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This is actually gonna hit 5 hundo lmao

Wow

Gamers were such a mistake. Give it 10 years and we'll have elitists love that some game they like has no volume control and get mad that some people who played it and liked it think they are entitled to adjusting the volume. "Most games have volume control. This game isn't most games. Don't play it and complain and try to take the game away from its community because you're selfish. If I designed the next game, I would make it so quiet that you can barely hear anything AND I'd get rid of subtitles! Entitled babies want every game to cater to their whims. They want 100% of games to be carbon copies instead of the current 99.9%"

I don't think the 'God of War Ragnarok characters spoil puzzles too quick' topics hit 500.

The last people Fromsoft should be listening to are ragebait game journalists and gamers who need save states to beat Super Mario.

Can we just pause this argument for a sec? I need to take a dump.

Doom_Art posted...

Can we just pause this argument for a sec? I need to take a dump.

Man up and go in your pants

I can't tell you all how inspirational this topic has been to me. 400 posts of euphoria, really.

Maybe the real pause button was the friends we made along the way.

A pause would give me time to open the butter packet.

neccis posted...

Man up and go in your pants

this is how real pros play elden ring

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/7/4/AAUXbaAAEPIu.jpg

Doom_Art posted...

this is how real pros play elden ring

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/7/4/AAUXbaAAEPIu.jpg

Lmao
Where's the iv? Mom, I'm full I'm full!

The real sin is them putting run on B/Circle while the right stick is camera

Fuck that, gotta claw hand to look and run

Gwynevere posted...

The real sin is them putting run on B/Circle while the right stick is camera

Fuck that, gotta claw hand to look and run

lol yup

The only real way to play these games is exclusively claw grip. Otherwise, you just won't be able to use all the mechanics you need to at once.

agoat posted...

*pauses topic and brake checks out of topic with gunplagirl's landlord who just rescued a pitbull from a burning building*

well done steak garnished with $200 jeans

Pause button would compromise the difficulty of Souls games, allowing you to pause right before you get hit, and then unpause and still get hit, and then heal all of the damage with 1-2 of your 20+ healing items..

this weird topic in a nutshell

"I don't get fromsoft fans how are they happy with no pause button, they'll accept anything in these games!"

"well we don't care because you can do x,x , or x"

"OMG THATS NOT THE SAME AS A PAUSE BUTTON, LOOK HOW MAD YOU GUYS ARE, FROMSOFT FANS BAD!"

"im...sorry...?"

gasgpmo posted...

Pause button would compromise the difficulty of Souls games, allowing you to pause right before you get hit, and then unpause and still get hit, and then heal all of the damage with 1-2 of your 20+ healing items..

This is why Sekiro is known as easy and completely broken... oh wait

gasgpmo posted...

Pause button would compromise the difficulty of Souls games, allowing you to pause right before you get hit, and then unpause and still get hit, and then heal all of the damage with 1-2 of your 20+ healing items..

did start spamming/photo mode spamming become regular ways to play sekiro/demon's remake among the general playerbase? or...anybody?

not sure what's up with the extreme labeling and grouping of people who don't care about something as much as you do but if it distracts you from how everything makes you miserable cool....? like our bad for not caring either way I guess?

I honestly don't care if they add a pause button. I also don't care if they don't add one...? on the grand scheme of things it doesn't matter...I enjoyed the games for this long without one and never felt inconvenienced , I'm sorry I enjoyed the games without the urge to complain about something I never thought to complain about..

FelineCyborg posted...

this weird topic in a nutshell

"I don't get fromsoft fans how are they happy with no pause button, they'll accept anything in these games!"

"well we don't care because you can do x,x , or x"

"OMG THATS NOT THE SAME AS A PAUSE BUTTON, LOOK HOW MAD YOU GUYS ARE, FROMSOFT FANS BAD!"

"im...sorry...?"

Man we have people here writing long stories about how Resident Evil 2 wasn't immersive because they could pause the game. Who are you kidding?

Punished_Blinx posted...

