Board 8 > Star Trek Mafia - Topic 4: There Be Whales Here!

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Obellisk
03/07/23 2:17:39 PM
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The Crew:
1- BlueCrystalTear
2- Crescent-Moon
3- ctes
4- Death
5- EDumey
6- Han
7- JC
8- Lea
9- MZero
10- Sheep007
11- SirChris
12- Sultan
13- UltimaterializerX
14- wallmasterz

With 14 players alive it takes 8 to lynch. Day ends at 8:00pm(EST), Tuesday March 7th


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Crescent-Moon
03/07/23 3:22:35 PM
#2:


EDumey posted... I'm about to omega wall post, but I feel like I should do it in the next topic. So here we goooooo.
OMEGA METROID POST GO

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EDumey
03/07/23 3:23:02 PM
#3:


Not 100% caught up with last two pages but here we go.

The ISO where I eat Death for Lunch

1.204 Death enters topic late due to not realizing game had started yet.
1.211 Death makes his primary catchup post. Notes Crescent going for the jugular, twitchy BCT as town. Dumey as playing differently than previous games, but no alignment indication. Sheep making excuses for activity and being 'theatrical'.
Asks Ulti a question about directing Town Power.
1.212 Death clarifies to Wallmasterz about how cops are implemented in B8 mafia.
1.213 Sheep Pretty sure Death is Town, btw, there's a lot more good stuff in that first meaningful post than I would expect [...]
1.215 Death That was a pretty swift assessment, Sheep
1.222 townreads shouldnt distract me
What did you mean again with the part about helping Edumey, Sheep?
1.233 in response to Sheep's answer, I suppose this is the answer I should have expected, but I feel let down regardless.
1.234 Death responds to Ulti about answering Wallmaster's cop question even though Ulti asked people not to. (Death answered after Wall did.)
1.236 Asks Ulti to respond to his prior question.
1.246 Death responds to Ulti's answer, Fair enough. [...](didnt really do much either way but whatever)
1.253 Death notes that he thought Sheep was joking about being afraid of Chris.
1.255 Death says he can't tell if Sheep's instant read on him is Sheep-like or trying to manipulate him.
1.264 Death responds to a question from Chris about the accuracy of Sheep's read. Death says he's less casual as scum and pay a lot more attention. Death is more noting that Sheep always takes a day 1 interest in him, so would be suspicious if he didn't try to read Death early.
1.271 Honestly I felt Sultan was acting like Sultan even without the concussion.
1.273 He was [ankle bitey] during Master Duel mafia. But with more tunnelvision on specific players.

Between the next posts there was conversation from other people about how easy or hard it was to read Death.

1.402 Death says makes a joke comment about the conversation about him, and then, Anyway Sheep even humoring a sametime claim at this stage just strikes me in a confusing way. Thats not even half of a good idea.
1.404 Oh and he claimed vanilla? Now I really don't follow him anymore.
1.412 Death surprised Wallmaster voted for Sheep, but said it didn't com eout of nowhere because Wall justified it after.
1.417 Death wants Chris to give more of a take on Sheep's claim.
1.427 Death says Sheep/Dumey seem like not a pair. But dislikes the way Dumey unvoted Sheep. I feel like Edumey should at least have the mindset that even a nilla should not claim for no or little reason. In general I just think he backed off too easily.
1.428 Death says 'he wouldn't do that as scum' is a meaningless argument to him referring to Sheep's claim.
1.431 Dumey responds to Death's post 427, but no further response from Death.
2.004 Death defends Sheep from Crescent saying whatever is keeping Sheep from being online immediately after his claim could be the reason he isn't engaging with arguments at the moment.
2.009 I care about the flavor for what its worth. And Sheep does have to claim his.
2.032 Han what is the point you wanted to make? My brain is also slow atm in response to Han saying that scum care more about getting flavor right than town do.
2.061 Sheep did you not consider the ramifications of claiming nilla?
2.064 In reference to Sultan theorizing that Dumey and Sheep are masons, Flavorwise I doubt it.
2.091 Sheep what do you make of Mzero?
2.095 Yes its hard to get anything on him yet, But its good to have you r current stance spelled out

2.102 JC comes in with his list post that states, 4- Death - my gut is screaming death is scum i can't lie or explain or justify it. normally my gut pings him town and gives him the benefit of the doubt, that is not happening here.
JC votes Death

