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Shadowplay
12/24/22 1:46:19 PM
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Thinking about buying the complete edition for $20, but I seem to recall a lot of people griping about it though. Was it a length issue? Did it fail to meet expectations?

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Irony
12/24/22 1:48:06 PM
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Nothing

It's not bad or great. It's certainly better than 12 and 13

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Cleo_II
12/24/22 1:49:12 PM
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It sucks.
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Makeveli_lives
12/24/22 1:49:20 PM
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When it orginally came out there was entirely too much content missing. They had DLC for every lead character seperated by like 3-4 months each between releases. Had a prequel movie tie in with relevant information. Had a youtube anime spin off series with relevant information. Had a manga too I think. Then mulitplayer was added and that had story information and on and on and on. It's not terrible by any means and the Royal Edition is free for PS5 users at least but my god there's just so much involved in it it's astounding, and most of it we didn't get until like 2 years after release.

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SpiritSephiroth
12/24/22 1:51:37 PM
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The story is fucked. Rushed and removed content. Barely any writing for some of the characters and towards the end of the game they leave out so much to the point where you wonder if you were supposed to see another 20 cut scenes for the point they reach.

Also you have to watch a movie and Anime to get the backstory on a lot of other characters and events.

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NoxObscuras
12/24/22 1:53:03 PM
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It's not a bad game overall. And a lot of the issues people had at launch have been fixed now. The main problems it still has are that there's a lot of empty space in the world and that there are some... issues with the story. Otherwise it's still fun. It has the best fishing minigame I've played in an rpg and the combat is fun if you try and learn it beyond just mashing the attack button.

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CARRRNE_ASADA
12/24/22 1:54:00 PM
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Irony posted...
Nothing

It's not bad or great. It's certainly better than 12 and 13


HAAAAAAAH. Ignore this. At least those games were finished and not rushed. FFXV scrapped and changed everything Nomura had done for the past 8 YEARS and new director Tabata scrambled to complete it in 3.

Now it isnt a bad game and there's enjoyment to be found, but its an empty open world and the story there is, is very minimal and rushed and also non sensical. Theres been many fixes and DLC that have helped make it a better game, but it simply cant hang with the rest of the main line FF games (even XIII) in the sense of being part of an epic storyline.

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Savoots
12/24/22 1:54:22 PM
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The car can fly, but if you don't land correctly you'll crash and it's game over.

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eaglei3
12/24/22 1:54:46 PM
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The base addition was awful.

The royal addition added some more things such as playing as the other bros, but the base game was hard to salvage.

Magic and summons systems were bad.

You will never die as long as you have healing items unless you self limit yourself for challenge.

I found the game tried to merge open world, with action elements and RPG elements. All 3 of them were mediocre.

So many story elements being in sources outside the game was an awful decision to me.
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Blue_Inigo
12/24/22 1:54:56 PM
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It is simply an ok game currently. Has its ups and downs. Debatable whether it earns its ending or not. I don't like how important story details are in spinoff content like a movie or an anime

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Kaiganeer
12/24/22 1:58:55 PM
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it's a mess of half-baked ideas haphazardly crammed together because the game got completely rebooted 2 or 3 times during its development, and even with how long it took to get it out the door, it still launched unfinished

it could've been better than what it was with a clearer vision and less bullshit around the franchise during its development, but as it is, it's just a very mediocre, unfinished product, even with all of the post-launch additions and DLC factored in
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Cleo_II
12/24/22 2:03:54 PM
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Yeah I played it at launch and it was so incomplete and it felt insulting to be asked to pay DLC to get the complete game so I never did. Have no desire to. Now you can get the royal edition but at the time they would trickle content over long periods of time and nickel and dime you for it.
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Makeveli_lives
12/24/22 2:06:35 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcqtiDmFqXQ

Here's the anime movie on youtube, including exclusive Blu-Ray extras.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UblcNFVVHT8

Here's the first 12 minutes of the 3d animated prequel movie. Was on netflix at one point, might still be I'm not sure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXhRK8jyfOs

Here's the multiplayer trailer which unfolds during the 3d animated prequel movie.

Then there's the like 3 main character DLC and the Villian DLC.

Game is fine now especially since you're getting all that content for 20 or less but goddamn it is a lot to just jump into it if you plan on getting the "full story". If 16 pulls any of this shit I'm going to...do absolutely nothing beyond not playing it lol. But this is the reason I'm not excited for it, I don't want them to do to 16 what they did to 15.


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Blue_Inigo
12/24/22 2:08:39 PM
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Yeah you can easily find a dlc bundle with the game for 20 or lower nowadays. Be aware if you're playing on PC that game is gonna push your computer. It sure is good looking at 60fps on the new gen consoles/PC. The combat is also pretty fun

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KainWind
12/24/22 2:12:16 PM
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I just finished it recently. I enjoyed it but it's not one of my favorite FF games. The characters were cool, combat was pretty fun, and it's a lot of sidequests. I also spent a lot of hours fishing because I love it.

