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PunishedBen
01/31/23 7:00:57 PM
#1:


*ding dong*

The bell tolled. The rooster crowed.

Dawn of the 4th day. 0 hours remain.

JC: Wait a minute, already?! I cant die yet! I had so much I wanted to say!
Ben: Well, youre not dead yet. Go ahead and say it.
JC: Excellent. Ahem oh no now i'll never get the chance to learn what buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo means!

And after these famous last words, JCs term was over.

JC IS DEAD.

He was Mio, TOWN Doomed

In the world of Aionios, every person only lives for ten years. Sadly, your tenth term is almost up, and you only have 3 months left to live. Spend your remaining days wisely, and find your purpose and fulfillment in life.

Ability: At the start of Day 4, you will die.

You win when all threats to TOWN are eliminated

LIVING

1. Han
2. Edumey
3. Death
4. Ulti
5. Lopen
6. Hb
7. Corrik
8. IGCD
9. 5starscream
10. Chang

DEAD

1. LD1 - Plum, TOWN Stubborn Asshole
2. KN1 - Sultan, TOWN Recon
3. LD2 - SBell, CULT Recruiter
4. KN2 - Peaf, TOWN Hydraizer
5. LD3 - Red, TOWN Bodyguard
6. DN3 - JC, TOWN Doomed

IT IS NOW DAY 4. WITH 10 ALIVE IT TAKES 6 VOTES TO LYNCH. DAY ENDS THURSDAY AT 6PMCST

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changmas
01/31/23 7:03:09 PM
#2:


lopen dies today

##Vote: Lopen

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Hbthebattle
01/31/23 7:05:43 PM
#3:


What the fuck was that shit yesterday


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EDumey
01/31/23 7:06:11 PM
#4:


If I can take one thing from Town Red's posts before he was hammered with no chance to defend himself, he was mentioning end of D2 that we don't hunt for cult recruits. We hunt for scum like normal. I think this was right as my Peaf looks the most different from D1 to D2 argument was obviously wrong.
So I'd like to do some classic scum hunting by evaluating which good players have bad votes. Lopen had a good vote D1, that ended up being wrong, but I can't fault him for it, because the fault was with Plum not being forthcoming and giving up. D2 Lopen was present at the end of the day, was one of the few people who didn't vote for the cop scanned (untargettable) scum. And claims he didn't see the Plum cop scan until after day ended. So his excuse is he just walked away from the thread at deadline. D3 he knowingly puts Red at -2 halfway through the day. MAYBE if I'm being VERY CHARITABLE, I could say he was putting Red at -2 to see who jumped on after him, but he caught Corrik of all people. Then he acknowledges again that Red is at -1 and does not unvote. Then IGCD hammers out of nowhere. I understand you all are going to give Corrik a free pass for some reason, but Lopen not unvoting there reads REALLY bad to me. What are the chances of the strong player to have two bad votes in a row, and the only lynch he wasn't on was the scum lynch?

##Vote: Lopen

Obviously IGCD looks worse though. Chang, I hope you see now why I was harping on you for a cold vote, because IGCD one-upped you on that one.

##Unvote:
##Vote: IGCD

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htaeD
01/31/23 7:07:09 PM
#5:


Surprised I am still alive. But I am glad I stayed up. Real tired tho, so I wont beat around the bush.

Scanned Corrik, didnt like anyone on that vote rush at the end but I was worried IGCD was baiting me to get me to scan him or something. So I went with him instead.

Corrik is town.

Also, boy was that topic title for day 3 accurate or what?

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EDumey
01/31/23 7:07:46 PM
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oh well i guess that's why we'll give corrik a free pass

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htaeD
01/31/23 7:08:55 PM
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I will also share one thought I had tonight.
Why did IGCD hammer?
Was it to stop Lopen from clarifying whatever his claim was??? (Keeping me in the dark about whether or not I should scan Lopen???)
I may be making that too personal though.

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htaeD
01/31/23 7:11:03 PM
#8:


Anyway

##Vote: IGCD

Dont put him at -1, I dont know if this game allows selfvotes.
Do make him explain himself in full.

Goodnight

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Hbthebattle
01/31/23 7:11:04 PM
#9:


There will be mechanics in this game that could punish scum all rushing on and hammering someone to try and end the game in MYLO/LYLO, or trying to end day early
Notice that there wasnt a shot last night.

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EDumey
01/31/23 7:11:40 PM
#10:


The one thing I'm unsure of with the IGCD hammer is that scum was specifically warned with the setup that trying to end days early and hammering would come with consequences. Just bad or do they know about something we don't about what that means?

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EDumey
01/31/23 7:12:08 PM
#11:


Don't ninja post me HB :(

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Lopen
01/31/23 7:15:27 PM
#12:


##Vote: IGCD

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changmas
01/31/23 7:16:58 PM
#13:


Lopen posted...
##Vote: IGCD

that's all you have to say for yourself?

