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Alucard188 02/17/23 11:41:52 AM #1:	https://twitter.com/RPGSite/status/1626590805833154562?t=VvJp0P0teyw2lKkoXanDmw&s=19 When is the release date on this? I've got superior versions of the game I can play right now. Thanks, but no thanks, Bamco. --- Face it Cloud is a gaming icon and has appered in lots of games while mario has only appeared in 2 games sunshine and 64~xSlashbomBx <cite>Alucard188 posted [p:971629032] in Tales of S... [t:80351403]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/RPGSite/status/1626590805833154562?t=VvJp0P0teyw2lKkoXanDmw&s=19When is the release date on this? I've got superior versions of the game I can play right now. Thanks, but no thanks, Bamco.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NoxObscuras 02/17/23 11:43:06 AM #2:	Yeah I looked over some of the reviews yesterday. Sounds like a lazy port. Shame Oh and the release date is today --- PSN - NoxObscuras Z490 \| i9-10900K \| EVGA 3080 FTW3 Ultra \| 32GB DDR4 3600 \| 4TB SSD <cite>NoxObscuras posted [p:971629052] in Tales of S... [t:80351403]...</cite> <quote>Yeah I looked over some of the reviews yesterday. Sounds like a lazy port. Shame Oh and the release date is today</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Scintillant 02/17/23 11:43:14 AM #3:	All they needed to do was put the ps3 games on steam why is it so hard --- whats cat up to <cite>Scintillant posted [p:971629057] in Tales of S... [t:80351403]...</cite> <quote>All they needed to do was put the ps3 games on steam why is it so hard </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KainWind 02/17/23 11:43:29 AM #4:	https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/gamecube/561316-tales-of-symphonia/data --- Momentai <cite>KainWind posted [p:971629062] in Tales of S... [t:80351403]...</cite> <quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/gamecube/561316-tales-of-symphonia/data</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
party_animal07 02/17/23 11:44:58 AM #5:	Fuckin a dude. I wanted this to be good so bad. I love ToS. --- https://warpzone.me/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/GRANDIA_-696x509.jpg <cite>party_animal07 posted [p:971629087] in Tales of S... [t:80351403]...</cite> <quote>Fuckin a dude. I wanted this to be good so bad. I love ToS.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VeggetaX 02/17/23 11:49:40 AM #6:	party_animal07 posted... Fuckin a dude. I wanted this to be good so bad. I love ToS. Guess you're letting the reviews dictate your decision --- Don't like it? Don't watch it. It's that simple Dictator of Nice Guys <cite>VeggetaX posted [p:971629186] in Tales of S... [t:80351403]...</cite> <quote>party_animal07 posted... </cite><quote>Fuckin a dude. I wanted this to be good so bad. I love ToS.</quote>Guess you're letting the reviews dictate your decision</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jagr_68 02/17/23 11:51:15 AM #7:	Scintillant posted... All they needed to do was put the ps3 games on steam why is it so hard The effort to pull off a 1:1 emulation was likely far too difficult to waste money on when the idea was a plain ol nostalgia grab to begin with. Should've just ported the Gamecube original even. --- New York Rangers [2004-2008] https://media.giphy.com/media/WvQHBYW0q4TuxdAg61/giphy.gif https://psnprofiles.com/Jaromiroquai68 <cite>Jagr_68 posted [p:971629224] in Tales of S... [t:80351403]...</cite> <quote>Scintillant posted... </cite><quote>All they needed to do was put the ps3 games on steam why is it so hard</quote>The effort to pull off a 1:1 emulation was likely far too difficult to waste money on when the idea was a plain ol nostalgia grab to begin with. Should've just ported the Gamecube original even.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeonTentacles 02/17/23 11:52:23 AM #8:	It's the just the PS2 port, which we already have on PC and PS3, right? --- https://imgur.com/aMaI3hj https://imgur.com/7PsdJNc https://imgur.com/eK8vZVn https://imgur.com/u2HR4nG https://imgur.com/nQGM5cZ <cite>NeonTentacles posted [p:971629246] in Tales of S... [t:80351403]...</cite> <quote>It's the just the PS2 port, which we already have on PC and PS3, right?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WrestlinFan 02/17/23 11:53:47 AM #9:	VeggetaX posted... Guess you're letting the reviews dictate your decision Technical problems aren't a matter of taste. --- Trying to burn the bridges to a culture that taught us to hate and fear and live like cogs in a machine and not like lovers, friends, and kin. <cite>WrestlinFan posted [p:971629276] in Tales of S... [t:80351403]...</cite> <quote>VeggetaX posted... </cite><quote>Guess you're letting the reviews dictate your decision</quote>Technical problems aren't a matter of taste. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