Nothing too amazing but I liked it.

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Hayame_Zero
12/24/22 2:16:47 PM
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It's pretty fun and worth playing now - save for some mild issues (magic is very WTF) - but they really dropped the ball with plot. It doesn't really get going until about 3/4 of the way through, but by then, it's very linear and on rails.

And much of the character development is relegated to the DLC, which is...not good.

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Blue_Inigo
12/24/22 2:18:00 PM
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I played the first chunk of FFXV twice. It is a confusing mess story wise. Things kinda just happen

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creativerealms
12/24/22 2:19:22 PM
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I liked the game fine. It waa unmemerable at worst.


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MJOLNRVII
12/24/22 2:19:27 PM
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I'm still mindblown that it was so bad it got its DLC canceled.

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Bringit
12/24/22 2:19:33 PM
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The story definitely needed a bit more time to breathe. There are one or two plot elements where if you zone for even 2 seconds you've missed some pretty crucial details.

Otherwise though I thought it was a really good game. The open world isn't used very well, pretty much just very pretty scenery to traverse... the game itself doesn't offer much to do in it outside of fetch quests but thankfully those are pretty much entirely optional.

It's the kind of game that benefits from a player with a mindset of just wanting to go through the story. And maybe spend some time fishing because that was way deeper than it had to be.

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TMOG
12/24/22 2:22:14 PM
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It's boring
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Makeveli_lives
12/24/22 2:25:18 PM
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MJOLNRVII posted...
I'm still mindblown that it was so bad it got its DLC canceled.
It got the last dlc cancelled because it took too long to get out. It was updated with content every few months for like 2 years, no way the player base was so large after that point to justify the cost of producing and distributing an additional 2 pieces of content.

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ANort175
12/24/22 2:25:46 PM
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Too much time spent driving between areas, bland main character, weird level up system where you have to stay at the most expensive inn if you don't wanna screw yourself out of levels/skill points, DLC weapons being horribly unbalanced for most of the game. There's probably more but those are the ones I really remember.

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Seaman_Prime
12/24/22 2:33:41 PM
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I didn't dig the story or gameplay
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Savoots
12/24/22 2:35:16 PM
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Seaman_Prime posted...
I didn't dig the story or gameplay

Seaman wasn't exactly an awesome game either.

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ShineboxPhil
12/24/22 2:36:11 PM
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Final Fantasy XV is basically BTS meets JRPG

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Atralis
12/24/22 2:51:33 PM
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The storyline feels like a storyboard where they mapped out various things happening but then they ran out of time to actually fill most of the stuff in so that it would make sense.

Like imagine if in Star Trek Next Gen: Geordie says to the crew in the last episode. "Hey guys..... I'm a clone. I don't have any parents they grew me in a test tube not sure why" and the rest of the bridge crew responded "Thats OK Geordie we still like you" and then everyone fist bumps and they pretend he didn't say that.

There is literally a moment like that in FFXV.
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Rharyx211
12/24/22 3:21:29 PM
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~Rushed and incomplete story, even with the DLCs. It's just a mess. It feels like reading a book that your little cousin has ripped a bunch of pages out of.
~Underdeveloped protagonists with basically no agency or focus. And somehow the supporting cast -- and even major villains -- gets even less than that.
~Clunky combat with a weird magic system, weird summon system, and basically no challenge or difficulty.
~An empty open world with hardly anything to do.

Not to mention the development hell that it went through while it tried to shift ideas from Nomura's original Versus XIII game with Tabata's new ideas, ending up in this smorgasbord of characters and concepts that don't really make sense, narratively or tonally. Then they dicked around making a bunch of trailers for a few years that showcased stuff that didn't even make it into the final product, then were locked into a 2016 release window regardless of how much they had done because it had been like ten whole fuckin' years since Versus XIII was first announced.

And then you need to do homework on top of that, in the form of watching the tie-in prequel movie and reading the post-release novel to get the "full story." If you even care about the story at all by that point.

It's almost kind of impressive how badly everything went with this game.

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Savoots
12/24/22 3:29:37 PM
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Atralis posted...
The storyline feels like a storyboard where they mapped out various things happening but then they ran out of time to actually fill most of the stuff in so that it would make sense.

Like imagine if in Star Trek Next Gen: Geordie says to the crew in the last episode. "Hey guys..... I'm a clone. I don't have any parents they grew me in a test tube not sure why" and the rest of the bridge crew responded "Thats OK Geordie we still like you" and then everyone fist bumps and they pretend he didn't say that.

There is literally a moment like that in FFXV.

I think you need to rewatch TNG because that never happened.

