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hungrymike 12/22/22 11:47:56 PM #1:	Literally had to wheel in the omnibus spending bill on a cart. Its mind boggling politicians vote on this stuff without even reading it. https://youtu.be/gwH_TtJZWvI <cite>hungrymike posted [p:970352460] in Did yall s... [t:80286791]...</cite> <quote>Literally had to wheel in the omnibus spending bill on a cart. Its mind boggling politicians vote on this stuff without even reading it. https://youtu.be/gwH_TtJZWvI</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackScythe0 12/22/22 11:56:24 PM #2:	How long do you expect it to be? <cite>BlackScythe0 posted [p:970352597] in Did yall s... [t:80286791]...</cite> <quote>How long do you expect it to be?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metalsonic66 12/23/22 12:19:27 AM #3:	As long as THIS DI--dragged offstage --- PSN/Steam ID: Metalsonic_69 Big bombs go kabang. <cite>Metalsonic66 posted [p:970353009] in Did yall s... [t:80286791]...</cite> <quote>As long as THIS DI--dragged offstage</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hungrymike 12/23/22 11:12:51 AM #4:	BlackScythe0 posted... How long do you expect it to be? Its over 4000 pages. <cite>hungrymike posted [p:970359562] in Did yall s... [t:80286791]...</cite> <quote>BlackScythe0 posted... </cite><quote>How long do you expect it to be?</quote>Its over 4000 pages. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackScythe0 12/23/22 11:14:36 AM #5:	hungrymike posted... Its over 4000 pages. And? <cite>BlackScythe0 posted [p:970359601] in Did yall s... [t:80286791]...</cite> <quote>hungrymike posted... </cite><quote>Its over 4000 pages.</quote>And?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BeerOnTap 12/23/22 11:23:14 AM #6:	BlackScythe0 posted... And? If you dont see a glaring problem with that theres no hope for you. Or even worse, youre attempting to defend it by explaining it away. Guys this should be appalling to every American regardless of party. The bull crap thats in that bill. Meanwhile, and I know this from the constant griping about money on this board, a lot of you are living paycheck to paycheck. If yall wanna be mad at billionaires thats completely fine and warranted. But be objective and call this out too please. This is your money being spent haphazardly without any care or deliberation. <cite>BeerOnTap posted [p:970359735] in Did yall s... [t:80286791]...</cite> <quote>BlackScythe0 posted... </cite><quote>And?</quote>If you dont see a glaring problem with that theres no hope for you. Or even worse, youre attempting to defend it by explaining it away. Guys this should be appalling to every American regardless of party. The bull crap thats in that bill. Meanwhile, and I know this from the constant griping about money on this board, a lot of you are living paycheck to paycheck. If yall wanna be mad at billionaires thats completely fine and warranted. But be objective and call this out too please. This is your money being spent haphazardly without any care or deliberation. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hungrymike 12/23/22 11:23:55 AM #7:	BlackScythe0 posted... And? And there's no way way to read it all before they're expected to vote on it. <cite>hungrymike posted [p:970359746] in Did yall s... [t:80286791]...</cite> <quote>BlackScythe0 posted... </cite><quote>And?</quote>And there's no way way to read it all before they're expected to vote on it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackScythe0 12/23/22 11:25:50 AM #8:	A quick google search says the budget is 900 billion dollars. I'm asking how long should a bill that distributes that be. We are in a thread where where someone linked one of the worst senators in the senate putting on a clown show. I'm asking a question and people are avoiding it. How long should the bill be? <cite>BlackScythe0 posted [p:970359771] in Did yall s... [t:80286791]...</cite> <quote>A quick google search says the budget is 900 billion dollars. I'm asking how long should a bill that distributes that be. We are in a thread where where someone linked one of the worst senators in the senate putting on a clown show. I'm asking a question and people are avoiding it. How long should the bill be?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hungrymike 12/23/22 11:27:47 AM #9:	BeerOnTap posted... This is your money being spent haphazardly without any care or deliberation. Not just your money, your grandchildrens money. This is money we don't have that just keeps getting piled onto the national debt. <cite>hungrymike posted [p:970359811] in Did yall s... [t:80286791]...</cite> <quote>BeerOnTap posted... </cite><quote>This is your money being spent haphazardly without any care or deliberation.</quote>Not just your money, your grandchildrens money. This is money we don't have that just keeps getting piled onto the national debt. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Far-Queue 12/23/22 11:30:11 AM #10:	BlackScythe0 posted... A quick google search says the budget is 900 billion dollars. I'm asking how long should a bill that distributes that be. We are in a thread where where someone linked one of the worst senators in the senate putting on a clown show. I'm asking a question and people are avoiding it. How long should the bill be? Conservatives require short, easy-to-read documents because they're not smart enough to handle the job they've been elected for. Pity Rand Paul, really. He's doing the absolute best a moron can do. --- What's better than roses on your piano? Tulips on your organ. <cite>Far-Queue posted [p:970359852] in Did yall s... [t:80286791]...</cite> <quote>BlackScythe0 posted... </cite><quote>A quick google search says the budget is 900 billion dollars. I'm asking how long should a bill that distributes that be. We are in a thread where where someone linked one of the worst senators in the senate putting on a clown show. I'm asking a question and people are avoiding it. How long should the bill be?</quote>Conservatives require short, easy-to-read documents because they're not smart enough to handle the job they've been elected for. Pity Rand Paul, really. He's doing the absolute best a moron can do.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackScythe0 12/23/22 12:15:12 PM #11:	I genuinely don't understand why they refuse to answer a simple question. They keep saying nonsense like it is self evident, and it's not. Rand Paul is a joke. An elected official should be sent to congress to govern. Rand has no interest in governing, he just engages in activism for anarchy. Excuse me I think it's popular to call anarchy libertarianism now days. This is the guy who when traitors had control of all 3 branches of government refused to repeal Obamacare because "This bill doesn't kill enough Americans." Rand Paul is a joke who has no real interest in doing his job. Him having no clue what is in the bill makes sense because he probably refused to participate or was excluded from the deal making because he has no interest in meaningfully contributing to the governing of this nation. <cite>BlackScythe0 posted [p:970360602] in Did yall s... [t:80286791]...