a-c-a-b 02/17/23 11:58:27 AM #10:	I wasn't planning on getting the remaster. Or at least anytime soon. I really like Tales of Symphonia but my most recent playthrough was in 2021. So it's still too soon for me to want to play it again. --- Save for your doomed future <cite>a-c-a-b posted [p:971629353] in Tales of S... [t:80351403]...</cite> <quote>I wasn't planning on getting the remaster. Or at least anytime soon.I really like Tales of Symphonia but my most recent playthrough was in 2021. So it's still too soon for me to want to play it again.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VeggetaX 02/17/23 12:03:53 PM #11:	WrestlinFan posted... Technical problems aren't a matter of taste. What's the technical issue? Slow downs? Performance? Doesn't support controller? --- Don't like it? Don't watch it. It's that simple Dictator of Nice Guys <cite>VeggetaX posted [p:971629456] in Tales of S... [t:80351403]...</cite> <quote>WrestlinFan posted... </cite><quote>Technical problems aren't a matter of taste.</quote>What's the technical issue? Slow downs? Performance? Doesn't support controller?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hayame_Zero 02/17/23 12:13:43 PM #12:	The fact that the load times going in and out of battles end up being longer than the battles themselves in the late game is hilariously sad. --- ...I think I'm done here... <cite>Hayame_Zero posted [p:971629661] in Tales of S... [t:80351403]...</cite> <quote>The fact that the load times going in and out of battles end up being longer than the battles themselves in the late game is hilariously sad.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
a-c-a-b 02/17/23 12:16:25 PM #13:	Out of curiosity I went to see how much it was on the PS4 store. $53.49 CAD Holy shit. I was thinking it would be like $20 --- Save for your doomed future <cite>a-c-a-b posted [p:971629711] in Tales of S... [t:80351403]...</cite> <quote>Out of curiosity I went to see how much it was on the PS4 store.$53.49 CADHoly shit. I was thinking it would be like $20</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gu-gohan 02/17/23 12:34:24 PM #14:	Very disappointing... Man, I wanted it to be good... --- Like: videogames, peaceful discussions, open-minded people Dislike: console wars, trolls, haters, review-bombing, bias <cite>gu-gohan posted [p:971630072] in Tales of S... [t:80351403]...</cite> <quote>Very disappointing...Man, I wanted it to be good...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Master_Bass 02/17/23 12:36:20 PM #15:	Just get the steam version. At least you can hack that one to make it 60 FPS. --- Many Bothans died to bring you this post. <cite>Master_Bass posted [p:971630113] in Tales of S... [t:80351403]...</cite> <quote>Just get the steam version. At least you can hack that one to make it 60 FPS. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bio1590 02/17/23 12:41:27 PM #16:	Frankly, this is unacceptable at this point and makes the port come off more as a cheap money grab than a celebration of Symphonias 20th Anniversary. That's literally what this Remaster has been from the start >_> --- https://i.imgur.com/bbRWLI8.gif https://i.imgur.com/A0BErSV.jpg https://i.imgur.com/S1m3po4.jpg https://i.imgur.com/7fCcfko.jpg <cite>Bio1590 posted [p:971630211] in Tales of S... [t:80351403]...</cite> <quote><quote>Frankly, this is unacceptable at this point and makes the port come off more as a cheap money grab than a celebration of Symphonias 20th Anniversary.</quote>That's literally what this Remaster has been from the start >_></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeonTentacles 02/17/23 12:41:29 PM #17:	Master_Bass posted... Just get the steam version. At least you can hack that one to make it 60 FPS. i heard the game logic gets fucked up and glitches out at 60 for that version --- https://imgur.com/aMaI3hj https://imgur.com/7PsdJNc https://imgur.com/eK8vZVn https://imgur.com/u2HR4nG https://imgur.com/nQGM5cZ <cite>NeonTentacles posted [p:971630213] in Tales of S... [t:80351403]...</cite> <quote>Master_Bass posted... </cite><quote>Just get the steam version. At least you can hack that one to make it 60 FPS.