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Monolith1676 02/11/23 2:13:57 AM #1:	want killers charged because of victim's belief in social justice. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/calif-bakery-owner-dies-days-after-violent-attack-in-broad-daylight/ar-AA17lyU4 --- Gears of War 1 Assassination Legend <cite>Monolith1676 posted [p:971486708] in Woman kill... [t:80344090]...</cite> <quote>want killers charged because of victim's belief in social justice.https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/calif-bakery-owner-dies-days-after-violent-attack-in-broad-daylight/ar-AA17lyU4</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkprince45 02/11/23 2:14:31 AM #2:	I guess it's good the state charges in this case --- https://s6.gifyu.com/images/FAA2F70E-9A97-44BC-A273-317FBB843AE2.gif <cite>darkprince45 posted [p:971486714] in Woman kill... [t:80344090]...</cite> <quote>I guess it's good the state charges in this case</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Monolith1676 02/11/23 7:15:59 PM #3:	Bump --- Gears of War 1 Assassination Legend <cite>Monolith1676 posted [p:971500676] in Woman kill... [t:80344090]...</cite> <quote>Bump</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 02/11/23 7:17:36 PM #4:	fair, next? <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:971500708] in Woman kill... [t:80344090]...</cite> <quote>fair, next?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pow_Pow_Punishment 02/11/23 7:19:12 PM #5:	Several of my friends knew and worked with her. She was an anarchist activist and didn't believe in state punishment. Honestly, at least they're ideologically consistent and practice what they preach, even if I don't agree. A lot of people, especially politicians, believe something until shit happens to THEM. --- Currently playing: Skyrim, Hearthstone Training log: https://powpowpunishment.blogspot.com <cite>Pow_Pow_Punishment posted [p:971500737] in Woman kill... [t:80344090]...</cite> <quote>Several of my friends knew and worked with her. She was an anarchist activist and didn't believe in state punishment. Honestly, at least they're ideologically consistent and practice what they preach, even if I don't agree. A lot of people, especially politicians, believe something until shit happens to THEM.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CommonStar 02/11/23 7:31:04 PM #7:	As of Feb. 10, no arrests had been made in connection with the case. In a statement, Angel's family said that if someone is charged, they want to respect her beliefs surrounding social justice. "As a long-time social movement activist and anarchist, Jen did not believe in state violence, carceral punishment, or incarceration as an effective or just solution to social violence and inequity," the statement reads. "[The] family is committed to pursuing all available alternatives to traditional prosecution, such as restorative justice. Jen's family and close friends ask that the media respect this request and carry forward the story of her life with celebration and clarity about the world she aimed to build." Doesn't say they don't want them charged. <cite>CommonStar posted [p:971500947] in Woman kill... [t:80344090]...</cite> <quote><quote>As of Feb. 10, no arrests had been made in connection with the case. In a statement, Angel's family said that if someone is charged, they want to respect her beliefs surrounding social justice."As a long-time social movement activist and anarchist, Jen did not believe in state violence, carceral punishment, or incarceration as an effective or just solution to social violence and inequity," the statement reads."[The] family is committed to pursuing all available alternatives to traditional prosecution, such as restorative justice. Jen's family and close friends ask that the media respect this request and carry forward the story of her life with celebration and clarity about the world she aimed to build."</quote>Doesn't say they don't want them charged.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pastryarchy 02/11/23 7:31:50 PM #8:	The family should be doing what is going to give THEM the most peace since they're the ones still alive. If not charging the killer is the choice they have made...I don't agree with that decision, particularly in the case of protecting other people...but it's the family's right to make that choice. Maybe they feel dealing with court proceedings would be too much for them to bare during a time a grief. However, I also have to consider that the details of this case spits in the face of the old adage: " live by the sword, die by the sword ". The meaning (in relation to this matter) is that someone who chooses to commit maliciously violent acts should be spared no quarter when receiving violence in return. The culprit chose to harm the people, the people should be granted leniency for firing back. I have no doubt that a family's choice to not press charges in these matters will continue to be the rare one. Some (and IMO most) will take greater relief in seeing the killer punished or at least drastically inconvenienced in any way possible. --- Let them eat cake. http://tryimg.com/8/2017/06/05/3BY9w.gif http://tryimg.com/8/2017/06/05/3Bstc.jpg <cite>Pastryarchy posted [p:971500968] in Woman kill... [t:80344090]...