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Orestes417 01/22/23 12:36:39 PM #51:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Can't take having your world view taken apart. Too bad. --- "The truth may be out there, but the lies are inside your head." Terry Pratchett <cite>Orestes417 posted [p:971015041] in 10 people ... [t:80320413]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Can't take having your world view taken apart. Too bad. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Orestes417 01/22/23 12:39:31 PM #53:	Then by all means explicate how you think a chunk of metal and plastic is causing anyone to do anything. I'd like to hear it. The contorted logic might be useful for my next traffic ticket. "Well officer, the car made me go 60 in a 20" --- "The truth may be out there, but the lies are inside your head." Terry Pratchett <cite>Orestes417 posted [p:971015082] in 10 people ... [t:80320413]...</cite> <quote>Then by all means explicate how you think a chunk of metal and plastic is causing anyone to do anything. I'd like to hear it. The contorted logic might be useful for my next traffic ticket. "Well officer, the car made me go 60 in a 20"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NoxObscuras 01/22/23 12:40:46 PM #54:	Wow, this hits close to home. I'm in that area all the time. RIP to the victims and my condolences to the families. What a shitty start to lunar new year. --- PSN - NoxObscuras Z490 \| i9-10900K \| EVGA 3080 FTW3 Ultra \| 32GB DDR4 3600 \| 4TB SSD <cite>NoxObscuras posted [p:971015104] in 10 people ... [t:80320413]...</cite> <quote>Wow, this hits close to home. I'm in that area all the time. RIP to the victims and my condolences to the families. What a shitty start to lunar new year. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Orestes417 01/22/23 12:46:56 PM #56:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] If there were no guns we'd be living in fantasy land. It's not a useful notion to any form of reality and never will be. Not as long as humans can build tools and have basic knowledge of Newtonian physics. You'd have to get close to achieving the fantasy land of the first part to make much of an impact. Here's the kicker. Even if you did get there you're reducing gun violence, not violence in general. Is it worth stripping fundamental rights to have a different inanimate object to blame for broken people doing what broken people are going to do? Do you think the guy who's serious ideating on murdering a crowd of people is going to stop because they can't get a firearm? If only. --- "The truth may be out there, but the lies are inside your head." Terry Pratchett <cite>Orestes417 posted [p:971015211] in 10 people ... [t:80320413]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> If there were no guns we'd be living in fantasy land. It's not a useful notion to any form of reality and never will be. Not as long as humans can build tools and have basic knowledge of Newtonian physics.You'd have to get close to achieving the fantasy land of the first part to make much of an impact.Here's the kicker. Even if you did get there you're reducing gun violence, not violence in general. Is it worth stripping fundamental rights to have a different inanimate object to blame for broken people doing what broken people are going to do? Do you think the guy who's serious ideating on murdering a crowd of people is going to stop because they can't get a firearm? If only.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Orestes417 01/22/23 12:57:04 PM #58:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] We could sure. But it would very likely not have the result you're fantasizing it would. Most of those guns would be taken from people who were never the problem in the first place. [LFAQs-redacted-quote] If you wanted to be exceedingly morbid I could walk you through numerous scenarios that yield a much higher body count than just guns. Ever seen a massacre with a hatchet against unarmed and unsuspecting people in a closed area? It ain't pretty. [LFAQs-redacted-quote] You keep saying that as if you're qualified to be the arbiter of such things. --- "The truth may be out there, but the lies are inside your head." Terry Pratchett <cite>Orestes417 posted [p:971015373] in 10 people ... [t:80320413]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> We could sure. But it would very likely not have the result you're fantasizing it would. Most of those guns would be taken from people who were never the problem in the first place. <cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> If you wanted to be exceedingly morbid I could walk you through numerous scenarios that yield a much higher body count than just guns. Ever seen a massacre with a hatchet against unarmed and unsuspecting people in a closed area? It ain't pretty.<cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> You keep saying that as if you're qualified to be the arbiter of such things.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 01/22/23 12:59:50 PM #59:	It's that time again where the only solution some people have to mass shootings is to scream "it's not the guns" and then dust off their hands. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png he/him/they/them <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:971015416] in 10 people ... [t:80320413]...</cite> <quote>It's that time again where the only solution some people have to mass shootings is to scream "it's not the guns" and then dust off their hands.