</quote>i heard the game logic gets fucked up and glitches out at 60 for that version</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJGrimReaper 02/17/23 12:42:29 PM #18:	rip pancake time --- Big Apple, 3 A.M. http://error1355.com/ce/SSJGrimReaper.html <cite>SSJGrimReaper posted [p:971630235] in Tales of S... [t:80351403]...</cite> <quote>rip pancake time</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VeggetaX 02/17/23 12:46:28 PM #19:	Hayame_Zero posted... The fact that the load times going in and out of battles end up being longer than the battles themselves in the late game is hilariously sad. That definitely is an issue. Like FF6 on PS1? --- Don't like it? Don't watch it. It's that simple Dictator of Nice Guys <cite>VeggetaX posted [p:971630299] in Tales of S... [t:80351403]...</cite> <quote>Hayame_Zero posted... </cite><quote>The fact that the load times going in and out of battles end up being longer than the battles themselves in the late game is hilariously sad.</quote>That definitely is an issue. Like FF6 on PS1?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MC_BatCommander 02/17/23 12:48:52 PM #20:	Runs at 30 fps Lmao pass --- The Legend is True! <cite>MC_BatCommander posted [p:971630346] in Tales of S... [t:80351403]...</cite> <quote>Runs at 30 fpsLmao pass</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kirbyy 02/17/23 1:07:11 PM #21:	Yikes. White statix loading screens in and out of battle does not sound good. Shame, ToS is a good game, deserves better. --- Crayons taste like purple. <cite>kirbyy posted [p:971630770] in Tales of S... [t:80351403]...</cite> <quote>Yikes. White statix loading screens in and out of battle does not sound good. Shame, ToS is a good game, deserves better.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HylianFox 02/17/23 1:13:05 PM #22:	People's obsession with 30/60fps continues to baffle me --- THIS SPACE INTENTIONALLY LEFT BLANK Do not write in this space. <cite>HylianFox posted [p:971630928] in Tales of S... [t:80351403]...</cite> <quote>People's obsession with 30/60fps continues to baffle me</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TaylorHeinicke 02/17/23 1:14:14 PM #23:	sucks to hear man. even for a fucking port nostalgia grab i was still happy to get symphonia on switch but hearing it fucking sucks technically just hurts my soul man HylianFox posted... People's obsession with 30/60fps continues to baffle me it's night and day with symphonia --- St. Louis Battlehawks (1-1) <cite>TaylorHeinicke posted [p:971630961] in Tales of S... [t:80351403]...</cite> <quote>sucks to hear man. even for a fucking port nostalgia grab i was still happy to get symphonia on switchbut hearing it fucking sucks technically just hurts my soul manHylianFox posted... </cite><quote>People's obsession with 30/60fps continues to baffle me</quote>it's night and day with symphonia</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
chrono625 02/17/23 1:16:10 PM #24:	HylianFox posted... People's obsession with 30/60fps continues to baffle me theres a clear difference in visual fidelity between 30/60. Remaster of a game released 20 years ago and not being able to get it to 60fps is completely unacceptable. --- http://i.imgur.com/Rqk1DYV.gif - Super Bowl XXI/XXV/XLII/XLVI Champions - NY Giants Eli Manning SB tracker: 2/2 Superbowls 2/2 SBMVP's <cite>chrono625 posted [p:971631005] in Tales of S... [t:80351403]...</cite> <quote>HylianFox posted... </cite><quote>People's obsession with 30/60fps continues to baffle me</quote>theres a clear difference in visual fidelity between 30/60.Remaster of a game released 20 years ago and not being able to get it to 60fps is completely unacceptable. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MC_BatCommander 02/17/23 1:17:59 PM #25:	HylianFox posted... People's obsession with 30/60fps continues to baffle me 30 fps looks shitty. --- The Legend is True! <cite>MC_BatCommander posted [p:971631049] in Tales of S... [t:80351403]...</cite> <quote>HylianFox posted... </cite><quote>People's obsession with 30/60fps continues to baffle me</quote>30 fps looks shitty. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BurmesePenguin 02/17/23 1:21:35 PM #26:	Why do people get shocked and surprised every time this happens. I remember the last time ToS was ported, even Jim Sterling made videos about how shitty a job it was. As soon as it was known it was gonna be another 30fps version port everyone should have known not to get their hopes up or waste their money. <cite>BurmesePenguin posted [p:971631124] in Tales of S... [t:80351403]...