Board 8 > Star Trek Mafia - Topic 4: There Be Whales Here!

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htaeD posted...

You want to hear something else Han?
I hope you are scum, Han.
Because if you're not you're gonna get a big blow to your cred if I get lynched.

So once again
Humor
Me

What will you do were I to get lynched (and thus flip town?)

Okay, still catching up (almost done but my god was there a lot of stuff I did not find particularly enticing to trawl through) but the start of this post does not feel particularly genuine? Bleh. Not too sure about relooking at Death but I think I am a little shook by Chris going between Han and Sultan right now. Going to sit down now to be fully present for the final hour.

BCT, catch up as quick as you can. Skim if you gotta. This is looking a pretty important EoD imo.

I think ulti is probably our best lynch atm

Fuck it, soul read is that Ulti is scum, and not just because he's voting me, but because he was waffling trying to see what would stick in ways that I don't think come from a town Ulti.

##unvote (if applicable)
##vote: Ulti

HanOfTheNekos posted...

It's not a weird attack, though. It's a very normal attack.

It definitely was weird to attack me just because you felt Chris was scum protecting me.
I dont care how you reason it afterwards.

I am already not proud of saying it, Sheep.
But I'd rather say it now than wait for postgame, if that happens.

Then again this also opens the way for me to more petty in future games, and that feels good.

But yeah whatevs, you want that claim then? I know I cant pull myself away to do something constructive while all this yelling is going on.

htaeD posted...

Its not a defense I know. Its just how I feel right now: petty.

But you at least bring up a good point for me to tackle
Because I feel if anyone is being underhanded here about pushing me over the edge its Lea.
JC maybe too, but he couldnt have known it would go this far when he started the vote.
Lea was the one who made it seem attractive to vote me IMO.

She also unvoted you the moment I voted you.

BlueCrystalTear posted...

Fuck it, soul read is that Ulti is scum, and not just because he's voting me, but because he was waffling trying to see what would stick in ways that I don't think come from a town Ulti.

##unvote (if applicable)
##vote: Ulti

Why do you think he would do this and not put a vote down on Death, who has votes?

htaeD posted...

It definitely was weird to attack me just because you felt Chris was scum protecting me.

This is completely incorrect, though.

She also unvoted you the moment I voted you.

Did she? I thought it happened a bit after that?

This is completely incorrect, though.

In what way?

Also actally
cite yourself Han
When have you made attacks like this before?
It may not be timely to check this now, but its something that should be looked at eventually

Unofficial votals
[4] death - JC, (Lea), (Chris), Han, Dumey, Lea
[2] Ulti - (Chris), (BCT), Sultan, BCT
[2] Han - (BCT), (Chris), death, Chris
[1] Sultan - ctes, (Chris), (Ulti)
[1] Lea - Sheep
[0] Chris - (Ulti), (Lea), (Sultan)
[0] Sheep - (Chris), (Han), (Lea), (Dumey), (Wallz)
[0] JC - (Han), (Ulti), (Sultan)
[0] Dumey - (Ulti), (Ulti)
[0] Wallz - (BCT), (BCT)
[0] ctes - (Sultan)

Also geez I offer to claim and suddenly it gets all quiet

Before leaving for... too long, my thoughts were Ulti, Death, and Wallz as scum. This was through page 3 of topic 3. Ulti saying the cop should scan me is also suspect when we have people behaving in more questionable ways; by saying "Wallz is obvtown" and not to scan him (3.169), it sounds like he's trying to cover for a scumbuddy who he had previously said should be scanned. All this waffling feels like a smokescreen, for Ulti to try to make Wallz look town when he certainly doesn't. As per community rule, Wallz has to live to see D2.

Only scum goes after a townie who's been too busy to actually contribute much in hopes for an easy mislynch. While I'd appreciate a townclear, I think the cop needs to scan whoever they feel is the most suspicious person, the one who'd tell us the most. In what world is that me?

Also, Dumey, for my lack of a Chris read, I can address that now. Chris is definitely trying to scum hunt. He's not as aggressive as he was in Poke Wars, where he painted his masterpiece, because he wanted to appear town there and succeeded. Hugely. He doesn't have a third-party role this time and if he does, he's fine-tuned his game a good deal. But it's Chris. I see no reason to lynch him D1 or even D2. D3, however... we'll see.

Speaking of...
SirChris posted... (3.187)

Murder: han, ulti, Sultan
Veto: jc, wall, Crescent

Murder: Ulti
Veto: Crescent (Wallz having the newbie exemption notwithstanding)

UltimaterializerX posted...

Andy your time stamp has been updating all day and you only now bothered showing up because someone voted for you. I know scummoned is overused but come on man.

You're scum and I'm town. The fact that you've been watching my timestamp, which actually hadn't updated for like 3 hours, is CRINGE. I think I've seen enough.

Ulti, claim or die.

Oh and as for my timestamp "updating" earlier, it was because I was reading topic 3. Excuse me for trying to be caught up and then getting distracted.

Ulti is scum.

htaeD posted...