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thronedfire2 01/22/23 1:00:30 PM #60:	People need to stop acting like the constitution is infallible when the guys who wrote it didnt even believe black people were human beings. the biggest argument against gun control is that we need guns to protect ourselves from criminals. More guns is not a long term solution, especially since the good guy with a gun scenario plays out only about 1/1000th of the time --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... <cite>thronedfire2 posted [p:971015426] in 10 people ... [t:80320413]...</cite> <quote>People need to stop acting like the constitution is infallible when the guys who wrote it didnt even believe black people were human beings. the biggest argument against gun control is that we need guns to protect ourselves from criminals. More guns is not a long term solution, especially since the good guy with a gun scenario plays out only about 1/1000th of the time </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 01/22/23 1:00:52 PM #61:	Orestes417 posted... You keep saying that as if you're qualified to be the arbiter of such things. Would you respect it if those qualified to be the arbiter of such things changed the 2nd Amendment? --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png he/him/they/them <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:971015433] in 10 people ... [t:80320413]...</cite> <quote>Orestes417 posted... </cite><quote>You keep saying that as if you're qualified to be the arbiter of such things.</quote>Would you respect it if those qualified to be the arbiter of such things changed the 2nd Amendment?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Orestes417 01/22/23 1:02:44 PM #62:	hockeybub89 posted... Would you respect it if those qualified to be the arbiter of such things changed the 2nd Amendment? Sure, if you could find any. The last 20 years or so I don't think that species still exists. Certainly not in Congress currently. I wouldn't trust those clowns to make Kraft dinner let alone make responsible choices that will last for centuries after they're dust. thronedfire2 posted... the biggest argument against gun control is that we need guns to protect ourselves from criminals. More guns is not a long term solution, especially since the good guy with a gun scenario plays out only about 1/1000th of the time Let's be real clear. Gun control and gun bans are NOT the same argument. The former is useful, and possibly the best short term option if implemented properly nation wide. The latter is a waste of everyone's time. --- "The truth may be out there, but the lies are inside your head." Terry Pratchett <cite>Orestes417 posted [p:971015466] in 10 people ... [t:80320413]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite><quote>Would you respect it if those qualified to be the arbiter of such things changed the 2nd Amendment?</quote>Sure, if you could find any. The last 20 years or so I don't think that species still exists. Certainly not in Congress currently. I wouldn't trust those clowns to make Kraft dinner let alone make responsible choices that will last for centuries after they're dust. thronedfire2 posted... </cite><quote>the biggest argument against gun control is that we need guns to protect ourselves from criminals. More guns is not a long term solution, especially since the good guy with a gun scenario plays out only about 1/1000th of the time</quote>Let's be real clear. Gun control and gun bans are NOT the same argument. The former is useful, and possibly the best short term option if implemented properly nation wide. The latter is a waste of everyone's time.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cocytus 01/22/23 1:05:16 PM #64:	Well what's that one bill of rights that says you don't have to shelter soldiers in your house, like the 3rd or something? Who the hell needs that shit anymore? Just sayin'. <cite>Cocytus posted [p:971015506] in 10 people ... [t:80320413]...</cite> <quote>Well what's that one bill of rights that says you don't have to shelter soldiers in your house, like the 3rd or something? Who the hell needs that shit anymore? Just sayin'.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Orestes417 01/22/23 1:09:55 PM #66:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Severely doubtful given that almost all the guns you'd be removing aren't from the people you really don't want to have guns. Basically all you accomplish is making a bigger black market and making it harder, if not impossible, to trace the guns that will be used in crimes before the crime happens. Oh and your harmless neighbour down the street has to give up his collection. Real great tradeoff there. Super return on value. --- "The truth may be out there, but the lies are inside your head." Terry Pratchett <cite>Orestes417 posted [p:971015575] in 10 people ... [t:80320413]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Severely doubtful given that almost all the guns you'd be removing aren't from the people you really don't want to have guns. Basically all you accomplish is making a bigger black market and making it harder, if not impossible, to trace the guns that will be used in crimes before the crime happens. Oh and your harmless neighbour down the street has to give up his collection. Real great tradeoff there. Super return on value.