Current Events > Asking as a Brit - How hard was Gore screwed over in the 2000 election?

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I remember at the time there was a lot of drama over Florida but I was relatively young at the time and with 9/11 not long after it fell off the radar.

Not allowed to post gore here

Florida was called for Al Gore, until Bush found out and called his people in Florida and began, what was actually 'The steal'

A lot of it was based on 'hanging chads' which was a complete line of bullshit.
I watched/listened to that shit happen in real-time.
~We are still paying for that whole thing, to this day.

I will say though, Gore refused to ride on Clinton's coattails, which was a real fuck up on his part.

I'd say pretty fucking hard considering that election was quite literally the fork in the road for the country.

Gore screwed himself. Not only did he not win his own home state (Tennessee), but he also failed to win his predecessor's (Clinton) state (Arkansas). Had he won either of them, he would have gotten the required 270 electoral votes, and Florida wouldn't have been such a big deal.

R1masher posted...

Not allowed to post gore here

Most people are busy skiing it now anyway. ;-)

There were screwy votes going on in Florida, so there was a recount underway. The recount was taking too long and the SCOTUS got involved, halted the count, and with the EC vote tallies at that time Bush became the winner.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_United_States_presidential_election

"At the time Bush's popular vote total was the most votes ever received by a presidential candidate ..."

MuscleRobo posted...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_United_States_presidential_election

"At the time Bush's popular vote total was the most votes ever received by a presidential candidate ..."

Yeah because he started a bullshit war and then hopped full on Murca train to get reelected.

Letron_James posted...

Yeah because he started a bullshit war and then hopped full on Murca train to get reelected.

Ok, still got the popular vote unlike that post was claiming. That doesn't invalidate that, lol.

Letron_James posted...

Yeah because he started a bullshit war and then hopped full on Murca train to get reelected.

So it doesn't count if they use unethical methods or ones you disagree with. Got it.

I remember Gore wanted like 3 fucking recounts in a row and eventually everyone was like "lolno, you lost bro" I was like 10 tho >_> So maybe I'm misremembering

Letron_James posted...

Yeah because he started a bullshit war and then hopped full on Murca train to get reelected.

Literally raised 'The Threat Level' right during elections.
"Can't change horses in midstream" was repeated often.

Republicans knew he was a fuck up, but didn't care and used the other term "We have to respect the office of the presidency" as a dodge. Funny how that line of thought did not care over in the Obama administration.

DKBananaSlamma posted...

I remember Gore wanted like 3 fucking recounts in a row and eventually everyone was like "lolno, you lost bro" I was like 10 tho >_> So maybe I'm misremembering

If they had recounted the entire state of Florida, Gore would have most likely won. The fact that they kept recounting Miami-Dade County was what caused SCOTUS to finally step in and say "Enough!" and gave the win to Bush.

DKBananaSlamma posted...

I remember Gore wanted like 3 fucking recounts in a row and eventually everyone was like "lolno, you lost bro" I was like 10 tho >_> So maybe I'm misremembering

The Florida election was called for Gore that night.
Bush was the whole put his people in action to start the recount shit.

I remember that night vividly.

"I demand a recount," is one of the first memes I recall.

FortuneCookie posted...

"I demand a recount," is one of the first memes I recall.

The meme was actually the fat guy with his glasses on his forehead, squinting trying to determine whether it was a dimpled Chad

FortuneCookie posted...

"I demand a recount," is one of the first memes I recall.

I do remember that being a meme in my school for a while

A_Good_Boy posted...

The recount was taking too long and the SCOTUS got involved, halted the count, and with the EC vote tallies at that time Bush became the winner.

Was the SCOTUS weighted towards either DEM or GOP at the time? I didn't realise the Supreme Court got involved.

DKBananaSlamma posted...

I do remember that being a meme in my school for a while

"Hanging Chads" was the meme.

SiO4 posted...

"Hanging Chads" was the meme.

Yeah? Well, I demand a recount!

