Board 8 > Star Trek Mafia - Topic 4: There Be Whales Here!

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I feel like Sultan is the easy out being presented. Chris wanted to rile up Ulti to get some reactions out of him. I don't remember exactly how Han got into the mix. But then when it became something where it looks like a decision between Chris/Ulti/Han, Sultan is introduced as a easy branch to jump off to.

This is the first of three games I've played where 80% of the game doesn't immediately town clear Sultan. Is that a sign that town in previous games were better at reading Sultan than I gave them credit for? Or that Sultan is being propped up as an easy target now?

I just want Sultan himself to explain this particular word trip.

I actually don't think Sultan is super townie atm because of my thoughts about Death. But I feel like a lynch on Sultan right now would basically amount to being a special, and not on an actual case presented on him.

EDumey posted...

I feel like Sultan is the easy out being presented. Chris wanted to rile up Ulti to get some reactions out of him. I don't remember exactly how Han got into the mix. But then when it became something where it looks like a decision between Chris/Ulti/Han, Sultan is introduced as a easy branch to jump off to.

This is the first of three games I've played where 80% of the game doesn't immediately town clear Sultan. Is that a sign that town in previous games were better at reading Sultan than I gave them credit for? Or that Sultan is being propped up as an easy target now?

Isn't there another option here

SirChris posted...

Isn't there another option here

If you're saying the option is he is scum, then that would be the first option.

UltimaterializerX posted...

If I gave you my vote, where would you have me put it and why?

I will not vote for Death, Wall, Crescent, Lea, or you.

You've seen my list.

Unfortunately Ulti, it appears we are at odds and will not agree here. The only thing that looks possible there is an agreement to lynch MZero which is like, you know, super boring. I mean I'd choose it over the majority of the game's players, but

EDumey posted...

If you're saying the option is he is scum, then that would be the first option.

He's saying Death is being voted too

EDumey posted...

If you're saying the option is he is scum, then that would be the first option.

Ah I see what you mean now.

I will say I have played with Sultan plenty and actually bs suspicion of him in poke wars made me absolutely eat Ben alive so...

Don't know what Han is on about

UltimaterializerX posted...

Im actually legitimately sad you and Han havent figured out my alignment and role already. If anyone can town soul read me its you two.

sadge indeed

Dude, I spent the entirety of last game saying you were probably Scum

htaeD posted...

I just want Sultan himself to explain this particular word trip.

I was requested is what i ewas talking about when i went back to my vote on JC following my lisit, To make a list by Chris.
I didnt acknowledge ctes specifically like Creasent is saying I did.

I didnt realize Ctes was specifically asked I thought it was a ritorical request or something Chris made or something like that
I legit was confused like I pointed out last page
I asked by why he did this. I was still confused after the unvote on Ctes.

UltimaterializerX posted...

Im actually legitimately sad you and Han havent figured out my alignment and role already. If anyone can town soul read me its you two.

sadge indeed

I am not a literal soul reader if you are town here. Like I have known red since the dawn of time and I require time to read him too. No idea what you are on about

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Dude, I spent the entirety of last game saying you were probably Scum

Lmao

What is up with ulti this game

SirChris posted...

Don't know what Han is on about

Look, I see Sultan is confused. I haven't read the majority of the posts surrounding this whole thing in any sort of detail because they can all boil down to

"Sultan made an oops"

I don't think it's Scummy. Because Sultan makes oopses.

If you want to claim to play many games with Sultan but treat this as out of the ordinary for him, then maybe consider your own sobriety.

EDumey posted...

I actually don't think Sultan is super townie atm because of my thoughts about Death. But I feel like a lynch on Sultan right now would basically amount to being a special, and not on an actual case presented on him.

Pressuring him now is better than pressuring him with 10 minutes left in the day. My problem with how he reacted to it is he essentially tried to adamantly deny any knowledge by claiming I was putting words in his mouth instead of just saying he forgot.

I do find it interesting how quickly Death hooked onto it though despite it's general lack of traction.

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Lea

Talk to me about Ulti. Where are you sitting with regards to him? Ctes, you can also answer this question here.

I think he's legitimately excited about the playerlist and was this even before getting his role. Maybe this is the reason I feel like he has changed his opinion a bit less than usual. Mind you, I have never seen Ulti as scum, I don't think he has rolled it forever. But yeah, nothing has stood out to me.