Also geez I offer to claim and suddenly it gets all quiet

Thoughts on ulti?

BlueCrystalTear posted...

Before leaving for... too long, my thoughts were Ulti, Death, and Wallz as scum. This was through page 3 of topic 3. Ulti saying the cop should scan me is also suspect when we have people behaving in more questionable ways; by saying "Wallz is obvtown" and not to scan him (3.169), it sounds like he's trying to cover for a scumbuddy who he had previously said should be scanned. All this waffling feels like a smokescreen, for Ulti to try to make Wallz look town when he certainly doesn't. As per community rule, Wallz has to live to see D2.

Only scum goes after a townie who's been too busy to actually contribute much in hopes for an easy mislynch. While I'd appreciate a townclear, I think the cop needs to scan whoever they feel is the most suspicious person, the one who'd tell us the most. In what world is that me?

Also, Dumey, for my lack of a Chris read, I can address that now. Chris is definitely trying to scum hunt. He's not as aggressive as he was in Poke Wars, where he painted his masterpiece, because he wanted to appear town there and succeeded. Hugely. He doesn't have a third-party role this time and if he does, he's fine-tuned his game a good deal. But it's Chris. I see no reason to lynch him D1 or even D2. D3, however... we'll see.

Speaking of...
(3.187)
Murder: Ulti
Veto: Crescent (Wallz having the newbie exemption notwithstanding)

You're scum and I'm town. The fact that you've been watching my timestamp, which actually hadn't updated for like 3 hours, is CRINGE. I think I've seen enough.

Ulti, claim or die.

Why would you veto me, haven't you voiced mild suspicion on me most of the day?

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Thoughts on ulti?

I lean on the theory that scumUlti wouldnt have come back to vote two different people in a row.
Though I do think his vote on you was bad. Butthat doesnt make him scum, just Ulti.

I still don't get why Ulti thinks people can't have lives. The timing was coincidental and the fact that he's looking at my last login timestamp as an excuse to lynch me makes him seem like desperate, bad scum.

Crescent-Moon posted...

Why would you veto me, haven't you voiced mild suspicion on me most of the day?

I misread the question actually; reading the next few posts proved that. I thought Chris was asking of the three I quoted him saying; in which case I'm very certain Wallz is scum. My suspicion on you and JC is roughly equal.

My error.

If Crescent or Wall are around, I'd kinda like to discuss this a little with them (mostly because they're the only people I fully trust rn). This is mostly a thought process thing with a lot of instinct involved here, so bear with me if it's a bit muddled.

So where I stand with ~1 hour to go is that

I don't feel good about Han or Lea. I feel good about Death, who they are both voting and suspect.

Death's responses slowly get worse, to the point I am almost comfortable going for him. I still don't actually feel any better about either Han or Lea as a result.
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Meanwhile, I feel good about Chris. I don't feel good about Sultan.

Chris votes Sultan and continues to pressure him over something that I honestly don't see as scummy coming from Sultan, and Sultan responds... fine? And honestly, the gutless weasel thing seems too much from someone I feel was a little meeker as Scum.

Chris votes Han, for reasons that I frankly think are bad (I do not understand nor agree on the argument on tmi for Sultan in the slightest).

Frankly, I do not know where in the fucketh I stand right now. The only one of these five players I have zero interest in ever lynching today is Chris. But honestly, I think his argument on Han is weak, I think Death's argument on Han is weak, and I'm not sure I want to go down that angle.

Also, Ulti not reading to the extent he thinks I'm obvious scum and everyone got bored of the pressure makes me think even more it's Town Ulti (I don't really give a shit about the claim, I'll consider it further if I think Ulti is ever in the PoE). I feel like Scum may have at least mentioned that I did a fair bit of work today in passing on their board and made him not make that comment.

Was hoping to find the appropriate SFdebris clip to go with it, but I cant find it
Ah well

Harry Kim, Vanilla

Guess I really am a Poor dumb Harry

UltimaterializerX posted...

I am the last person who would ever suspect someone of scum for having a life. I dealt with that junk for 30 games and would never treat anyone the same way.

Says the guy who told Plum "Come back here!" last game when Plum had to lie down with a migraine.

BCT, are you aware almost everyone alive aside from you thinks that Wall is Town? How do you feel about that?

Man, I don't know about this time stamp business, but BCT responding to my old comment about their Chris-fear looking cringe when I was talking to Lea earlier today in the middle of that post definitely makes it seem like BCT is keeping tabs of their mentions but not actively posting. I can't prove that BCT isn't just trying to catch up, but I don't entirely disagree with Ulti claiming BCT was scummoned.

Sheep007 posted...

BCT, are you aware almost everyone alive aside from you thinks that Wall is Town? How do you feel about that?

I feel like nobody remembers how I was in Nickelodeon Mafia.

htaeD posted...

