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Pogo_Marimo 02/01/23 12:15:12 PM #1:	Topic Title Yes No Topic Title - Results (89 votes) Yes 75.28% (67 votes) 67 No 24.72% (22 votes) 22 Interested in your opinions. --- 'Cause you know that I have no fear, ain't gonna walk into the river and disappear. I'm gonna be a powerful man. Red blood running down the broken sand. <cite>Pogo_Marimo posted [p:971253453] in Was PH's m... [t:80332220]...</cite> <quote> Topic Title Yes No Vote View Results Topic Title - Results (89 votes) Yes 75.28% (67 votes) 67 No 24.72% (22 votes) 22 Show Voting Form function poll_vote() { var vote_option = $("input[name='poll_vote']:checked").val(); if(!vote_option) return; $.ajax({ type: 'POST', url: '/ajax/forum_poll_vote', data: { option: vote_option, board: '400', topic: '80332220', message: '0', key: '7e51f65a' }, success: function(response) { if(response.error) { alert(response.error); } else { $("#poll_vote").hide(); $("#poll_results").html(response.html).show(); } } }); } function view_results_legacy() { $("#poll_vote").hide(); $("#poll_results").show(); } function hide_results_legacy() { $("#poll_results").hide(); $("#poll_vote").show(); } Interested in your opinions. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 02/01/23 12:19:35 PM #2:	Not a mistake, but definitely a bad decision. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:971253560] in Was PH's m... [t:80332220]...</cite> <quote>Not a mistake, but definitely a bad decision.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid_Seb 02/01/23 12:24:06 PM #3:	If I recall they were being threatened by credit card companies so it was a good decision on their end <cite>Solid_Seb posted [p:971253684] in Was PH's m... [t:80332220]...</cite> <quote>If I recall they were being threatened by credit card companies so it was a good decision on their end</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 02/01/23 12:25:05 PM #4:	They did it anyway, and still haven't got Visa or Mastercard back, last I checked. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:971253712] in Was PH's m... [t:80332220]...</cite> <quote>They did it anyway, and still haven't got Visa or Mastercard back, last I checked.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pogo_Marimo 02/01/23 1:25:19 PM #5:	Questionmarktarius posted... They did it anyway, and still haven't got Visa or Mastercard back, last I checked. It's always weird to think about because, like, was VISA or MasterCard actually catching flak for that? I'm sure their income from PH was negligible but still, weird thing to do largely unprompted. --- 'Cause you know that I have no fear, ain't gonna walk into the river and disappear. I'm gonna be a powerful man. Red blood running down the broken sand. <cite>Pogo_Marimo posted [p:971255152] in Was PH's m... [t:80332220]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite><quote>They did it anyway, and still haven't got Visa or Mastercard back, last I checked.</quote>It's always weird to think about because, like, was VISA or MasterCard actually catching flak for that? I'm sure their income from PH was negligible but still, weird thing to do largely unprompted.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
refmon 02/01/23 1:30:32 PM #6:	It killed the site --- If you read this signature, then that meant that I had control of what you read for 5 SECONDS!! <cite>refmon posted [p:971255274] in Was PH's m... [t:80332220]...</cite> <quote>It killed the site</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 02/01/23 1:31:23 PM #7:	Pogo_Marimo posted... It's always weird to think about because, like, was VISA or MasterCard actually catching flak for that? Lawyers, probably. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:971255303] in Was PH's m... [t:80332220]...</cite> <quote>Pogo_Marimo posted... </cite><quote>It's always weird to think about because, like, was VISA or MasterCard actually catching flak for that?</quote>Lawyers, probably.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MelbuFrahma4 02/01/23 1:33:21 PM #8:	Pogo_Marimo posted... It's always weird to think about because, like, was VISA or MasterCard actually catching flak for that? Yea they were. There were articles saying Visa and Mastercard support CP. --- "We'll never see Day-Lewis and Kubrick, or Kurosawa and Eastwood, but we have seen Bale and Nolan, a cinematic dream pairing come to life!" <cite>MelbuFrahma4 posted [p:971255349] in Was PH's m... [t:80332220]...</cite> <quote>Pogo_Marimo posted... </cite><quote>It's always weird to think about because, like, was VISA or MasterCard actually catching flak for that?</quote>Yea they were. There were articles saying Visa and Mastercard support CP.