</cite> <quote>The family should be doing what is going to give THEM the most peace since they're the ones still alive.If not charging the killer is the choice they have made...I don't agree with that decision, particularly in the case of protecting other people...but it's the family's right to make that choice. Maybe they feel dealing with court proceedings would be too much for them to bare during a time a grief.However, I also have to consider that the details of this case spits in the face of the old adage: " live by the sword, die by the sword ". The meaning (in relation to this matter) is that someone who chooses to commit maliciously violent acts should be spared no quarter when receiving violence in return. The culprit chose to harm the people, the people should be granted leniency for firing back.I have no doubt that a family's choice to not press charges in these matters will continue to be the rare one. Some (and IMO most) will take greater relief in seeing the killer punished or at least drastically inconvenienced in any way possible.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Savoots 02/11/23 7:31:56 PM #9:	Wow at the comments in that article. --- Nirvana <cite>Savoots posted [p:971500972] in Woman kill... [t:80344090]...</cite> <quote>Wow at the comments in that article.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Monolith1676 02/11/23 7:32:57 PM #10:	CommonStar posted... Doesn't say they don't want them charged. It says they don't want traditional prosecution. --- Gears of War 1 Assassination Legend <cite>Monolith1676 posted [p:971500993] in Woman kill... [t:80344090]...</cite> <quote>CommonStar posted... </cite><quote>Doesn't say they don't want them charged.</quote>It says they don't want traditional prosecution.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MarcyWarcy 02/11/23 7:33:11 PM #11:	Pastryarchy posted... The family should be doing what is going to give THEM the most peace since they're the ones still alive. Seems to me like they are <cite>MarcyWarcy posted [p:971501000] in Woman kill... [t:80344090]...</cite> <quote>Pastryarchy posted... </cite><quote>The family should be doing what is going to give THEM the most peace since they're the ones still alive.</quote>Seems to me like they are</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Monolith1676 02/11/23 7:37:02 PM #12:	Pow_Pow_Punishment posted... Several of my friends knew and worked with her. She was an anarchist activist and didn't believe in state punishment. Honestly, at least they're ideologically consistent and practice what they preach, even if I don't agree. A lot of people, especially politicians, believe something until shit happens to THEM. It is a small world. If she was an anarchist activist I wonder why she chased down the person who stole her purse. --- Gears of War 1 Assassination Legend <cite>Monolith1676 posted [p:971501078] in Woman kill... [t:80344090]...</cite> <quote>Pow_Pow_Punishment posted... </cite><quote>Several of my friends knew and worked with her. She was an anarchist activist and didn't believe in state punishment. Honestly, at least they're ideologically consistent and practice what they preach, even if I don't agree. A lot of people, especially politicians, believe something until shit happens to THEM.</quote>It is a small world. If she was an anarchist activist I wonder why she chased down the person who stole her purse.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Master_Kazuya 02/11/23 7:39:20 PM #13:	I feel like you're kind of doing a disservice to society by willingly letting a violent criminal like that on the loose. Maybe if that criminal had some sort of Unbreakable Oath or some shit that they wouldn't do it again, sure. But you're just letting that person go off and do more shit to people. It's a little selfish in the closure imo --- 1 Like 0 Comments <cite>Master_Kazuya posted [p:971501117] in Woman kill... [t:80344090]...</cite> <quote>I feel like you're kind of doing a disservice to society by willingly letting a violent criminal like that on the loose. Maybe if that criminal had some sort of Unbreakable Oath or some shit that they wouldn't do it again, sure. But you're just letting that person go off and do more shit to people. It's a little selfish in the closure imo</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrizztLink 02/11/23 7:41:38 PM #14:	MarcyWarcy posted... Seems to me like they are No, you see, not like that. --- http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png <cite>DrizztLink posted [p:971501145] in Woman kill... [t:80344090]...</cite> <quote>MarcyWarcy posted... </cite><quote>Seems to me like they are</quote>No, you see, not like that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Smackems 02/11/23 7:43:21 PM #16:	Yeah fuck that put him in jail --- Common sense says it may not taste good, but it'll make a turd. <cite>Smackems posted [p:971501187] in Woman kill... [t:80344090]...</cite> <quote>Yeah fuck that put him in jail</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pow_Pow_Punishment 02/11/23 7:44:21 PM #17:	Monolith1676 posted... It is a small world. If she was an anarchist activist I wonder why she chased down the person who stole her purse. Anarchists don't believe in free-for-all crime and violence, but community support over the state. It doesn't mean she's contradicting herself by going to confront them. If anything, she stuck to her beliefs by (unfortunately) doing that instead of calling the state for help via 911. --- Currently playing: Skyrim, Hearthstone Training log: https://powpowpunishment.blogspot.com <cite>Pow_Pow_Punishment posted [p:971501211] in Woman kill... [t:80344090]...