</cite> <quote>Why do people get shocked and surprised every time this happens. I remember the last time ToS was ported, even Jim Sterling made videos about how shitty a job it was. As soon as it was known it was gonna be another 30fps version port everyone should have known not to get their hopes up or waste their money. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Alucard188 02/17/23 1:28:52 PM #27:	HylianFox posted... People's obsession with 30/60fps continues to baffle me Why would you accept an obvious downgrade in an action RPG? --- Face it Cloud is a gaming icon and has appered in lots of games while mario has only appeared in 2 games sunshine and 64~xSlashbomBx <cite>Alucard188 posted [p:971631273] in Tales of S... [t:80351403]...</cite> <quote>HylianFox posted... </cite><quote>People's obsession with 30/60fps continues to baffle me</quote>Why would you accept an obvious downgrade in an action RPG? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkBuster22904 02/17/23 1:32:34 PM #28:	People seriously expected Bamco to do better after the last shitty ToS port? It's Bamco. "Doing better" isn't in their lexicon. --- Haven't had a good sig idea since 2006 <cite>DarkBuster22904 posted [p:971631336] in Tales of S... [t:80351403]...</cite> <quote>People seriously expected Bamco to do better after the last shitty ToS port?It's Bamco. "Doing better" isn't in their lexicon.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ivynn 02/17/23 1:35:59 PM #29:	Ubfortunate but expected. Bamco gonna Bamco. --- http://i.imgur.com/vDci4hD.gif <cite>Ivynn posted [p:971631417] in Tales of S... [t:80351403]...</cite> <quote>Ubfortunate but expected. Bamco gonna Bamco.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hayame_Zero 02/17/23 1:40:39 PM #30:	And this was the company that was originally working on Metroid Prime 4. Damn, did we ever get lucky. --- ...I think I'm done here... <cite>Hayame_Zero posted [p:971631523] in Tales of S... [t:80351403]...</cite> <quote>And this was the company that was originally working on Metroid Prime 4. Damn, did we ever get lucky.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeonTentacles 02/17/23 1:44:18 PM #31:	HylianFox posted... People's obsession with 30/60fps continues to baffle me I havent played Symphonia in a decade but when I played the PS3 version, it felt so wrong lol --- https://imgur.com/aMaI3hj https://imgur.com/7PsdJNc https://imgur.com/eK8vZVn https://imgur.com/u2HR4nG https://imgur.com/nQGM5cZ <cite>NeonTentacles posted [p:971631589] in Tales of S... [t:80351403]...</cite> <quote>HylianFox posted... </cite><quote>People's obsession with 30/60fps continues to baffle me</quote>I havent played Symphonia in a decade but when I played the PS3 version, it felt so wrong lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NoxObscuras 02/17/23 1:51:44 PM #32:	Hayame_Zero posted... And this was the company that was originally working on Metroid Prime 4. Damn, did we ever get lucky. Wow, well I'm glad Nintendo decided to scrap what this company had worked on lol --- PSN - NoxObscuras Z490 \| i9-10900K \| EVGA 3080 FTW3 Ultra \| 32GB DDR4 3600 \| 4TB SSD <cite>NoxObscuras posted [p:971631746] in Tales of S... [t:80351403]...</cite> <quote>Hayame_Zero posted... </cite><quote>And this was the company that was originally working on Metroid Prime 4. Damn, did we ever get lucky.</quote>Wow, well I'm glad Nintendo decided to scrap what this company had worked on lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Calwings 02/17/23 2:17:38 PM #33:	https://www.reddit.com/r/tales/comments/114idrr/psa_symphonia_remastered_and_all_the_other/ The original Gamecube version is the only version with 60fps and Bandai Namco might have lost the source code for it, so they have to use the PS2 30fps version as a base for all future ports of the game. The problem is, the game engine from that version is apparently directly tied to the game's fps, to the point where trying to change it from 30 to 60 would completely break the game. I don't think anything short of completely rebuilding the game from the ground up would ever get us a full ToS remake with 60fps, but at that point, BN would rather put those resources into a brand new Tales game instead of going through all of that trouble for a remake. The 30fps thing is unfortunately an issue that will likely never be fixed. That being said, this doesn't excuse the numerous other issues that this release is facing. Shitty loading times, fps drops below the standard 30, screen transitions missing, menus and text being messed up, a character being loaded with the wrong model too early that accidentally spoils something major later on... it's actually unbelievable how awful this port is. It's objectively the worst version of the game that's ever been released. --- https://i.imgur.com/PmF1p9q.jpg <cite>Calwings posted [p:971632223] in Tales of S... [t:80351403]...