</cite> <quote>I genuinely don't understand why they refuse to answer a simple question. They keep saying nonsense like it is self evident, and it's not.Rand Paul is a joke. An elected official should be sent to congress to govern. Rand has no interest in governing, he just engages in activism for anarchy. Excuse me I think it's popular to call anarchy libertarianism now days. This is the guy who when traitors had control of all 3 branches of government refused to repeal Obamacare because "This bill doesn't kill enough Americans."Rand Paul is a joke who has no real interest in doing his job. Him having no clue what is in the bill makes sense because he probably refused to participate or was excluded from the deal making because he has no interest in meaningfully contributing to the governing of this nation. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hungrymike 12/23/22 12:15:44 PM #12:	Far-Queue posted... Conservatives require short, easy-to-read documents As if any politician is actually going to read it. Smh <cite>hungrymike posted [p:970360613] in Did yall s... [t:80286791]...</cite> <quote>Far-Queue posted... </cite><quote>Conservatives require short, easy-to-read documents </quote>As if any politician is actually going to read it. Smh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 12/23/22 12:27:52 PM #13:	BeerOnTap posted... This is your money being spent haphazardly without any care or deliberation. While I agree that a spending bill of that size obviously isn't being read by the people voting on it, and that's kind of a problem, it's not like somebody in some back room somewhere threw together a bunch of random numbers and sent it off to be rubber stamped with no oversight. That bill is the product of numerous rounds of lower government officials conducting analyses and working within their own departments and smaller teams to put together their pieces of the budget, passing through multiple layers of more detailed scrutiny and approval before ultimately coming here for final approval. There is plenty of care and deliberation happening, it's just happening behind the scenes. If anything, bringing something of that size and complexity to the top like this is stupid, since the vote for approval mostly boils down to "did somebody I like put this together?" and "do the people who voted for me want me to approve things or not?", rather than actually doing anything to assess the content or context. It should really be split into multiple bills and left to multiple departments to handle, with final approval consisting mostly of "each department wants X and has scored Y points on our prioritization algorithm, how should we distribute it?" As it stands, it's pretty much just performative. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:970360807] in Did yall s... [t:80286791]...</cite> <quote>BeerOnTap posted... </cite><quote>This is your money being spent haphazardly without any care or deliberation.</quote>While I agree that a spending bill of that size obviously isn't being read by the people voting on it, and that's kind of a problem, it's not like somebody in some back room somewhere threw together a bunch of random numbers and sent it off to be rubber stamped with no oversight. That bill is the product of numerous rounds of lower government officials conducting analyses and working within their own departments and smaller teams to put together their pieces of the budget, passing through multiple layers of more detailed scrutiny and approval before ultimately coming here for final approval. There is plenty of care and deliberation happening, it's just happening behind the scenes.If anything, bringing something of that size and complexity to the top like this is stupid, since the vote for approval mostly boils down to "did somebody I like put this together?" and "do the people who voted for me want me to approve things or not?", rather than actually doing anything to assess the content or context. It should really be split into multiple bills and left to multiple departments to handle, with final approval consisting mostly of "each department wants X and has scored Y points on our prioritization algorithm, how should we distribute it?" As it stands, it's pretty much just performative.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hungrymike 12/23/22 8:02:57 PM #14:	BlackScythe0 posted... I genuinely don't understand why they refuse to answer a simple question. They keep saying nonsense like it is self evident, and it's not. Rand Paul is a joke. An elected official should be sent to congress to govern. Rand has no interest in governing, he just engages in activism for anarchy. Excuse me I think it's popular to call anarchy libertarianism now days. Seems pretty self-evident that you should at least have time to read what you're passing. Also, you are mistaken that libertarianism is anarchism. they May share some similarities but they are distinctly different <cite>hungrymike posted [p:970368662] in Did yall s... [t:80286791]...</cite> <quote>BlackScythe0 posted... </cite><quote>I genuinely don't understand why they refuse to answer a simple question. They keep saying nonsense like it is self evident, and it's not.Rand Paul is a joke. An elected official should be sent to congress to govern. Rand has no interest in governing, he just engages in activism for anarchy. Excuse me I think it's popular to call anarchy libertarianism now days.</quote>Seems pretty self-evident that you should at least have time to read what you're passing. Also, you are mistaken that libertarianism is anarchism. they May share some similarities but they are distinctly different</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 12/23/22 8:34:34 PM #15:	hungrymike posted... Also, you are mistaken that libertarianism is anarchism. they May share some similarities but they are distinctly different Libertarianism is anarchy but with the laws you like. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:970369149] in Did yall s... [t:80286791]...</cite> <quote>hungrymike posted... </cite><quote>Also, you are mistaken that libertarianism is anarchism. they May share some similarities but they are distinctly different</quote>Libertarianism is anarchy but with the laws you like.