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Orestes417 01/22/23 1:14:42 PM #68:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] The government's had power to investigate black market drug trade for decades. Remind me how that one has worked out again? I mean the supply of cocaine from the cartels surely dried up after a year or two yeah? What? You mean it's actually really fucking hard to stop product you have no way of tracking and little way of even knowing about from being sold? And what else you say? By increasing that market's power and killing legal means of acquisition you're throwing away opportunities to screen people as they attempt to buy? Here's how it plays out in reality. Legal owners take the L hard so you can pat yourself on the back and say the only guns left are the problematic ones and we're not sure where they are". GG --- "The truth may be out there, but the lies are inside your head." Terry Pratchett <cite>Orestes417 posted [p:971015649] in 10 people ... [t:80320413]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> The government's had power to investigate black market drug trade for decades. Remind me how that one has worked out again? I mean the supply of cocaine from the cartels surely dried up after a year or two yeah? What? You mean it's actually really fucking hard to stop product you have no way of tracking and little way of even knowing about from being sold? And what else you say? By increasing that market's power and killing legal means of acquisition you're throwing away opportunities to screen people as they attempt to buy?Here's how it plays out in reality. Legal owners take the L hard so you can pat yourself on the back and say the only guns left are the problematic ones and we're not sure where they are". GG</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Orestes417 01/22/23 2:54:37 PM #71:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Is someone just a bit naive about how easy it is to produce a gun? Like I said, a quiet afternoon in my backyard workshop would open some of your eyes real wide. There's nothing magic about it, you can't justifiably ban the tools required and you sure as hell can't stop people from buying raw metal. And that's not even taking into account the new generation of 3d printed guns. Hell, you hang out in certain 3d printing boards and you hear stories of how folks in Madagascar are fighting guerilla wars with those things. --- "The truth may be out there, but the lies are inside your head." Terry Pratchett <cite>Orestes417 posted [p:971017363] in 10 people ... [t:80320413]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Is someone just a bit naive about how easy it is to produce a gun? Like I said, a quiet afternoon in my backyard workshop would open some of your eyes real wide. There's nothing magic about it, you can't justifiably ban the tools required and you sure as hell can't stop people from buying raw metal. And that's not even taking into account the new generation of 3d printed guns. Hell, you hang out in certain 3d printing boards and you hear stories of how folks in Madagascar are fighting guerilla wars with those things.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
brestugo 01/22/23 2:55:46 PM #72:	https://abc7.com/ Standoff with shooter. Live local feed --- Putin delenda est <cite>brestugo posted [p:971017387] in 10 people ... [t:80320413]...</cite> <quote>https://abc7.com/Standoff with shooter.Live local feed</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 01/22/23 2:55:59 PM #73:	I sure hope Orestes is pro-legalization of all drugs. Honestly, why have any laws since people will break them? --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png he/him/they/them <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:971017389] in 10 people ... [t:80320413]...</cite> <quote>I sure hope Orestes is pro-legalization of all drugs.Honestly, why have any laws since people will break them?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Orestes417 01/22/23 2:58:05 PM #75:	hockeybub89 posted... I sure hope Orestes is pro-legalization of all drugs. Honestly, why have any laws since people will break them? I'm pro-decriminalization of many of them. It's a medical problem, not a legal one. Might as well shift tactics to something with a better chance of working with a good outcome. [LFAQs-redacted-quote] Oh no, don't mistake what I'm saying. I brought up 3d printed guns later but when I talk about my workshop containing no special tools I'm talking about straight up building you a 0 percent receiver and assembling a gun over the course of a few hours while you watch. It isn't secret information, it's not something that's hard to accomplish and it's probably more common than you think in practice. --- "The truth may be out there, but the lies are inside your head." Terry Pratchett <cite>Orestes417 posted [p:971017420] in 10 people ... [t:80320413]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite><quote>I sure hope Orestes is pro-legalization of all drugs.Honestly, why have any laws since people will break them?</quote>I'm pro-decriminalization of many of them. It's a medical problem, not a legal one. Might as well shift tactics to something with a better chance of working with a good outcome.<cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Oh no, don't mistake what I'm saying. I brought up 3d printed guns later but when I talk about my workshop containing no special tools I'm talking about straight up building you a 0 percent receiver and assembling a gun over the course of a few hours while you watch. It isn't secret information, it's not something that's hard to accomplish and it's probably more common than you think in practice.