</cite> <quote>https://www.reddit.com/r/tales/comments/114idrr/psa_symphonia_remastered_and_all_the_other/The original Gamecube version is the only version with 60fps and Bandai Namco might have lost the source code for it, so they have to use the PS2 30fps version as a base for all future ports of the game. The problem is, the game engine from that version is apparently directly tied to the game's fps, to the point where trying to change it from 30 to 60 would completely break the game. I don't think anything short of completely rebuilding the game from the ground up would ever get us a full ToS remake with 60fps, but at that point, BN would rather put those resources into a brand new Tales game instead of going through all of that trouble for a remake. The 30fps thing is unfortunately an issue that will likely never be fixed.That being said, this doesn't excuse the numerous other issues that this release is facing. Shitty loading times, fps drops below the standard 30, screen transitions missing, menus and text being messed up, a character being loaded with the wrong model too early that accidentally spoils something major later on... it's actually unbelievable how awful this port is. It's objectively the worst version of the game that's ever been released.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeonTentacles 02/17/23 4:25:11 PM #34:	Calwings posted... a character being loaded with the wrong model too early that accidentally spoils something major later on... whats the context to this? >_> Spoil me --- https://imgur.com/aMaI3hj https://imgur.com/7PsdJNc https://imgur.com/eK8vZVn https://imgur.com/u2HR4nG https://imgur.com/nQGM5cZ <cite>NeonTentacles posted [p:971634724] in Tales of S... [t:80351403]...</cite> <quote>Calwings posted... </cite><quote>a character being loaded with the wrong model too early that accidentally spoils something major later on...</quote>whats the context to this? >_> Spoil me</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smackems 02/17/23 4:31:33 PM #35:	VeggetaX posted... Guess you're letting the reviews dictate your decision When it comes to games that are 50-70 bucks and many hours long it helps to read reviews and know what you're getting yourself into Different breed than movie reviews --- Common sense says it may not taste good, but it'll make a turd. <cite>Smackems posted [p:971634845] in Tales of S... [t:80351403]...</cite> <quote>VeggetaX posted... </cite><quote>Guess you're letting the reviews dictate your decision</quote>When it comes to games that are 50-70 bucks and many hours long it helps to read reviews and know what you're getting yourself into Different breed than movie reviews</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Powdered_Toast 02/17/23 4:32:24 PM #36:	I didn't expect much but I'm still disappointed. Also Raine is the best. --- Want some rye? 'Course ya do! <cite>Powdered_Toast posted [p:971634858] in Tales of S... [t:80351403]...</cite> <quote>I didn't expect much but I'm still disappointed.Also Raine is the best.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Priere 02/17/23 4:34:15 PM #37:	They have remastered and ported Symphonia like 4 times. But not a single modern version of Graces? --- https://imgur.com/iQep35u https://i.imgur.com/PmX8smn.gif https://i.imgur.com/mwTy0iF.gif https://i.imgur.com/FCER80e.gif <cite>Priere posted [p:971634899] in Tales of S... [t:80351403]...</cite> <quote>They have remastered and ported Symphonia like 4 times. But not a single modern version of Graces?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mistere_Man 02/17/23 4:35:57 PM #38:	Priere posted... They have remastered and ported Symphonia like 4 times. But not a single modern version of Graces? Yeah I would love to play Graces F again! Yes my ps3 is not working before anyone asks. --- Water+Fall=Radiation. <cite>Mistere_Man posted [p:971634925] in Tales of S... [t:80351403]...</cite> <quote>Priere posted... </cite><quote>They have remastered and ported Symphonia like 4 times. But not a single modern version of Graces?</quote>Yeah I would love to play Graces F again! Yes my ps3 is not working before anyone asks.