Man we have people here writing long stories about how Resident Evil 2 wasn't immersive because they could pause the game. Who are you kidding?

kidding who on what? if that's how they feel I can't change how they feel. what do you want from this topic dude? why do you care so much how other people play their games? like why does it actively bother you people are indifferent about this? I can't control the people who want a pause button, I can't control the people who don't want one. I just know I enjoy playing the games. they're popular games so it's not like I'm alone on that. it's not a big deal either way.

FelineCyborg posted...

this weird topic in a nutshell

"I don't get fromsoft fans how are they happy with no pause button, they'll accept anything in these games!"

"well we don't care because you can do x,x , or x"

"OMG THATS NOT THE SAME AS A PAUSE BUTTON, LOOK HOW MAD YOU GUYS ARE, FROMSOFT FANS BAD!"

"im...sorry...?"

i'm not gonna read the entire thread but are the people responding this way responding to indifferent fans or fans that are against a pause button (which isn't indifference)?

pauIie posted...

i'm not gonna read the entire thread but are the people responding this way responding to indifferent fans or fans that are against a pause button (which isn't indifference)?

from what I've seen most people don't care either way or they argue its a conscious design decision since it's been in all their games. I'm in the camp of not really caring either way because it's never bothered me before.

the people who are arguing for a pause button act like they're unable to ever play an online game with the constant barrage of bowel movements and phone calls they are getting during their gaming moments with the theoreticals they are coming up with. I guess with this aging demographic they can't sit still for 20 or 30 minutes without getting a call from a Dr appointment check up or having some incontinence or something I don't know. it seems weird to make this much of a big deal about it though to me.
they are basically making a mountain of a molehill pretty much and want to make the other side of people who are politely indifferent seem like bad people . they're acting like trolls, I'm just going to put it bluntly. they want opposition against the concept because than they can continue their weird little shtick to make this a super duper important issue that people somehow deserved to be mocked for

so basically it just seems like an attempt to antagonize people over something that doesn't matter at all even in the context of this little microcosm of gfaqs of caring about things that don't matter. furthermore is weird how they make blanket statements and group everybody who doesn't care into a certain group when practically everybody played elden ring last year...it's not even a niche fanbase anymore

FelineCyborg posted...

this weird topic in a nutshell

"I don't get fromsoft fans how are they happy with no pause button, they'll accept anything in these games!"

"well we don't care because you can do x,x , or x"

"OMG THATS NOT THE SAME AS A PAUSE BUTTON, LOOK HOW MAD YOU GUYS ARE, FROMSOFT FANS BAD!"

"im...sorry...?"

can you quote where exactly this actually happened in this thread or did you just make this up

FelineCyborg posted...

kidding who on what? if that's how they feel I can't change how they feel. what do you want from this topic dude? why do you care so much how other people play their games? like why does it actively bother you people are indifferent about this? I can't control the people who want a pause button, I can't control the people who don't want one. I just know I enjoy playing the games. they're popular games so it's not like I'm alone on that. it's not a big deal either way.

I don't care. I'm just pointing out your strawman post doesn't summarise this topic at all.

hockeybub89 posted...

This is why Sekiro is known as easy and completely broken... oh wait

pauIie posted...

did start spamming/photo mode spamming become regular ways to play sekiro/demon's remake among the general playerbase? or...anybody? or any other tough game that has pause?

I think it's really funny how neither of you understood my post.

Punished_Blinx posted...

I don't care. I'm just pointing out your strawman post doesn't summarise this topic at all.

it's literally on the first page of posts. all the posts on the first page were people giving explanation how the game intends for you to pause and then they were replied to as being "too defensive" when they were literally just explaining how the game mechanics work. they weren't defending anything, they were just explaining how to pause in elden ring. the only side I see being hostile in this topic are the people arguing for a pause button. the other side is just saying how we pause when we play the game. that's literally the first couple of replies. one of the replies even specifically asked which fromsoft fans even care that much?