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ArchNemo 02/01/23 1:36:23 PM #9:	I guess it depends on how you measure kids and other people being exploited against a corporation making slightly less money. --- Down with the Signess. <cite>ArchNemo posted [p:971255420] in Was PH's m... [t:80332220]...</cite> <quote>I guess it depends on how you measure kids and other people being exploited against a corporation making slightly less money. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 02/01/23 1:38:38 PM #10:	MelbuFrahma4 posted... Yea they were. There were articles saying Visa and Mastercard support CP. Being any part of CP, even indirectly, would probably open up Visa & MC to RICO smackdown disaster. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:971255470] in Was PH's m... [t:80332220]...</cite> <quote>MelbuFrahma4 posted... </cite><quote>Yea they were. There were articles saying Visa and Mastercard support CP.</quote>Being any part of CP, even indirectly, would probably open up Visa & MC to RICO smackdown disaster.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TaylorHeinicke 02/01/23 1:41:53 PM #11:	I don't have an issue with their goal, but the execution was brutal What pisses me off the most is how, if you go to an old link, it says "this video has been flagged for review" -- which very strongly implies that they might actually come back we all know that aint happening. so just say it was deleted. --- St. Louis Battlehawks (1-1) <cite>TaylorHeinicke posted [p:971255546] in Was PH's m... [t:80332220]...</cite> <quote>I don't have an issue with their goal, but the execution was brutalWhat pisses me off the most is how, if you go to an old link, it says "this video has been flagged for review" -- which very strongly implies that they might actually come backwe all know that aint happening. so just say it was deleted.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NecroFoul99 02/01/23 1:42:54 PM #12:	Well, I know I lost interest. --- If you have to lie to make your point, then you're just a liar who has no point. <cite>NecroFoul99 posted [p:971255566] in Was PH's m... [t:80332220]...</cite> <quote>Well, I know I lost interest. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WingsOfGood 02/01/23 1:43:19 PM #13:	PH ? Chemistry youtube? <cite>WingsOfGood posted [p:971255576] in Was PH's m... [t:80332220]...</cite> <quote>PH ?Chemistry youtube?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 02/01/23 1:44:10 PM #14:	Pogo_Marimo posted... It's always weird to think about because, like, was VISA or MasterCard actually catching flak for that? I'm sure their income from PH was negligible but still, weird thing to do largely unprompted. The kinds of flak they get is invisible. Fraud is insane with porn purchases and that's just the legal kind. We don't see it but they're fighting it in court all the time. If it was harder for people to call their bank and say "No I definitely did not buy Anus Annihilator 27 please charge back" then maybe PH wouldn't have had this problem. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:971255596] in Was PH's m... [t:80332220]...</cite> <quote>Pogo_Marimo posted... </cite><quote>It's always weird to think about because, like, was VISA or MasterCard actually catching flak for that? I'm sure their income from PH was negligible but still, weird thing to do largely unprompted.</quote>The kinds of flak they get is invisible. Fraud is insane with porn purchases and that's just the legal kind. We don't see it but they're fighting it in court all the time. If it was harder for people to call their bank and say "No I definitely did not buy Anus Annihilator 27 please charge back" then maybe PH wouldn't have had this problem.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MelbuFrahma4 02/01/23 1:45:00 PM #15:	WingsOfGood posted... PH ? Chemistry youtube? This site bans people from saying porn site names. Despite the average age being early 30s at this point lol. --- "We'll never see Day-Lewis and Kubrick, or Kurosawa and Eastwood, but we have seen Bale and Nolan, a cinematic dream pairing come to life!" <cite>MelbuFrahma4 posted [p:971255614] in Was PH's m... [t:80332220]...</cite> <quote>WingsOfGood posted... </cite><quote>PH ?Chemistry youtube?</quote>This site bans people from saying porn site names. Despite the average age being early 30s at this point lol.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 02/01/23 1:46:25 PM #16:	I wonder what the viability would be of a "MasturbatorCard" credit card... <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:971255646] in Was PH's m... [t:80332220]...</cite> <quote>I wonder what the viability would be of a "MasturbatorCard" credit card...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NoxObscuras 02/01/23 1:48:31 PM #17:	It was a monumentally bad decision. They didn't want to be bothered with actually monitoring what's uploaded to their site and instead went full scorched earth. They deleted nearly 80% of the content that was there, so now it's a shell of it's former self. --- PSN - NoxObscuras Z490 \| i9-10900K \| EVGA 3080 FTW3 Ultra \| 32GB DDR4 3600 \| 4TB SSD <cite>NoxObscuras posted [p:971255678] in Was PH's m... [t:80332220]...