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HHH_is_the_game
03/07/23 4:48:10 PM
#101:


Is Mexico City safe to visit ? I know someone who lives there and she says shes never had any incidents ever with crime in the area she lives.

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WestOfDaRockies
03/07/23 4:48:32 PM
#102:


https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-50697635

US President Donald Trump has delayed plans to legally designate Mexican drug cartels as terrorist groups.

Mr Trump had vowed to label the gangs as terrorists after the killing last month of nine American citizens from a Mormon community in Mexico.

But he has put the plans on hold on the request of his Mexican counterpart, Andrs Manuel Lpez Obrador.

"I celebrate that he has taken our opinion into account," the Mexican president said.

"We thank President Trump for respecting our decisions and for choosing to maintain a policy of good neighbourliness, a policy of cooperation with us," he added.

Mr Trump's original announcement came after three women and six children of dual US-Mexican nationality were killed in an ambush in a remote area of northern Mexico.

Following the attack the victims' community, the LeBarons, petitioned the White House to list the cartels as terror groups, saying: "They are terrorists and it's time to acknowledge it."

The move would have widened the scope for US legal and financial action against cartels but Mexico saw it as a violation of its sovereignty...


Looks like Trump gave Mexico another chance. Question is what is Biden going to do about it now?

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the_pika
03/07/23 4:48:47 PM
#103:


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I agree but it's almost a certainty that innocent civilians would get caught up in the strikes. Even if kingpins own houses were struck, you know there would be just regular citizens doing every day work there

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Teddytalks
03/07/23 4:48:50 PM
#104:


lennethsoki posted...
Posts like yours are why I'm glad I broke out of that victim mindset that my community (black) tried to instill in me. I pity you.


The majority of any community gets preference over the minority. This isn't a race thing, but a biological one in the human race. You taking good advice for victim mentality just tells me to an extent you're self hating

Most of the world is like that, from all angles. You need border restrictions because a country only has so many resources, but they need to make sure the person they're letting in will be a benefit and not a hindrance to society. They've gotta care for their own natives first.


Yet the wrong color comment throws you off, and here you admitting people prefer their own.

Even the USA when it's strict, isn't that strict compared to the rest of the world. Singapore, the Scandinavian countries, Japan--so many have incredibly strict rules that would make the USA blush for who they allow to immigrate or not. Because it can very easily lead to lack of housing and job opportunities for the natives who need it depending on how much they relax said rules.


They are also relaxing those rules because their economies are dying. America has exploited Latino Americans for economic growths yet lied about the benefits.

Hell the USA's often called one of the easiest to immigrate to, and that was before the recent relaxation on immigration processes.

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Mr_hulk88
03/07/23 4:51:15 PM
#105:


A_Good_Boy posted...
Seems like it's safe only because one of the cartels chose to make it a safe haven

Sorry but each post from you is increasing in stupidity.

I've lived there basically my whole life. I don't know why a random article written in december about conspiracies is relevant. I can dig and find crime and crazy shit from the US too and base on that to say "US is a dangerous country".
I've been living in CDMX the past 3 years and haven't had any issues here either.

I'm just saying I've never in my life (nor know anyone) who suffered any crime here. Ever.
The sole time I went to the US I was robbed on the street.

Saying "Mexico is a dangerous country" is bs hyperbolic nonsense. There are parts with crime almost everywhere. US has dangerous parts just as Mexico does.

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Teddytalks
03/07/23 4:52:08 PM
#106:


voldothegr8 posted...
Gotta love all the Mexico simps in here.

"C'mon guys it's a totally safe country if you visit these few safe areas!"

The same can be said about America.

Just avoid schools, the inner cities, all the deep south and long roads and intersections in residential neighborhoods because our drivers speed in 7000+ trucks
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WestOfDaRockies
03/07/23 4:53:37 PM
#108:


WestOfDaRockies posted...
Question is what is Biden going to do about it now?

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MarcoRubio
03/07/23 4:54:37 PM
#109:


Soooo 4 Americans kidnapped in America?