I remember having no idea where these came from as a kid. I thought the recount referred to money for some reason. It was up there with Luke, I am your father and such.

The people don't elect the president; the states do. We've just been pretending the former for awhile.

itachi15243 posted...

Yeah? Well, I demand a recount!

I remember having no idea where these came from as a kid. I thought the recount referred to money for some reason. It was up there with Luke, I am your father and such.

I have to get to work. So I can't really pull up the names.
But I am pretty sure one of his campaign managers was put in place as part of the recount.

Short answer: Yes

Long answer: Yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

MuscleRobo posted...

"At the time Bush's popular vote total was the most votes ever received by a presidential candidate ..."

That's a reflection of population

Three of the lawyers arguing the Republican case in Bush V. Gore are now on the Supreme Court
https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/17/politics/bush-v-gore-barrett-kavanaugh-roberts-supreme-court/index.html

SHRlKE posted...

Was the SCOTUS weighted towards either DEM or GOP at the time? I didn't realise the Supreme Court got involved.

Some could correct me if I'm wrong, but at the time the perception was that the SC (with some members filled by Bush's father, Herbert Bush) was being biased towards the Republicans and there was generally a huge outrage over that. At the time DC wasn't as entrenched by Democrats as it is now so people thought it was more right that a Republican win, the literal son of a reputable president (foreign policywise).

The race came down to Florida. Whoever wins Florida wins the election. Originally the election was called for Gore based on him winning Florida. But he after a recount it was called for Bush after allegedly he actually had more votes in Florida.

To this day there is still debate on who actually truly won

Its like I always say. Imagine the utopia wed be living in right now if that idiot Dubya was never elected.

MuscleRobo posted...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_United_States_presidential_election

"At the time Bush's popular vote total was the most votes ever received by a presidential candidate ..."

Unsurprisingly, you leapt at the chance to zero in on the single presidential election since the 1980's in which a Republican candidate won the popular vote...while being irrelevant to the post you quoted, since that outcome would more than likely not have existed in the hypothetical scenario in which Gore won the presidency.

rexcrk posted...

Its like I always say. Imagine the utopia wed be living in right now if that idiot Dubya was never elected.

Nah the neocons would have eventually gotten into the white house. Al Gore after two terms would've been the starting point of the cracks in globalism. Oh and the 08 crisis, don't forget that.

He wasn't.

SHRlKE posted...

Was the SCOTUS weighted towards either DEM or GOP at the time? I didn't realise the Supreme Court got involved.

Look up Bush Vs Gore.

TyVulpine posted...

Look up Bush Vs Gore.

I did but it was like a million pages long and I couldnt easily find the make up of the SC. I was hoping someone on here would do me a solid if they knew off the top of their head.

SHRlKE posted...

I did but it was like a million pages long and I couldnt easily find the make up of the SC. I was hoping someone on here would do me a solid if they knew off the top of their head.

SCOTUS basically ruled since the various counties of Florida used different forms of ballots, that it was causing a risk of inequality in both candidates chances, so SCOTUS ruled recounted must end immediately. That handed Florida to Bush and the presidency as well.

I was asking specifically was it seen as a fair decision as there is talk these days of the SC bring heavily weights towards the republicans. Was that also true on 2000?

It was shady because of his brother

MuscleRobo posted...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_United_States_presidential_election

"At the time Bush's popular vote total was the most votes ever received by a presidential candidate ..."

???

that's for 2004

He wasn't screwed. The supreme court made a decision and it was the right one.

tremain07 posted...

It was shady because of his brother

Jeb caused Gore to lose both Tennessee and Arkansas?

TyVulpine posted...

Jeb caused Gore to lose both Tennessee and Arkansas?

We don't discuss facts here.

TurtleInFreedom posted...

Nah the neocons would have eventually gotten into the white house. Al Gore after two terms would've been the starting point of the cracks in globalism. Oh and the 08 crisis, don't forget that.

Whos to say that the 08 crisis wouldve even happened if Gore had been elected instead of Dubya