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Calwings 02/17/23 5:05:41 PM #39:	NeonTentacles posted... whats the context to this? >_> Spoil me *ToS spoilers in the link/post below* https://www.reddit.com/r/tales/comments/113v39o/not_going_to_spoil_why_due_to_first_timers_but/ Genis's character model has an Exsphere on his hand from the beginning of the game, but he's not supposed to have that there until after the fight with the monster at the Human Ranch, which is hours into the game and after a major reveal about Exspheres. For some reason, it only does this in the PS4 version and not the Switch version, and only in the localized version and not the Japanese version. --- https://i.imgur.com/PmF1p9q.jpg <cite>Calwings posted [p:971635619] in Tales of S... [t:80351403]...</cite> <quote>NeonTentacles posted...</cite><quote>whats the context to this? >_> Spoil me</quote>ToS spoilers in the link/post belowhttps://www.reddit.com/r/tales/comments/113v39o/not_going_to_spoil_why_due_to_first_timers_but/Genis's character model has an Exsphere on his hand from the beginning of the game, but he's not supposed to have that there until after the fight with the monster at the Human Ranch, which is hours into the game and after a major reveal about Exspheres. For some reason, it only does this in the PS4 version and not the Switch version, and only in the localized version and not the Japanese version.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Prestoff 02/17/23 5:09:17 PM #40:	Calwings posted... https://www.reddit.com/r/tales/comments/114idrr/psa_symphonia_remastered_and_all_the_other/ The original Gamecube version is the only version with 60fps and Bandai Namco might have lost the source code for it, so they have to use the PS2 30fps version as a base for all future ports of the game. The problem is, the game engine from that version is apparently directly tied to the game's fps, to the point where trying to change it from 30 to 60 would completely break the game. I don't think anything short of completely rebuilding the game from the ground up would ever get us a full ToS remake with 60fps, but at that point, BN would rather put those resources into a brand new Tales game instead of going through all of that trouble for a remake. The 30fps thing is unfortunately an issue that will likely never be fixed. That being said, this doesn't excuse the numerous other issues that this release is facing. Shitty loading times, fps drops below the standard 30, screen transitions missing, menus and text being messed up, a character being loaded with the wrong model too early that accidentally spoils something major later on... it's actually unbelievable how awful this port is. It's objectively the worst version of the game that's ever been released. Well I'm glad I managed to play the best version of the game on the GC lol. --- DI MOLTO! <cite>Prestoff posted [p:971635694] in Tales of S... [t:80351403]...</cite> <quote>Calwings posted... </cite><quote>https://www.reddit.com/r/tales/comments/114idrr/psa_symphonia_remastered_and_all_the_other/The original Gamecube version is the only version with 60fps and Bandai Namco might have lost the source code for it, so they have to use the PS2 30fps version as a base for all future ports of the game. The problem is, the game engine from that version is apparently directly tied to the game's fps, to the point where trying to change it from 30 to 60 would completely break the game. I don't think anything short of completely rebuilding the game from the ground up would ever get us a full ToS remake with 60fps, but at that point, BN would rather put those resources into a brand new Tales game instead of going through all of that trouble for a remake. The 30fps thing is unfortunately an issue that will likely never be fixed.That being said, this doesn't excuse the numerous other issues that this release is facing. Shitty loading times, fps drops below the standard 30, screen transitions missing, menus and text being messed up, a character being loaded with the wrong model too early that accidentally spoils something major later on... it's actually unbelievable how awful this port is. It's objectively the worst version of the game that's ever been released.</quote>Well I'm glad I managed to play the best version of the game on the GC lol. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FridgeBeard 02/17/23 5:12:20 PM #41:	Priere posted... They have remastered and ported Symphonia like 4 times. But not a single modern version of Graces? Symphonia is low-hanging fruit and basically the FF7 for Tales Of. People are still picking up this shoddy port based on name alone. But I agree, I wish Bamco did a little more with their Tales backlog. I'd love a Destiny duology pack, or even a remaster of Legendia, but it would be cool if we got all the PS3 games too (Graces, both Xillias). I remember for a while there was a rumor that Phantasia was getting a full-blown 3D remake too. --- https://backloggery.com/FridgeBeard http://i.imgur.com/AW4vp.png - Credit: Breloom <cite>FridgeBeard posted [p:971635750] in Tales of S... [t:80351403]...</cite> <quote>Priere posted... </cite><quote>They have remastered and ported Symphonia like 4 times. But not a single modern version of Graces?</quote>Symphonia is low-hanging fruit and basically the FF7 for Tales Of. People are still picking up this shoddy port based on name alone.But I agree, I wish Bamco did a little more with their Tales backlog. I'd love a Destiny duology pack, or even a remaster of Legendia, but it would be cool if we got all the PS3 games too (Graces, both Xillias). I remember for a while there was a rumor that Phantasia was getting a full-blown 3D remake too.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
yusiko 02/17/23 5:16:04 PM #42:	isnt it just a port of the ps2 version like all other versions of symphonia? the only advantage the gamecube has over the ps2 port is it runs at 60FPS while all other versions run at 30FPs now ive watced side by side comparison videos and i cannot tell the difference at all so this doent affect me the pros for the ps2 version and its port is that they added more customization and made overlimit much easier to go into so sheena can actually use her summons --- yusketeer <cite>yusiko posted [p:971635835] in Tales of S... [t:80351403]...</cite> <quote>isnt it just a port of the ps2 version like all other versions of symphonia? the only advantage the gamecube has over the ps2 port is it runs at 60FPS while all other versions run at 30FPsnow ive watced side by side comparison videos and i cannot tell the difference at all so this doent affect me the pros for the ps2 version and its port is that they added more customization and made overlimit much easier to go into so sheena can actually use her summons</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Axiom 02/17/23 5:18:10 PM #43:	Hayame_Zero posted... The fact that the load times going in and out of battles end up being longer than the battles themselves in the late game is hilariously sad. Lmao wow. Lazy remasters are the worst <cite>Axiom posted [p:971635868] in Tales of S... [t:80351403]...</cite> <quote>Hayame_Zero posted... </cite><quote>The fact that the load times going in and out of battles end up being longer than the battles themselves in the late game is hilariously sad.</quote>Lmao wow. Lazy remasters are the worst</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Calwings 02/17/23 5:26:48 PM #44:	Prestoff posted... Well I'm glad I managed to play the best version of the game on the GC lol. The PS2 version and the later ports had more content though. New artes, unison attacks, and high artes, cut-in animations for high arts and Sheena's summons, new side events, new costumes, bug fixes, and a bunch of other stuff. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/ps2/920235-tales-of-symphonia/faqs/32765 Being in 60fps is the only benefit the GC version has over the first re-release on the PS3 and on Steam. Granted, it's a big benefit, but whether it's worth not having that extra content is up for debate. yusiko posted... isnt it just a port of the ps2 version like all other versions of symphonia? Technically yes, but it's actually worse in just about every way. There's a bunch of bugs and technical issues in the Switch version, and the PS4 version isn't as bad but still has a few problems. It's a lazy, half-assed port, to the point where it's inferior to the PS3/Steam port we already had before. --- https://i.imgur.com/PmF1p9q.jpg <cite>Calwings posted [p:971636058] in Tales of S... [t:80351403]...</cite> <quote>Prestoff posted...</cite><quote>Well I'm glad I managed to play the best version of the game on the GC lol. </quote>The PS2 version and the later ports had more content though. New artes, unison attacks, and high artes, cut-in animations for high arts and Sheena's summons, new side events, new costumes, bug fixes, and a bunch of other stuff.https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/ps2/920235-tales-of-symphonia/faqs/32765Being in 60fps is the only benefit the GC version has over the first re-release on the PS3 and on Steam. Granted, it's a big benefit, but whether it's worth not having that extra content is up for debate.yusiko posted...