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the_pika
03/07/23 4:55:37 PM
#110:


voldothegr8 posted...
Gotta love all the Mexico simps in here.

"C'mon guys it's a totally safe country if you visit these few safe areas!"

of course Mexico is unsafe. And its 3rd world too (or probably more akin to caught between 3rd world and second world).

but you gotta love all of the non racist MAGA-simps that go full pearl-clutch when it comes to Mexico but never see issues with places like Russia or Eastern Europe because theyre white.

did you know many Russians actually emigrate to Latin America, including Mexico because life is better there? Imagine that!
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runewalshPSiv
03/07/23 4:55:45 PM
#111:


Teddytalks posted...
The same can be said about America.

Just avoid schools, the inner cities, all the deep south and long roads and intersections in residential neighborhoods because our drivers speed in 7000+ trucks

Just avoid the inner cities and you are fine 99% of the time.

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R1masher
03/07/23 5:03:45 PM
#112:


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try google

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I4NRulez
03/07/23 5:28:42 PM
#113:


HHH_is_the_game posted...
Is Mexico City safe to visit ? I know someone who lives there and she says shes never had any incidents ever with crime in the area she lives.

yes but you do get the typical big city tourism crime. Pickpocketing, mugging, etc

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WolfFangHowell
03/07/23 5:29:28 PM
#114:


hyperpowder posted...
I honestly never understood why border control was considered a conservative viewpoint. Im pretty liberal, but Im all for boundaries.

I've been called a fascist a dozen times here for suggesting immigration reform over open borders.

Dont bother trying. They're not bright.
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rideshort
03/07/23 6:10:05 PM
#117:


runewalshPSiv posted...
Just avoid the inner cities and you are fine 99% of the time.

Yeah no. This isn't certainly the case.

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iPhone_7
03/08/23 3:12:26 AM
#118:


Avoid the northern states, specifically everything north of Mexico City. Also Jalisco & its neighboring states.

But if you do go to any of them then stick to the resorts or the historical districts in the cities since they got tourists & federales. Youre a tourist, be a tourist.

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the_pika
03/08/23 8:34:36 AM
#119:


iPhone_7 posted...
Avoid the northern states, specifically everything north of Mexico City. Also Jalisco & its neighboring states.

But if you do go to any of them then stick to the resorts or the historical districts in the cities since they got tourists & federales. Youre a tourist, be a tourist.

IDK man, right now it sounds dangerous

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Background_Guy
03/08/23 10:32:52 AM
#120:


runewalshPSiv posted...
Just avoid the inner cities and you are fine 99% of the time.
Usually you're fine in the inner cities as long as you're not afraid of black people.

Anyway the survivors are back in the US
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64882744.amp

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DisgracefulSins
03/08/23 1:09:43 PM
#121:


It's amazing that people here are quick to jump in and claim the US should jump in and handle the cartels for Mexico.

What exactly do people want? Send in the military and invade all of Mexico?

What kinda shady stuff is that? You want them to invade up until they do invade and then you view them negatively.

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runewalshPSiv
03/08/23 2:40:26 PM
#123:


rideshort posted...
Yeah no. This isn't certainly the case.

It has been in my experience.

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orcus_snake
03/08/23 3:00:58 PM
#124:


Avoid the northern states, specifically everything north of Mexico City. Also Jalisco & its neighboring states.

By your metric, like 70% of the country is "northern" states lol.

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toadfan64
03/08/23 3:35:01 PM
#125:


I will never get people wanting to vacation in places like Mexico or South America. So many better and safer places to go to.

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Mr_hulk88
03/08/23 3:38:59 PM
#126:


rideshort posted...
Yeah no. This isn't certainly the case.
What are you basing on to say that? You've been kidnapped many times in Mexico?

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Mr_hulk88
03/08/23 3:41:22 PM
#127:


toadfan64 posted...
I will never get people wanting to vacation in places like Mexico or South America.

So many better and safer places to go to.

Might have something to do with the fact that no, there aren't actually better beaches and also the fact that it is not unsafe.