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Lopen
01/31/23 7:17:46 PM
#14:


I don't need to explain anything. I didn't do anything wrong yesterday.

I didn't want Red hammered there either-- but I know full well Red won't respond to anything less than -1.

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EDumey
01/31/23 7:18:55 PM
#15:


I find that to be a very lazy excuse. Even if that were true, I would expect you to at least wait for him to be present before putting him to -1.

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Lopen
01/31/23 7:20:22 PM
#16:


Nope. I've played with Red many many many times before. If he's not at -1 it doesn't matter. You put him at -2 and it won't work. Hell -1 might not even work, but it's completely lame that we can't even blame Red for playing badly.

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Hbthebattle
01/31/23 7:21:21 PM
#17:


He wasnt even there
If youre Town this is complete indefensible

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EDumey
01/31/23 7:21:26 PM
#18:


That's true, but I'm still willing to blame more than just IGCD.

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changmas
01/31/23 7:21:54 PM
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PunishedBen posted...
Great Votal Falls

[6]Red - Han, Dumey, Ulti, JC, Lopen, Corrik

Lopen posted...
If red is scum note this train lacks Chang. It also lacks IGCD who if town is heavy handed with his vote generally iirc

you were doing mental gymnastics to blame me once again

and goaded IGCD into hammering too

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Lopen
01/31/23 7:22:19 PM
#20:


There is no harm whatsoever in putting him to -1. I was repeatedly saying the tally for a reason.

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Lopen
01/31/23 7:22:57 PM
#21:


changmas posted...
and goaded IGCD into hammering too

So you think IGCD is town then?

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changmas
01/31/23 7:24:14 PM
#22:


i think it's at least possible which is not the case for you

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Lopen
01/31/23 7:24:31 PM
#23:


It's pretty much gotta be IGCD, Chang, and Ulti.

Edumey you want to lynch me tomorrow to punish me you go right ahead. The game is easy at this point.

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changmas
01/31/23 7:24:57 PM
#24:


world champion in mental gymnastics right here

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Lopen
01/31/23 7:26:17 PM
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Town never hammers that. You saying it's more possible for IGCD to be town than me is your scum showing.

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changmas
01/31/23 7:27:00 PM
#26:


you were literally sitting there on -1 begging two of us to vote!!

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EDumey
01/31/23 7:28:37 PM
#27:


Lopen posted...
There is no harm whatsoever in putting him to -1.
Sure there is. The harm is that you give us a situation where we lose half a day of discussion, especially when we have several low effort players that apparently only care about playing the game in the last hour of the day and don't contribute besides an honorary check-in before that.

##Unvote:

I'm gonna do this for now since I have to go do some preplanned raid stuff with some friends, and I don't want Ulti or someone randomly coming in and piling on votes.

Lopen posted...
It's pretty much gotta be IGCD, Chang, and Ulti.

Edumey you want to lynch me tomorrow to punish me you go right ahead. The game is easy at this point.
Unfortunately I think this is the path that's been set. I don't really see a world where we lynch you before IGCD unless he had a damn good reason for hammering. And just that alone makes me kind of want to flip the script.

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Lopen
01/31/23 7:28:41 PM
#28:


I wasn't begging for you to vote lol

I was literally saying "we wait till he claims then hammer if the claim is bad"

I said "if he's scum, you two look bad" but he wasn't scum-- the whole premise of IGCD being "goaded" into voting is absurd.

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Lopen
01/31/23 7:33:41 PM
#29:


Anyway yeah really not interested in arguing with scum Chang. And if IGCD is town I don't really care if we lose anyway. If you want to save lynches Death, you can scan me tonight. I'm not actually miller.

I am

That 2 Hours Long Cutscene At The End of Chapter 5, TOWN Uninterrupted Bulletproof

I am bulletproof until targeted by a non-killing night action. I claimed miller (in addition to doing it as homage to Ben's absurd claims) in hopes town would not target me. However I was targeted Night 2 by something and as such am no longer Bulletproof.

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changmas
01/31/23 7:33:46 PM
#30:


town
1. Han
3. Death
4. Ulti
6. Hb
7. Corrik
9. 5starscream
10. Chang

scum
2. Edumey
5. Lopen
8. IGCD

oh wait it's literally this simple

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Lopen
01/31/23 7:39:26 PM
#31:


As for why it's Ulti, look at my POE on the recruit.

Well I guess it could be GF Han/Corrik and not Ulti, which would suck, but oh well.

Whatever. I'm fine with playing the percentages here.

Actually Death you should scan Ulti-- people are just going to say I'm GF anyway lol

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Lopen
01/31/23 7:43:07 PM
#32:


So I guess the possibility exists that Edumey is actually the recruit

Edumey fearing Peaf and killing him as a result would make sense. Maybe SBell wanted a non-traditional recruit to create and endgame state where we're all expecting players that are traditionally hard to lynch to be the recruit.

