most Christians are reasonable. Even ones who dont agree with homosexuality tend to just leave it alone.

But youre attacking the loud ones and claiming its the religion in its entirety. Christianity has done plenty bad. But it has done unbelievable good too.

Im not a Christian, but Ive seen the good it can do for communities and individuals.

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refmon
03/15/23 10:38:11 AM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
Wait until he hears about Catholic priests irl


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Compsognathus
03/15/23 10:47:43 AM
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cuttin_in_farm posted...
You need to read. The fact you downplayed by saying some is evidence enough.

Id honestly wager most Christians are reasonable. Even ones who dont agree with homosexuality tend to just leave it alone.

But youre attacking the loud ones and claiming its the religion in its entirety. Christianity has done plenty bad. But it has done unbelievable good too.

Im not a Christian, but Ive seen the good it can do for communities and individuals.
The issue here is that it isn't necessarily individual Christians, who can run the gambit of good people to shit bags just like any other people group, but the most vocal of their leadership.

Like Pope Francis' actions towards the LGBTQ+ community can most charitably be described as not-actively-homophobic. For this incredibly mild action, there are not insignificant pieces of Catholic leadership saying that he's a heretic.

Televangelist are by and large openly hateful and fundamentally greedy hypocrites.

Like these might not make up the majority of Christians, but they are certainly the loudest. Basically everyone is aware of them. It's a really easy narrative step to make them the bad guys because it's just inherently believable.

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10InchNails
03/15/23 11:04:31 AM
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Meh, fuck Christianity. Where were all those "good christians" when their dear pastoral leaders were in the back lubing up children's holes?
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FortuneCookie
03/15/23 11:25:47 AM
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Compsognathus posted...
Like these might not make up the majority of Christians, but they are certainly the loudest. Basically everyone is aware of them. It's a really easy narrative step to make them the bad guys because it's just inherently believable.

You say that as if it weren't true of every group. When are the loudest ones ever the nicest ones? Good people usually don't have to call attention to themselves.
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Gwynevere
03/15/23 11:30:46 AM
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Where are the good Christians when we have an opportunity to vote the bad Christians out of their positions of power?

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ApherosyLove
03/15/23 11:32:04 AM
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Zikten posted...
he is a member of a religion called Bahai. Its sort of a spinoff of Islam. I don't know why he's defending Christianity

Is this a real question?
The world will be a better place when people start a dialogue to defend their neighbours, even if they're not the same religion.

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Compsognathus
03/15/23 11:32:09 AM
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FortuneCookie posted...
You say that as if it weren't true of every group. When are the loudest ones ever the nicest ones? Good people usually don't have to call attention to themselves.
You aren't wrong, but outside of politicians, I don't think there is another group that combines authority and audience familiarity like religious leaders. And politicians are also basically auto-bad guys in most dystopias.

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RustyFerret
03/15/23 12:32:59 PM
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10InchNails posted...
Meh, f*** Christianity. Where were all those "good christians" when their dear pastoral leaders were in the back lubing up children's holes?
So if an institution covers up a crime and you're completely ignorant of it due to the coverup, that's your fault?

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andel
03/15/23 12:56:28 PM
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it's amazing to me that people could be offended at a christian (who really isn't even a christian) being portrayed negatively. like do you just expect to always have every member of your religion portrayed positively despite said religion being one of the major excuses for hate and oppression?

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BlueBoy675
03/15/23 12:57:08 PM
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Christianity is a choice and I have every right to criticize you for it. Race is not. They are not comparable.

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MuscleRobo
03/15/23 1:01:07 PM
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It's just that they're a safe and easy target for fanaticism. In Taoism they show connection as being inherently misleading so someone who is obsessed with anything is considered "lost." It's just a way to show obsession in a way that won't get you letters; even though orthodox Jews and Muslims are much more devout. Hell, teachers have a higher rate of sex offenders in the US but no one is willing to talk about it as openly as pastors because then you have the teachers union and other people complaining.
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masterpug53
03/15/23 1:11:19 PM
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Strange, I feel like I've heard the "why aren't the 'good' ones doing more to stop / condemn the bad ones" rhetoric before...for some reason I think it started popping up in late 2001 or so...

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