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AloneIBreak
03/08/23 3:49:22 PM
#128:


Id like to visit Chiapas.

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iPhone_7
03/08/23 5:21:58 PM
#129:


orcus_snake posted...
By your metric, like 70% of the country is "northern" states lol.

EDIT:

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stick to the 30% if you a gringo and want to go outside of the cities & resorts.

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toadfan64
03/08/23 6:54:05 PM
#130:


Mr_hulk88 posted...
Might have something to do with the fact that no, there aren't actually better beaches and also the fact that it is not unsafe.
Well countries like Canada, UK, Germany, France, Australia, and Japan are a hell of a lot more safer for Americans to visit over Mexico. And if beaches are wanted, Australia has plenty of nice ones.

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Mr_hulk88
03/08/23 7:32:08 PM
#131:


Um...Europe (except for UK) has the safest places in the world. Wtf does that (and Canada lmao) have to do with hot destinations to visit?

I'm responding to you saying "I don't get why people would go to Mexico" which I find really bizarre, to not say dumb.

Um I dunno, cause it has the best tropical beaches? I's the Caribbean. As for safety, I had literally no idea this was even a thing until this thread, which reeks of ignorance. Mexico is as "unsafe" as Chicago or Las Vegas my dude.
Basically I don't know what you've been fed and you can think whatever weird idea you want obviously, what's wrong is you randomly spreading blatantly false things when none of the ones who have been commenting that have actually been here, correct?

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A_Good_Boy
03/08/23 7:34:43 PM
#132:


Mr_hulk88 posted...
Might have something to do with the fact that no, there aren't actually better beaches and also the fact that it is not unsafe.
Of course it's not unsafe, the national guard is patrolling the beaches.

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Beveren_Rabbit
03/08/23 7:37:35 PM
#133:


toadfan64 posted...
I will never get people wanting to vacation in places like Mexico or South America. So many better and safer places to go to.


it's to prove that these places aren't as bad as people say. dozens of youtubers make videos about going to "no travel" zones and having a good time.

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Mr_hulk88
03/08/23 7:39:23 PM
#134:


A_Good_Boy posted...
Of course it's not unsafe, the national guard is patrolling the beaches.

You already said that yesterday, remember? I asked what makes you say Mexico is an unsafe country, other than the situation in Tulum. Will you reply this time or ignore and then repeat the same thing? Let's find out.
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A_Good_Boy
03/08/23 7:41:50 PM
#135:


Mr_hulk88 posted...
You already said that yesterday, remember? I asked what makes you say Mexico is an unsafe country, other than the situation in Tulum. Will you reply this time or ignore and then repeat the same thing? Let's find out.
I already provided sources showing that your own hometown wasn't safe and you cried about it. What's the point of doing more work just for you to dismiss it?

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Mr_hulk88
03/08/23 7:44:19 PM
#136:


Eh no.. the dismissal would be you referring to my response to that as "crying" about it.

Very hard to believe you're being serious and not just antagonistic for no reason.

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Mr_hulk88
03/08/23 7:47:42 PM
#137:


A_Good_Boy posted...
your own hometown wasn't safe

Also wtf. You telling me you know better about my hometown lmao. Are you okay dude?

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A_Good_Boy
03/08/23 7:47:58 PM
#138:


Ain't no antagonism here fella. I've sourced my opinion and explained my points multiple times itt. If you're just going to outright dismiss the escalating security measures from your very own country and ignore the newspaper articles from your own hometown because they don't coincide with your worldview then there's nothing more I can say or do to change your mind.

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Mr_hulk88
03/08/23 8:01:02 PM
#139:


A_Good_Boy posted...
Ain't no antagonism here fella. I've sourced my opinion and explained my points multiple times itt.
There is. And no, you didn't explain literally any points ever.

You've thrown snide remarks and ignored the question of which places are you talking about other than Tulum. Then now, regarding your article to which I gave a specific response, you respond antagonistically again by referring to it as me "crying about it".

