Board 8 > Eff 2021 Mafia - Topic 6: Officially Banned From Twitter

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Posting On Truth Social (THE LIVING):
1) Ben
2) BlueCrystalTear
3) Chaeix
4) changmas
5) Corrik
6) ctesjbuvf
7) Death
8) HanOfTheNekos
9) Lea
10) masterplum (replaced MysteriousStan)
11) MZero
12) SBell
13) ScareChan
14) Suprak_the_Stud
15) TheSultanOfSlam
16) TotallyNotMI

Permanently Suspended Due To A Risk Of Further Incitement Of Violence (DEAD):
KD1 - Lopen: DMX, TOWN Vanilla
LD1 - Isquen: Alec Baldwin, TOWN Negligent Day Vigilante
KN1 - red: Donald Trump, INDEPENDENT Evolving Arsonist

WITH 16 ALIVE IT TAKES 9 TO LYNCH. DAY ENDS IN ROUGHLY 31.5 HOURS (THURSDAY 9PM CST).

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Quick question btw
Ben sipping his tea was a common gag for him right?
Not something that could be him trying to set up a flavor for later.

htaeD posted...

Quick question btw
Ben sipping his tea was a common gag for him right?
Not something that could be him trying to set up a flavor for later.

What is your purpose asking this question

htaeD posted...

Quick question btw
Ben sipping his tea was a common gag for him right?
Not something that could be him trying to set up a flavor for later.

I've never seen the tea before.

Streamlining my Ben inspection
Benspection

Okay we are to the shot. Sidenote: Death has given minimal here. He keeps reverting back and forth from the joke phase to very limited comments on the game.

Scare does 2 or 3 times say Lopen is scum. He questions someone saying Lopen is town also.

Right before the stop. Scare votes Han with MI.

Lea at 5:01:54 states something about her pm coming out.

5:05:33 BCT says the time he got his.

5:05:49 Suprak posts the stop

The fastest I could type this and also get the bold right was 7 seconds. This is with me knowing what I was going to write and without mistakes to be made.

NOw Suprak was here most likely because at 5:00:59 he did post about a new topic.

The question is... did this stop actually occur due to BCT. That's a very very very short window here.

heres my somewhat off the wall theory on why red was the n1 kill because i havent been able to make heads or tails of a scum team who blindly kills red night 1. Apologies if Im going too far into Lopen Land.

it wasnt a blind kill. Scum had a day role scan and they used it on red day 1 to find out hes an arsonist. Ben can use this information to claim fireproof (if he isnt actually fireproof) and frame isquen as the arsonist instead to secure a kill on a useful town role too. This also answers why they wanted to lynch isquen - they already had a higher priority nightkill.

i could just be talking out my ass here but it feels like it works

Corrik7 posted...

The question is... did this stop actually occur due to BCT. That's a very very very short window here.

didn't the followup post reference a bct warning though?

So Sbell apparently went back to the beginning of the game and foudn the pm part and quoted it a full minute after the stop. So this means a couple of things.

1. Whoever Sbell posted this about (BCT or LEA) cannot be scum with Sbell.
2. It also means Sbell is a lame-o for trying to get someone mked.
3. It also means that if Scare is scum and this stop came because of Scare, Sbell cannot be scum. He would have known this shot was coming and this stop and not been posting during this.

changmas posted...

it wasnt a blind kill. Scum had a day role scan and they used it on red day 1 to find out hes an arsonist. Ben can use this information to claim fireproof (if he isnt actually fireproof) and frame isquen as the arsonist instead to secure a kill on a useful town role too. This also answers why they wanted to lynch isquen - they already had a higher priority nightkill.

i could just be talking out my ass here but it feels like it works

I mean it hinges on a big assumption but at least it has some teeth.

I said it then and I will say it now.
I highly doubt that it happened because of BCT
It was either Scare or Suprak had to stop because he wasnt sure about what Lea said.

Corrik7 posted...

So Sbell apparently went back to the beginning of the game and foudn the pm part and quoted it a full minute after the stop. So this means a couple of things.