</cite><quote>isnt it just a port of the ps2 version like all other versions of symphonia? </quote>Technically yes, but it's actually worse in just about every way. There's a bunch of bugs and technical issues in the Switch version, and the PS4 version isn't as bad but still has a few problems. It's a lazy, half-assed port, to the point where it's inferior to the PS3/Steam port we already had before.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YellowSUV 02/17/23 5:28:45 PM #45:	HylianFox posted... People's obsession with 30/60fps continues to baffle me Becuase 30 fps is garbage for an action game. 60 fps should be considered the bare minimum. --- We all live in a Yellow SUV! a Yellow SUV! <cite>YellowSUV posted [p:971636090] in Tales of S... [t:80351403]...</cite> <quote>HylianFox posted... </cite><quote>People's obsession with 30/60fps continues to baffle me</quote>Becuase 30 fps is garbage for an action game. 60 fps should be considered the bare minimum. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hoodroar 02/17/23 5:30:04 PM #46:	How does a GameCube game get progressively worse with each remaster? --- sigless user logic <cite>Hoodroar posted [p:971636114] in Tales of S... [t:80351403]...</cite> <quote>How does a GameCube game get progressively worse with each remaster?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YellowSUV 02/17/23 5:32:09 PM #47:	Hayame_Zero posted... The fact that the load times going in and out of battles end up being longer than the battles themselves in the late game is hilariously sad. That is just terrible since the original Gamecube version had sub 2 second loading times for battles. --- We all live in a Yellow SUV! a Yellow SUV! <cite>YellowSUV posted [p:971636157] in Tales of S... [t:80351403]...</cite> <quote>Hayame_Zero posted... </cite><quote>The fact that the load times going in and out of battles end up being longer than the battles themselves in the late game is hilariously sad.</quote>That is just terrible since the original Gamecube version had sub 2 second loading times for battles. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YellowSUV 02/17/23 5:33:30 PM #48:	Hoodroar posted... How does a GameCube game get progressively worse with each remaster? Lazy ass ports, most likely because the original source code was lost. Until the mid-00s, most Japanese companies didn't bother to properly archive source code (besides Nintnendo, which has been properly archiving for a long time) --- We all live in a Yellow SUV! a Yellow SUV! <cite>YellowSUV posted [p:971636184] in Tales of S... [t:80351403]...</cite> <quote>Hoodroar posted... </cite><quote>How does a GameCube game get progressively worse with each remaster?</quote>Lazy ass ports, most likely because the original source code was lost. Until the mid-00s, most Japanese companies didn't bother to properly archive source code (besides Nintnendo, which has been properly archiving for a long time)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Alucard188 02/17/23 5:33:47 PM #49:	NeonTentacles posted... whats the context to this? >_> Spoil me I'm going to assume it has to do with Kratos, though Ymil is likely the real thing. --- Face it Cloud is a gaming icon and has appered in lots of games while mario has only appeared in 2 games sunshine and 64~xSlashbomBx <cite>Alucard188 posted [p:971636191] in Tales of S... [t:80351403]...</cite> <quote>NeonTentacles posted... </cite><quote>whats the context to this? >_> Spoil me</quote>I'm going to assume it has to do with Kratos, though Ymil is likely the real thing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gu-gohan 02/19/23 4:33:23 AM #50:	Prestoff posted... Well I'm glad I managed to play the best version of the game on the GC lol. Luckily, I still have it. If I ever want to play it again, I play it again on GameCube. --- Like: videogames, peaceful discussions, open-minded people Dislike: console wars, trolls, haters, review-bombing, bias <cite>gu-gohan posted [p:971666672] in Tales of S... [t:80351403]...</cite> <quote>Prestoff posted... </cite><quote>Well I'm glad I managed to play the best version of the game on the GC lol.</quote>Luckily, I still have it. If I ever want to play it again, I play it again on GameCube.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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