So let me try again.
I said: My hometown is safe. I am right and you are wrong. I actually know that since I am the one who lived there for 22 years.
And regarding your article, I said: I can sit and google crimes and conspiracy theories about mod in the US, and I will find many. So? Then what?

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Mr_hulk88
03/08/23 8:10:04 PM
#140:


A_Good_Boy posted...
Ain't no antagonism here fella. I've sourced my opinion and explained my points multiple times itt.
There is. And no you didn't explain literally any points ever, let alone multiple times. You've thrown snide remarks and ignored the question of which places are you talking about other than Tulum. Then now, regarding your article to which I gave a specific response, you respond antagonistically again by referring to it as me "crying about it".
So far you haven't made one serious response. It's all hostile, sarcastic dismissal.

So let me try again.

I said: My hometown is safe. I am right and you are wrong. I actually know that since I am the one who lived there for 22 years.
And regarding your article, I said: I can sit and google crimes and conspiracy theories about the mob in the US, and I will find many. So?
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A_Good_Boy
03/08/23 8:11:47 PM
#141:


Mr_hulk88 posted...
And regarding your article, I said: I can sit and google crimes and conspiracy theories about the mob in the US, and I will find many. So?
You will never hear it from me that the US is safe or amazing country lol. If you want to argue that point then I agree with you 100%.

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Stallion_Prime
03/08/23 8:15:11 PM
#142:


So this only bothers you because it's Americans? The locals deal with this shit all the time. It's a fucked up situation in Mexico they're living

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Mr_hulk88
03/08/23 8:15:58 PM
#143:


A_Good_Boy posted...
You will never hear it from me that the US is safe or amazing country lol. If you want to argue that point then I agree with you 100%.

Do you refer to the US as "a dangerous country" though?

My only issue is the idea on this thread that Mexico as a whole is unsafe, when you're going by isolated situations or places that aren't any different from crime you can find in your own country.

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Savoots
03/08/23 8:17:51 PM
#144:


I remember reading a story about a whole bus full of students that went missing suddenly in Mexico.

Did they ever find out what happened?

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Zikten
03/08/23 8:18:49 PM
#145:


Savoots posted...
I remember reading a story about a whole bus full of students that went missing suddenly in Mexico.

Did they ever find out what happened?
I think they were found dead. If its the case I'm thinking of. Cartels attacked them
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A_Good_Boy
03/08/23 8:20:34 PM
#146:


Mr_hulk88 posted...
Do you refer to the US as "a dangerous country" though?

My only issue is the idea on this thread that Mexico as a whole is unsafe, when you're going by isolated situations or places that aren't any different from crime you can find in your own country.
If someone were to visit my city or other surrounding areas I'd definitely advise them of places to stay clear from and to avoid interactions with police as much as possible.

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Mr_hulk88
03/08/23 8:24:38 PM
#147:


Savoots posted...
I remember reading a story about a whole bus full of students that went missing suddenly in Mexico.

Did they ever find out what happened?

I remember reading a story about a mass shooting in the US, (and by "a" I mean several).

Did they ever find out what happened?
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Savoots
03/08/23 8:26:23 PM
#148:


Mr_hulk88 posted...
I remember reading a story about a mass shooting in the US, (and by "a" I mean several).

Did they ever find out what happened?

Typically the shooter either gets killed or taken into custody.

Now, the bus full of students, did the perp get taken into custody or killed?

Are you just gonna deflect the question with another question?

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ShineboxPhil
03/08/23 8:30:02 PM
#149:


There's a guy named Disturbed Reality on youtube who does weekly videos every Friday that explains the cartel situation in Mexico.

Basically everything went to hell after Miguel Felix got arrested and and their federation of cartels splintered.

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Mr_hulk88
03/08/23 8:36:24 PM
#150:


Savoots posted...
Are you just gonna deflect the question with another question?

No. But this is certainly a good way of making me. Randome passive aggressiveness.

I didn't deflect any question. You are the ones concerned with crimes, and I just pointed out that you have those as well.

Now, the bus full of students, did the perp get taken into custody or killed?

I have no idea, google exists though.

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