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackScythe0 12/23/22 9:48:54 PM #16:	hungrymike posted... Seems pretty self-evident that you should at least have time to read what you're passing. Also, you are mistaken that libertarianism is anarchism. they May share some similarities but they are distinctly different If he didn't read it, that is an issue on him and his staff. This idea that the federal budget just magically appeared with no one knowing what is in it is absolutely insane. I said he put on a clown show because it's exactly what he did, he went up and made disingenuous arguments. He isn't making a legitimate point. And you're putting on a clown show too because you're still refusing to answer how many pages you think a 900 billion dollar itemized budget should be. I'm not asking if you agree with the dollar amount of the budget, I'm asking why you think 4000 pages is unreasonable for it. <cite>BlackScythe0 posted [p:970370557] in Did yall s... [t:80286791]...</cite> <quote>hungrymike posted... </cite><quote>Seems pretty self-evident that you should at least have time to read what you're passing. Also, you are mistaken that libertarianism is anarchism. they May share some similarities but they are distinctly different</quote>If he didn't read it, that is an issue on him and his staff. This idea that the federal budget just magically appeared with no one knowing what is in it is absolutely insane. I said he put on a clown show because it's exactly what he did, he went up and made disingenuous arguments. He isn't making a legitimate point. And you're putting on a clown show too because you're still refusing to answer how many pages you think a 900 billion dollar itemized budget should be. I'm not asking if you agree with the dollar amount of the budget, I'm asking why you think 4000 pages is unreasonable for it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hard_Light 12/23/22 10:39:53 PM #17:	the only issue is that rand paul refuses to just admit he doesn't know how to read --- feed the children to the beast just to keep their numbers green <cite>Hard_Light posted [p:970371449] in Did yall s... [t:80286791]...</cite> <quote>the only issue is that rand paul refuses to just admit he doesn't know how to read</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hungrymike 12/24/22 12:33:51 AM #18:	BlackScythe0 posted... If he didn't read it, that is an issue on him and his staff. This idea that the federal budget just magically appeared with no one knowing what is in it is absolutely insane. When was it released? When were they expected to vote on it? When was it supposed to be released? How long would it take to read? <cite>hungrymike posted [p:970373049] in Did yall s... [t:80286791]...</cite> <quote>BlackScythe0 posted... </cite><quote>If he didn't read it, that is an issue on him and his staff. This idea that the federal budget just magically appeared with no one knowing what is in it is absolutely insane. </quote>When was it released? When were they expected to vote on it? When was it supposed to be released? How long would it take to read?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackScythe0 12/24/22 6:13:50 PM #19:	hungrymike posted... When was it released? When were they expected to vote on it? When was it supposed to be released? How long would it take to read? Why are you ok with politicians you like doing a shit job? <cite>BlackScythe0 posted [p:970386251] in Did yall s... [t:80286791]...</cite> <quote>hungrymike posted... </cite><quote>When was it released? When were they expected to vote on it? When was it supposed to be released? How long would it take to read?</quote>Why are you ok with politicians you like doing a shit job?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hard_Light 12/24/22 6:45:22 PM #20:	right? the issue isn't that it's too big, it's that an elected official is complaining that their job requires them to actually do their job and then he will immediately turn around and talk mad shit about the new mom working 3 jobs complaining that she has to work 3 jobs, she is lazy despite the fact that homie literally refuses to even just do his job --- feed the children to the beast just to keep their numbers green <cite>Hard_Light posted [p:970386826] in Did yall s... [t:80286791]...</cite> <quote>right?the issue isn't that it's too big, it's that an elected official is complaining that their job requires them to actually do their joband then he will immediately turn around and talk mad shit about the new mom working 3 jobs complaining that she has to work 3 jobs, she is lazy despite the fact that homie literally refuses to even just do his job</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
papercup 12/24/22 6:56:45 PM #21:	hungrymike posted... When was it released? When were they expected to vote on it? When was it supposed to be released? How long would it take to read? Why didn't he just man up and read it? Is reading that difficult for him? Should a person that can't read be in our government? --- Nintendo Network ID: papercups 3DS FC: 4124 5916 9925 <cite>papercup posted [p:970387051] in Did yall s... [t:80286791]...</cite> <quote>hungrymike posted... </cite><quote>When was it released? When were they expected to vote on it? When was it supposed to be released? How long would it take to read?</quote>Why didn't he just man up and read it? Is reading that difficult for him? Should a person that can't read be in our government?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Far-Queue 12/24/22 6:58:12 PM #22:	Rand Paul is a giant moron. --- What's better than roses on your piano? Tulips on your organ. <cite>Far-Queue posted [p:970387088] in Did yall s... [t:80286791]...</cite> <quote>Rand Paul is a giant moron.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hungrymike 12/25/22 12:19:41 AM #23:	Either y'all are trolls or u missed the point. Yes, they released it months late in the middle of the night with 1 day to review before voting, but the bigger issue is what's in it. I don't know if y'all know this, but our national debt is f**d. Spending money we don't have and printing it out of thin air causes inflation. I can't fathom that our politicians Reckless spending doesn't bother you, and that they don't even read the bills to boot. <cite>hungrymike posted [p:970391965] in Did yall s... [t:80286791]...</cite> <quote>Either y'all are trolls or u missed the point. Yes, they released it months late in the middle of the night with 1 day to review before voting, but the bigger issue is what's in it. I don't know if y'all know this, but our national debt is f**d. Spending money we don't have and printing it out of thin air causes inflation. I can't fathom that our politicians Reckless spending doesn't bother you, and that they don't even read the bills to boot. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hard_Light 12/25/22 12:25:04 AM #24:	BlackScythe0 posted... I'm asking a question and people are avoiding it. How long should the bill be? --- feed the children to the beast just to keep their numbers green <cite>Hard_Light posted [p:970392013] in Did yall s... [t:80286791]...</cite> <quote>BlackScythe0 posted... </cite><quote>I'm asking a question and people are avoiding it. How long should the bill be?</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackScythe0 12/25/22 8:34:27 AM #25:	hungrymike posted... Either y'all are trolls or u missed the point. Yes, they released it months late in the middle of the night with 1 day to review before voting, but the bigger issue is what's in it. I don't know if y'all know this, but our national debt is f**d. Spending money we don't have and printing it out of thin air causes inflation. I can't fathom that our politicians Reckless spending doesn't bother you, and that they don't even read the bills to boot. Traitors only care about the national debt when democrats are in office. It's nothing but war and slashing taxes when they are in control and then they suddenly care about the debt they rack up when a democrat is in control. Any politician claiming they have no clue what is in the bill is lying to you or refusing to do their job. You're the troll here citing one of the dumbest fuckers in the senate like he is doing his job. <cite>BlackScythe0 posted [p:970395672] in Did yall s... [t:80286791]...</cite> <quote>hungrymike posted... </cite><quote>Either y'all are trolls or u missed the point. Yes, they released it months late in the middle of the night with 1 day to review before voting, but the bigger issue is what's in it. I don't know if y'all know this, but our national debt is f**d. Spending money we don't have and printing it out of thin air causes inflation. I can't fathom that our politicians Reckless spending doesn't bother you, and that they don't even read the bills to boot.</quote>Traitors only care about the national debt when democrats are in office. It's nothing but war and slashing taxes when they are in control and then they suddenly care about the debt they rack up when a democrat is in control. Any politician claiming they have no clue what is in the bill is lying to you or refusing to do their job. You're the troll here citing one of the dumbest fuckers in the senate like he is doing his job. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
captpackrat 12/25/22 9:01:46 AM #26:	I love how the Republicans are all "Look at the size of this spending bill" like it's not just as large when they are in charge. --- Minutus cantorum, minutus balorum, Minutus carborata descendum pantorum. <cite>captpackrat posted [p:970395932] in Did yall s... [t:80286791]...</cite> <quote>I love how the Republicans are all "Look at the size of this spending bill" like it's not just as large when they are in charge.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Far-Queue 12/25/22 9:46:14 AM #27:	captpackrat posted... I love how the Republicans are all "Look at the size of this spending bill" like it's not just as large when they are in charge. It would be hilarious if not for the legion of unamerican morons who keep voting them into office --- What's better than roses on your piano? Tulips on your organ. <cite>Far-Queue posted [p:970396422] in Did yall s... [t:80286791]...</cite> <quote>captpackrat posted... </cite><quote>I love how the Republicans are all "Look at the size of this spending bill" like it's not just as large when they are in charge.</quote>It would be hilarious if not for the legion of unamerican morons who keep voting them into office </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hungrymike 12/25/22 12:25:11 PM #28:	Are you guys seriously so partisan that you can't understand it's both Republicans and Democrats and that the national debt is a problem? <cite>hungrymike posted [p:970398606] in Did yall s... [t:80286791]...</cite> <quote>Are you guys seriously so partisan that you can't understand it's both Republicans and Democrats and that the national debt is a problem? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReturnOfFa 12/25/22 12:31:23 PM #29:	hungrymike posted... Are you guys seriously so partisan that you can't understand it's both Republicans and Democrats and that the national debt is a problem? Yeah, sorry, but I lived with a 'both sides are the problem' guy for two years, and he didn't have shit to suggest for solutions. Unless you count the fact that he said he'd vote for Russel Brand (not a US citizen, and a complete dolt at that) for president. Democrats are demonstrably far better than Republicans. If over 60 Democrats actually held the House and Senate, nobody would have to deal with bills threatening the lives of women (abortion, hello), gay people (we're allowed to not serve you!) and there'd be far better, if nowhere near ideal taxation of the rich. I'd prefer to see far more principled Leftists in the House and Congress, but at present, around a third of the US population believes in an openly Fascist party. Call Democrats Fascist all you want, they don't hold a fucking candle to the Republicans, and equating them is laughable. Mock Hillary Clinton all you want, but her election would've prevented a Conservative controlled Supreme Court, and millions of women wouldn't be screwed. Sure, Clinton is a neolib goon. Would've beat the alternative. Never would've gotten Jill Stein or Bernie in anyhow. I would prefer Bernie obviously - not Stein who can't even articulate a cogent defense of sitting down for a meal with Mike Flynn and some Putin goons. It isn't 'partisan' to observe that the outcome under Democrats is far preferable to the outcome under Republicans. If it is actually partisan from your perspective to despise the people that will take away far more rights, then boo-hoo, people are partisan for literally not wanting to be screwed over more. Also, everyone likes to claim that Democrats had the ability to 'do anything' during Obama's first term. Ah yes, the supermajority that lasted for 72 days. --- girls like my fa <cite>ReturnOfFa posted [p:970398697] in Did yall s... [t:80286791]...</cite> <quote>hungrymike posted... </cite><quote>Are you guys seriously so partisan that you can't understand it's both Republicans and Democrats and that the national debt is a problem?