Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 400: Pad Taiwan's Defense Budget

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They may actually hate Pence more than Biden, but they'll also ignore it because Pence is basically irrelevant.

kevwaffles posted...

they'll also ignore it because Pence is basically irrelevant.

much like they completely ignore hillary to this day

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1618000980825591808

pEnCe Is A gOoD mAn ThAt WaS a MiStAkE

LordoftheMorons posted...

Pence had classified docs too:

I agree with the tweet.

I'm guessing it's very common, and never got reported on before until Trump Trump'd things up.

guess we'll just have to get rid of everybody, darn!

My guess is mild corruption was always a thing and it just never blew up until trump started doing major corruption.

Covid stock trades were a big deal for like 3 days in 2020

I think it was more a general attitude among politicians of "ehh I guess these documents are supposed to be private, but they are just going to sit in a cabinet in my house and not be used for anything so I'm just not going to be concerned about tracking every last one of them down. Also if archives ever asks me for anything I'm just going to comply fully so there won't be any issues".

And then someone decided to deliberately take extra documents, lie about having documents, and completely resist turning over documents or providing any level of transparency.

Even if we assume there was not a deliberate attempt by Trump to sell state secrets (which is not a safe assumption by any stretch) it's possible that everything else was a result of Trump being Trump and the Trump approach is to lie and resist and litigate every step of every process regardless of if it's even necessary. It's absolutely insane but it lines up with how he has lived the entire rest of his life.

Trump is still the only one caught with Top Secret SCIF documents right?

The ones that aren't even supposed to leave their secure storage room.

Thought this was interesting

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/01/housing-crisis-hedge-funds-private-equity-scapegoat/672839/

Yeah, most people have some very stupid ideas about how the housing market works. If I had a dollar for every time I saw some idiot argue that building more housing would just make housing more expensive, I'd probably have enough to buy a house.

https://twitter.com/eve6/status/1618742068167471104?s=46&t=GngvLuAKA7MQ5AqsE7d_4A

Hell world

Broke: automating menial tasks to make our crushing existences more palatable
Woke: automating creative endeavors such as art and writing for maximum company profit

ChaosTonyV4 posted...

https://twitter.com/eve6/status/1618742068167471104?s=46&t=GngvLuAKA7MQ5AqsE7d_4A

Hell world

It's Buzzfeed so honestly I doubt you'd be able to notice the difference.

10 REDDIT COMMENTS we STOLE that are EVERYTHING and we literally CANNOT with

There you can have that one AI bot.

Automation is always a good thing. People are luddites for thinking its not.

Its also important that the owners of the capital creating automation funnel the wealth into those effected.

With good government this inevitably leads to basic income and everyone being happy.

Killing automation isnt the move.

Automation is great, automating most forms of writing seems like a miss unless you have 0 standards to start with.

masterplum posted...

With good government this inevitably leads to basic income

lmfao

Kenri posted...

Automation is great, automating most forms of writing seems like a miss unless you have 0 standards to start with.

I mean...Buzzfeed.

I'm assuming this is automating their clickbait content and not their news division, although I admit to not having read through things carefully.

They can't use ChatGPT to fully automate the news. Even if they wrote the actual articles with it, reporters would need to do the research.

the news will be 30% complete fabrications, 30% reports by twitter randos, 30% press releases and statements, and 10% the work of 8 AP reporters

||just like now||

Suprak_the_Stud posted...

I mean...Buzzfeed.

Yeah they're definitely included in the "unless 0 standards" clause

masterplum posted...

Automation is always a good thing. People are luddites for thinking its not.

lmao, if we lived in a fair world...but like...where are you living, dude?

masterplum posted...

Its also important that the owners of the capital creating automation funnel the wealth into those effected.

It's not like there isn't an entire genres of books about automation automating the masses into eternal poverty at the mercy of corporations or anything.

I'm pretty sure Buzzfeed articles don't actually need AI to generate, madlibs is enough

ChaosTonyV4 posted...

It's not like there isn't an entire genres of books about automation automating the masses into eternal poverty at the mercy of corporations or anything.