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kloe_Rinz 01/22/23 2:58:32 PM #76:	Orestes417 posted... And you still haven't explained how you think the argument presented in the post I replied to and what I actually said got conflated in your head. You also seem to have this notion that I'm arguing against gun control instead of for it. No. I'm arguing against dumb fucks who think they can wave a wand and put the genie back in the bottle with a ban. It'd take a Saturday afternoon in my backyard workshop to show you exactly how toothless your "ban" would be to folks who don't care about legality. Y'know, people like the sort who get radicalized by media or are mentally unstable and go shoot up public gatherings. You don't like reality? Tough shit. Reality doesn't care. If you want to fix things, you have to focus on the root issues. You arent making any progress towards solving the root issues either and never will. This isnt an issue you people even want to solve, otherwise an attempt would be made. This is more about you not losing your precious guns which is somehow more important. <cite>Kloe_Rinz posted [p:971017426] in 10 people ... [t:80320413]...</cite> <quote>Orestes417 posted... </cite><quote>And you still haven't explained how you think the argument presented in the post I replied to and what I actually said got conflated in your head. You also seem to have this notion that I'm arguing against gun control instead of for it. No. I'm arguing against dumb fucks who think they can wave a wand and put the genie back in the bottle with a ban. It'd take a Saturday afternoon in my backyard workshop to show you exactly how toothless your "ban" would be to folks who don't care about legality. Y'know, people like the sort who get radicalized by media or are mentally unstable and go shoot up public gatherings. You don't like reality? Tough shit. Reality doesn't care. If you want to fix things, you have to focus on the root issues. </quote>You arent making any progress towards solving the root issues either and never will. This isnt an issue you people even want to solve, otherwise an attempt would be made. This is more about you not losing your precious guns which is somehow more important. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Orestes417 01/22/23 3:05:24 PM #78:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] No I'm not bragging. I'm stating an absolute fact. Anyone with the right, pretty common and not at all specific to gunmaking, tools could produce one. Many manufacturers out there today started as one or two guys in a shop behind their house. Legally. Non-gun people have some REALLY stupid notions in their head about the difficulty of making and procuring things. Just like they have some really stupid ideas about how legal licensing works. Kloe_Rinz posted... You arent making any progress towards solving the root issues either and never will. This isnt an issue you people even want to solve, otherwise an attempt would be made. This is more about you not losing your precious guns which is somehow more important. I'm not "you people". I speak for myself and ONLY myself. And attempts are being made. Gun law reforms are constantly suggested, some of them are getting traction. Then you have stupid shit like banning arm braces as if it mattered to distract the public who doesn't know any better slowing things down. --- "The truth may be out there, but the lies are inside your head." Terry Pratchett <cite>Orestes417 posted [p:971017574] in 10 people ... [t:80320413]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> No I'm not bragging. I'm stating an absolute fact. Anyone with the right, pretty common and not at all specific to gunmaking, tools could produce one. Many manufacturers out there today started as one or two guys in a shop behind their house. Legally. Non-gun people have some REALLY stupid notions in their head about the difficulty of making and procuring things. Just like they have some really stupid ideas about how legal licensing works.Kloe_Rinz posted... </cite><quote>You arent making any progress towards solving the root issues either and never will. This isnt an issue you people even want to solve, otherwise an attempt would be made. This is more about you not losing your precious guns which is somehow more important.</quote>I'm not "you people". I speak for myself and ONLY myself. And attempts are being made. Gun law reforms are constantly suggested, some of them are getting traction. Then you have stupid shit like banning arm braces as if it mattered to distract the public who doesn't know any better slowing things down.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kloe_Rinz 01/22/23 3:07:11 PM #79:	nobody is going build a gun worth a damn in their backyard anyway lmao <cite>Kloe_Rinz posted [p:971017602] in 10 people ... [t:80320413]...</cite> <quote>nobody is going build a gun worth a damn in their backyard anyway lmao </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Touch 01/22/23 3:07:33 PM #80:	I was about 20 min away from where it happened last night. Saw the news about it on the way home. Damn sad. --- Did anything ever really count Or was I just a two year practice round? <cite>Touch posted [p:971017607] in 10 people ... [t:80320413]...</cite> <quote>I was about 20 min away from where it happened last night. Saw the news about it on the way home. Damn sad.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Orestes417 01/22/23 3:09:37 PM #81:	Kloe_Rinz posted... nobody is going build a gun worth a damn in their backyard anyway lmao I could point you to several professional shops that started out exactly like that. Some of the biggest names in the precision shooting industry did. --- "The truth may be out there, but the lies are inside your head." Terry Pratchett <cite>Orestes417 posted [p:971017648] in 10 people ... [t:80320413]...