</cite> <quote>Monolith1676 posted... </cite><quote>It is a small world. If she was an anarchist activist I wonder why she chased down the person who stole her purse.</quote>Anarchists don't believe in free-for-all crime and violence, but community support over the state. It doesn't mean she's contradicting herself by going to confront them. If anything, she stuck to her beliefs by (unfortunately) doing that instead of calling the state for help via 911.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Master_Bass 02/11/23 7:46:11 PM #18:	Yeah, it doesn't say they don't want justice. It's just they don't want him locked away in jail or anything like that. They're calling for restorative justice. --- Many Bothans died to bring you this post. <cite>Master_Bass posted [p:971501242] in Woman kill... [t:80344090]...</cite> <quote>Yeah, it doesn't say they don't want justice. It's just they don't want him locked away in jail or anything like that. They're calling for restorative justice. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vyrulisse 02/11/23 7:47:07 PM #19:	Literally irrelevant. We have laws in this society and your personal beliefs don't take precedence. "Restorative justice" Sorry but if you murder you don't get that benefit of the doubt. --- http://i.imgur.com/6VeX04D.jpg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9E_jJOPpSXY <cite>Vyrulisse posted [p:971501259] in Woman kill... [t:80344090]...</cite> <quote>Literally irrelevant. We have laws in this society and your personal beliefs don't take precedence."Restorative justice" Sorry but if you murder you don't get that benefit of the doubt.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solution_45 02/11/23 7:56:58 PM #20:	Savoots posted... Wow at the comments in that article. giving me some laughs tbh <cite>Solution_45 posted [p:971501439] in Woman kill... [t:80344090]...</cite> <quote>Savoots posted... </cite><quote>Wow at the comments in that article.</quote>giving me some laughs tbh </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NonDairyMiltank 02/11/23 7:56:59 PM #21:	fucker should still be charged regardless of the victim's ideologies if the killer's identity is known, their ass needs to be put in check because they have proven themselves a public danger to more people i get theyre grieving, but i dont agree with a fam's decision to not charge im glad some of these fuckers can still be nailed with jailtime by the state when the victim's fam just wants out plenty of us in the hood still want to see cops beat or shoot the shit out of confirmed cold blooded murderers, we just dont always say it cause community consequences --- Moo. #Listen&Investigate <cite>NonDairyMiltank posted [p:971501441] in Woman kill... [t:80344090]...</cite> <quote>fucker should still be charged regardless of the victim's ideologiesif the killer's identity is known, their ass needs to be put in check because they have proven themselves a public danger to more peoplei get theyre grieving, but i dont agree with a fam's decision to not chargeim glad some of these fuckers can still be nailed with jailtime by the state when the victim's fam just wants outplenty of us in the hood still want to see cops beat or shoot the shit out of confirmed cold blooded murderers, we just dont always say it cause community consequences</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WaterLink 02/11/23 7:58:09 PM #22:	Master_Bass posted... They're calling for restorative justice. How do you restore a human life though? And if he's robbing people odds are he doesn't have much money to give. I generally don't think jail/prison should be for nonviolent crimes like shoplifting, drug crimes, etc but for abusers and killers that are a threat to harm others left to their own devices I don't really know what the alternative should be for them. --- https://i.imgur.com/Y5Tq1gV.gif https://i.imgur.com/sgLkVQU.gif Joe Burrow, the legend <cite>WaterLink posted [p:971501467] in Woman kill... [t:80344090]...</cite> <quote>Master_Bass posted... </cite><quote>They're calling for restorative justice.</quote>How do you restore a human life though? And if he's robbing people odds are he doesn't have much money to give. I generally don't think jail/prison should be for nonviolent crimes like shoplifting, drug crimes, etc but for abusers and killers that are a threat to harm others left to their own devices I don't really know what the alternative should be for them. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrCokeacola 02/11/23 8:05:20 PM #23:	darkprince45 posted... I guess it's good the state charges in this case Thanks for summing everything up in the first reply and saving me time to not read the rest of the ChatGPT auto-generated responses in this flopic. --- Video game hardware should be seen, but not played. <cite>MrCokeacola posted [p:971501583] in Woman kill... [t:80344090]...