SirChris posted...

Lmao

What is up with ulti this game

He was worse in the previous game!

Like, that's why I said what I did earlier in this one - Ulti would totally channel his misery and nigh-uninvolvement in last game's canon in a future Scum appearance. It's totally within his wheelhouse.

Isn't claiming BP the auto lynch thing.

Pretty sure thats agreed on

UltimaterializerX posted...

bigly

If anybody ever needed a reason to lynch you, there it is

UltimaterializerX posted...

If youre actually accusing me of being uninvolved or lazy, you are literally factually wrong. Im practically high, dude.

I don't think anyone is saying this.

Crescent-Moon posted...

Pressuring him now is better than pressuring him with 10 minutes left in the day. My problem with how he reacted to it is he essentially tried to adamantly deny any knowledge by claiming I was putting words in his mouth instead of just saying he forgot.

I do find it interesting how quickly Death hooked onto it though despite it's general lack of traction.

I am a bit too stuck in the now and it looked like you'd caught an actual slip

Crescent-Moon posted...

Pressuring him now is better than pressuring him with 10 minutes left in the day. My problem with how he reacted to it is he essentially tried to adamantly deny any knowledge by claiming I was putting words in his mouth instead of just saying he forgot.

I do find it interesting how quickly Death hooked onto it though despite it's general lack of traction.

Tbf

If he forgot he wouldn't know immediately he forgot

UltimaterializerX posted...

YOU JUST SAID DJIVKSNFNIC

Ok Im out. See you guys tomorrow. Scum please shoot me, thanks.

I can see how you read it that way.

What I meant is that you were miserable and had a level of nigh-uninvolvement last game. That caused you to play in a certain way. The way that you played, which seemed to be a lot of confusing bluster, I'm saying that is what you would harness.

I am probably misjudging though.

I think ulti has been decently involved just not how I would expect him to be

Also claiming BP makes me want to kill him as a matter of policy tbh

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I can't find the topic Sultan died in in the logs because I think maybe you made it lol

I don't like Ulti's claim. Outside of the obvious implications of Bodyguard claims, and outside my bias against him, I just don't really see why he claims there.

He's offering up his vote as a sword to Chris and Han, but then when he can't get a clear direction from either of them, he fears that he might get lynched and claims to get in front of it?

er, BP, not BG.

EDumey posted...

I don't like Ulti's claim. Outside of the obvious implications of Bodyguard claims, and outside my bias against him, I just don't really see why he claims there.

He's offering up his vote as a sword to Chris and Han, but then when he can't get a clear direction from either of them, he fears that he might get lynched and claims to get in front of it?

Even funnier is who is his vote on?

An Ulti claim?
I take those with heaps of salt.

Surely I'm not the only one who completely ignored Ulti saying he's bulletproof.

It's Ulti~

Ninja'd you

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Taserproof

Phaserproof you mean.
And that can be a lot of things.

Like it being a BP is not what makes the claim unbelievable.

EDumey posted...

I don't like Ulti's claim. Outside of the obvious implications of Bodyguard claims, and outside my bias against him, I just don't really see why he claims there.

He's offering up his vote as a sword to Chris and Han, but then when he can't get a clear direction from either of them, he fears that he might get lynched and claims to get in front of it?

Yeah, that's a hell of a point.

Oh I have no doubt that Ulti is likely not BP. But the obvious implicaiton here is him trying to direct night actions, which is tbf a very Ulti thing to do.

htaeD posted...

Phaserproof you mean.
And that can be a lot of things.

Like it being a BP is not what makes the claim unbelievable.

Wow how did I fuck that up

Speaking of votes, can we get some recent votals here. We're almost 2 hours from deadline, right?

EDumey posted...

Oh I have no doubt that Ulti is likely not BP. But the obvious implicaiton here is him trying to direct night actions, which is tbf a very Ulti thing to do.

Yep. It's a waste of time to even analyze it, and it kinda bugs me that Han would say "you had a hell of a point" when scrutinizing it.

Like Han super definitely knows better than to take anything Ulti just said at face value.

No no, the hell of a point is not about Ulti claiming BP, it's about him choosing to claim before leaving after offering up his vote to Han and Chris with no result.