</cite> <quote>It was a monumentally bad decision. They didn't want to be bothered with actually monitoring what's uploaded to their site and instead went full scorched earth. They deleted nearly 80% of the content that was there, so now it's a shell of it's former self.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 02/01/23 1:50:42 PM #18:	You have to be a "partner business" or "verified model" to upload anything now, so all that's getting uploaded anymore is chopped up paysite and OF spam. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:971255729] in Was PH's m... [t:80332220]...</cite> <quote>You have to be a "partner business" or "verified model" to upload anything now, so all that's getting uploaded anymore is chopped up paysite and OF spam.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrToothHasYou 02/01/23 1:51:17 PM #19:	No, I think going scorched earth in an attempt to get rid of all the revenge porn/child porn was a commendable decision, even though I know it was ultimately made for financial and not ethical reasons. --- An Injury to One is an Injury to All https://iww.org/ <cite>MrToothHasYou posted [p:971255744] in Was PH's m... [t:80332220]...</cite> <quote>No, I think going scorched earth in an attempt to get rid of all the revenge porn/child porn was a commendable decision, even though I know it was ultimately made for financial and not ethical reasons.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jennywentnorth8 02/01/23 1:52:38 PM #20:	I don't remember what the deletion criteria even was. Amateur vids? <cite>Jennywentnorth8 posted [p:971255771] in Was PH's m... [t:80332220]...</cite> <quote>I don't remember what the deletion criteria even was. Amateur vids?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 02/01/23 1:54:52 PM #21:	Jennywentnorth8 posted... I don't remember what the deletion criteria even was. "Verified", which meant submitting a scan of your ID. The people who would turn the TV up *WAY TOO LOUD* and film themselves sloppily fucking in terrible lighting, are not going to do that. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:971255814] in Was PH's m... [t:80332220]...</cite> <quote>Jennywentnorth8 posted... </cite><quote>I don't remember what the deletion criteria even was.</quote>"Verified", which meant submitting a scan of your ID.The people who would turn the TV up WAY TOO LOUD and film themselves sloppily fucking in terrible lighting, are not going to do that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeonTentacles 02/01/23 2:01:10 PM #22:	Hell yeah it was a terrible decision lol. They deleted 80% of their content from 14 million to like 3 million videos. The catalyst was that article saying there was CP on the site but an investigation showed there was only like 100 videos that had it, compared to like millions on Facebook. So they essentially were lazy as fuck and nuked 11 million videos for .00001% of bad videos instead just going through abuse reports like a normal site. They burned the Library of Alexandra >_> I still haven't seen a ton of videos on any other site. Lost forever in the sands of time : ( --- https://imgur.com/aMaI3hj https://imgur.com/7PsdJNc https://imgur.com/eK8vZVn https://imgur.com/u2HR4nG https://imgur.com/nQGM5cZ <cite>NeonTentacles posted [p:971255955] in Was PH's m... [t:80332220]...</cite> <quote>Hell yeah it was a terrible decision lol. They deleted 80% of their content from 14 million to like 3 million videos. The catalyst was that article saying there was CP on the site but an investigation showed there was only like 100 videos that had it, compared to like millions on Facebook. So they essentially were lazy as fuck and nuked 11 million videos for .00001% of bad videos instead just going through abuse reports like a normal site.They burned the Library of Alexandra >_> I still haven't seen a ton of videos on any other site. Lost forever in the sands of time : (</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 02/01/23 2:04:21 PM #23:	NeonTentacles posted... Hell yeah it was a terrible decision lol. They deleted 80% of their content from 14 million to like 3 million videos. The catalyst was that article saying there was CP on the site but an investigation showed there was only like 100 videos that had it, compared to like millions on Facebook. So they essentially were lazy as fuck and nuked 11 million videos for .00001% of bad videos instead just going through abuse reports like a normal site. They burned the Library of Alexandra >_> I still haven't seen a ton of videos on any other site. Lost forever in the sands of time : ( Weren't they also dealing with issues regarding too much revenge porn being posted on their site? --- Who is? I am! <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:971256024] in Was PH's m... [t:80332220]...