Not sure if it has been covered but the reason Sekiro has a pause button is the same reason the other Souls games don't. The nature of how multiplayer works (Sekiro has no multiplayer). You need to exit the game to pause for that reason.

ssjevot posted...

Not sure if it has been covered but the reason Sekiro has a pause button is the same reason the other Souls games don't. The nature of how multiplayer works (Sekiro has no multiplayer). You need to exit the game to pause for that reason.

yea and I know somebody is going to call me "too defensive" but this was brought up on the first page too, how do the people who think it's a crazy big deal handle all the other online games where you can't pause? the games that require more attention for a longer amount of time than fromsoft games where you can't pause....are we just ignoring those and picking on fromsoft games....? it's just a weird stance to focus this much on one specific franchise for such a small thing and call people defensive when we just don't understand what the big deal is

I overall get it in the Dark Souls games. There's the balance of the humanity and hollow stuff where you can be invaded any time you open yourself yo summoning.

But that isn't in Elden Ring. I didn't invade or get invaded at all. It's a lot simpler. You almost have to go out of your way to actually play online. The online features for me weren't anymore advanced than what I got in ZombiU. Just messages and ghosts. No reason I shouldn't be able to pause when it was completely single player for me. This isn't Destiny where people are always coming in and out of your game. It isn't Dark Souls with the risk/reward stuff either since you always have access to summoning ashes.

FelineCyborg posted...

from what I've seen most people don't care either way or they argue its a conscious design decision since it's been in all their games. I'm in the camp of not really caring either way because it's never bothered me before.

the people who are arguing for a pause button act like they're unable to ever play an online game with the constant barrage of bowel movements and phone calls they are getting during their gaming moments with the theoreticals they are coming up with. I guess with this aging demographic they can't sit still for 20 or 30 minutes without getting a call from a Dr appointment check up or having some incontinence or something I don't know. it seems weird to make this much of a big deal about it though to me.
they are basically making a mountain of a molehill pretty much and want to make the other side of people who are politely indifferent seem like bad people .

so basically it just seems like an attempt to antagonize people over something that doesn't matter at all even in the context of this little microcosm of gfaqs of caring about things that don't matter. furthermore is weird how they make blanket statements and group everybody who doesn't care into a certain group when practically everybody played elden ring last year...it's not even a niche fanbase anymore

yeah the antagonizing happens to and from every side of the from software experience. my least favorite part of being a fan.

not sure why you're calling urgent pause reasons theoretical, tho. they happen? i've had countless urgent bathroom situations while gaming. plenty of phone calls that i wanted to answer. knocks at the door. people walking back forth in front the tv at the wrong time. my wife has caused many deaths by walking in front of the tv at the wrong time. i don't have kids, but with kids, i imagine a LOT of stuff is urgent. calling it theoretical is like saying the stuff that happens to people doesn't happen to them lol.

gasgpmo posted...

I think it's really funny how neither of you understood my post.

explain it. because i'm responding by doubting people are going to play the way you're suggesting. i didn't participate in the sekiro or demon's remake discourse. was this a thing? how widespread was it?

pauIie posted...

was this a thing? how widespread was it?

No, I was joking. Pausing and then unpausing isn't going to do anything. If you have enough time to press pause in the middle of combat, you have enough time to press the roll button. And even if you do get hit, you have 20+ healing items in most/all of the games. Souls games are easy. Adding a pause button won't make a difference. Add a hard mode instead.

gasgpmo posted...

No, I was joking. Pausing and then unpausing isn't going to do anything. If you have enough time to press pause in the middle of combat, you have enough time to press the roll button. And even if you do get hit, you have 20+ healing items in most/all of the games. Souls games are easy. Adding a pause button won't make a difference. Add a hard mode instead.

lol ahh okay i'm dumb lol. i mean i've seen people use that reason seriously before, but i got got.

ssjevot posted...

Not sure if it has been covered but the reason Sekiro has a pause button is the same reason the other Souls games don't. The nature of how multiplayer works (Sekiro has no multiplayer). You need to exit the game to pause for that reason.

