Board 8 > Paper Mario Mafia Topic 10 - Thinner Mario, Bigger Adventure!

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When the people of town awoke the next morning, they found a young koopa troopa lying on the ground. It seems the Koopa Troop got him. On his shell, they spotted a name tag that read:

Hi, my name is Goombario!

ctes has died!

A blue koopa troopa with a taste for adventure, you decide to join Mario on his when he retrieves your shell after it was stolen by some Fuzzies. You dream is to become an archaeologist like your idol, Kolorado. Mario can use you to to flip switches, retrieve items, and attack enemies, but it doesnt seem like that will come in handy this time around. Still, you are an important ally for our heroes. If its any consolation, you are my favorite party member!

You are Kooper, TOWN Vanilla. Aside from your vote, you have no powers.

You win when all threats to TOWN have been eliminated.

Alive (7):
Dumey
Han
Hb
Kirby
Peaf
Plum
Ulti

Shredded:
LD1: Isquen Eldstar, TOWN Vanilla
KN1: Lea Bombette, TOWN Bomb
KN1: SBell - Koopa Bros., KOOPA TROOP Ninjas
LD2: Sultan Mario, TOWN Hero
KN2: death Lady Bow, TOWN Doctor
KN2: Cody Muskular, TOWN Vanilla
LD3: Ben Bowser, KOOPA TROOP Bulletproof Role Scanner
KN3: JC Watt, TOWN Jack-of-all-Trades
LD4: red - Jr. Troopa, KOOPA TROOP Persistent Little Shit
KN4: ctes Kooper, TOWN Vanilla

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch. Day ends at 9:00 P.M. Eastern (48 hours from now).

(deleted post on the previous page was me. I decided to start day from a new page.)

Rest in peace, Ctes. You were the real mvp.

Nah, I've got no excuse. I owe Han a formal apology; he was completely right about Red and I got bamboozled.

... But holy shit Ctes was vanilla?! I got roleblocked so does that mean...

Han with the clutch play? Did you get a scan of any kind?

Ulti trying to immediately shift the conversation off of Kirby vs Dummey

Not surprised at all

UltimaterializerX posted...

Because as Ive said multiple times, I think theyre both town.

And Plum, my name is Pitt and youre not talking your way out of this shit. Ive had you and Red pegged since day 2.

This is absolutely impossible if you thought at all

Consider me very confused. Technically this puts scum Han back on the table since it seems like the proposed neighborizer and scan were both on his end?

But the play to kill Red there makes absolutely zero sense. Like even less than traditional WIFOM territory, because why would you kill your extra kill for no reason.

So with Han Town, I have to continue down my original path!

##Vote: Kirby

I am here to fuck you upon Ulti's request.

I was really hoping Ctes was BP. If he was, and there is one Scum left, it'd have been possible for us to win without Town ever learning the truth.

Alas.

UltimaterializerX posted...

So which is scum then, Plum?

Dumey my man

I said yesterday that Kirby trying hard to save Red might have been because Roleblocker dying would expose Kirby. But Kirby trying to save an Assassin shot makes just as much sense. Kirby was one of the primary people trying to write a narrative on "how long to MYLO", and them having an extra shot in their pocket paints the picture as to why.

Means, Motive, Opportunity. Kirby is scum.

C'mon Plum. Tell me what I've done that's actually scummy, while ignoring all the scummy stuff Kirby has done. Don't just rely on PoE. We have actual play we can analyze.

EDumey posted...

C'mon Plum. Tell me what I've done that's actually scummy, while ignoring all the scummy stuff Kirby has done. Don't just rely on PoE. We have actual play we can analyze.

And what scummy stuff would that be? Riding Ben?

I give you respect Ulti for sticking to your guns

masterplum posted...

And what scummy stuff would that be? Riding Ben?

How about trying to veer the lynch off of the Assassin to force a mislynch, where if Han and Ctes didn't kill Red, that probably would have won them the game?

UltimaterializerX posted...

Okay so why are they both still alive, Plum? One should have killed the other by now. The entire time this has read like town/town being set up as an easy mislynch for scum to win on. The game makes sense if you look outside these two and flip the chessboard over. Scum has every reason to leave them both alive.

At what point would you have killed one?

How the fuck did Han and Ctes pull that off?

Anyway from here it seems pretty simple. One of Plum and Ulti, and one of Kirby and Dumey.

Oh HB, you're still in the Plum/Ulti/HB pile too, don't worry.

Hbthebattle posted...

How the fuck did Han and Ctes pull that off?

It was tough, but once Ctes was "on-board", it just became making a slant-truth that was buyable enough to get us to the point where Scum had to commit to killing him, which then confirms us anyway.