I mean I guess it's possible that AI will be different, but that doomsaying has a pretty bad track record. We have near record low unemployment at the moment, and stuff like productivity gains have decelerated over recent decades.

masterplum posted...

Its also important that the owners of the capital creating automation funnel the wealth into those effected.

okay but like

show me one instance in all of human history where this actually happened

Not_an_Owl posted...

okay but like

show me one instance in all of human history where this actually happened

Show me one instance where automaton has led to permanent unemployment.

Both of these things will theoretically happen in the future

Remember the Durham investigation? No? Probably not. But it was the guy Barr tasked with investigating Hillary and the intelligence community over 2016 claiming the Russian collusion story was a nefarious plot by Clinton and the Deep State and then made a special prosecutor right before they left office so Biden couldn't end it. Well, it's been a total joke - the only two charges they brought against Clinton/gov't people were immediately acquitted. But we have more details and what a shitshow.

At one point it came out that it had become a criminal investigation but that was it so naturally everyone (including Trump lol) figured that meant they were looking to charge Hillary or Biden or some shit. Turns out that while trying to fish up excuses to go after Hillary they stumbled into a tip that implicated *Trump* so serious and credible that Barr felt it couldn't be ignored but chose to give it to Durham despite it having nothing to do with his investigation and they of course buried it to the point we don't even know wtf the tip even was to this day.

They also tried to get Soros's (yes really) emails based on *Russian* intelligence memos (yes really) that were believed to be seeded with misinformation and a judge told them to fuck off because this was obviously not a credible basis. So they went around the judge and asked a grand jury to subpeona them instead. Soros's foundation decided to just comply and... those emails were never used or cited in the investigation ever.

More in the article (like how a bunch of the team under them basically resigned in protest as it went increasingly off the rails, the Soros incident being one of them, Barr continuing to insinuate publicly they were finding "dark" things about Clinton and the intel community being another despite it being false and also talking about an active investigation) but it's a long one and those were the biggest pieces out of it IMO.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/26/us/politics/durham-trump-russia-barr.html

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/8/6/AAXBdhAAEIWi.jpg

Im going to be pretty pissed if this goes through and I gave to work from the office 5 days a week again. ( as opposed to the current 1). My unit has been at least as productive as we were prior to teleworking, if not more so. The notion that the backlog is in any way related to employee laziness make my blood boil.

The ACTUAL cause of the backlog started with making the stimulus payments an IRS issue. By putting that on our plate it caused most everything else to grind to a halt for the better part of a year. And then putting income restrictions onto those payments cost countless man hours sorting out.

It put us in a situation where we had to get Non-Filer returns from individuals who don't normally have a requirement to file returns. So instead of just giving them a way to claim it directly we had to process what was essentially a blank tax return to put them in the system for 2019/2020.

But THAT caused a bunch of people who ARE required to file taxes to submit the "non filter" returns as well. But then a month or two later our system wouldn't accept their ACTUAL return because the blank return was already sitting there.

Which in turn required an amended return to correct. But at that point we were only processing amended returns by mail (we have since expanded to allow efiling of some amendments).

And those were delayed because our processing sites were emptied for a couple months while social distancing protocols were being implemented.

Which caused people to send in extra copies of their amended returns because they were taking longer than they were supposed to. Extra copies that still have to be manually reviewed. Copies of amendments that only occurred because people used the Non Filer return when they weren't supposed to. A non filer tool that only existed because the IRS was made responsible for the issuance of the stimulus payments. A responsibility that could have been avoided (and likely saved money) if they just have the payments to EVERYONE instead of putting an income cap on eligibility.

There are direct causes and effects at play here and they aren't remotely the ones Republicans think. And removing the funding to hire more employees will have a significantly negative effect on progress as opposed to the neutral effect of forcing us back to the office. Well, we'll spend more on gasoline and we'll be less happy, but it won't improve productivity.

Sorry for the rant, but it's a frustrating topic to consider, and that's to say nothing of the right wing talking points about us all being gun wielding bill collectors and that were supposedly hiring 80,000 people with guns. (Two things that aren't definitely accurate.)