</cite> <quote>darkprince45 posted... </cite><quote>I guess it's good the state charges in this case</quote>Thanks for summing everything up in the first reply and saving me time to not read the rest of the ChatGPT auto-generated responses in this flopic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Monolith1676 02/12/23 7:32:47 AM #24:	Pow_Pow_Punishment posted... Anarchists don't believe in free-for-all crime and violence, but community support over the state. It doesn't mean she's contradicting herself by going to confront them. If anything, she stuck to her beliefs by (unfortunately) doing that instead of calling the state for help via 911. If they don't believe in that then I would say they aren't anarchists and should adopt a better term. --- Gears of War 1 Assassination Legend <cite>Monolith1676 posted [p:971510227] in Woman kill... [t:80344090]...</cite> <quote>Pow_Pow_Punishment posted... </cite><quote>Anarchists don't believe in free-for-all crime and violence, but community support over the state. It doesn't mean she's contradicting herself by going to confront them. If anything, she stuck to her beliefs by (unfortunately) doing that instead of calling the state for help via 911.</quote>If they don't believe in that then I would say they aren't anarchists and should adopt a better term.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Philip027 02/12/23 7:40:23 AM #25:	Yeah, no. The family of the victim shouldn't get to decide that a robber+killer gets to go scot-free just because they happen to be nice. That's fine for you; that isn't fine for everyone else. <cite>Philip027 posted [p:971510288] in Woman kill... [t:80344090]...</cite> <quote>Yeah, no. The family of the victim shouldn't get to decide that a robber+killer gets to go scot-free just because they happen to be nice. That's fine for you; that isn't fine for everyone else.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Crazyman93 02/12/23 7:43:20 AM #26:	CommonStar posted... state violence, carceral punishment, or incarceration as an effective or just solution to social violence and inequity, Good thing prison isn't supposed to solve those issues, it's supposed to separate thugs who think doing what they did to her is acceptable from polite society. --- let's lubricate friction material! ~nickels, Cars & Trucks <cite>Crazyman93 posted [p:971510315] in Woman kill... [t:80344090]...</cite> <quote>CommonStar posted... </cite><quote>state violence, carceral punishment, or incarceration as an effective or just solution to social violence and inequity,</quote>Good thing prison isn't supposed to solve those issues, it's supposed to separate thugs who think doing what they did to her is acceptable from polite society.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dat_Cracka_Jax 02/12/23 8:02:00 AM #28:	Solution_45 posted... giving me some laughs tbh "Lol someone I disagree with got killed. Let's dunk on them!!" --- http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/8131/flame201010170949481638.jpg http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/5517/cateyes.gif Rams: 7-9 <cite>Dat_Cracka_Jax posted [p:971510478] in Woman kill... [t:80344090]...</cite> <quote>Solution_45 posted... </cite><quote>giving me some laughs tbh</quote>"Lol someone I disagree with got killed. Let's dunk on them!!"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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emblem-man 02/12/23 8:10:45 AM #30:	People are getting weirdly mad about this. The choice isn't the families at all when it comes to this, so no need to take this so seriously. Pow_Pow_Punishment posted... Honestly, at least they're ideologically consistent and practice what they preach, even if I don't agree. A lot of people, especially politicians, believe something until shit happens to THEM. This is pretty much my takeaway. --- http://avatar.xboxlive.com/avatar/emblem%20boy/avatar-body.png haters gonna hate <cite>emblem-man posted [p:971510568] in Woman kill... [t:80344090]...</cite> <quote>People are getting weirdly mad about this. The choice isn't the families at all when it comes to this, so no need to take this so seriously.Pow_Pow_Punishment posted... </cite><quote>Honestly, at least they're ideologically consistent and practice what they preach, even if I don't agree. A lot of people, especially politicians, believe something until shit happens to THEM.</quote>This is pretty much my takeaway. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bass_X0 02/12/23 8:10:55 AM #31:	Monolith1676 posted... want killers charged because of victim's belief in social justice. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/calif-bakery-owner-dies-days-after-violent-attack-in-broad-daylight/ar-AA17lyU4 Should be charged anyway since the action was illegal and they could go on to kill further. --- "Well, it's not a bad game. It's made by Capcom, so how could it?" ~ AVGN <cite>Bass_X0 posted [p:971510570] in Woman kill... [t:80344090]...</cite> <quote>Monolith1676 posted... </cite><quote>want killers charged because of victim's belief in social justice.https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/calif-bakery-owner-dies-days-after-violent-attack-in-broad-daylight/ar-AA17lyU4</quote>Should be charged anyway since the action was illegal and they could go on to kill further.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnholyMudcrab 02/12/23 8:14:45 AM #32:	Crazyman93 posted... Good thing prison isn't supposed to solve those issues, it's supposed to separate thugs who think doing what they did to her is acceptable from polite society. Well, no, what prisons in the United States are supposed to do is make a bunch of money for the people running them. --- http://i.imgur.com/VeNBg.gif http://i.imgur.com/gd5jC8q.gif http://i.imgur.com/PKIy7.gif http://i.imgur.com/3p29JqP.gif <cite>UnholyMudcrab posted [p:971510611] in Woman kill... [t:80344090]...