2.103 Death (probably not seeing JC's post yet) says, Anyway I probably wont get much thinking done tonight, so instead I will just ask more minor questions.
Sheep, how do you feel about Sultan now?
2.106 Well that's a dead of a vote, isn't it?
Even if I'd ignore the part about it being nothing more than a 'gut read'
The fact that a gutread is your strongest read is just not good.
2.110 I wouldn't call Sheeps read on me a soulread. He listed actual reasons and stuff.
[] I don't know what you expect to happen by voting me tho

2.112 Lea votes Death old man Death says he fears no consequences here

2.119 Death responds Oh Lea [] I was just saying my natural towniness will convince JC to do better in due time.
2.123 Death implies Sheep's read on him is less of a soul read than JC's.

2.149 Dumey posts Death I think in the previous game played more of a "voice of reason" but as JC pointed out, Death has only really pinged people for questions so far, so Death has not impressed me yet.

Death has gone to bed at this point and will not return until ungodly hours of the night in nice timezones.

HERE'S THE IMPORTANT PART WITH THE CONCLUSION AT THE BOTTOM

Death's contention with me was that I obviously missed all of his good content posting through the game, and saying that he has posted shockingly little was incorrect. Death's defense against JC is that he has posted more than stuff about Sheep. The reads Death is talking about are HIS VERY FIRST CATCH-UP POST OF THE GAME. After Death comes back, he gives some more reads like liking Sultan, but the only real thing he mentioned of Sultan before JC's callout was a post or two with Chris talking about past games and asking Sheep about Sultan later in Topic 2.
I think it is fair to analyze Death's contributions as being at least 70% entirely revolving around Sheep, with some front loaded opinions and minor interactions here or there. At one point Death even self-awarely admits that he's just asking more minor questions as that's what his play had been for at least the entirety of Topic Two up to that point. My conclusion is that Death did have a few more characteristic voice of reason posts that I remember from my first read of the topic, but his actual contribution of opinions past his initial catchup post were exactly as JC and I accused him of. Being Sheep-centered for the majority of it and just asking questions. I don't think Death's insistence that I must not be reading his post because he's contributed a lot more than that holds up under scrutiny. I am also more aware of a Death/Sultan pairing by doing this ISO, though I'm not confident enough to say what that pairing actually is.

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EDumey
03/07/23 3:24:50 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

I feel like this is a good appraisal of where I'm at with Death post-coming back from after JC and I threw shade at him.

##Vote: Death

Going to put this on record at the very least.

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SirChris
03/07/23 3:25:45 PM
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SirChris posted...
I don't know if I actually said Ulti was bait, everyone else did. I was just hoping to prod Ulti to see what happened and then nothing at all happened which I found interesting.

Anyway I expect town Ulti who hasn't played with me in awhile to talk with me more than he has. In SWP for example Ulti was asking my opinion on things quite a bit and it worked out well for town until it didn't.

(town finished second, so they didn't really lose)

anyway as for Han I was being pretty glib but I was fresh off 'misunderstandings are a towntell' from another game and felt like I should keep it rolling. However, the push on JC felt predatory to me and when I tried to talk about it in a serious manner Han called the questions dumb. I don't appreciate that because let me be very clear. I am Chris. I don't ask dumb questions.


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EDumey
03/07/23 3:29:28 PM
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UltimaterializerX posted...
Okay yeah Death has to be town now.

For Ulti, literally, I have cited his early game looking nice to me but then his lack of follow up as a specific reason for me suspecting him now.

Chris its on the same page.

And sure Ill happily chat with you. Lets pretend you have a double vote and Im the second vote. Who would you ask me to vote for and why?

The answer cannot be Death, Crescent, or Wall. Those are my strongest town reads.
Is Death a strong town read just because I am on him and followed up on the ISO I said I would do? Or do you have an actual merit?

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ctesjbuvf
03/07/23 3:29:53 PM
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I'm still not completely caught up, or have at least only skimmed parts of the latter half of topic 3, but I want this vote on record

##vote: Sultan

For someone that is generally viewed as easy to read town, Sultan just haven't looked good. Most reads have been off, and I've felt that he has been trying to argue his that his opinions are right after having decided on the opinion.

I hope to be caught properly up on everything going on, but this is where I'm at now.

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SirChris
03/07/23 3:30:17 PM
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HanOfTheNekos posted...
Here's your detective work, Chris:

Death had JC as his first guy on his kill list. The guy I've been voting for since last night. And yet, I received no assistance! I received no back-up. No, Death has been quiet on that one.