Anyway, I can't wait to see Scumboard when it was revealed that Ctes was just vanilla.

And Peaf when he checks in.

Everybody was active for 30 minutes then I come back and...

Hi Han.

Where do you think you're at on Ulti's train of thought? Is there a large enough chance that Kirby and I are both town that you think it's worth investigating Ult/Plum/HB instead? Or rather resolve Kirby/Me?

I feel like I've already laid out my case on Kirby, so if you wanted to explore the other options, I'd understand.

When you weren't the one Han wanted to talk to. Sadge.

UltimaterializerX posted...

Yeah this is a scum thought process. It HAS to be one of these two players.

explain exactly how both kirby and dumey could be telling the truth

UltimaterializerX posted...

Post 120.

there are a few things wrong with that explanation. One, it doesn't resolve Dumey surviving Kirby's night action - you know, the entire reason he's on him? Two, even if it's scum/town, scum still isnt going to resolve that for as long as they're capable of doing so. Especially while they have a roleblocker alive, which we know they do.

Like, think about it for more than a second. If Kirby is the scum in the pair, why he can't kill Dumey is obvious. If Dumey is the scum in the pair, Kirby's been telling the truth about getting RB'd every day.

UltimaterializerX posted...

You are in no way confirmed town. You are only a confirmed neighbor.

I'm literally not a neighbor, Ulti.

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Anyway, I can't wait to see Scumboard when it was revealed that Ctes was just vanilla.

And Peaf when he checks in.

Yes, I am quite confused and am fighting the urge to open more conspiracy theories.

Do share the truth that you alluded to in #111, please.

And sorry Dumey, I got busy with Tales

Long day of delayed flights, conference shmoozing, and pretending to be interested in things I am not.

Here I can be free.

Han is scum.

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Day 1 votals:
Isquen [4] (Sultan), EDumey, (Han), (Lea), Kirby, Lea, Han
Peaf [3] - (Han), Ben, (Han), (Plum), Death, red
Lea [2] (Kirby), Sbell, JC
Plum [2] Peaf, (Han), Sultan
Han [1] - Isquen, (JC), (Sultan)
Sultan [1] - (Plum), Hb, (Isquen)
Dumey [0] - (Peaf), (Lea)
Ben [0] - (Peaf), (Lea), (Death)
Red [0] (JC)
Kirby [0] - (Han), (Lea), (Sultan), (Peaf)
Hb [0] - (Sultan)
Sbell [0] - (Plum)

Day 2 votals:
Sultan [4] (Plum), (Ulti), (Ulti), Plum, Hb, Peaf, red
Kirby [2] - (Dumey), Ben, Sultan
Dumey [2] - (Ulti), Han, Kirby
Han [2] - JC, (Ulti), Ulti
JC [1] (Han), (Peaf), ctes
Hb [1] - Death, (Sultan)
ctes [1] - Dumey
Plum [0] - (Ulti)
Ben [0] - (Sultan), (Kirby), (Plum), (Ulti), (Dumey)
Ulti [0] - (Sultan)
Death [0] - (Peaf), (Dumey)

T4p218 - Ben likes han "more". But I'm not sure he ever disliked han, and Han followed his lead to vote me day 1. This sounds like an easy way for scumben to continue to divert suspicion from Han. Lest we forget, han was at one point tied with me for the vote leader.

Han pushed back against my Ben math because he knew it was wrong. As scum.

*squints*

I literally scanned a Scum extra kill and passed it on so that we lynched him yesterday.

Very curious how you got ctes to go along with it.

At least you admitted that the jc thing was a lie. The words that you put into his mouth did not align to jc whatsoever. You've got to work on your impressions.

Zzz

You have to work on your logic because I'm the most confirmed Town in the game rn lol

We can agree to disagree... if you're alive in final 3.

Ulti or Dumey, who we thinking first? My money is on dumdumdumdumdumdum

HanOfTheNekos posted...

*squints*

I literally scanned a Scum extra kill and passed it on so that we lynched him yesterday.

How'd you convince Ctes to play along? How'd you know for a fact that Red was Jr. Koopa
I think you need to give us your full claim.

I'm staying mum on my thoughts for now to see what people say first.

Hbthebattle posted...

How'd you convince Ctes to play along? How'd you know for a fact that Red was Jr. Koopa
I think you need to give us your full claim.

Is it not obvious at this point?

I knew Ctes was Kooper and hinted it to him when I said the whole shell game line. He correctly interpreted it as a hint and after that, he just played along because he knew what I was doing.

And I'm glad he did, because it got us one more scan.