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WingsOfGood 01/27/23 11:09:00 AM #1: |
Fyi their own idiocy with Magic 30 and product fatigue lead to weaker Q4 because their customer base was angry and tired of their bullshit. See the D&D debacle for example. But instead of can the idiots at the top they layoff other people and shift the blame. https://www.cnbc.com/2023/01/26/hasbro-stock-tanks-as-company-cuts-jobs-warns-of-weak-fourth-quarter.html Hasbro aid Thursday it would eliminate around 1,000 employee positions and warned of weak holiday-quarter results. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WingsOfGood 01/27/23 11:12:24 AM #2: |
For reference Bank of America even called them out on their bullshit in November and after this they shoved their fingers in their ears and doubled down. https://www.cnbc.com/2022/11/14/bank-of-america-says-hasbro-could-fall-34percent-as-company-kills-magic-the-gathering-card-game.html ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Shotgunnova 01/27/23 11:14:05 AM #3: |
WingsOfGood posted... Despite strong growth in Wizards of the Coast and Digital Gaming, Hasbro Pulse, and our licensing business, our Consumer Products business underperformed in the fourth quarter against the backdrop of a challenging holiday consumer environment, said Hasbro CEO Chris c***s.https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/0/2/AABhrNAAEIO-.jpg --- Take me down from the ridge where the summer ends And watch the city spread out just like a jet's flame ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AldousIsDead 01/27/23 11:14:46 AM #4: |
Get fucked Hasbro. I ain't buying. --- In simplicity, utility. Through utility, simplicity. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Alucard188 01/27/23 11:15:36 AM #5: |
When companies succeed, execs get the accolades. When companies lose, the workers take the losses. --- Face it Cloud is a gaming icon and has appered in lots of games while mario has only appeared in 2 games sunshine and 64~xSlashbomBx ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WingsOfGood 01/27/23 11:15:44 AM #6: |
AldousIsDead posted... Get fucked Hasbro. I ain't buying. you obstacle between them and THEIR money!! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 01/27/23 11:16:14 AM #7: |
Make Megatron a Gun Again MMAGA! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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A_Good_Boy 01/27/23 11:17:12 AM #8: |
Hasbro? More like Hasbeen! --- Who is? I am! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EmbraceOfDeath 01/27/23 11:17:29 AM #9: |
WingsOfGood posted... For reference Bank of America even called them out on their bullshit in November and after this they shoved their fingers in their ears and doubled down.Again, that wasn't product fatigue. BoA was saying that they were printing too many copies of each card so those cards were not artificially scarce and were unsuitable as investment items. Everyone who actually plays the game and doesn't want to just sell the cards for a profit is happy with that. Stop trying to spin it. --- No more shall man have wings to bear him to paradise. Henceforth, he shall walk. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bio1590 01/27/23 11:17:56 AM #10: |
Shotgunnova posted...