But the moment I put a vote on him, he votes back? The guy who he apparently has agreed with on reads this whole past 18 or so hours?

I also find it interesting that there instantly were switches to you, as if trying to distract from the vote I placed.

Your thoughts, if you would?


This feels backwards to me from a scum death perspective. Which seems to be very common for us today it seems.

I feel like scum death had every opportunity to smack JC around kind of unimpeded but instead he chooses to sink his teeth into you? From the perspective of town Han that makes even less sense than scum jc smacking town death to me.

On the other hand scum death who got me off his back could be using this as a chance to pocket me thinking I wouldn't turn on him with the sudden viciousness of a king cobra

Hi Death

Mind giving an update on your reads of people?

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TheSultanOfSlam
03/07/23 3:31:51 PM
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Yet when I answered said questions you didn't even bat an eye.. Double standard from me vs Han you probably would have responded to his answers what makes mine any different?

I know this was over a topic ago lol.

I may have mush brain right now but I feel like you've been a bit contradictory

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SirChris
03/07/23 3:32:00 PM
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UltimaterializerX posted...
Okay yeah Death has to be town now.

For Ulti, literally, I have cited his early game looking nice to me but then his lack of follow up as a specific reason for me suspecting him now.

Chris its on the same page.

And sure Ill happily chat with you. Lets pretend you have a double vote and Im the second vote. Who would you ask me to vote for and why?

The answer cannot be Death, Crescent, or Wall. Those are my strongest town reads.

I mean, I like your town reads so that's something.

Also me wanting to chat with you isn't the same thing as demanding you vote with me or else. Like sure I might demand you vote with me but that's just how I roll tbh.

Anyway Ulti what are your REAL thoughts on Han, Ctes, and Sheep?

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03/07/23 3:32:41 PM
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TheSultanOfSlam posted...
Yet when I answered said questions you didn't even bat an eye.. Double standard from me vs Han you probably would have responded to his answers what makes mine any different?

I know this was over a topic ago lol.

I may have mush brain right now but I feel like you've been a bit contradictory

What are you even talking about

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Crescent-Moon
03/07/23 3:33:49 PM
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I didn't really get a defensive impression from Death at all until he countervoted Han, which gave me a little pause and started me down my little mental rabbit hole a bit. I will say I had some blinders on early regarding a possible tunnel Sheep given I was grilling Sheep over playing like a limp noodle (though like I've said, Sheep actually admitting he has been playing that way without making excuses for it made me feel a little better). I do remember him asking Sheep multiple questions in a short timeframe though.

I do still hold strictly through player meta though that if Death is scum, Han is town, and one of the three previous votes on him was scum. Death being scum would nearly townlock Han as far as I'm concerned.

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SirChris
03/07/23 3:34:03 PM
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ctesjbuvf posted...
I'm still not completely caught up, or have at least only skimmed parts of the latter half of topic 3, but I want this vote on record

##vote: Sultan

For someone that is generally viewed as easy to read town, Sultan just haven't looked good. Most reads have been off, and I've felt that he has been trying to argue his that his opinions are right after having decided on the opinion.

I hope to be caught properly up on everything going on, but this is where I'm at now.

I don't know the circumstances but Sultan was apparently mislynched just last game. Is he acting a lot different here than he did there?

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Crescent-Moon
03/07/23 3:34:33 PM
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EDumey posted...
I am also more aware of a Death/Sultan pairing by doing this ISO, though I'm not confident enough to say what that pairing actually is.
Oh and Sultan I've already said is someone I wouldn't mind going after today and this has not changed.

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TheSultanOfSlam
03/07/23 3:35:57 PM
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SirChris posted...
What are you even talking about

You asked me to answer the same questions as Han and completely ignored me. Yet if Han answered you would have jumped at him and belittled him from not answering them and calling them stupid.

So would the answers wouldn't have mattered??

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03/07/23 3:36:47 PM
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TheSultanOfSlam posted...
You asked me to answer the same questions as Han and completely ignored me. Yet if Han answered you would have jumped at him and belittled him from not answering them and calling them stupid.

So would the answers wouldn't have mattered??

Did... did I miss a post from you? If I completely missed a post then I probably just missed it. What post from you should I be addressing?

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TheSultanOfSlam
03/07/23 3:38:02 PM
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let me go find what I'm talking about.