1. Whoever Sbell posted this about (BCT or LEA) cannot be scum with Sbell.
2. It also means Sbell is a lame-o for trying to get someone mked.
3. It also means that if Scare is scum and this stop came because of Scare, Sbell cannot be scum. He would have known this shot was coming and this stop and not been posting during this.

you're a lame-o

The STOP was 49 minutes long. So, I do believe that Suprak went back and read all the pms and made a ruling regarding it.

So here is what is in FAVOR of Scare telling the truth.

The shot wasn't posted first and then it was a continued stop.

Suprak_the_Stud posted... OH! And also..

Lopen has died! He was

The oh and also part does lead a little credence to Scare's story. The timing still seems almost impossible that Suprak could make this that fast... unless he was starting with Lea's post... but...he doesn't warn Lea here... only BCT. Now remember, I made this post in 7 seconds, but this means he also seen this post first and then scrolled down to the text box and typed this in also. I almost believe it's literally impossible this stop was in reference to BCT's post.

masterplum posted...

What is your purpose asking this question

ooofff this is a really scum plum post isn't it

i love how plum has taken my town clear and proceeded to make like 6 straight posts doing the exact opposite of what i was clearing him for.

brutal. Townclear rectracted for now

It is not

htaeD posted...

Quick question btw
Ben sipping his tea was a common gag for him right?
Not something that could be him trying to set up a flavor for later.

I got it he is bread crumbing the queen Elizabeth who lost her husband and was sick majority of 2021

Or Phillip Mountbatten (queen Elizabeth's husband) who died in 2021!

What you are probably seeing is a reflection of my increasing existential despair at work as a sudden quit has caused me to work 2 jobs at the same time.

So Ive just been kind of popping in and seeing if anything sticks out to me

Yes but he claimed something else as flavor (and I very much doubt the British royalty is fireproof, or trump proof)

i mean i agree that the "oh and also" wording lends credence to scare's account but i'm still puzzled by his logic for shooting during the stop. it just doesn't really track to me.

did he ever acknowledge that like, it was impossible for him to get the shot off if he was being killed in the stop? and that like, it was a momentary lapse of judgement / stupidity in a flash of panic? that i could maybe buy, but my recollection without rereading suggests he's kinda just been like "yeah i did that and i thought it seemed reasonable"

masterplum posted...

It is not

No, it is. Scumplum does the whole "interacts without saying things" often.

masterplum posted...

Though can people please stop feeding scum what you caught them with.

Stuff like this too.

But Death asking that question made me feel like fake content

So the reactions

Ben is the first and says its a plot twist.

Scare says "well fuck'

So another thing, if this shot happened first then the investigation... it's possible scum would have gotten told the result prior to the day going back up... so they could have plotted how to handle this and perhaps maybe whether to claim it or not. I am not sure if Suprak would make them wait for an investigation or not to give the result. Then again, Scare says he sent the kill during the stop.

Approximately what time would you say you sent in the shot? Have you ever explained this before? You just said during the stop.

htaeD posted...

Yes but he claimed something else as flavor (and I very much doubt the British royalty is fireproof, or trump proof)

Probably right? But if he is scum he wouldn't have known the flavor was Trump until the flip?

I thought you were getting at he was fake claiming his flavor too.

Actually death do you remember the flavor he claimed?

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/0/1/AAOJ0pAAD_WN.png

What is even happening here, Plum?

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Probably right? But if he is scum he wouldn't have known the flavor was Trump until the flip?

I thought you were getting at he was fake claiming his flavor too.

I was thinking that maybe he planned a different flavor (not as if he didnt already joke about being Dave Chapelle) but I wanted a few second opinions before I said that out loud.
Because I swear I recall Ben doing *slurps caffeine rigorously* or something like that in the past.

Now... Idk maybe i'm dumb but...

PunishedBen posted... Lol wtf what a twist. And RIP my main man

Fastbreak posted...

Well fuck

Fastbreak posted...

Ben why couldn't you tell me 1005%

PunishedBen posted...

SCARE WHY

PunishedBen posted...

Someone is claiming it right before your eyes. The cretin

Ben seems to know instantly Scare made this shot when Scare banters with him about 2 minutes after play resumes.