</quote>Yeah, sorry, but I lived with a 'both sides are the problem' guy for two years, and he didn't have shit to suggest for solutions. Unless you count the fact that he said he'd vote for Russel Brand (not a US citizen, and a complete dolt at that) for president.Democrats are demonstrably far better than Republicans. If over 60 Democrats actually held the House and Senate, nobody would have to deal with bills threatening the lives of women (abortion, hello), gay people (we're allowed to not serve you!) and there'd be far better, if nowhere near ideal taxation of the rich. I'd prefer to see far more principled Leftists in the House and Congress, but at present, around a third of the US population believes in an openly Fascist party. Call Democrats Fascist all you want, they don't hold a fucking candle to the Republicans, and equating them is laughable. Mock Hillary Clinton all you want, but her election would've prevented a Conservative controlled Supreme Court, and millions of women wouldn't be screwed. Sure, Clinton is a neolib goon. Would've beat the alternative. Never would've gotten Jill Stein or Bernie in anyhow. I would prefer Bernie obviously - not Stein who can't even articulate a cogent defense of sitting down for a meal with Mike Flynn and some Putin goons.It isn't 'partisan' to observe that the outcome under Democrats is far preferable to the outcome under Republicans. If it is actually partisan from your perspective to despise the people that will take away far more rights, then boo-hoo, people are partisan for literally not wanting to be screwed over more.Also, everyone likes to claim that Democrats had the ability to 'do anything' during Obama's first term. Ah yes, the supermajority that lasted for 72 days.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackScythe0 12/25/22 2:04:51 PM #30:	hungrymike posted... Are you guys seriously so partisan that you can't understand it's both Republicans and Democrats and that the national debt is a problem? The only partisan here is you. Both sides is a lie and you know it. The only people who attempt the both sides argument are righties who try to act independent but in reality all they are attempting to do is argue the other side is as bad as they are but they're not as bad as your side. Your side is wrong. Democrats actually govern, they put forth responsible bills and attempt to fix the problems you're complaining about. People who are most definitely not deserving of the title the party of Lincoln do not attempt to govern they focus on nonsense, and stripping our rights, and starting wars, and slashing taxes. All they do is increase spending while cutting taxes, intentionally making the problem worse so that they can put themselves into a near perpetual state of running against democrats who have to fix the problems they created. <cite>BlackScythe0 posted [p:970400249] in Did yall s... [t:80286791]...</cite> <quote>hungrymike posted... </cite><quote>Are you guys seriously so partisan that you can't understand it's both Republicans and Democrats and that the national debt is a problem?</quote>The only partisan here is you. Both sides is a lie and you know it. The only people who attempt the both sides argument are righties who try to act independent but in reality all they are attempting to do is argue the other side is as bad as they are but they're not as bad as your side. Your side is wrong.Democrats actually govern, they put forth responsible bills and attempt to fix the problems you're complaining about. People who are most definitely not deserving of the title the party of Lincoln do not attempt to govern they focus on nonsense, and stripping our rights, and starting wars, and slashing taxes. All they do is increase spending while cutting taxes, intentionally making the problem worse so that they can put themselves into a near perpetual state of running against democrats who have to fix the problems they created. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HornedLion 12/25/22 3:56:20 PM #31:	Far-Queue posted... Conservatives require short, easy-to-read documents because they're not smart enough to handle the job they've been elected for. Pity Rand Paul, really. He's doing the absolute best a moron can do. I actually have to agree with them that its kinda shady but what blows my fucking mind is how they completely forget that the GOP does this EACH. AND. EVERY. TIME. And yet NOW its a problem for them. --- I'll destroy you in Street Fighter, For Honor, COD, and hungry hungry hippos. <cite>HornedLion posted [p:970402221] in Did yall s... [t:80286791]...</cite> <quote>Far-Queue posted... </cite><quote>Conservatives require short, easy-to-read documents because they're not smart enough to handle the job they've been elected for. Pity Rand Paul, really. He's doing the absolute best a moron can do.</quote>I actually have to agree with them that its kinda shady but what blows my fucking mind is how they completely forget that the GOP does this EACH. AND. EVERY. TIME. And yet NOW its a problem for them. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ozmose 12/25/22 5:06:05 PM #32:	hungrymike posted... Are you guys seriously so partisan that you can't understand it's both Republicans and Democrats and that the national debt is a problem? You're arguing this to the wrong crowd buddy. The folks around here are so far left they've fallen off the edge. I blocked half of them a while back specifically because they're a bunch of hyper-partisan psychos. The fact that I can't see 3/4 of the posts in this topic tells me those are exactly the people you're dealing with. If you present even a slightly bipartisan view, they're going to consider you far right. There's no fixing them. They've been brainwashed far beyond the capability to maintain independent thought. --- Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone else's opinions, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation. - Oscar Wilde <cite>Ozmose posted [p:970403426] in Did yall s... [t:80286791]...</cite> <quote>hungrymike posted... </cite><quote>Are you guys seriously so partisan that you can't understand it's both Republicans and Democrats and that the national debt is a problem?</quote>You're arguing this to the wrong crowd buddy. The folks around here are so far left they've fallen off the edge. I blocked half of them a while back specifically because they're a bunch of hyper-partisan psychos. The fact that I can't see 3/4 of the posts in this topic tells me those are exactly the people you're dealing with. If you present even a slightly bipartisan view, they're going to consider you far right. There's no fixing them. They've been brainwashed far beyond the capability to maintain independent thought.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hard_Light 12/25/22 5:08:55 PM #33:	hungrymike posted... Are you guys seriously so partisan that you can't understand it's both Republicans and Democrats and that the national debt is a problem? why can't you answer the question --- feed the children to the beast just to keep their numbers green <cite>Hard_Light posted [p:970403469] in Did yall s... [t:80286791]...