</cite> <quote>NeonTentacles posted... </cite><quote>Hell yeah it was a terrible decision lol. They deleted 80% of their content from 14 million to like 3 million videos. The catalyst was that article saying there was CP on the site but an investigation showed there was only like 100 videos that had it, compared to like millions on Facebook. So they essentially were lazy as fuck and nuked 11 million videos for .00001% of bad videos instead just going through abuse reports like a normal site.They burned the Library of Alexandra >_> I still haven't seen a ton of videos on any other site. Lost forever in the sands of time : (</quote>Weren't they also dealing with issues regarding too much revenge porn being posted on their site? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NeonTentacles 02/01/23 2:04:48 PM #25:	I havent heard anything of that sort --- https://imgur.com/aMaI3hj https://imgur.com/7PsdJNc https://imgur.com/eK8vZVn https://imgur.com/u2HR4nG https://imgur.com/nQGM5cZ <cite>NeonTentacles posted [p:971256038] in Was PH's m... [t:80332220]...</cite> <quote>I havent heard anything of that sort</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pogo_Marimo 02/01/23 2:07:08 PM #26:	Tyranthraxus posted... The kinds of flak they get is invisible. Fraud is insane with porn purchases and that's just the legal kind. We don't see it but they're fighting it in court all the time. If it was harder for people to call their bank and say "No I definitely did not buy Anus Annihilator 27 please charge back" then maybe PH wouldn't have had this problem. That's a pretty interesting take. --- 'Cause you know that I have no fear, ain't gonna walk into the river and disappear. I'm gonna be a powerful man. Red blood running down the broken sand. <cite>Pogo_Marimo posted [p:971256092] in Was PH's m... [t:80332220]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted... </cite><quote>The kinds of flak they get is invisible. Fraud is insane with porn purchases and that's just the legal kind. We don't see it but they're fighting it in court all the time. If it was harder for people to call their bank and say "No I definitely did not buy Anus Annihilator 27 please charge back" then maybe PH wouldn't have had this problem.</quote>That's a pretty interesting take. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NoxObscuras 02/01/23 2:08:23 PM #27:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] No, they deleted every account that didn't go through their verification process (which was over 10 million videos). It was an all or nothing approach. And as has been said, a lot of the remaining videos are 1-3 minute videos that say "full video on my OF" --- PSN - NoxObscuras Z490 \| i9-10900K \| EVGA 3080 FTW3 Ultra \| 32GB DDR4 3600 \| 4TB SSD <cite>NoxObscuras posted [p:971256125] in Was PH's m... [t:80332220]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> No, they deleted every account that didn't go through their verification process (which was over 10 million videos). It was an all or nothing approach.And as has been said, a lot of the remaining videos are 1-3 minute videos that say "full video on my OF"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 02/01/23 2:12:17 PM #29:	NoxObscuras posted... And as has been said, a lot of the remaining videos are 1-3 minute videos that say "full video on my OF" Getting "verified" on PH is roughly the same process as OF, so you may as well make some money out of it. PH itself pays its "models" terribly (if at all), which only drives more PH uploaders to OF. Really, all PH is good for anymore is lurking the blog comments for the sheer schadenfreude. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:971256213] in Was PH's m... [t:80332220]...</cite> <quote>NoxObscuras posted... </cite><quote>And as has been said, a lot of the remaining videos are 1-3 minute videos that say "full video on my OF"</quote>Getting "verified" on PH is roughly the same process as OF, so you may as well make some money out of it. PH itself pays its "models" terribly (if at all), which only drives more PH uploaders to OF.Really, all PH is good for anymore is lurking the blog comments for the sheer schadenfreude.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 02/01/23 2:13:02 PM #30:	Seems like a conservative approach is right for a streaming service that accepts uploads. Otherwise it'll very likely just be a giant repo for revenge porn and cp with plausible deniability. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:971256232] in Was PH's m... [t:80332220]...</cite> <quote>Seems like a conservative approach is right for a streaming service that accepts uploads. Otherwise it'll very likely just be a giant repo for revenge porn and cp with plausible deniability.