I couldn't even personally figure out what Lopen died from at this point, and they are already making jokes about this and Ben seems to know even before Scare admits it.

I don't know if they are on another wave length with one another or if this is staged but... can anyone else get this from their convo definitively above?

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Actually death do you remember the flavor he claimed?

Something about a factory that didn't burn up?
I dont remember the specifics, but it wasn't the queen of England.

I definitely thought Scare was goofing around along with Ben in that conversation.

I thought Scare looked like he was clearly claiming the shot but that's also because I don't think normal people respond with "Well fuck" when someone Town dies.

But also I knew Scare had dayvigged Lopen when I was reading so my opinion isn't worth much.

[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


Lea cheekily claiming her Scumteam shot the arsonist ;)

Here's the thing about Plum:

He doesn't seem like he's trying to solve the game.

I mean, in what world does somebody actively thinking about the game end up with:

Corrik
Lea
Ben
Scare

as their fourpack of Scum?

Plum isn't actively logic-ing out the game.

It's why he's responding to other posts with enhancers "Why are you doing this, people shouldn't do this, blah blah" and such. There's not an honest effort to unveil things from him. Is there?

As far as I can remember, his gunning for Corrik was the only particularly unique thing he's offered.

I am The Texas Electrical Power Grid, Town Fireproof. I'm frozen. Attempts to ignite me will fail.

Okay this is what Ben claimed.
Again I can totally see Ben just doing the tea bit as a gag for no reason, but I would like Ben to explain it if he can.

Btw while I was skipping ahead in time to see this claim I caught this bit of weird logic from JC

do you think that isquen is in fact a vig?

if he's a vig, then we would likely still have an arsonist somewhere by virtue of ben's role existing. so if you believe isquen is a vig and not an arsonist, you probably shouldn't believe the fireproof claim.

Because I dont see how he jumps from "If Isquen not arsonist" to "Ben cannot be fireproof."

htaeD posted...

Something about a factory that didn't burn up?
I dont remember the specifics, but it wasn't the queen of England.

the texas electrical grid.

i really wish you wouldn't waste posts on this useless drinking tea pursuit though

Ben claimed: I am The Texas Electrical Power Grid, Town Fireproof

changmas posted...

the texas electrical grid.

i really wish you wouldn't waste posts on this useless drinking tea pursuit though

Never wasted post my ninjaed friend

Oh its not a pursuit. Just a question that has been answered now. But if Ben has something to say about it as well, I would like to hear it.

Lea, agree with me here.

I agree with you.

Chang, MI, and Death vote or suspect Han has something to do with this shot of Lopen. Scare claims after Chang says for the vig to claim it. Probably a ninja post to the claim though.

Han then why aren't you voting Plum?

So... Scare says he decided during the stop to shoot. Death replies he "doesn't think scare makes this claim as scum or indy" while me and chang are like what and huh???

ScareChan posted... I didn't have to publically shoot, I just don't claim that as scum

Aka

"I'm scum"

Stan who barely plays all game is like... ALL SCARE TALKED ABOUT WAS LOPEN SO THAT CHECKS OUT...

MysteriousStan posted... All Scare really talked about earlier was Lopen so that checks out at least.

Scare was voting Han and only said 2 or 3 things about Lopen beforehand really.

MysteriousStan posted...

Maybe not logical but I can definitely see town power being emotional and fearing if they don't get their shot off now they may not be able to. So I'm buying Scare here.

Stan makes a couple statements about missing Lea but mostly he just comes in here to say Scare's reasoning checks out and he buys it from Town Power.

<.<

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Han then why aren't you voting Plum?

I was inviting conversation.

Why aren't YOU voting Plum, Sultan?

Corrik7 posted...

Chang, MI, and Death vote or suspect Han has something to do with this shot of Lopen. Scare claims after Chang says for the vig to claim it. Probably a ninja post to the claim though.

I specifically remember Isquen trying to paint me with it the most - what did those three say?

TotallyNotMI posted...

I agree with you.

mhmm mhmm

HanOfTheNekos posted...

I was inviting conversation.

Why aren't YOU voting Plum, Sultan?

Good question actually was waiting to see if plum had more to say about stuff