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SenlinDescends
02/22/23 10:55:42 AM
#151:


Tmaster148 posted...
All you're saying is that the only extent you care about not putting money into the pocket of "bad" people is through a single game purchase. Which is just another way of saying you don't actually care and are using a movement to justify harassment.
Mmk kid, you're done here

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gmanthebest
02/22/23 10:57:41 AM
#152:


SenlinDescends posted...
Mmk kid, you're done here
"I don't have a rebuttal, but I'm too immature to admit it."

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bsp77
02/22/23 11:00:34 AM
#153:


bsp77 posted...
Buying from Nintendo is a bad, harmful choice. As is Amazon. As is Apple. As is Chick-fil-A (which I avoid but don't judge others). As is using Twitter. Etc. Etc.
Happy this put him in his place. My work is done here.

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SenlinDescends
02/22/23 11:04:21 AM
#154:


bsp77 posted...
Happy this put him in his place. My work is done here.
Lol you did nothing of the sort kid

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ROOTFayth
02/22/23 11:05:28 AM
#155:


SenlinDescends posted...
Lol you did nothing of the sort kid
"kid"

he's like 45 yrs old or something lol
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gmanthebest
02/22/23 11:10:27 AM
#157:


Why is the most immature person here calling everyone else kid?

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SenlinDescends
02/22/23 11:11:24 AM
#158:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

Playing is fine, but you should judge them if they buy it new. That's the only part of this that matters.

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Tmaster148
02/22/23 11:12:35 AM
#159:


gmanthebest posted...
Why is the most immature person here calling everyone else kid?

projection generally

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ROOTFayth
02/22/23 11:14:11 AM
#160:


gmanthebest posted...
Why is the most immature person here calling everyone else kid?
because if he was he wouldn't be calling anyone else kid :D
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bsp77
02/22/23 11:14:16 AM
#161:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

That's cool. Choosing that as the line to not cross seems arbitrary to me. However, my not going to Chick-fil-A is also arbitrary. That is my point. All these lines to not cross are somewhat arbitrary and therefore judging others for not choosing the same exact lines is hypocritical.

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bsp77
02/22/23 11:15:22 AM
#162:


ROOTFayth posted...
"kid"

he's like 45 yrs old or something lol
Cheers, mate

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Doom_Art
02/22/23 11:18:55 AM
#163:


TIL it's okay to give money to bad people if they make a nice phone, a good chicken sandwich, run a social media site, or have a convenient shipping system

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SenlinDescends
02/22/23 11:27:18 AM
#165:


Doom_Art posted...
TIL it's okay to give money to bad people if they make a nice phone, a good chicken sandwich, run a social media site, or have a convenient shipping system
I dont buy from apple, don't use Twitter, have never eaten chick fila, and only use Amazon when I can't avoid it. Your argument doesn't hold up like you think it does.

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Questionmarktarius
02/22/23 11:30:09 AM
#166:


Doom_Art posted...
TIL it's okay to give money to bad people if they make a nice phone, a good chicken sandwich, run a social media site, or have a convenient shipping system
you forgot a big one:

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Prestoff
02/22/23 11:38:41 AM
#167:


Doom_Art posted...
TIL it's okay to give money to bad people if they make a nice phone, a good chicken sandwich, run a social media site, or have a convenient shipping system

I mean that's literally the "no ethical consumption under capitalism" thing comes from. I know people try to counter this with "it doesn't apply to non-essential items like video games", but unless you're a buddist monk living in the mountains there's going to be a "non-essential item" you have that was also created from the corruptions of capitalism. We all pick and choose our battles, which is why shaming/guilting others for not following the same path is dumb. You're going to be no better than those annoying as fuck Christians that love to preach but don't follow through with all the crap they say. Sometimes it's better to know when to know your battles and when to shut up.

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bsp77
02/22/23 11:42:48 AM
#168:


Prestoff posted...
I mean that's literally the "no ethical consumption under capitalism" thing comes from. I know people try to counter this with "it doesn't apply to non-essential items like video games", but unless you're a buddist monk living in the mountains there's going to be a "non-essential item" you have that was also created from the corruptions of capitalism. We all pick and choose our battles, which is why shaming/guilting others for not following the same path is dumb. You're going to be no better than those annoying as fuck Christians that love to preach but don't follow through with all the crap they say. Sometimes it's better to know when to know your battles and when to shut up.
Exactly. We are basically saying the same thing.

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IShall_Run_Amok
02/22/23 11:44:46 AM
#169:


Prestoff posted...
I mean that's literally the "no ethical consumption under capitalism" thing comes from.
No it isn't. It exists so people who are against capitalism don't feel shitty and kill themselves due to denying themselves basic needs, it's not so people who support capitalism can make excuses for buying a baby game. Check that cowardly bullshit. You wanna buy a video game and don't care about the boycott, own up to it.

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Prestoff
02/22/23 12:21:01 PM
#170:


IShall_Run_Amok posted...
No it isn't. It exists so people who are against capitalism don't feel shitty and kill themselves due to denying themselves basic needs, it's not so people who support capitalism can make excuses for buying a baby game. Check that cowardly bullshit. You wanna buy a video game and don't care about the boycott, own up to it.