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeonTentacles 02/01/23 2:13:35 PM #31:	Yeah it sucks that the entire site is literally just teasers for OF content now. There's no good amateur videos on the site anymore. Remember when the site used to be cool and had fun April Fools jokes and did funny statistics or did charities and such? lol --- https://imgur.com/aMaI3hj https://imgur.com/7PsdJNc https://imgur.com/eK8vZVn https://imgur.com/u2HR4nG https://imgur.com/nQGM5cZ <cite>NeonTentacles posted [p:971256243] in Was PH's m... [t:80332220]...</cite> <quote>Yeah it sucks that the entire site is literally just teasers for OF content now. There's no good amateur videos on the site anymore. Remember when the site used to be cool and had fun April Fools jokes and did funny statistics or did charities and such? lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 02/01/23 2:17:28 PM #32:	COVxy posted... Seems like a conservative approach is right for a streaming service that accepts uploads. Otherwise it'll very likely just be a giant repo for revenge porn and cp with plausible deniability. Which is a viable business model under the "safe harbor" concept. If you're "here's a video board, go nuts", all you're obligated to do is take down videos when someone complains. Once you start selling "premium" access and paying uploaders, your culpability increases substantially. "Moderation" is pretty much either an all-or-nothing under section 230. Reactive or proactive, with nothing in between. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:971256331] in Was PH's m... [t:80332220]...</cite> <quote>COVxy posted... </cite><quote>Seems like a conservative approach is right for a streaming service that accepts uploads. Otherwise it'll very likely just be a giant repo for revenge porn and cp with plausible deniability.</quote>Which is a viable business model under the "safe harbor" concept.If you're "here's a video board, go nuts", all you're obligated to do is take down videos when someone complains. Once you start selling "premium" access and paying uploaders, your culpability increases substantially."Moderation" is pretty much either an all-or-nothing under section 230. Reactive or proactive, with nothing in between.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 02/01/23 2:20:46 PM #33:	Questionmarktarius posted... Which is a viable business model under the "safe harbor" concept. If you're "here's a video board, go nuts", all you're obligated to do is take down videos when someone complains. Once you start selling "premium" access and paying uploaders, your culpability increases substantially. "Moderation" is pretty much either an all-or-nothing under section 230. Reactive or proactive, with nothing in between. I'm not really talking about the law here. Don't really care what the law states. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:971256416] in Was PH's m... [t:80332220]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite><quote>Which is a viable business model under the "safe harbor" concept.If you're "here's a video board, go nuts", all you're obligated to do is take down videos when someone complains. Once you start selling "premium" access and paying uploaders, your culpability increases substantially."Moderation" is pretty much either an all-or-nothing under section 230. Reactive or proactive, with nothing in between.</quote>I'm not really talking about the law here. Don't really care what the law states.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 02/01/23 2:21:51 PM #34:	COVxy posted... I'm not really talking about the law here. Don't really care what the law states. Nobody goes to prison for ethics violations. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:971256437] in Was PH's m... [t:80332220]...</cite> <quote>COVxy posted... </cite><quote>I'm not really talking about the law here. Don't really care what the law states.</quote>Nobody goes to prison for ethics violations.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 02/01/23 2:23:22 PM #35:	Questionmarktarius posted... Nobody goes to prison for ethics violations. Again, not talking about the law. Why are you obsessing over this? --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:971256470] in Was PH's m... [t:80332220]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite><quote>Nobody goes to prison for ethics violations.</quote>Again, not talking about the law. Why are you obsessing over this? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thronedfire2 02/01/23 2:25:46 PM #36:	it was obviously a good decision. And anyone complaining that they cant jerk it to people who may not even know their porn is online(or was recorded in the first place) is pretty sus --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... <cite>thronedfire2 posted [p:971256527] in Was PH's m... [t:80332220]...