Can we talk about the fact you have the profanity filter on --- https://i.imgur.com/bbRWLI8.gif https://i.imgur.com/A0BErSV.jpg https://i.imgur.com/S1m3po4.jpg https://i.imgur.com/7fCcfko.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Fable 01/27/23 11:19:04 AM #11: |
Yeah fuck hasbro tbh --- Spirits sing of a powerful creature that rules over all that is mystic. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Giant_Aspirin 01/27/23 11:19:10 AM #12: |
Alucard188 posted... When companies succeed, execs get the accolades. When companies lose, the workers take the losses. CEOs demand to be paid 2,000x what the workers make because "all the responsibility!", but when shit hits the fan because of bad decisions, or illegal shit, suddenly they had no idea what was happening (and are not responsible to, either). --- Playing: The Last of Us Part II I hope something good happens to you today ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jump_Fangirl 01/27/23 11:19:11 AM #13: |
I know everyone's mad about the D&D thing but as a toy company looking at Q4 isn't the only thing they care about physical toys for children that moved during Christmas? I imagine the majority of the important metrics in Q4 is stuff like Transformers and Power Rangers that wound up under a Christmas tree. Some 40 year old buying a pack of magic cards or a D&D book wouldn't let the time of year dictate that choice nearly as much. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mew 01/27/23 11:19:37 AM #14: |
A_Good_Boy posted... Hasbro? More like Hasbeen! --- https://gfycat.com/tensescarygermanshepherd ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Giant_Aspirin 01/27/23 11:19:53 AM #15: |
Bio1590 posted... Can we talk about the fact you have the profanity filter on pretty sure that's a censor bypass because it's showing the first and last letter .... --- Playing: The Last of Us Part II I hope something good happens to you today ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TMOG 01/27/23 11:20:32 AM #16: |
Hasbro? More like Hasbroke ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 01/27/23 11:20:33 AM #17: |
EmbraceOfDeath posted... Again, that wasn't product fatigue. BoA was saying that they were printing too many copies of each card so those cards were not artificially scarce and were unsuitable as investment items. Everyone who actually plays the game and doesn't want to just sell the cards for a profit is happy with that. Stop trying to spin it.Has any card printed since 1994 gotten even close to "valuable"? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WingsOfGood 01/27/23 11:21:34 AM #18: |
EmbraceOfDeath posted... Again, that wasn't product fatigue. BoA was saying that they were printing too many copies of each card so those cards were not artificially scarce and were unsuitable as investment items. Everyone who actually plays the game and doesn't want to just sell the cards for a profit is happy with that. Stop trying to spin it. bro the reason there is too many copies is there was so many products did you not know set boxes for every release has reprints? also the idea that no one who plays the game cares means you don't look too much into how tcg works. packs have to be worth opening or stores don't sell singles guess what happens when stores don't sell singles and packs are still a loss even with god pulls? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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voldothegr8 01/27/23 11:21:54 AM #19: |
Jump_Fangirl posted... I know everyone's mad about the D&D thing but as a toy company looking at Q4 isn't the only thing they care about physical toys for children that moved during Christmas? I imagine the majority of the important metrics in Q4 is stuff like Transformers and Power Rangers that wound up under a Christmas tree. Some 40 year old buying a pack of magic cards or a D&D book wouldn't let the time of year dictate that choice nearly as much.Yeah, the article specifically states the D&D division is booming. Wizards of the Coast, which includes Dungeons and Dragons, Magic: The Gathering and digital gaming, will remain a bright spot, the toymaker said. The company expects the division to have generated $339 million in revenue during the fourth quarter, up 22% compared to last year, and reach $1.33 billion in revenue for the full year, up 3% from 2021. --- Oda break tracker 2022- 13 (3) | THE Ohio State:11-1 | Las Vegas Raiders: 6-9 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WingsOfGood 01/27/23 11:23:05 AM #20: |
Jump_Fangirl posted... I know everyone's mad about the D&D thing but as a toy company looking at Q4 isn't the only thing they care about physical toys for children that moved during Christmas? I imagine the majority of the important metrics in Q4 is stuff like Transformers and Power Rangers that wound up under a Christmas tree. Some 40 year old buying a pack of magic cards or a D&D book wouldn't let the time of year dictate that choice nearly as much. wotc makes like 70% of their revenue or some ridiculous number like that their toy aspect is basically not important ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WingsOfGood 01/27/23 11:28:23 AM #21: |
