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...And they tell the new hires how shit the company is.

And then these people wonder why the company remains shit.

Trainer: "Can anyone answer this question?"

*one new hire raises their hand*

Trainer: *ignores them, gives the answer to the question*

CyricZ posted...

...And they tell the new hires how shit the company is.

And then these people wonder why the company remains shit.

lying to a new hire isn't going to make the company any less shit

CyricZ posted...

Trainer: "Can anyone answer this question?"

*one new hire raises their hand*

Trainer: *ignores them, gives the answer to the question*

could be getting a sense of who feels comfortable or experienced enough to answer, and who's clueless. or who's more eager.

then again, they could also just be human and not great at what they do

There's a fine line to walk when training new people where you don't want to go full blown "fuck this place" and they walk out but you also want to key them in to certain things that are expected out of them.

Personally, I don't mind it. The pace gets slowed down so you can properly explain the job and in my case, once I've demonstrated the task a few times I can just shadow them for the rest of the day and essentially take it easy.

It's been about 18 months since I've had to train anyone and hopefully it doesn't happen anytime soon as the crew we have works really well together.

TLDR; I like training new hires

Well I think that's an important thing. You do have to like it, and you do have to frame it in a way that motivates people rather than makes them feel like they've made a mistake in joining the company.

As someone who has trained many new hires over the years I simply show them how to do their job, explain what is expected of them and let them form their own opinions on coworkers and the company itself.

Oh I should also mention that I train as well. This is not just me sitting in the stands and being a cranky.

And I never try to frame anything that the company does in a negative light.

Of course me being a contractor most of the time is part of that; I'm not going to make my own client look bad.

CyricZ posted...

...And they tell the new hires how shit the company is.

And then these people wonder why the company remains shit.

I fucking hate this. When I'm training or working with someone new I never tell them if I think someone or the company or a team sucks. I don't want my biases molding their opinion before they even interact with someone.

If the thing is person sucks that bad, they'll figure it out for themselves.

Suolevram posted...

There's a fine line to walk when training new people where you don't want to go full blown "fuck this place" and they walk out but you also want to key them in to certain things that are expected out of them.

This. I was in charge of training for a while at a previous job and for a time management treated most new hires like shit, and as easily replaceable. When people asked me if they could expect upwards mobility or interesting opportunities I would just flat out tell them that it's very unlikely and that they probablement wouldn't be exposed to a lot of new stuff
Without saying the place sucked and that management was awful, I would make sure they didn't have insane expectations when they would be treated as second class employees.

Personally, I prefer when a trainer is honest and straightforward about negatives for the company. I dont want a shill that acts like HR.

I want to really know expectations from both sides.

So I teeter I line with this when I'm training. If I realize that something I said might come off as negative towards the company ill typically explain why it bothers me but how it might be a positive to other people.

I'll usually follow a "if I say a bad thing I'll also say a positive thing" approach. But secretly hiding some bad parts of a job to a new hire is doing a disservice to them in my opinion. I know I'd want to know some of the bad parts and tips on how to make it not so bad.