You can buy your grocery from farmer's market and you can sew your own clothes or buy it from stores that don't rely on sweatshops. The reason most of us don't do that shit because it's incovenient and expensive. That's what these big mega corps make our lives easier from the suffering of others.

Also hilarious take from someone who's on a message board about video games. You know, when I asked the same thing about Genshin Impact and how giving money to that game would fund the CCP and Nintendo regarding Saudi Arabia, I also hear excuses because people want to support both of these things. But to them, they're not excuses they're justifications. At the end of the day, we pick and choose our battles whether you like it or not.

Also I support the rights of others to boycott whatever they want, but I also think boycotts can never actually amount of anything substantial on a national level. Another example of boycotts flipping on their own head was when the conservatives try to boycott Nike because of Colin Kaepernick, only for Nike to report bigger revenue that year. However, they can work locally (I've seen it with my own eyes at my old hometown.). Big boycotts only serve 2 purposes, to give awareness on the morality of the purchase and for self-moral reasons (like I will never play any game with paid gacha and loot boxes). Looking for any victories from a boycott is otherwise fruitless and just sets you up for dissapointment. I rather use my energy to help the trans community through legislature like voting or donating money for pro-trans organizations.

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IShall_Run_Amok
02/22/23 12:23:04 PM
#171:


Prestoff posted...
You can buy your grocery from farmer's market and you can sew your own clothes or buy it from stores that don't rely on sweatshops.

IShall_Run_Amok posted...
You wanna buy a video game and don't care about the boycott, own up to it.


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Blade_Trinity
02/22/23 12:25:10 PM
#172:


RKO_OrtonBoi posted...
Buying, playing, or watching Hogwarts Legacy is basically harming real people out in the world. All Trans people tell you to not do any of that and people who do that show they never cared about the LGBT in the first place.

I'll gladly break off friendships and disown family if I catch them even thinking about playing it. If someone tells you not to drink bleach, you wouldn't do it. This is the same here.
LMAO

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Tmaster148
02/22/23 12:28:53 PM
#173:


Blade_Trinity posted...
LMAO

At least he doesn't have to worry about disowning friends over the game.

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Prestoff
02/22/23 12:34:35 PM
#174:


bsp77 posted...
Exactly. We are basically saying the same thing.

Great minds think alike.

Also I'm hoping your marriage is doing well.

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bsp77
02/22/23 12:46:53 PM
#175:


Prestoff posted...
Great minds think alike.

Also I'm hoping your marriage is doing well.
Thanks! But just engagement so far

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VGAddict90
02/22/23 12:52:35 PM
#176:


I've never really understood why Harry Potter is so popular. I mean, they're OK books, but there are people who act like they're the pinnacle of literature.
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SuperVegitoFAN
02/22/23 1:00:00 PM
#177:


VGAddict90 posted...
I've never really understood why Harry Potter is so popular. I mean, they're OK books, but there are people who act like they're the pinnacle of literature.
Pretty sure most people interested in this game grew up with the franchise.

I know i did. Children arent as picky as adults.

...Furthermore, aside from the 2 LEGO games, the last truly "GREAT" HP game was, imo, the various games covering the third movie/book... and those released 19 years ago.

If youve been starved for a great game in the franchise since, no wonder Hogwarts legacy looks amazing.

So id say its a bit of a combination of nostalgia and content starvation.

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SenlinDescends
02/22/23 1:04:14 PM
#178:


bsp77 posted...
Thanks! But just engagement so far
Good luck on everything, wedding planning was stressful af but so worth it in the end

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dancing_cactuar
02/22/23 1:09:25 PM
#179:


desert_santa posted...
If you are simply going to assume things, I will guess you are one of those people that always have to be right.
That's literally their gimmick, and when they get sent to the corner in purgatory for half a year because of a really shit post, they go blame everyone besides themselves because heaven forbid a bad post was made.

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bsp77
02/22/23 1:42:25 PM
#180:


SenlinDescends posted...
Good luck on everything, wedding planning was stressful af but so worth it in the end
I appreciate it. Been married before - 4 daughters

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SenlinDescends
02/22/23 1:45:34 PM
#181:


bsp77 posted...
I appreciate it. Been married before - 4 daughters
Oh so you know then lol. Still, best of luck.

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Prestoff
02/22/23 1:47:53 PM
#182:


bsp77 posted...
Thanks! But just engagement so far

That's a fucking fail on my end lol.

Honestly though, best wishes. Glad you came back on the board.

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bsp77
02/22/23 1:52:04 PM
#183:


Prestoff posted...
That's a fucking fail on my end lol.
Yeah, big fail. How dare you not remember everything about me

Honestly though, best wishes. Glad you came back on the board.
Thanks! I just have to not get too worked up over stupid stuff. Been better.