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Crescent-Moon
03/07/23 3:38:04 PM
#22:


And Sultan not reacting in any way to being in my poe bugs me a bit. Feels like town Sultan would be more likely to respond to it.

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SirChris
03/07/23 3:38:38 PM
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UltimaterializerX posted...
Lean town, cant read, scum.

For ctes specifically Ive suspected him in almost game Ive played in for him being shady, and hes been town sandbagging every time. Turns out the man is an actual genius.

Scum Han would have tunneled me by now instead of the occasional needling. Town Han learned the hard way that being wrong on Town Ulti is a bad idea so I think he passes the vibe check. He lines up pretty much exactly with my town read of him.

Sheep I think we all figured out awhile ago and then just got bored.

Sheep I feel like is treating me in a way that I am familiar with him doing when he is town, which is asking me a lot of questions and making notes about it. I don't know how well sheep as scum would adjust to early pressure and settle down though. It would be kind of funny since death brought up fire emblem if sheep is this game's death though who early claim got me, but I actually don't think that's the case atm

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SirChris
03/07/23 3:40:29 PM
#24:


To be honest I don't know if I remember the last time I played with scum Han. I don't think I have a playbook there at all.

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TheSultanOfSlam
03/07/23 3:42:44 PM
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Okay so you asked myself and Han questions based on our Votes on JC.

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Okay so I guess Chris is argument is more so bad town play and not scum play.

Why would scum JC pick a fight with death there?
Answer: Jc wants to pick someone to make him look good having a gut read on. Death sounds more appealing that saying a gut read in BCT. And what fight there is hasn't been really a fight to it?

What's the motivation?
answer: to look like he is doing something productive and look like he is trying to solve the game.

How does scum JC benefit from doing that with a weak reason?

Answer: Why would anyone do this? Why didn't he go after Sheep or Ulti if he was town? Role of 3?? Doesn't want to go after one of the team mates. I guess he could to after the other. Maybe He truely has nothing at all and pulled something out of his hat.

What does it accomplish for him?
Answer: to look town

Why not sheep me?
Answer: he litterally said he has fear of you and that be and doesn't want to get caught by following you. Beacuse you know you're like Mafia God of B8.

Why not attack a weaker player?

Answer: like I said it's more appealing that saying oh I got this big soul read on someone weak. That isn't as appealing as I got a soul read on a good player like Death.

I answered you completely ignored it but attacked Han for calling them dumb and not wanting to answer..

If he answered would it have even mattered?

That is the contradiction you attack Han for not answering but didn't even give a hoot that I did!


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SirChris
03/07/23 3:43:22 PM
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Okay Sultan for the record I just plain missed the post lol

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SirChris
03/07/23 3:45:29 PM
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TheSultanOfSlam posted...
Okay so you asked myself and Han questions based on our Votes on JC.

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Okay so I guess Chris is argument is more so bad town play and not scum play.

Why would scum JC pick a fight with death there?
Answer: Jc wants to pick someone to make him look good having a gut read on. Death sounds more appealing that saying a gut read in BCT. And what fight there is hasn't been really a fight to it?

What's the motivation?
answer: to look like he is doing something productive and look like he is trying to solve the game.

How does scum JC benefit from doing that with a weak reason?

Answer: Why would anyone do this? Why didn't he go after Sheep or Ulti if he was town? Role of 3?? Doesn't want to go after one of the team mates. I guess he could to after the other. Maybe He truely has nothing at all and pulled something out of his hat.

What does it accomplish for him?
Answer: to look town

Why not sheep me?
Answer: he litterally said he has fear of you and that be and doesn't want to get caught by following you. Beacuse you know you're like Mafia God of B8.

Why not attack a weaker player?

Answer: like I said it's more appealing that saying oh I got this big soul read on someone weak. That isn't as appealing as I got a soul read on a good player like Death.

I answered you completely ignored it but attacked Han for calling them dumb and not wanting to answer..

If he answered would it have even mattered?

That is the contradiction you attack Han for not answering but didn't even give a hoot that I did!

Anyway to the first point I feel as if scum JC could conjure something, anything, better than 'gut' there and expect to look good. Like if scum JC's whole evil plot there was to look good then surely they could come up with some magical force better than 'going with my gut', don't you think? It's not like he's Han after all.