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ChrisTaka
12/24/22 3:32:52 PM
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Makeveli_lives posted...
When it orginally came out there was entirely too much content missing. They had DLC for every lead character seperated by like 3-4 months each between releases. Had a prequel movie tie in with relevant information. Had a youtube anime spin off series with relevant information. Had a manga too I think. Then mulitplayer was added and that had story information and on and on and on. It's not terrible by any means and the Royal Edition is free for PS5 users at least but my god there's just so much involved in it it's astounding, and most of it we didn't get until like 2 years after release.

All of this.

It still baffles me that there was a point in time where we had no idea how Ignis became blind, what happened to Prompto after he fell off the train, or where the hell Gladio went until their respective DLCs were released.

And even after all the content was released we still never got everything and a lot is left to your imagination.

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Bandit_Keith
12/24/22 3:34:32 PM
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Savoots posted...
I think you need to rewatch TNG because that never happened.
You need to stay in school because your reading comprehension is awful.

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Atralis
12/24/22 3:35:25 PM
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Savoots posted...
I think you need to rewatch TNG because that never happened.

I'm saying something like that happens with a character in FFXV but by that point in the game 99% of people were just thinking "ok...... I just don't care anymore". The game has ridiculously bad pacing and there are huge gaps where the story should go.
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Savoots
12/24/22 3:36:44 PM
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Bandit_Keith posted...
You need to stay in school because your reading comprehension is awful.

I wasn't talking to you, Keith mind your motherfucking business.

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KainWind
12/24/22 3:40:19 PM
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Savoots posted...
I wasn't talking to you, Keith mind your motherfucking business.

You also shouldn't call people out for being wrong when you are the wrong one

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Sphyx
12/24/22 3:42:04 PM
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Shadowplay posted...
a lot of people griping
To be fair, this will probably happen anyway.

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lilORANG
12/24/22 3:44:40 PM
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The story is half-baked. The game starts in the middle of a conflict that has zero backstory or explanation in-game.

the gameplay starts out great. The open world is huge and beautiful And the comraderie among the 4 friends is delightful. But the open world soon narrows into this weird rails experience where you get rushed to the end.

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SSJ2GrimReaper
12/24/22 3:44:58 PM
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sausage fest

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Number090684
12/24/22 4:02:55 PM
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Savoots posted...
The car can fly, but if you don't land correctly you'll crash and it's game over.

You don't even have to crash it to get a Game Over. If you land it while approaching a turn and slide off the road even slightly before it decelerate s enough you will still get a Game Over. Whoever was responsible for the Game Over back to title screen with all progress lost since last save for failing to safely land the Regalia deserves the biggest reprimand of their career. People have went and started the optional Pitioss platforming dungeon, came out after several hours, didn't save, and failed to land the Regalia and lost all their progress. Seriously it's bullshit.
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yunalenne10
12/24/22 4:09:42 PM
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I liked Ardyn.

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Number090684
12/24/22 4:11:34 PM
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yunalenne10 posted...
I liked Ardyn.

I kind of liked him, but without the DLC character development he comes across as a half baked douchebag.
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WarfireX
12/24/22 4:11:54 PM
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Cleo_II posted...
It sucks.


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yunalenne10
12/24/22 4:12:48 PM
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Number090684 posted...
I kind of liked him, but without the DLC character development he comes across as a half baked douchArdennes.

Yeah, plus his theme's changing is really nice too.

https://youtu.be/ECSfIO_XnII

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Rharyx211
12/24/22 4:24:48 PM
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Yeah, Ardyn was fun but mainly only because his actor was fantastic.

We don't really get anything concrete about him until the end of the game, and then his DLC which was, what, released two years later?

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Irony
12/24/22 4:25:31 PM
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I just remembered that they're releasing a PS5 version of this


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alphagamble
12/24/22 4:29:33 PM
#46:


It has one of the most poorly told stories I've ever experienced

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Irony
12/24/22 4:30:42 PM
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It's not even the most poorly told Final Fantasy story

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alphagamble
12/24/22 4:32:09 PM
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Irony posted...
It's not even the most poorly told Final Fantasy story
It's easily worse than FF13

And I have nothing good to say about that one

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Hayame_Zero
12/24/22 4:35:43 PM
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alphagamble posted...
It has one of the most poorly told stories I've ever experienced
In terms of its potential, it's up there due to how squandered it was. There are some fantastic emotional beats - particularly the ending - that would have hit a lot better if the game's plot was as fleshed out as it should have been.

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Shah138
12/24/22 5:18:23 PM
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Rharyx211 posted...
Yeah, Ardyn was fun but mainly only because his actor was fantastic.

We don't really get anything concrete about him until the end of the game, and then his DLC which was, what, released two years later?
Yea it was a bit post launch. I felt kind of burned by it, they announced a lot more DLC and more expansive mod tools for the PC version and then cancelled it.

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