Unofficial votals
[4] death - JC, (Lea), (Chris), Han, Dumey, Lea
[2] Ulti - (Chris), (BCT), Sultan, BCT
[2] Han - (BCT), (Chris), death, Chris
[1] Sultan - ctes, (Chris), (Ulti)
[1] Lea - Sheep
[0] Chris - (Ulti), (Lea), (Sultan)
[0] Sheep - (Chris), (Han), (Lea), (Dumey), (Wallz)
[0] JC - (Han), (Ulti), (Sultan)
[0] Dumey - (Ulti), (Ulti)
[0] Wallz - (BCT), (BCT)
[0] ctes - (Sultan)

Call these official.

EDumey posted...

Man, I don't know about this time stamp business, but BCT responding to my old comment about their Chris-fear looking cringe when I was talking to Lea earlier today in the middle of that post definitely makes it seem like BCT is keeping tabs of their mentions but not actively posting. I can't prove that BCT isn't just trying to catch up, but I don't entirely disagree with Ulti claiming BCT was scummoned.

I'm trying to get caught up and felt like addressing it!

If you think I was scummoned, so be it. My flip will make you look awful.

Fwiw I think BCT might well hide away and only respond when summoned as either alignment. He definitely did it a fair bit as Scum before. That said, I'm not particularly interested in specialing him unless things change. It's frankly boring and unambitious.

Ohey BCT is doing the thing I did.
Thats at least worth one townpoint right there

BlueCrystalTear posted...

I feel like nobody remembers how I was in Nickelodeon Mafia.

Okay. Can you please elaborate on how this is relevant?

Sheep007 posted...

If Crescent or Wall are around, I'd kinda like to discuss this a little with them (mostly because they're the only people I fully trust rn). This is mostly a thought process thing with a lot of instinct involved here, so bear with me if it's a bit muddled.

So where I stand with ~1 hour to go is that

I don't feel good about Han or Lea. I feel good about Death, who they are both voting and suspect.

Death's responses slowly get worse, to the point I am almost comfortable going for him. I still don't actually feel any better about either Han or Lea as a result.
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Meanwhile, I feel good about Chris. I don't feel good about Sultan.

Chris votes Sultan and continues to pressure him over something that I honestly don't see as scummy coming from Sultan, and Sultan responds... fine? And honestly, the gutless weasel thing seems too much from someone I feel was a little meeker as Scum.

Chris votes Han, for reasons that I frankly think are bad (I do not understand nor agree on the argument on tmi for Sultan in the slightest).

Frankly, I do not know where in the fucketh I stand right now. The only one of these five players I have zero interest in ever lynching today is Chris. But honestly, I think his argument on Han is weak, I think Death's argument on Han is weak, and I'm not sure I want to go down that angle.

Also, Ulti not reading to the extent he thinks I'm obvious scum and everyone got bored of the pressure makes me think even more it's Town Ulti (I don't really give a shit about the claim, I'll consider it further if I think Ulti is ever in the PoE). I feel like Scum may have at least mentioned that I did a fair bit of work today in passing on their board and made him not make that comment.

Meow

Sheep007 posted...

Fwiw I think BCT might well hide away and only respond when summoned as either alignment. He definitely did it a fair bit as Scum before. That said, I'm not particularly interested in specialing him unless things change. It's frankly boring and unambitious.

I agree with that.

BlueCrystalTear posted...

I feel like nobody remembers how I was in Nickelodeon Mafia.

This game has come up way too much already

How fitting that Harry Kim cant even get anyone to care about his claim.

UltimaterializerX posted...

I am going to say this one time and one time only.

Mafia is a game. You are taking one vote waaaaaaaay too seriously, and if you actually are town here then you need to stop getting so stressed out over nothing. Its one vote, no one followed me, and your chances of being lynched just in reading the room is like 3%.

Calm down my dude.

The fact that you waffled back and forth on me when I wasn't even here was suspicious. If you had done so with someone else, it would've been equally suspect. Did you miss me stating that part? I legitimately suspect you not because you voted for me, but because you kept going back and forth for practically no reason. Methinks you know I'm town.

I get that it is a game. But the only thing making me stressed right now is catching up!

htaeD posted...

How fitting that Harry Kim cant even get anyone to care about his claim.

I care. I'm just thinking.

htaeD posted...

In what way?

The key point of why I voted you was because Lea was on you and I trust her and thought she felt strongly about you. Also, I wanted to get something happening, and the only other thing happening was vote on me which I spent enough energy on. Chris's actions enhanced my reason for going on you, and your reaction I thought oozed frustration... which I don't think lines up with thinking I'm Scum.

Oh and Sheep let me try to pinpoint why you say you feel bad about Lea:

Lea's feels like she's been gaslighting Death quite a lot, even when no longer voting him?

UltimaterializerX posted...

Sure I buy it.

##Unvote
##Vote: Han

The b e t r a y a l.

Claim time or pain time.

Death you should also claim.

Death already did claim.

Lea posted...

You'll never get promoted beyond ensign with a claim like that, Death

Lea softclaiming Janeway confirmed
(Thats a joke... so is this image)

https://i.imgur.com/33cP5HM.jpg

Also my votals earlier were incorrect in one part, I missed Ulti's vote on BCT.
It no longer exists but still