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Lopen
01/31/23 7:43:55 PM
#33:


Chang rule of 3ing his suspect list makes more sense though.

Ulti x IGCD x Chang just makes more sense.

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EDumey
01/31/23 7:45:11 PM
#34:


changmas posted...
town
1. Han
3. Death
4. Ulti
6. Hb
7. Corrik
9. 5starscream
10. Chang

scum
2. Edumey
5. Lopen
8. IGCD

oh wait it's literally this simple
It's one think to say that you think I've bussed one scum mate. Maybe even think I've bussed two. But if you're really thinking I bussed every single scum mate, that's ridiculous. Obviously I know I'm town, but something is really wrong with your PoE here.

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Lopen
01/31/23 7:45:52 PM
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EDumey posted...
Obviously I know I'm town, but something is really wrong with your PoE here.

He's scum. His POE doesn't follow a process.

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Corrik7
01/31/23 7:49:24 PM
#36:


Hbthebattle posted...
What the fuck was that shit yesterday
Fun lol

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Lopen
01/31/23 7:51:31 PM
#37:


My scum list however follows a process

  1. IGCD - Claimed scum yesterday
  2. Chang - Pocketed Han with a lengthy discussion on cult only setup that he would have only been able to figure out with a perspective slip. Notice this so called town neighborizer still hasn't claimed either.
  3. Ulti - Pretty much a given by how the recruiter works. You want to recruit a target that is hard to lynch. Han, Corrik, me, and Ulti are all notoriously difficult to lynch and I think SBell would default to someone he has a lot of experience playing with that was considered reasonably townish. Corrik and Han were scanned town-- yeah GF is possible but whatever.



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Lopen
01/31/23 7:51:49 PM
#38:


Corrik7 posted...
Fun lol

Did you think that was fun? Honestly?

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IfGodCouldDie
01/31/23 7:52:55 PM
#39:


htaeD posted...
I will also share one thought I had tonight.
Why did IGCD hammer?
Was it to stop Lopen from clarifying whatever his claim was??? (Keeping me in the dark about whether or not I should scan Lopen???)
I may be making that too personal though.
Because Corrik brings out the rapscallion in me.

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IfGodCouldDie
01/31/23 7:53:17 PM
#40:


htaeD posted...
Anyway

##Vote: IGCD

Dont put him at -1, I dont know if this game allows selfvotes.
Do make him explain himself in full.

Goodnight
It doesn't, Ben specifically said so.

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EDumey
01/31/23 7:55:49 PM
#41:


can i request a power to revive plum so plum can vote for igcd again? i will give up my vote to do so.

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IfGodCouldDie
01/31/23 7:57:52 PM
#42:


Lopen posted...
Town never hammers that. You saying it's more possible for IGCD to be town than me is your scum showing.
I mean, I am town and I hammered that so this post is demonstrably false. Lopen is doing the thing scum does to me when they think I've put myself into a fine spot to be mislynched. Lopen acting like this is completely out of my wheelhouse as town when he very much has gotten pushed off at me for the same kind of plays before is very telling.

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IfGodCouldDie
01/31/23 7:58:44 PM
#43:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
when he very much has gotten pushed off at me for the same kind of plays before is very telling.
Should read "pissed off at me"

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Lopen
01/31/23 7:59:50 PM
#44:


No

That's not the same kind of play

That's not what a town player thinks is actually fun

Zerg rushing votes to hammer is fun but not when they're not there. You completely ruined my fun because I was looking forward to gloating at Red for sucking at the game when he didn't claim.

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IfGodCouldDie
01/31/23 8:00:23 PM
#45:


Lopen posted...
Chang rule of 3ing his suspect list makes more sense though.

Ulti x IGCD x Chang just makes more sense.
You keep saying that but have provided no reasoning for it.

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Lopen
01/31/23 8:02:26 PM
#46:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
You keep saying that but have provided no reasoning for it.

Lol

IGCD is not this bad at the game. This is scum showing.

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Lopen
01/31/23 8:08:43 PM
#47:


Corrik7

You've been given 3 days are you going to play the game now?

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Lopen
01/31/23 8:09:43 PM
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Corrik7 posted...
Im not scum. See you day 4.

It's day 4

Please play the game now.

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Lopen
01/31/23 8:11:41 PM
#49:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
when he very much has gotten pushed off at me for the same kind of plays before is very telling.

Wait so this meant "pissed off?"

When? I'm pretty sure I literally never have gotten pissed off at you for such plays. Name one time.

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Corrik7
01/31/23 8:16:40 PM
#50:


Lopen posted...
It's day 4

Please play the game now.
Damn. I was hoping you would be dead now so you wouldn't bring this up.

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