Sorry to hear about that, fd. That's a ton of bullshit to have to deal with.

https://twitter.com/theonion/status/1618704124677169160?s=46&t=-TyIzTlVPjpImJ4GFYZmVA

More criming by our friend George Santos

https://twitter.com/nlanard/status/1619130124909301760?s=21

I hate myself for being a little jealous of right-wing shamelessness. You get so far ahead in life if you're willing to lie about absolutely everything.

They released footage of the break-in AND the attack on Paul Pelosi, as well as the 911 callproving basically every aspect of their theories wrongand the psychos are still clinging to their conspiracies that it was a secret rendezvous gone wrong.

free speech absolutism on display at twitter

https://www.businessinsider.com/twitter-leaked-internal-message-suggests-musk-ordered-leftwing-account-freeze-2023-1

"Suspension: direct request from Elon Musk"

oh

if only NYT could write another article to really get to bottom of elon's complicated political leanings that just can't be figured out

Thorn posted...

free speech absolutism on display at twitter

https://www.businessinsider.com/twitter-leaked-internal-message-suggests-musk-ordered-leftwing-account-freeze-2023-1

"Suspension: direct request from Elon Musk"

oh

i'm sure all the right-wing musk stans will be up in arms over this

What a surprise

Iowa Republicans are moving to pass a law banning gender affirming care before the person is 18 and prosecute doctors who do anything to help.

I wish I could believe all these horrible decisions will push us back to center but it will probably just make more people leave the state instead and Iowa will continue to slowly die.

Maniac64 posted...

Iowa Republicans are moving to pass a law banning gender affirming care before the person is 18 and prosecute doctors who do anything to help.

I wish I could believe all these horrible decisions will push us back to center but it will probably just make more people leave the state instead and Iowa will continue to slowly die.

My guess is banning gender affirming care for minors is popular actually.

https://www.thecentersquare.com/national/poll-americans-support-banning-

transgender-surgeries-drugs-for-minors/article_a969ff1a-5156-11ed-9243-
733436a08713.html

This poll says 79% oppose before they are adults

Link was too long so I put in breaks

Convention of States Action and Trafalgar said it?

Well it must be true!

Hello I work in public health.

Leaving medical care up to whats popular among the general population and not trained medical professionals is extremely stupid.

Goodbye.

A good chunk of those against it are probably against gun control too even though its harming significantly more children than gender affirming care ever possibly could

masterplum posted...

My guess is banning gender affirming care for minors is popular actually.

what's unfortunately popular is having literally not one single clue in your braincell about what "gender affirming care" actually is, let alone the actual process for receiving it.

I think the American people have had enough of experts - plum, probably.

LightningStrikes posted...

I think the American people have had enough of experts - plum, probably.

is he wrong tho :\

masterplum posted...

My guess is banning gender affirming care for minors is popular actually.

https://www.thecentersquare.com/national/poll-americans-support-banning-

transgender-surgeries-drugs-for-minors/article_a969ff1a-5156-11ed-9243-
733436a08713.html

This poll says 79% oppose before they are adults

Link was too long so I put in breaks

Combine this poll with one about whether surgeons should be allowed to reattach a boy's dick if he accidentally blows it off with a firecracker to find the real % of people against gender affirming care vs those who just want trans kids specifically to suffer

Because no one bothers explaining what gender affirming care is in these polls and at least half just assume "oh like cutting off penises and breasts?"

Also most of the polling I'm seeing shows it closer to 45-50% oppose, 30-35% support and the rest neither.

I think one of the easiest ways of reducing medical costs is removing the burden of some medical licensing

This is statistically my most unpopular opinion. 98% surveyed approve medical licensing

That neither changes my opinion nor does it mean that espousing my opinion is ever really fruitful. It just is what it is.

Arguing that something shouldn't be unpopular is not helpful. You don't want to make it a big issue, you will get crushed if it becomes a focal point even if it is important.

let them die and decrease the surplus population I guess