Current Events > UK Tory party votes to make seeking asylum illegal

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https://twitter.com/CarolineLucas/status/1635408640663494658?t=NJhOaeZELTtfCqTpcz5DhA&s=19

Fucking disgusting.

Not one single Tory MP voted against it, with 40ish 'abstaining' after calling it morally repugnant. Really shows how much they care ultimately.

And this is despite the Tory Government admitting they know it is illegal and unworkable.

This is despite them refusing to provide any safe means to cross to Britain.

This is despite them being years behind processing claims.

This is despite their attempts to ship them off to a country they have no connections to and dont speak the language still being challenged in court.

Bunch of fucking fascist wannabes is all this government is.

Gary Lineker was far too polite in his criticism.

Now we just have to hope the fucking unelected lords can save us from this, or the ECHR before the Tories take us out of it.

And if anyone wants to come and chime in with shitty nonsense like 'they arent Achtually stopping asylum seekers' shut the fuck up plz.

That country is done for

tremain07 posted...

That country is done for

Truly does seem we might be. We still have another year plus for them to push even more evil laws through.

Im becoming more and more glad to have left with each day that passes.

Fear and spite are very powerful tools for politics

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Tories have been in power since close to a decade before brexit.

K181 posted...

Tories have been in power since close to a decade before brexit.

Yup. Sadly true.

An evil evil evil party. This is not any different than the BNP or UKIP would do, that's who is in charge now.

Isn't this one of the reasons for brexit?

i'd love to leave this country, but the tories are doing everything they can to make sure i don't have enough money or the ability to leave, so i'm stuck here

St0rmFury posted...

Isn't this one of the reasons for brexit?

They claimed to want to stop the supposed immigration crisis.

And instead caused it.

TwoDoorPC posted...

i'd love to leave this country, but the tories are doing everything they can to make sure i don't have enough money or the ability to leave, so i'm stuck here

Dont let them convince you of that. You dont need a whole lot of money with the right job offer.

Glob posted...

Dont let them convince you of that. You dont need a whole lot of money with the right job offer.

Sadly, many dont have such an opportunity. Nor are some other English speaking countries exactly doing great themselves.

Well its not really illegal once its a law voted by Parliament innit.

Illegal in how its used in that tweet, that is.

DarthWendy posted...

Well its not really illegal once its a law voted by Parliament innit.

Illegal in how its used in that tweet, that is.

Read the last bit of my first post plz.

Funkydog posted...

Read the last bit of my first post plz.

Tbh your post stopped being read-worthy right about when you cracked out the fascizum .

Are people still trying to immigrate to the UK though? Why not stay in Germany, Switzerland, or even Italy, Portugal or Spain?

edit - not because of their policies, but because they dont seem especially prosperous right now

the_pika posted...

Are people still trying to immigrate to the UK though? Why not stay in Germany, Switzerland, or even Italy, Portugal or Spain?

Mostly because of the state healthcare system, none of the countries you named hands it off as easily.

Gonna be hilarious when Scottish vote to leave them and their system collapses.

#BravermanForPM

DarthWendy posted...

Mostly because of the state healthcare system, none of the countries you named hands it off as easily.

ooohhhh. That makes sense

ScazarMeltex posted...

Gonna be hilarious when Scottish vote to leave them and their system collapses.

Right, because scotland doesn't get wayyy more out of it than england does, and won't just be brexit 2.0 for them.

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Maybe stop trying to send mercenaries after drag queens before you try to judge other countries.

ScazarMeltex posted...

Gonna be hilarious when Scottish vote to leave them and their system collapses.

The Scottish system? It'll be worse than the current state with Northern Ireland for them. Hard border with England, wouldn't be able to use the pound, would have to apply to join the EU which would take years. Brexit was a bad idea, Scottish independence is even worse.

the_pika posted...

Are people still trying to immigrate to the UK though? Why not stay in Germany, Switzerland, or even Italy, Portugal or Spain?

edit - not because of their policies, but because they dont seem especially prosperous right now

Apparently the amount of people going to the UK is far less than what's going to the other countries. The UK government is blaming all their Brexit problems on immigrants though.

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https://www.advocate.com/politics/texas-drag-bounty-bill

If you can pay several thousand quid to get on a rickety boat with 150 other people, you can go to the consulate.

Holy_Cloud105 posted...

Apparently the amount of people going to the UK is far less than what's going to the other countries. The UK government is blaming all their Brexit problems on immigrants though.

that is such a Tory/GOP thing to do

Trelve posted...

The Scottish system? It'll be worse than the current state with Northern Ireland for them. Hard border with England, wouldn't be able to use the pound, would have to apply to join the EU which would take years. Brexit was a bad idea, Scottish independence is even worse.

Lol no. The Scottish want to be part of the EU sure, which is why they voted against brexit. Overwhelmingly so. They are also propping up the UK with their renewable energy resources and being charged out the ass for it. They don't need England, England needs them.

ScazarMeltex posted...

Lol no. The Scottish want to be part of the EU sure, which is why they voted against brexit. Overwhelmingly so. They are also propping up the UK with their renewable energy resources and being charged out the ass for it. They don't need England, England needs them.

Let's say they declare independence from rUK, then they have to apply to join the EU. That will take years. They can't put in an application while they're still a member of the UK as they're not a sovereign state. So in that period, they're stuck in limbo being part of neither union. The amount of laws that would have to be rewritten and changed, you think Brexit was tricky for the UK having to untangle 40 years of laws? Try 300. The SNP refuse to elaborate on how exactly they would handle the problem of a hard border between Scotland and England.

ScazarMeltex posted...

They are also propping up the UK with their renewable energy resources and being charged out the ass for it. They don't need England, England needs them.

Hahaha oh god you are so out of touch, but sure. Believe whatever fables you want to believe in.

Holy_Cloud105 posted...

Apparently the amount of people going to the UK is far less than what's going to the other countries. The UK government is blaming all their Brexit problems on immigrants though.

Maybe EU needs to send back UK refugees?

Reminds me of the conservatives who are like "Why should we let the Mexicans run to us when Mexico is killing our people?"

Hmm I wonder fucking why people are escaping these countries at any cost? Maybe because they are trying to survive!

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Okay, I got out and came here. Give me free stuff please.

Questionmarktarius posted...

Okay, I got out and came here. Give me free stuff please.

Libertarians don't get free stuff. Especially not Randians. Ya'll get to starve ;p

Questionmarktarius posted...

Okay, I got out and came here. Give me free stuff please.

Ah yes the glamorous lives of *checks notes* refugees and illegal immigrants

hockeybub89 posted...

Ah yes the glamorous lives of *checks notes* refugees and illegal immigrants

You can't really claim "asylum!" after you've been busted working at the chicken factory for six months while getting paid under the table.
Or, I guess you can, and UK wants to change that.

The bigger issue here, is that the proposal is half-assed and full of "we'll figure that out later" ambiguity: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/mar/07/what-does-the-uk-governments-migration-bill-propose

Questionmarktarius posted...

If you can pay several thousand quid to get on a rickety boat with 150 other people, you can go to the consulate.

What exactly would be the point of going to the consulate?

What makes UK so fucking special over Ireland or France, anyway?

JE19426 posted...

What exactly would be the point of going to the consulate?

"I'd like to live in jolly old England, please"

Have they exceeded capacity for what reasonable amounts of refugees they can already take in?

Questionmarktarius posted...

"I'd like to live in jolly old England, please"

Cool, and then they say, "sorry you can't claim asylum at the consulate, so we can't help you". So now what?