</cite> <quote>Kloe_Rinz posted... </cite><quote>nobody is going build a gun worth a damn in their backyard anyway lmao</quote>I could point you to several professional shops that started out exactly like that. Some of the biggest names in the precision shooting industry did.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kloe_Rinz 01/22/23 3:12:18 PM #83:	Orestes417 posted... I could point you to several professional shops that started out exactly like that. Some of the biggest names in the precision shooting industry did. And I would point out the drop in murder rates in countries that implemented gun restrictions. Youve presented no evidence based solution to that and despite that you refuse to even attempt something which is proven to work. If you were correct, where are all the home brew guns used in all those Australian mass shootings we see daily? Oh wait <cite>Kloe_Rinz posted [p:971017707] in 10 people ... [t:80320413]...</cite> <quote>Orestes417 posted... </cite><quote>I could point you to several professional shops that started out exactly like that. Some of the biggest names in the precision shooting industry did.</quote>And I would point out the drop in murder rates in countries that implemented gun restrictions. Youve presented no evidence based solution to that and despite that you refuse to even attempt something which is proven to work. If you were correct, where are all the home brew guns used in all those Australian mass shootings we see daily? Oh wait </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Orestes417 01/22/23 3:12:19 PM #84:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Probably because someone was stupid enough to sell one to them. Again, we need better screening. That's not a debate. Although if you pay the slightest bit of attention you'd know ghost guns are getting to be a bigger issue and lately there's been a bit of an auto-sear explosion. Kloe_Rinz posted... And I would point out the drop in murder rates in countries that implemented gun restrictions. Youve presented no evidence based solution to that and despite that you refuse to even attempt something which is proven to work. If you were correct, where are all the home brew guns used in all those Australian mass shootings we see daily? Oh wait Countries that never actually had the problem continued not to have one after bans... Hmm. Makes you wonder. Instead of treating inanimate objects as a cause of the problems instead of an implement used in them, which is frankly ridiculous, you should be asking the better question. Why the fuck does America have so many broken people? Because I absolutely guarantee you there's nothing that happens here that a sufficiently motivated person couldn't accomplish in ANY country you care to mention. No I don't know why it is that they don't, but they could. I wish I'd saved the article the other day pointing out the problem England has with guns being smuggled in from places like Albania. --- "The truth may be out there, but the lies are inside your head." Terry Pratchett <cite>Orestes417 posted [p:971017708] in 10 people ... [t:80320413]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Probably because someone was stupid enough to sell one to them. Again, we need better screening. That's not a debate. Although if you pay the slightest bit of attention you'd know ghost guns are getting to be a bigger issue and lately there's been a bit of an auto-sear explosion.Kloe_Rinz posted... </cite><quote>And I would point out the drop in murder rates in countries that implemented gun restrictions. Youve presented no evidence based solution to that and despite that you refuse to even attempt something which is proven to work. If you were correct, where are all the home brew guns used in all those Australian mass shootings we see daily? Oh wait</quote>Countries that never actually had the problem continued not to have one after bans... Hmm. Makes you wonder. Instead of treating inanimate objects as a cause of the problems instead of an implement used in them, which is frankly ridiculous, you should be asking the better question. Why the fuck does America have so many broken people? Because I absolutely guarantee you there's nothing that happens here that a sufficiently motivated person couldn't accomplish in ANY country you care to mention. No I don't know why it is that they don't, but they could. I wish I'd saved the article the other day pointing out the problem England has with guns being smuggled in from places like Albania. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Scotty_Rogers 01/22/23 3:23:32 PM #85:	So this is the first big mass shooting of the year. It's sad but it was to be expected America sucks --- Fammy fam <cite>Scotty_Rogers posted [p:971017935] in 10 people ... [t:80320413]...</cite> <quote>So this is the first big mass shooting of the year. It's sad but it was to be expected America sucks </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Scotty_Rogers 01/22/23 3:33:51 PM #87:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] I said first big one. As in 10 or more people died --- Fammy fam <cite>Scotty_Rogers posted [p:971018164] in 10 people ... [t:80320413]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> I said first big one. As in 10 or more people died </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Orestes417 01/22/23 3:45:29 PM #89:	The definition has been stretched to include things that wouldn't have been front page news on a slow day in most cities. --- "The truth may be out there, but the lies are inside your head." Terry Pratchett <cite>Orestes417 posted [p:971018385] in 10 people ... [t:80320413]...