fyi https://icv2.com/articles/news/view/47698/wotc-makes-more-money-hasbros-toy-business
Hasbro hitting its mark Q4 was UNRELATED to toys. It was mtg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jump_Fangirl 01/27/23 11:28:33 AM #22: |
WingsOfGood posted... wotc makes like 70% of their revenue or some ridiculous number like that32% of their revenue is Wizards of the Coast and all Digital gaming combined, which includes D&D PDFs and other games, according to their Q3 Report. Don't get me wrong that's a big percent but again not even close to 70% and I imagine in Q4 because of the holidays the gap will widen. https://investor.hasbro.com/news-releases/news-release-details/hasbro-reports-third-quarter-financial-results ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 01/27/23 11:28:55 AM #23: |
I know dudes who work at Hasbro and Wizards (UK based not US) and this makes me sad It's not the employees, they hate this shit too, probably more than you do It's the higher ups who have no product knowledge or love who send the marching orders. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DuneMan 01/27/23 11:31:21 AM #24: |
Hasbro is about to be Hastroubles once D&D implodes and they lose a giant chunk of that WotC money. --- "I'd rather betray the world than let the world betray me." -Cao Cao ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WingsOfGood 01/27/23 11:32:16 AM #25: |
UnfairRepresent posted... It's not the employees, they hate this s*** too, probably more than you do well of course they the ones who lost their job or their buddy ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The_X_Dawg 01/27/23 11:32:49 AM #26: |
Marvel Legends: -$20 figures 2 years ago, $26-36 now -removed plastic from packaging to "go green" (i.e. reduce cost) -reusing molds from 11 years ago, skipping paint applications -quality control no longer exists Fuck Hasbro. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 01/27/23 11:34:50 AM #27: |
WingsOfGood posted... well of course they the ones who lost their job or their buddyWell yeah lol But I meant the shitty businsess practices. Dedicate 20 years of your life to Magic The Gathering, it's growth, fostering a fanbase, developing a worldwide brand and reputation... just to have some suit run in with a chainsaw and go ham on everything is heartbreaking. it's like when Earthquakes and sinkholes just destroy family houses --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 01/27/23 11:35:59 AM #28: |
I have no regrets over paying too much for the Bob Ross lands. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jump_Fangirl 01/27/23 11:36:16 AM #29: |
The_X_Dawg posted... Marvel Legends: I thought the new packages was due to regulations in Asia? It's a shame because their Power Ranger toys QC is SO BAD. I can't buy any closed back figure from them unless it's a character I really, really love. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 01/27/23 11:37:02 AM #30: |
[wrong thread, derp] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The_X_Dawg 01/27/23 11:46:22 AM #31: |
Jump_Fangirl posted... I thought the new packages was due to regulations in Asia? It's a shame because their Power Ranger toys QC is SO BAD. I can't buy any closed back figure from them unless it's a character I really, really love. Nope. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TopGoats 01/27/23 12:28:12 PM #32: |
https://www.wargamer.com/pathfinder/sales-rise-dnd-ogl Meanwhile at pathfinder hq. --- End of passion play, crumbling away I'm your source of self-destruction ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DuneMan 01/27/23 12:48:38 PM #33: |
Yeah, Pathfinder even did a 25% off sale to match the money Wizards wanted to take from content creators. --- "I'd rather betray the world than let the world betray me." -Cao Cao ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WingsOfGood 01/27/23 1:03:15 PM #34: |
Jump_Fangirl posted... I know everyone's mad about the D&D thing but as a toy company looking at Q4 isn't the only thing they care about physical toys for children that moved during Christmas? I imagine the majority of the important metrics in Q4 is stuff like Transformers and Power Rangers that wound up under a Christmas tree. Some 40 year old buying a pack of magic cards or a D&D book wouldn't let the time of year dictate that choice nearly as much. TopGoats posted... https://www.wargamer.com/pathfinder/sales-rise-dnd-ogl wait so who is right? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AldousIsDead 01/27/23 6:35:40 PM #35: |
https://gizmodo.com/dungeons-dragons-will-no-longer-deauthorize-its-open-1850041837 Well that's an outcome, certainly. --- In simplicity, utility. Through utility, simplicity. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Shotgunnova 01/27/23 7:20:49 PM #36: |
Oh, Wizards is backtracking on the OGL stuff? Nice. Bio1590 posted... Can we talk about the fact you have the profanity filter onYeah, I always forget to take it off. It's been like that for years, haha. --- Take me down from the ridge where the summer ends And watch the city spread out just like a jet's flame ... Copied to Clipboard!
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