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ROOTFayth
02/22/23 1:56:44 PM
#184:


I remember, you got divorced, then you were a mega hoe for a few years, now you're over that phase and settling again :D
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Trumble
02/22/23 1:58:10 PM
#185:


If it weren't for the controversy, I'd probably never have known about the game beyond maybe "a game with that name that's vaguely HP-related" exists.

In terms of whether I'll buy it... It's not enough of interest to me to buy now, but when it's cheaper in a year or so, maybe.

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JJrooot
02/22/23 1:58:21 PM
#186:


The controversies are half baked at best.

After playing for 6 hours I've seen a transgender character and a lesbian...in 1875.

If this game wasn't about wizards and magic, I'd say that would be unrealistic... but apparently the Harry Potter universe is the most diverse universe ever created... and yet the far left libs are still pissed off about it because the billionaire creater disagrees with them on some things.

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Trumble
02/22/23 1:59:09 PM
#187:


JJrooot posted...
The controversies are half baked at best.

After playing for 6 hours I've seen a transgender character and a lesbian...in 1875.

If this game wasn't about wizards and magic, I'd say that would be unrealistic... but apparently the Harry Potter universe is the most diverse universe ever created... and yet the far left libs are still pissed off about it because the billionaire creater disagrees with them on some things.
Political extremists, regardless of side, have never been the smartest crowd.

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bsp77
02/22/23 2:01:19 PM
#188:


ROOTFayth posted...
I remember, you got divorced, then you were a mega hoe for a few years, now you're over that phase and settling again :D
Pretty much lol

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SuperVegitoFAN
02/22/23 2:07:19 PM
#189:


Trumble posted...
Political extremists, regardless of side, have never been the smartest crowd.
Has any Extremists? Isnt that kind of the point?

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Jagr_68
02/22/23 2:24:23 PM
#190:


don't care but it's been amusing seeing both sides of the coin reveal how full of shit they are and/or how terribly overzealous they've been over a stupid video game.

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moog
02/22/23 2:25:46 PM
#191:


It continues to provide the examples that Twitter and tumblr are cesspools of humanity.

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IShall_Run_Amok
02/22/23 2:33:40 PM
#192:


Trumble posted...
Political extremists, regardless of side, have never been the smartest crowd.
The person you're responding to doesn't even half understand the controversy. I'd say the "extremists" on "both sides" are way smarter, considering they actually know what the issue is. This is just like every other discussion about politics on a gaming board: people who aren't paying attention will always have the most half assed and uninformed views and think they're the smartest goddamn precious pretty princess in the room.

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ZMythos
02/22/23 2:42:16 PM
#193:


Lotta "both sides" people stroking themselves off ITT.

Rowling has some pretty shitty takes and there are people who don't want to see her validated or rewarded for expressing them. That's it. That's the controversy. Nothing extremist about it.

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Tmaster148
02/22/23 2:45:21 PM
#194:


ZMythos posted...
Lotta "both sides" people stroking themselves off ITT.

Rowling has some pretty shitty takes and there are people who don't want to see her validated or rewarded for expressing them. That's it. That's the controversy. Nothing extremist about it.

And a subsection of those people are going out of their way to harass other people over it. That makes those individual extremists. Assuming they actually care about the movement and not just latching on to something to justify harassing people.

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ThanksUglyGod
02/22/23 2:52:08 PM
#195:


Tmaster148 posted...
And a subsection of those people are going out of their way to harass other people over it. That makes those individual extremists. Assuming they actually care about the movement and not just latching on to something to justify harassing people.
A very, very, very tiny subsection.
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Tmaster148
02/22/23 2:59:12 PM
#196:


ThanksUglyGod posted...
A very, very, very tiny subsection.

The size doesn't matter. It's an extremists subsection and they are going to be the loudest voices heard.

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IShall_Run_Amok
02/22/23 3:01:34 PM
#197:


ZMythos posted...
Lotta "both sides" people stroking themselves off ITT.

Rowling has some pretty shitty takes and there are people who don't want to see her validated or rewarded for expressing them. That's it. That's the controversy. Nothing extremist about it.
But you have to understand, I have no stake in the matter and yet I am clearly correct. Also a cartoon e-celebrity pretended to cry, the game has a trans character, and have you considered the iPhone?

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ZMythos
02/22/23 3:05:53 PM
#198:


Tmaster148 posted...
The size doesn't matter. It's an extremists subsection and they are going to be the loudest voices heard.
And therefore the position they side with is wrong?


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Tmaster148
02/22/23 3:07:32 PM
#199:


ZMythos posted...
And therefore the position they side with is wrong?

If you want to side with extremists who will drown out reasonable actions and become hostile to anyone they deem unworthy, go ahead.

You can have a good position and still go about it a bad way and no one should tolerate extremist behavior.

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ZMythos
02/22/23 3:10:20 PM
#200:


Tmaster148 posted...
If you want to side with extremists who will drown out reasonable actions and become hostile to anyone they deem unworthy, go ahead.

You can have a good position and still go about it a bad way and no one should tolerate extremist behavior.
MLK Jr. was labeled an extremist. Was he wrong?

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