It has been covered and been proven false

Kloe_Rinz posted...

It has been covered and been proven false

Where? Online games usually do not allow pausing for obvious reasons.

ssjevot posted...

Where? Online games usually do not allow pausing for obvious reasons.

What online games have you played? Its trivial to do for from games in 99% of cases

ssjevot posted...

Where? Online games usually do not allow pausing for obvious reasons.

can you play the game offline?

Every game should have rpg elements, you don't see me bitching

PSO didnt allow pausing offline.

Kloe_Rinz posted...

What online games have you played? Its trivial to do for from games in 99% of cases

I was playing FFXIV concurrently with Elden Ring. It doesn't let you pause. Only other online games I play are fighting games, and you can't pause when playing online. I used to PvP a lot in DS2 and I can't imagine how annoying being able to pause would be. I would probably have dudes pausing on me after I invaded just to troll.

ssjevot posted...

I was playing FFXIV concurrently with Elden Ring. It doesn't let you pause. Only other online games I play are fighting games, and you can't pause when playing online. I used to PvP a lot in DS2 and I can't imagine how annoying being able to pause would be. I would probably have dudes pausing on me after I invaded just to troll.

first of all

when not invading or being invaded, just allow pausing. this is trivial
when paused, eject them from whatever queue there is and put them back in once the game in unpaused

then after invading or being invaded there are 2 acceptable options

1. no pause
2. allow a 60 second pause after which the other player can unpause

this has already been implemented in other online games effectively, and theres been no convincing argument itt for why its not possible in From games

FF14 is different because its not 1-2 players, but thousands

Kloe_Rinz posted...

first of all

when not invading or being invaded, just allow pausing. this is trivial
when paused, eject them from whatever queue there is and put them back in once the game in unpaused

then after invading or being invaded there are 2 acceptable options

1. no pause
2. allow a 60 second pause after which the other player can unpause
this has already been implemented in other online games effectively, and theres been no convincing argument itt for why its not possible in From games

No one is saying it's impossible.

You know what it actually is, though? Unneeded, and to say otherwise would be denying the reality of how successful these games are (particularly Elden Ring). If the lack of a pause button was actually the problem you pretend that it is, these games wouldn't be successful.

by the way, congrats on the 500, TC, i don't think i've seen you get one before

Ribbet

^what?

MarkingMark posted...

^what?

You heard them! Or I guess read them!

Not being serious if not clear

Doesnt make a lot of sense to me to be pointing out how small of a deal a pause button would be, but still being this upset about it not being there.

Kloe_Rinz posted...

first of all

when not invading or being invaded, just allow pausing. this is trivial
when paused, eject them from whatever queue there is and put them back in once the game in unpaused

then after invading or being invaded there are 2 acceptable options

1. no pause
2. allow a 60 second pause after which the other player can unpause
this has already been implemented in other online games effectively, and theres been no convincing argument itt for why its not possible in From games

FF14 is different because its not 1-2 players, but thousands

Sure something like that could be done, but I think that 2nd option is very much unfeasible, because it's not 1-2 players, it's 1-4, and having everyone able to pause with 4 people will just be annoying guaranteed, so I think only the no pause after invasions start makes sense. The que resetting though could cause some issues. I am not sure how much of an issue, but I don't think it's as simple as saying there would be no problems.

What's everyone's thoughts about immersive horror games and pause buttons? I think those not having a pause button to build tension would make sense

All I know is I hope I never see another criticism of a design choice in a video game ever again.

I mean, developers do what they want and shouldn't cater to players, who are clearly miserable if they have criticisms of the video games they play, instead of just accepting that every game is special and made intentionally in a special way.

Clearly I hate Rockstar's art (despite liking every game) and should stop endlessly complaining about "tap to sprint" being in every one of their open-world games. If I am going to play their games, I need to accept that they don't sprint like every other game. It's not a flaw if it's on purpose and hasn't changed in 20+ years.