</cite> <quote>hungrymike posted... </cite><quote>Are you guys seriously so partisan that you can't understand it's both Republicans and Democrats and that the national debt is a problem?</quote>why can't you answer the question</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Grendel_Prime 12/25/22 5:50:52 PM #34:	Ozmose posted... I blocked half of them a while back specifically because they're a bunch of hyper-partisan psychos. Read: Others refuse to agree with my particular brand of bias and I can't stomach being out-matched and outwitted in an argument so I use the block function to create a safe space for myself. --- http://i.imgur.com/ocx9d7F.gifv https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/hoki/hoki-fortune-telling-solitaire <cite>Grendel_Prime posted [p:970404248] in Did yall s... [t:80286791]...</cite> <quote>Ozmose posted... </cite><quote>I blocked half of them a while back specifically because they're a bunch of hyper-partisan psychos.</quote>Read: Others refuse to agree with my particular brand of bias and I can't stomach being out-matched and outwitted in an argument so I use the block function to create a safe space for myself.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ozmose 12/25/22 6:11:23 PM #35:	Grendel_Prime posted... Read: Others refuse to agree with my particular brand of bias and I can't stomach being out-matched and outwitted in an argument so I use the block function to create a safe space for myself. I told them they shouldn't call people Nazis unless the people are actually Nazis, and they absolutely lost their shit. How very biased of me. --- Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone else's opinions, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation. - Oscar Wilde <cite>Ozmose posted [p:970404630] in Did yall s... [t:80286791]...</cite> <quote>Grendel_Prime posted... </cite><quote>Read: Others refuse to agree with my particular brand of bias and I can't stomach being out-matched and outwitted in an argument so I use the block function to create a safe space for myself.</quote>I told them they shouldn't call people Nazis unless the people are actually Nazis, and they absolutely lost their shit. How very biased of me.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zareth 12/25/22 6:17:32 PM #36:	No bill should be more than a hundred pages. If it is, split it up. --- What would Bligh do? <cite>Zareth posted [p:970404768] in Did yall s... [t:80286791]...</cite> <quote>No bill should be more than a hundred pages. If it is, split it up.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hungrymike 12/25/22 6:44:11 PM #37:	Ozmose posted... You're arguing this to the wrong crowd buddy. The folks around here are so far left they've fallen off the edge. I blocked half of them a while back specifically because they're a bunch of hyper-partisan psychos. The fact that I can't see 3/4 of the posts in this topic tells me those are exactly the people you're dealing with. If you present even a slightly bipartisan view, they're going to consider you far right. There's no fixing them. They've been brainwashed far beyond the capability to maintain independent thought. I hear ya. With few exceptions, most responders miss the point and harp on secondary issues, and don't really seem to know what they are talking about. Hard_Light posted... why can't you answer the question I suppose I can answer the question now: Yes, they are so partisan they can't admit the national debt is a problem. <cite>hungrymike posted [p:970405222] in Did yall s... [t:80286791]...</cite> <quote>Ozmose posted... </cite><quote>You're arguing this to the wrong crowd buddy. The folks around here are so far left they've fallen off the edge. I blocked half of them a while back specifically because they're a bunch of hyper-partisan psychos. The fact that I can't see 3/4 of the posts in this topic tells me those are exactly the people you're dealing with. If you present even a slightly bipartisan view, they're going to consider you far right. There's no fixing them. They've been brainwashed far beyond the capability to maintain independent thought.</quote>I hear ya. With few exceptions, most responders miss the point and harp on secondary issues, and don't really seem to know what they are talking about. Hard_Light posted... </cite><quote>why can't you answer the question</quote>I suppose I can answer the question now: Yes, they are so partisan they can't admit the national debt is a problem. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ozmose 12/25/22 7:38:50 PM #38:	hungrymike posted... I hear ya. With few exceptions, most responders miss the point and harp on secondary issues, and don't really seem to know what they are talking about. Trust me they're not missing the point, they're changing the subject. They know they can't argue the original topic so they steer it off on a tangent. The fact that they pile on like an angry mob around here only makes it worse. They help each other dodge questions by ignoring them and instead demanding that you answer theirs to the point of straight up harassment. It doesn't help that most of the mods drink the same Kool-Aid. They'll let them spew some of the most vile insults known to man, but god forbid you dish any back to them. They're like school playground attendants. They'll let you get bullied all day, but the second you swing back, it's off to the principal's office. --- Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone else's opinions, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation. - Oscar Wilde <cite>Ozmose posted [p:970406083] in Did yall s... [t:80286791]...</cite> <quote>hungrymike posted... </cite><quote>I hear ya. With few exceptions, most responders miss the point and harp on secondary issues, and don't really seem to know what they are talking about. </quote> Trust me they're not missing the point, they're changing the subject. They know they can't argue the original topic so they steer it off on a tangent. The fact that they pile on like an angry mob around here only makes it worse. They help each other dodge questions by ignoring them and instead demanding that you answer theirs to the point of straight up harassment. It doesn't help that most of the mods drink the same Kool-Aid. They'll let them spew some of the most vile insults known to man, but god forbid you dish any back to them. They're like school playground attendants. They'll let you get bullied all day, but the second you swing back, it's off to the principal's office.