(speaking of where the fuck is hangut)

Anyway I guess this is an important thing to ask, Sultan. Do you think JC is a decent player?

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ctesjbuvf
03/07/23 3:45:35 PM
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SirChris posted...
I don't know the circumstances but Sultan was apparently mislynched just last game. Is he acting a lot different here than he did there?

I was suspicious of him last game, but eventually changed my mind and was not around for his sudden mislynch (neither was he) in my case due to timezones. I've hesitated a bit because of the concussion, but I don't feel like he has been acting the same.

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TheSultanOfSlam
03/07/23 3:46:17 PM
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well... that was a major pushing point for Me on why you look scummy..

I was waiting until I had the time to push this and make my argument to add to being on a wave length with ulti sound better...

All this effort just for that response is killing me....

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TheSultanOfSlam
03/07/23 3:47:19 PM
#31:


SirChris posted...
Anyway I guess this is an important thing to ask, Sultan. Do you think JC is a decent player?

He has impressed me the few games since he came back to playing so I'd say yes

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03/07/23 3:47:35 PM
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ctesjbuvf posted...
I was suspicious of him last game, but eventually changed my mind and was not around for his sudden mislynch (neither was he) in my case due to timezones. I've hesitated a bit because of the concussion, but I don't feel like he has been acting the same.

Well my question for you ctes is when did you change your mind? You cited that sultan is obvious but just last game makes it seem like that's not as much of the case.

I think it was Sheep that brought up a super valid point that while my first reaction is going 'aww look, Sultan is trying to murder me this is familiar' I had to poke sultan a few times about it.

We do have a concussion on our hands though, so maybe sultan needs a rest from mafia

a very long rest


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03/07/23 3:48:08 PM
#33:


TheSultanOfSlam posted...
He has impressed me the few games since he came back to playing so I'd say yes

So why does decent player JC pin his hopes of looking good on a gut read iyo?

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03/07/23 3:50:29 PM
#34:


SirChris posted...
So why does decent player JC pin his hopes of looking good on a gut read iyo?

I don't know it just threw me off that he had other reads but goes with a weakly explained guy feeling.
I've seen him make similar processed and takes the read not the gut.

But maybe im missing something that his guy has been more correct then his reads recently or something

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Crescent-Moon
03/07/23 3:50:42 PM
#35:


ctesjbuvf posted...
I was suspicious of him last game, but eventually changed my mind and was not around for his sudden mislynch (neither was he) in my case due to timezones. I've hesitated a bit because of the concussion, but I don't feel like he has been acting the same.
If there's one thing that specifically struck me as off, it was his vote on you. It felt like a genuine moment of trying too hard without thinking things through.

Like, he lists 3 people who did something, but he votes none of them. He gets called out on how soft his post was, most noticeably by Chris. Soon he notices you did it, too, and he immediately votes you without taking the time to consider context. It's like he just wanted to find a reason to get a vote down and it's never felt right.

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03/07/23 3:51:38 PM
#36:


HanOfTheNekos posted...
I implied to Sheep that I wanted him to respond about his read on Death, but didn't ask him outright.

I think I'm going to step away and return to this later because a review of Page 1 has me thinking the opposite of what I thought going in. I still didn't like Sheep's posts and neither Dumey's, but the whole "I was gonna claim but decided not to" and "lol me too let's same time" just... Scum doesn't do that.

##Unvote: Sheep


Sheep, I have no idea why Han would think this tbh. It's like Han has never seen a single scum who like to live on the edge.

Maybe this was shorthand for "I don't think scum Sheep does it" which I guess I could see, but also you are a crafty player so I don't know why that rebuke was so strong based off that of all things.

Needless to say regardless of Han's alignment him and I are not vibing at all this game.

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ctesjbuvf
03/07/23 3:54:46 PM
#37:


SirChris posted...
Well my question for you ctes is when did you change your mind? You cited that sultan is obvious but just last game makes it seem like that's not as much of the case.

Do you mean why I changed my mind last game? I think a fair share of people thought he was obvious town last game after a while, I'm usually more hesitant, it was a weird special kind of mislynch. Don't recall how many scum were on it.

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SirChris
03/07/23 3:55:24 PM
#38:


That being said I don't think I can let the concussion sway me any longer.

SirChris posted...
Sultan, go make a list for me

TheSultanOfSlam posted...
I mean I can I guess

SirChris posted...
congratulations you are now as scummy as ctes was for making that list.