</cite> <quote>it was obviously a good decision. And anyone complaining that they cant jerk it to people who may not even know their porn is online(or was recorded in the first place) is pretty sus</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 02/01/23 2:26:34 PM #37:	COVxy posted... Again, not talking about the law. Why are you obsessing over this? ...are you serious? <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:971256548] in Was PH's m... [t:80332220]...</cite> <quote>COVxy posted... </cite><quote>Again, not talking about the law. Why are you obsessing over this?</quote>...are you serious?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 02/01/23 2:28:52 PM #38:	Questionmarktarius posted... ...are you serious? Yes, why do you think the law is what is being discussed here? --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:971256588] in Was PH's m... [t:80332220]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite><quote>...are you serious?</quote>Yes, why do you think the law is what is being discussed here?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeonTentacles 02/01/23 2:29:53 PM #39:	My favorite old video on PH was this 50 minute video of this Chinese couple fucking and it was awesome >_> I literally cant find the entire video on any other site and it saddens me. The best I found was this 10 minute cut of it but it isnt even the good part smh. --- https://imgur.com/aMaI3hj https://imgur.com/7PsdJNc https://imgur.com/eK8vZVn https://imgur.com/u2HR4nG https://imgur.com/nQGM5cZ <cite>NeonTentacles posted [p:971256609] in Was PH's m... [t:80332220]...</cite> <quote>My favorite old video on PH was this 50 minute video of this Chinese couple fucking and it was awesome >_> I literally cant find the entire video on any other site and it saddens me. The best I found was this 10 minute cut of it but it isnt even the good part smh.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 02/01/23 2:30:22 PM #40:	COVxy posted... Yes, why do you think the law is what is being discussed here? Because, Visa and Mastercard bailed out of fear of legal liability, and forced PH's hand, which then forced all the fappers' hands. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:971256621] in Was PH's m... [t:80332220]...</cite> <quote>COVxy posted... </cite><quote>Yes, why do you think the law is what is being discussed here?</quote>Because, Visa and Mastercard bailed out of fear of legal liability, and forced PH's hand, which then forced all the fappers' hands.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 02/01/23 2:32:18 PM #41:	Questionmarktarius posted... Because, Visa and Mastercard bailed out of fear of legal liability, and forced PH's hand, which then forced all the fappers' hands. The question wasn't "why did this happen?" but "was this a bad thing?" --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:971256650] in Was PH's m... [t:80332220]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite><quote>Because, Visa and Mastercard bailed out of fear of legal liability, and forced PH's hand, which then forced all the fappers' hands.</quote>The question wasn't "why did this happen?" but "was this a bad thing?"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Compsognathus 02/01/23 2:35:51 PM #42:	COVxy posted... Again, not talking about the law. Why are you obsessing over this? I mean I guarantee ethical considerations were not why PH made their decisions. They wanted to legally cover their ass. --- Gheb is my other account <cite>Compsognathus posted [p:971256719] in Was PH's m... [t:80332220]...</cite> <quote>COVxy posted... </cite><quote>Again, not talking about the law. Why are you obsessing over this?</quote>I mean I guarantee ethical considerations were not why PH made their decisions. They wanted to legally cover their ass.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeonTentacles 02/01/23 2:36:46 PM #43:	No corporation will ever care about ethics. Only the law --- https://imgur.com/aMaI3hj https://imgur.com/7PsdJNc https://imgur.com/eK8vZVn https://imgur.com/u2HR4nG https://imgur.com/nQGM5cZ <cite>NeonTentacles posted [p:971256738] in Was PH's m... [t:80332220]...</cite> <quote>No corporation will ever care about ethics. Only the law</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tappor 02/01/23 2:43:15 PM #44:	It killed the site Make what you will of that. --- I only come here when I'm at work http://error1355.com/ce/Tappor.html <cite>Tappor posted [p:971256857] in Was PH's m... [t:80332220]...</cite> <quote>It killed the siteMake what you will of that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 02/01/23 2:47:18 PM #45:	Compsognathus posted... I mean I guarantee ethical considerations were not why PH made their decisions. They wanted to legally cover their ass. The value of a decision does not need to be calculated in reference to the agent who made it. This topic was literally created by TC to ask what CE thought about this, ethically. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:971256931] in Was PH's m... [t:80332220]...</cite> <quote>Compsognathus posted... </cite><quote>I mean I guarantee ethical considerations were not why PH made their decisions. They wanted to legally cover their ass.</quote>The value of a decision does not need to be calculated in reference to the agent who made it.This topic was literally created by TC to ask what CE thought about this, ethically.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 02/01/23 2:50:03 PM #46:	NeonTentacles posted... I havent heard anything of that sort https://nypost.com/2021/06/17/lawsuit-bashes -pornhub-for-profiting-off-unconsented-sex/ https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/dec/16/pornhub-untold-damage-pain Lots of revenge porn and spycams helped lead to their content and verification changes. It wasn't all just kiddie porn. --- Who is? I am! <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:971256993] in Was PH's m... [t:80332220]...</cite> <quote>NeonTentacles posted... </cite><quote>I havent heard anything of that sort</quote>https://nypost.com/2021/06/17/lawsuit-bashes -pornhub-for-profiting-off-unconsented-sex/https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/dec/16/pornhub-untold-damage-painLots of revenge porn and spycams helped lead to their content and verification changes. It wasn't all just kiddie porn. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pogo_Marimo 02/01/23 2:59:45 PM #47:	COVxy posted... The value of a decision does not need to be calculated in reference to the agent who made it. This topic was literally created by TC to ask what CE thought about this, ethically. This is true. --- 'Cause you know that I have no fear, ain't gonna walk into the river and disappear. I'm gonna be a powerful man. Red blood running down the broken sand. <cite>Pogo_Marimo posted [p:971257180] in Was PH's m... [t:80332220]...</cite> <quote>COVxy posted... </cite><quote>The value of a decision does not need to be calculated in reference to the agent who made it.This topic was literally created by TC to ask what CE thought about this, ethically.</quote>This is true.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
party_animal07 02/01/23 3:00:53 PM #48:	In the grand scheme, they were attempting to clean up a lot of unsavory videos hosted on their site, which is a good thing, but they got rid of pretty much all of the videos i had bookmarked so...maybe? --- https://warpzone.me/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/GRANDIA_-696x509.jpg <cite>party_animal07 posted [p:971257199] in Was PH's m... [t:80332220]...</cite> <quote>In the grand scheme, they were attempting to clean up a lot of unsavory videos hosted on their site, which is a good thing, but they got rid of pretty much all of the videos i had bookmarked so...maybe?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
loafy013 02/01/23 4:15:16 PM #49:	They were never my site of choice, but it did seem to have echoes across multiple sites. The site that was my default did away with the download button around the same time. Think you still can if you are a verified user or something, but just having an account wasn't good enough anymore. --- The ball is round, the game lasts 90 minutes. That's fact. Everything else, is theory. <cite>loafy013 posted [p:971259001] in Was PH's m... [t:80332220]...</cite> <quote>They were never my site of choice, but it did seem to have echoes across multiple sites. The site that was my default did away with the download button around the same time. Think you still can if you are a verified user or something, but just having an account wasn't good enough anymore.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 02/01/23 4:20:25 PM #50:	loafy013 posted... They were never my site of choice, but it did seem to have echoes across multiple sites. The site that was my default did away with the download button around the same time. The usual harbinger of doom is when the tubesite starts gluing a vanity-card intro onto uploads. It's all downhill for there. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:971259091] in Was PH's m... [t:80332220]...</cite> <quote>loafy013 posted... </cite><quote>They were never my site of choice, but it did seem to have echoes across multiple sites. The site that was my default did away with the download button around the same time.</quote>The usual harbinger of doom is when the tubesite starts gluing a vanity-card intro onto uploads.It's all downhill for there.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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