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hard_Light 12/25/22 7:45:00 PM #39:	hungrymike posted... I suppose I can answer the question now: Yes, they are so partisan they can't admit the national debt is a problem. uh BlackScythe0 posted... I'm asking a question and people are avoiding it. How long should the bill be? no no i don't think that answer has anything to do with the question you were asked --- feed the children to the beast just to keep their numbers green <cite>Hard_Light posted [p:970406184] in Did yall s... [t:80286791]...</cite> <quote>hungrymike posted... </cite><quote>I suppose I can answer the question now: Yes, they are so partisan they can't admit the national debt is a problem.</quote>uhBlackScythe0 posted... </cite><quote>I'm asking a question and people are avoiding it. How long should the bill be?</quote>nono i don't think that answer has anything to do with the question you were asked</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hard_Light 12/25/22 7:54:37 PM #40:	moreover, have you ever acted this way towards the other several thousand page, 1+trillion omnibus spending bills? hint: there's one every year. they're all several thousand pages long, they're all more than a trillion. this is not unusual, which is why no one actually cares, which is why rand paul is being ridiculed over it because all he achieved was proving he doesn't do his job. you took their false soapbox outrage bait, hook line and sinker. they only wanted to make you mad for no other reason than that's what their party lives off of. --- feed the children to the beast just to keep their numbers green <cite>Hard_Light posted [p:970406349] in Did yall s... [t:80286791]...</cite> <quote>moreover, have you ever acted this way towards the other several thousand page, 1+trillion omnibus spending bills?hint: there's one every year. they're all several thousand pages long, they're all more than a trillion. this is not unusual, which is why no one actually cares, which is why rand paul is being ridiculed over it because all he achieved was proving he doesn't do his job. you took their false soapbox outrage bait, hook line and sinker. they only wanted to make you mad for no other reason than that's what their party lives off of.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Grendel_Prime 12/25/22 8:19:43 PM #41:	Ozmose posted... I told them they shouldn't call people Nazis unless the people are actually Nazis, and they absolutely lost their shit. How very biased of me. Hard to determine with what little context you've provided. Who were they incorrectly referring to as Nazis? Not to put the cart before the horse, but I have seen on this board from a handful of posters the incorrect assertion that Nazis are solely defined by their participation in and around the events of WWII. It is wrong to think that we cannot apply the Nazi label to those who carry on today espousing the same ideologies, employing the same symbols, regalia, and mannerisms of Nazis from decades ago. Call a spade a spade. They may be "Neo-Nazis", "white nationalists" etc, but if they're acting the part, then arguing that they aren't "text book Nazis" is an impotent position to take founded on shaky semantics. --- http://i.imgur.com/ocx9d7F.gifv https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/hoki/hoki-fortune-telling-solitaire <cite>Grendel_Prime posted [p:970406739] in Did yall s... [t:80286791]...</cite> <quote>Ozmose posted... </cite><quote>I told them they shouldn't call people Nazis unless the people are actually Nazis, and they absolutely lost their shit. How very biased of me.</quote>Hard to determine with what little context you've provided. Who were they incorrectly referring to as Nazis?Not to put the cart before the horse, but I have seen on this board from a handful of posters the incorrect assertion that Nazis are solely defined by their participation in and around the events of WWII. It is wrong to think that we cannot apply the Nazi label to those who carry on today espousing the same ideologies, employing the same symbols, regalia, and mannerisms of Nazis from decades ago. Call a spade a spade.They may be "Neo-Nazis", "white nationalists" etc, but if they're acting the part, then arguing that they aren't "text book Nazis" is an impotent position to take founded on shaky semantics. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
captpackrat 12/25/22 8:23:20 PM #42:	And half the earmarks in every bill end up going to Republican-backed stuff. Remember the Bridge to Nowhere in Alaska? $398 million of your federal tax dollars for a bridge connecting a town of 8,000 people to an island where the airport is located. They all have to stick their fingers in the pie. --- Minutus cantorum, minutus balorum, Minutus carborata descendum pantorum. <cite>captpackrat posted [p:970406798] in Did yall s... [t:80286791]...</cite> <quote>And half the earmarks in every bill end up going to Republican-backed stuff. Remember the Bridge to Nowhere in Alaska? $398 million of your federal tax dollars for a bridge connecting a town of 8,000 people to an island where the airport is located.They all have to stick their fingers in the pie.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hungrymike 12/25/22 9:00:16 PM #43:	Hard_Light posted... uh no no i don't think that answer has anything to do with the question you were asked That is not the question u quoted in post 33 and thus not the question i was responding to. Hard_Light posted... this is not unusual, which is why no one actually cares, Which is why spending is out of control and inflation is exploding. <cite>hungrymike posted [p:970407425] in Did yall s... [t:80286791]...</cite> <quote>Hard_Light posted... </cite><quote>uhnono i don't think that answer has anything to do with the question you were asked</quote>That is not the question u quoted in post 33 and thus not the question i was responding to. Hard_Light posted... </cite><quote>this is not unusual, which is why no one actually cares, </quote> Which is why spending is out of control and inflation is exploding. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ozmose 12/25/22 9:28:25 PM #44:	Grendel_Prime posted... Hard to determine with what little context you've provided. Who were they incorrectly referring to as Nazis? Not to put the cart before the horse, but I have seen on this board from a handful of posters the incorrect assertion that Nazis are solely defined by their participation in and around the events of WWII. It is wrong to think that we cannot apply the Nazi label to those who carry on today espousing the same ideologies, employing the same symbols, regalia, and mannerisms of Nazis from decades ago. Call a spade a spade. They may be "Neo-Nazis", "white nationalists" etc, but if they're acting the part, then arguing that they aren't "text book Nazis" is an impotent position to take founded on shaky semantics. That particular occasion was referring to an event where a bunch of Nazis held a rally outside a Turning Point USA convention. That convention was a young americans meeting. Primarily grade school and junior high age kids. There was absolutely no connection between the two events, but some people here wanted to play it off like there was. That was my argument. Don't call a bunch of children Nazis because some assholes decided to show up outside and refused to leave when they were confronted. Because I didn't like them picking on children, the nutjobs here somehow equated that to me defending Nazis. --- Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone else's opinions, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation. - Oscar Wilde <cite>Ozmose posted [p:970407949] in Did yall s... [t:80286791]...