</cite> <quote>Crazyman93 posted... </cite><quote>Good thing prison isn't supposed to solve those issues, it's supposed to separate thugs who think doing what they did to her is acceptable from polite society.</quote>Well, no, what prisons in the United States are supposed to do is make a bunch of money for the people running them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheOtherMike 02/12/23 8:14:57 AM #33:	CommonStar posted... Doesn't say they don't want them charged. Literally this. --- Only two things can end a Republican's career - a dead girl or a live boy. <cite>TheOtherMike posted [p:971510615] in Woman kill... [t:80344090]...</cite> <quote>CommonStar posted... </cite><quote>Doesn't say they don't want them charged.</quote>Literally this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
party_animal07 02/12/23 9:10:17 AM #34:	TheOtherMike posted... Literally this. "[The] family is committed to pursuing all available alternatives to traditional prosecution, such as restorative justice. --- https://warpzone.me/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/GRANDIA_-696x509.jpg <cite>party_animal07 posted [p:971511230] in Woman kill... [t:80344090]...</cite> <quote>TheOtherMike posted... </cite><quote>Literally this.</quote>"[The] family is committed to pursuing all available alternatives to traditional prosecution, such as restorative justice. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScazarMeltex 02/12/23 9:24:12 AM #35:	Monolith1676 posted... If they don't believe in that then I would say they aren't anarchists and should adopt a better term. No, it just means that you should be smarter and actually understand the terms that you are using. Let the grown ups talk. --- Furthermore, The GOP is a Fascist Organization and must be destroyed <cite>ScazarMeltex posted [p:971511405] in Woman kill... [t:80344090]...</cite> <quote>Monolith1676 posted... </cite><quote>If they don't believe in that then I would say they aren't anarchists and should adopt a better term.</quote>No, it just means that you should be smarter and actually understand the terms that you are using. Let the grown ups talk.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheOtherMike 02/12/23 10:01:55 AM #36:	party_animal07 posted... "[The] family is committed to pursuing all available alternatives to *traditional* prosecution, such as restorative justice. Operative word here. --- Only two things can end a Republican's career - a dead girl or a live boy. <cite>TheOtherMike posted [p:971511902] in Woman kill... [t:80344090]...</cite> <quote>party_animal07 posted... </cite><quote>"[The] family is committed to pursuing all available alternatives to traditional prosecution, such as restorative justice. </quote>Operative word here.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
josifrees 02/12/23 10:44:36 AM #37:	This is what Jesus says you should do --- Quit Crying <cite>josifrees posted [p:971512520] in Woman kill... [t:80344090]...</cite> <quote>This is what Jesus says you should do </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GeraldDarko 02/12/23 10:47:36 AM #38:	Monolith1676 posted... If they don't believe in that then I would say they aren't anarchists and should adopt a better term. Misunderstands the definition of a word, but he isn't wrong, the word is wrong. Living in his own little world. --- Carpe petat <cite>GeraldDarko posted [p:971512570] in Woman kill... [t:80344090]...</cite> <quote>Monolith1676 posted... </cite><quote>If they don't believe in that then I would say they aren't anarchists and should adopt a better term.</quote>Misunderstands the definition of a word, but he isn't wrong, the word is wrong. Living in his own little world. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Monolith1676 02/12/23 10:55:25 AM #39:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anarchy --- Gears of War 1 Assassination Legend <cite>Monolith1676 posted [p:971512704] in Woman kill... [t:80344090]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anarchy</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 02/12/23 11:02:23 AM #40:	WaterLink posted... How do you restore a human life though? And if he's robbing people odds are he doesn't have much money to give. I generally don't think jail/prison should be for nonviolent crimes like shoplifting, drug crimes, etc but for abusers and killers that are a threat to harm others left to their own devices I don't really know what the alternative should be for them. You can't restore life once it's lost but you can turn a murderer into a constructive member of society. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:971512815] in Woman kill... [t:80344090]...</cite> <quote>WaterLink posted... </cite><quote>How do you restore a human life though? And if he's robbing people odds are he doesn't have much money to give. I generally don't think jail/prison should be for nonviolent crimes like shoplifting, drug crimes, etc but for abusers and killers that are a threat to harm others left to their own devices I don't really know what the alternative should be for them.</quote>You can't restore life once it's lost but you can turn a murderer into a constructive member of society.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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