He was still voting ctes for me at the time for making a list I requested

lol

##unvote: Han
##vote: Sultan


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htaeD
03/07/23 3:55:28 PM
#39:


Oh I guess I came back for something juicy

Time to eat it piece by piece

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03/07/23 3:56:21 PM
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Though I will head off my response by saying that I still feel like I did more than 'shockingly little'.

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SirChris
03/07/23 3:56:30 PM
#41:


Crescent-Moon posted...
If there's one thing that specifically struck me as off, it was his vote on you. It felt like a genuine moment of trying too hard without thinking things through.

Like, he lists 3 people who did something, but he votes none of them. He gets called out on how soft his post was, most noticeably by Chris. Soon he notices you did it, too, and he immediately votes you without taking the time to consider context. It's like he just wanted to find a reason to get a vote down and it's never felt right.

ninja'd

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EDumey
03/07/23 3:58:00 PM
#42:


SirChris posted...
That being said I don't think I can let the concussion sway me any longer.

He was still voting ctes for me at the time for making a list I requested

lol

##unvote: Han
##vote: Sultan

Just so I'm not crazy, you weren't actually asking him to list post when that happened right? You were just making a joke about how silly it would be to incriminate Ctes for a list post when he was just responding to your request?
The fact that Sultan actually went and made a list post after that at your request was so cute.

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SirChris
03/07/23 3:59:07 PM
#43:


EDumey posted...
Just so I'm not crazy, you weren't actually asking him to list post when that happened right? You were just making a joke about how silly it would be to incriminate Ctes for a list post when he was just responding to your request?
The fact that Sultan actually went and made a list post after that at your request was so cute.

Yeah I wasn't actually expecting a list lol

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EDumey
03/07/23 4:00:36 PM
#44:


htaeD posted...
Though I will head off my response by saying that I still feel like I did more than 'shockingly little'.
I won't be surprised to hear you try and defend yourself in that regard. But I would ask if you can charitably understand that JC and I could have come to that conclusion from the majority of your work? Because I think claiming that I am purposely misrepresenting you is a far stretch when I think it was reasonable for me to come to that general understanding.

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ctesjbuvf
03/07/23 4:00:44 PM
#45:


Crescent-Moon posted...
If there's one thing that specifically struck me as off, it was his vote on you. It felt like a genuine moment of trying too hard without thinking things through.

Like, he lists 3 people who did something, but he votes none of them. He gets called out on how soft his post was, most noticeably by Chris. Soon he notices you did it, too, and he immediately votes you without taking the time to consider context. It's like he just wanted to find a reason to get a vote down and it's never felt right.

I actually thought this was crazy to a point of where I just thought it was amusing initially. But I took issue with the JC list vote because it didn't seem like he could agree with himself on what he took issue with entirely.

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HanOfTheNekos
03/07/23 4:02:22 PM
#46:


SirChris posted...
However, the push on JC felt predatory to me and when I tried to talk about it in a serious manner Han called the questions dumb. I don't appreciate that because let me be very clear. I am Chris. I don't ask dumb questios.

Did I say the questions were dumb? I opened by saying they weren't compelling... and I think I called them bad later. I don't believe I called them dumb.

Either way, I'm home now, but I still have to squeeze in about 20 minutes of work, so I'll be doing that.

I'll pull up your questions here Chris, but I will point out that, by your own logic (which you unvoted Death for), he is Scum this game.

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SirChris
03/07/23 4:03:31 PM
#47:


HanOfTheNekos posted...
Did I say the questions were dumb? I opened by saying they weren't compelling... and I think I called them bad later. I don't believe I called them dumb.

Either way, I'm home now, but I still have to squeeze in about 20 minutes of work, so I'll be doing that.

I'll pull up your questions here Chris, but I will point out that, by your own logic (which you unvoted Death for), he is Scum this game.

I get dumb/bad mixed up in my head.

Walk me through death is scum with my logic when you have a moment.

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HanOfTheNekos
03/07/23 4:07:49 PM
#48:


Scum Death flinches

He very clearly and inarguably flinched

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TheSultanOfSlam
03/07/23 4:08:13 PM
#50:


SirChris posted...
That being said I don't think I can let the concussion sway me any longer.

He was still voting ctes for me at the time for making a list I requested

lol

##unvote: Han
##vote: Sultan

... ??

Let me get this straight I do a list at your request scum.

Ctes does it without being prompted town??


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