</cite> <quote>Grendel_Prime posted... </cite><quote>Hard to determine with what little context you've provided. Who were they incorrectly referring to as Nazis?Not to put the cart before the horse, but I have seen on this board from a handful of posters the incorrect assertion that Nazis are solely defined by their participation in and around the events of WWII. It is wrong to think that we cannot apply the Nazi label to those who carry on today espousing the same ideologies, employing the same symbols, regalia, and mannerisms of Nazis from decades ago. Call a spade a spade.They may be "Neo-Nazis", "white nationalists" etc, but if they're acting the part, then arguing that they aren't "text book Nazis" is an impotent position to take founded on shaky semantics.</quote>That particular occasion was referring to an event where a bunch of Nazis held a rally outside a Turning Point USA convention. That convention was a young americans meeting. Primarily grade school and junior high age kids. There was absolutely no connection between the two events, but some people here wanted to play it off like there was. That was my argument. Don't call a bunch of children Nazis because some assholes decided to show up outside and refused to leave when they were confronted. Because I didn't like them picking on children, the nutjobs here somehow equated that to me defending Nazis.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lokarin 12/25/22 10:23:58 PM #45:	did that goober actually make hazard signs for the omnibus table? --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:970408880] in Did yall s... [t:80286791]...</cite> <quote>did that goober actually make hazard signs for the omnibus table?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackScythe0 12/25/22 11:11:17 PM #46:	Lokarin posted... did that goober actually make hazard signs for the omnibus table? What do you think he spent his time doing? He wasn't going to read the bill, so he spent his time in ms paint. <cite>BlackScythe0 posted [p:970409658] in Did yall s... [t:80286791]...</cite> <quote>Lokarin posted... </cite><quote>did that goober actually make hazard signs for the omnibus table?</quote>What do you think he spent his time doing? He wasn't going to read the bill, so he spent his time in ms paint. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hard_Light 12/25/22 11:14:12 PM #47:	hungrymike posted... That is not the question u quoted in post 33 and thus not the question i was responding to. whatever i quoted is irrelevant since it was not the question you keep not answering --- feed the children to the beast just to keep their numbers green <cite>Hard_Light posted [p:970409699] in Did yall s... [t:80286791]...</cite> <quote>hungrymike posted... </cite><quote>That is not the question u quoted in post 33 and thus not the question i was responding to.</quote>whatever i quoted is irrelevant since it was not the question you keep not answering</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hard_Light 12/25/22 11:15:45 PM #48:	Ozmose posted... That particular occasion was referring to an event where a bunch of Nazis held a rally outside a Turning Point USA convention. That convention was a young americans meeting. Primarily grade school and junior high age kids. There was absolutely no connection between the two events, but some people here wanted to play it off like there was. That was my argument. Don't call a bunch of children Nazis because some assholes decided to show up outside and refused to leave when they were confronted. Because I didn't like them picking on children, the nutjobs here somehow equated that to me defending Nazis. there was, in fact, a connection between the two, however a very large one a very orange one --- feed the children to the beast just to keep their numbers green <cite>Hard_Light posted [p:970409727] in Did yall s... [t:80286791]...</cite> <quote>Ozmose posted... </cite><quote>That particular occasion was referring to an event where a bunch of Nazis held a rally outside a Turning Point USA convention. That convention was a young americans meeting. Primarily grade school and junior high age kids. There was absolutely no connection between the two events, but some people here wanted to play it off like there was. That was my argument. Don't call a bunch of children Nazis because some assholes decided to show up outside and refused to leave when they were confronted. Because I didn't like them picking on children, the nutjobs here somehow equated that to me defending Nazis.</quote>there was, in fact, a connection between the two, howevera very large one a very orange one</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zareth 12/25/22 11:16:17 PM #49:	I guess you could say that Rand couldn't stand it --- What would Bligh do? <cite>Zareth posted [p:970409737] in Did yall s... [t:80286791]...</cite> <quote>I guess you could say that Rand couldn't stand it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ozmose 12/26/22 5:31:29 AM #50:	Hard_Light posted... there was, in fact, a connection between the two, however a very large one a very orange one Would you mind showing a source for this connection? Trump was already out of office and blacklisted from social media, so if he's tying the two events together in some way, I'd genuinely like to know how. --- Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone else's opinions, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation. - Oscar Wilde <cite>Ozmose posted [p:970413222] in Did yall s... [t:80286791]...</cite> <quote>Hard_Light posted... </cite><quote>there was, in fact, a connection between the two, howevera very large one a very orange one</quote>Would you mind showing a source for this connection? Trump was already out of office and blacklisted from social media, so if he's tying the two events together in some way, I'd genuinely like to know how.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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