</cite> <quote>The definition has been stretched to include things that wouldn't have been front page news on a slow day in most cities. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hornezz 01/22/23 3:51:52 PM #90:	LA County Sheriff says in press conference that one of the hospitals treating the victims of the shooting got a call from someone saying they "wanted to finish the job". Geez. --- In dentibus anticis frustum magnum spinaciae habes. <cite>Hornezz posted [p:971018505] in 10 people ... [t:80320413]...</cite> <quote>LA County Sheriff says in press conference that one of the hospitals treating the victims of the shooting got a call from someone saying they "wanted to finish the job".Geez.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SgtBash 01/22/23 3:54:33 PM #92:	A white van has been surrounded https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-us-canada-64365251 --- Roboteers, stand by <cite>SgtBash posted [p:971018556] in 10 people ... [t:80320413]...</cite> <quote>A white van has been surroundedhttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-us-canada-64365251</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Orestes417 01/22/23 3:54:51 PM #93:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Yeah, no. When people say "mass shooting" they tend to mean public rampages, not any random ass normal shooting with three casualties. The decision to stretch the definition to include those was no doubt at least partially politically motivated. --- "The truth may be out there, but the lies are inside your head." Terry Pratchett <cite>Orestes417 posted [p:971018566] in 10 people ... [t:80320413]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Yeah, no. When people say "mass shooting" they tend to mean public rampages, not any random ass normal shooting with three casualties. The decision to stretch the definition to include those was no doubt at least partially politically motivated.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VampireCoyote 01/22/23 3:55:53 PM #94:	Orestes417 posted... Last I checked inanimate objects don't cause anything. They're just tools put to the use the person holding them chooses. And if those tools are off the table, other tools will be substituted because the tool ain't the source of the motivation. But please keep thinking you can fix broken people by taking away some of their toys. guns are the problem, accept it --- She/her <cite>VampireCoyote posted [p:971018593] in 10 people ... [t:80320413]...</cite> <quote>Orestes417 posted... </cite><quote>Last I checked inanimate objects don't cause anything. They're just tools put to the use the person holding them chooses. And if those tools are off the table, other tools will be substituted because the tool ain't the source of the motivation. But please keep thinking you can fix broken people by taking away some of their toys.</quote>guns are the problem, accept it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Orestes417 01/22/23 3:57:19 PM #96:	VampireCoyote posted... guns are the problem, accept it Show me a gun of it's own volition doing anything let alone going on a killing spree. I'll wait. Meanwhile I got a stack of broken individuals doing just fine fulfilling the mass murder criteria with things that aren't guns. --- "The truth may be out there, but the lies are inside your head." Terry Pratchett <cite>Orestes417 posted [p:971018619] in 10 people ... [t:80320413]...</cite> <quote>VampireCoyote posted... </cite><quote>guns are the problem, accept it</quote>Show me a gun of it's own volition doing anything let alone going on a killing spree. I'll wait. Meanwhile I got a stack of broken individuals doing just fine fulfilling the mass murder criteria with things that aren't guns. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
brestugo 01/22/23 3:58:21 PM #97:	brestugo posted... https://abc7.com/ Standoff with shooter. Live local feed The van is now being searched. --- Putin delenda est <cite>brestugo posted [p:971018641] in 10 people ... [t:80320413]...</cite> <quote>brestugo posted... </cite><quote>https://abc7.com/Standoff with shooter.Live local feed</quote>The van is now being searched.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hornezz 01/22/23 3:58:46 PM #98:	Orestes417 posted... Yeah, no. When people say "mass shooting" they tend to mean public rampages, not any random ass normal shooting with three casualties. The decision to stretch the definition to include those was no doubt at least partially politically motivated. Those dang politicians trying to make normal shootings with three casualties sound bad. --- In dentibus anticis frustum magnum spinaciae habes. <cite>Hornezz posted [p:971018649] in 10 people ... [t:80320413]...</cite> <quote>Orestes417 posted... </cite><quote>Yeah, no. When people say "mass shooting" they tend to mean public rampages, not any random ass normal shooting with three casualties. The decision to stretch the definition to include those was no doubt at least partially politically motivated.</quote>Those dang politicians trying to make normal shootings with three casualties sound bad.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BoyOfBattle 01/22/23 4:02:30 PM #100:	STOP ASIAN HATE. and on CNY too smh --- DIEHARD DUBS FAN SINCE 2022. We Believe! CHEF Curry. Klay "Kray" Thompson. Johnny "KUM" "Buckets". Big Game James. we already won. <cite>BoyOfBattle posted [p:971018717] in 10 people ... [t:80320413]...</cite> <quote>STOP ASIAN HATE. and on CNY too smh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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